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Chemtrails Through The Eyes Of A Television Weatherman. INCREDIBLE!!

 
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
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How long have you posted or when did you first post on GLP???coffee4
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I've tried that. Chemtrail believers say that what I reference is invalid because I agree with the "official" explanation, and that I must be either A) Painfully ignorant, or B) In on it. The closest I've seen to actual numbers is analysis of material collected over several days in a HEPA filter (with no attempt to find the actual source of the windblown material), and soil samples (with no baseline control sample). You and others like you are the ones making the claim. If normal contrails can't form clouds, then how do you think natural clouds form?
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Hello Guy! you back in port . . .?? I haven't seen much of you lately . . . coffee4
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Yeah, just got back from deployment a few weeks ago. It's good to be home.
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Regarding "baseline" in soil samples, California farmers had that wsell documented. They do this so as to determine which soil amenities and supplements they need for whatever crops are planned. They had that and they later had the differences according to UC Davis which you cannot have bettered.
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Awesome! Do you have a link to that? I'm interested to see what the results have been.
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If normal contrails can't form clouds, then how do you think natural clouds form?

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This ^

None of you chemtrail believers will answer this simple question? Why?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Menow/Guy this question about normal contrails forming clouds, etc. was addressed in the video. As I have and many others here have mentioned before this is a discussion topic and we are not professing to be atmospheric scientist like some of you profess to be.

We're here to discuss what could be and at this point most likely is going on. The informational material listed here is very helpful as well as a lot of other useful resources we use.

We are not obligated to prove anything to any of you who wish to believe otherwise. So, you can bully all you want to no avail.

Watch the documentary! You might learn something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Can you tell me what part of the documentary? An hour and a half is too much when the first couple sentences make me want to grind my teeth.
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here is a vid on cloud formation that is probably on par with what you are looking for little fish;


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Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
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here is a vid on cloud formation that is probably on par with what you are looking for little fish;


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
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You have to remember...99% of these people don't understand that burning hydrocarbons results in water vapor...
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
 Quoting: Old Timer ... 22264984


I'm glad you live such a pathetic existence in this "matrix-hell world" just because you are paranoid and ignorant and are too lazy and afraid to do something about your mental illness. Life has owned you.
Please take the time to learn about aviation and atmospheric science from reputable sources...NOT other chemtards.

It's your lack of knowledge that keeps you in this "hell" you describe.

sad...
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
 Quoting: Old Timer ... 22264984


I'm glad you live such a pathetic existence in this "matrix-hell world" just because you are paranoid and ignorant and are too lazy and afraid to do something about your mental illness. Life has owned you.
Please take the time to learn about aviation and atmospheric science from reputable sources...NOT other chemtards.

It's your lack of knowledge that keeps you in this "hell" you describe.

sad...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465



I see they got you completely tethered here Noble since your most recent insidious post above.

I'm sure they give you plenty of paper airplanes to play with while you fullfil your fantasy of being a air-ro-not guru nut.


Noble......"The air-ro-nut case......SOOOOOOORY.
OFF HIS MEDS AGAIN. WHAT A PEST HE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

crazyjak
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
 Quoting: Old Timer ... 22264984


I'm glad you live such a pathetic existence in this "matrix-hell world" just because you are paranoid and ignorant and are too lazy and afraid to do something about your mental illness. Life has owned you.
Please take the time to learn about aviation and atmospheric science from reputable sources...NOT other chemtards.

It's your lack of knowledge that keeps you in this "hell" you describe.

sad...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465



I see they got you completely tethered here Noble since your most recent insidious post above.

I'm sure they give you plenty of paper airplanes to play with while you fullfil your fantasy of being a air-ro-not guru nut.


Noble......"The air-ro-nut case......SOOOOOOORY.
OFF HIS MEDS AGAIN. WHAT A PEST HE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

crazyjak
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I see you've fallen for the ignorant chemtard nonsense...because you are prone to accepting bullshit as fact based on your pathetic world view.

Yeah..."air-ro-not casze.." That's still better than being a chemtard loser...which is all you will ever be...enjoy that!

What meds? It's you that's mentally ill..you pretend to have knowledge about a subject you have OBVIOUSLY never studied.

Go ahead,. ask ANYONE who has actually studied these subjects who is right...you or I. Prepare to apologize for your ignorance. Of course, you won't take me up on my challenge...because you are nothing but a scared pussy...and you avoid the truth/facts at all cost so you can live in your pathetic paranoid fantasy world.


Enjoy your ridiculous existence. I'll enjoy laughing at you.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
 Quoting: Old Timer ... 22264984


I'm glad you live such a pathetic existence in this "matrix-hell world" just because you are paranoid and ignorant and are too lazy and afraid to do something about your mental illness. Life has owned you.
Please take the time to learn about aviation and atmospheric science from reputable sources...NOT other chemtards.

It's your lack of knowledge that keeps you in this "hell" you describe.

sad...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465



I see they got you completely tethered here Noble since your most recent insidious post above.

I'm sure they give you plenty of paper airplanes to play with while you fullfil your fantasy of being a air-ro-not guru nut.


Noble......"The air-ro-nut case......SOOOOOOORY.
OFF HIS MEDS AGAIN. WHAT A PEST HE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

crazyjak
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I see you've fallen for the ignorant chemtard nonsense...because you are prone to accepting bullshit as fact based on your pathetic world view.

Yeah..."air-ro-not casze.." That's still better than being a chemtard loser...which is all you will ever be...enjoy that!

What meds? It's you that's mentally ill..you pretend to have knowledge about a subject you have OBVIOUSLY never studied.

Go ahead,. ask ANYONE who has actually studied these subjects who is right...you or I. Prepare to apologize for your ignorance. Of course, you won't take me up on my challenge...because you are nothing but a scared pussy...and you avoid the truth/facts at all cost so you can live in your pathetic paranoid fantasy world.


Enjoy your ridiculous existence. I'll enjoy laughing at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Noble, it is "so precious" how you keep responding to my posts.

You're keeping this thread alive, cudos to you, little man.

I always enjoy my ridiculous existence. Mine is real. If you only knew.......oh well.

I wish you many more paper airplanes.

SmileyWink
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I'm glad you live such a pathetic existence in this "matrix-hell world" just because you are paranoid and ignorant and are too lazy and afraid to do something about your mental illness. Life has owned you.
Please take the time to learn about aviation and atmospheric science from reputable sources...NOT other chemtards.

It's your lack of knowledge that keeps you in this "hell" you describe.

sad...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465



I see they got you completely tethered here Noble since your most recent insidious post above.

I'm sure they give you plenty of paper airplanes to play with while you fullfil your fantasy of being a air-ro-not guru nut.


Noble......"The air-ro-nut case......SOOOOOOORY.
OFF HIS MEDS AGAIN. WHAT A PEST HE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

crazyjak
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I see you've fallen for the ignorant chemtard nonsense...because you are prone to accepting bullshit as fact based on your pathetic world view.

Yeah..."air-ro-not casze.." That's still better than being a chemtard loser...which is all you will ever be...enjoy that!

What meds? It's you that's mentally ill..you pretend to have knowledge about a subject you have OBVIOUSLY never studied.

Go ahead,. ask ANYONE who has actually studied these subjects who is right...you or I. Prepare to apologize for your ignorance. Of course, you won't take me up on my challenge...because you are nothing but a scared pussy...and you avoid the truth/facts at all cost so you can live in your pathetic paranoid fantasy world.


Enjoy your ridiculous existence. I'll enjoy laughing at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Noble, it is "so precious" how you keep responding to my posts.

You're keeping this thread alive, cudos to you, little man.

I always enjoy my ridiculous existence. Mine is real. If you only knew.......oh well.

I wish you many more paper airplanes.

SmileyWink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


You act as if I have any reason to NOT keep this thread "alive". I have no problem continuing to have the ignorance of chemtards pointed out.

Your existence is real-y pathetic..nothing more. If you believe there is a secret government program which uses "chemicals" deposited in the air through jet engines...you're nothing more than a paranoid loser...regardless of the fact that you are unable to understand that truth.

I wish you many more "chemtrails"...

Keep hiding from the truth...and under your bed...to avoid reality at all costs...
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ahhh, seemed just right today.
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We all know what they are up to. Just put them on ignore unless you need a good vent...lol. I rarely see these trolls on a thread unless it has chemtrail or some such in the topic so it's pretty clear. Atleast Snakey gets around. Must be nice to sit on your s226 all day and repeat the same general crap all day.

sockpuppet for the propoganda
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Blah Blah Blah. There is nothing vague about what I said. Your daddy was a glass maker right; cuz I can see right thru you.
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I didn't say anything about what YOU said, dolt. It's what's in the vid: "Crop dusters, equiped with weapons!" WTF is that supposed to mean? It's nothing but VAGUE INNUENDO! How do you extrapolate that to airliners spewing chemicals from their engines?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


How do you not?

Look little clown fish it's obvious that you are stunted in the mental department so just give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


How do I not? I'm a rational person. It's the same way I don't jump from a funny looking shadow in a photo to "They never landed on the Moon", or from lens flares in cheap cameras to a rogue planet hovering near the sun.

On the other hand, YOU arrive at absurd conclusions like your statement above: "Countries to include the US have admitted to using aerosol sprays from planes on their citizens".

It is to laugh!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Little fish you are far from rational. Let's start with the fact that you continue to come to this site just to argue your point...whatever that may be. crazy

Face it; you are a wackadoodle at it's finest or you are a paid shill. There are no other choices in the matter little fish on the night shift...must be lonely and sick. Trust me It's clear that you are not here to laugh....your ignorance and anger are showing for all to see just like the other one who is always here on any and every chemtrail thread.
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]

Drought Inducing Spray Over Oceans Continues
August 27, 2012

snipped;

Since the science regarding the drought causing effects of atmospheric aerosols is extremely clear, and not disputed in the scientific community, we can only conclude that those carrying out this horrific experimentation know exactly the havoc they are creating. Numerous and undisputed studies also exist on the ozone destroying properties of atmospheric aerosols. The same is true for the well documented toxic properties of already identified materials used in the aerial spray programs such as aluminum barium, strontium, manganese, among others. Materials that we are all breathing into our lungs as is the case for all life on earth at this point. These materials are also incendiaries which are certainly fueling the record fires in forests around the globe that have already been parched by the spray induced droughts.
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here is a vid on cloud formation that is probably on par with what you are looking for little fish;


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
 Quoting: The Guy


Guy . . . why do cumulus clouds form at altitudes and temperatures much warmer and lower than contrails form???

"The height at which the cloud starts to form (cloud base) depends on the amount of moisture in the air parcel that forms the cloud. Humid air will generally result in a lower cloud base.[8] In temperate areas, the base of the cumulus clouds is usually up to 8,000 ft (2,400 m) in altitude. In arid and mountainous areas, the cloudbase can be in excess of 20,000 ft (6,000 m)."

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


I've tried that. Chemtrail believers say that what I reference is invalid because I agree with the "official" explanation, and that I must be either A) Painfully ignorant, or B) In on it. The closest I've seen to actual numbers is analysis of material collected over several days in a HEPA filter (with no attempt to find the actual source of the windblown material), and soil samples (with no baseline control sample). You and others like you are the ones making the claim. If normal contrails can't form clouds, then how do you think natural clouds form?
 Quoting: The Guy


Hello Guy! you back in port . . .?? I haven't seen much of you lately . . . coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Yeah, just got back from deployment a few weeks ago. It's good to be home.
 Quoting: The Guy


Welcome home Sailor . . .applause2
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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I see they got you completely tethered here Noble since your most recent insidious post above.

I'm sure they give you plenty of paper airplanes to play with while you fullfil your fantasy of being a air-ro-not guru nut.


Noble......"The air-ro-nut case......SOOOOOOORY.
OFF HIS MEDS AGAIN. WHAT A PEST HE IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

crazyjak
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I see you've fallen for the ignorant chemtard nonsense...because you are prone to accepting bullshit as fact based on your pathetic world view.

Yeah..."air-ro-not casze.." That's still better than being a chemtard loser...which is all you will ever be...enjoy that!

What meds? It's you that's mentally ill..you pretend to have knowledge about a subject you have OBVIOUSLY never studied.

Go ahead,. ask ANYONE who has actually studied these subjects who is right...you or I. Prepare to apologize for your ignorance. Of course, you won't take me up on my challenge...because you are nothing but a scared pussy...and you avoid the truth/facts at all cost so you can live in your pathetic paranoid fantasy world.


Enjoy your ridiculous existence. I'll enjoy laughing at you.
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Noble, it is "so precious" how you keep responding to my posts.

You're keeping this thread alive, cudos to you, little man.

I always enjoy my ridiculous existence. Mine is real. If you only knew.......oh well.

I wish you many more paper airplanes.

SmileyWink
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You act as if I have any reason to NOT keep this thread "alive". I have no problem continuing to have the ignorance of chemtards pointed out.

Your existence is real-y pathetic..nothing more. If you believe there is a secret government program which uses "chemicals" deposited in the air through jet engines...you're nothing more than a paranoid loser...regardless of the fact that you are unable to understand that truth.

I wish you many more "chemtrails"...

Keep hiding from the truth...and under your bed...to avoid reality at all costs...
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Noble, uh, would you like a little cheese with that Whine?
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]

Drought Inducing Spray Over Oceans Continues
August 27, 2012

snipped;

Since the science regarding the drought causing effects of atmospheric aerosols is extremely clear, and not disputed in the scientific community, we can only conclude that those carrying out this horrific experimentation know exactly the havoc they are creating. Numerous and undisputed studies also exist on the ozone destroying properties of atmospheric aerosols. The same is true for the well documented toxic properties of already identified materials used in the aerial spray programs such as aluminum barium, strontium, manganese, among others. Materials that we are all breathing into our lungs as is the case for all life on earth at this point. These materials are also incendiaries which are certainly fueling the record fires in forests around the globe that have already been parched by the spray induced droughts.
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Good link #990. I've thought that for some time regarding the weather, "Those making the weather are the ones forecasting the weather". Makes since.

This is a important read for all concerned.
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Trust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2

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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]

Drought Inducing Spray Over Oceans Continues
August 27, 2012

snipped;

Since the science regarding the drought causing effects of atmospheric aerosols is extremely clear, and not disputed in the scientific community, we can only conclude that those carrying out this horrific experimentation know exactly the havoc they are creating. Numerous and undisputed studies also exist on the ozone destroying properties of atmospheric aerosols. The same is true for the well documented toxic properties of already identified materials used in the aerial spray programs such as aluminum barium, strontium, manganese, among others. Materials that we are all breathing into our lungs as is the case for all life on earth at this point. These materials are also incendiaries which are certainly fueling the record fires in forests around the globe that have already been parched by the spray induced droughts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Good link #990. I've thought that for some time regarding the weather, "Those making the weather are the ones forecasting the weather". Makes since.

This is a important read for all concerned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Look at this one;

[link to www.businessgreen.com]


US geoengineers to spray sun-reflecting chemicals from balloon

Two Harvard engineers are planning to spray thousands of tonnes of sun-reflecting chemical particles into the atmosphere to artificially cool the planet, using a balloon flying 80,000 feet over Fort Sumner, New Mexico.

The field experiment in solar geoengineering aims to ultimately create a technology to replicate the observed effects of volcanoes that spew sulphates into the stratosphere, using sulphate aerosols to bounce sunlight back to space and decrease the temperature of the Earth.
_________________________________________________

See the part about "solar radiation management decreasing percentage of rainfall" hmmm.
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
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Hi "oldtimer", I'd like to acknowledge your post yesterday and say, "you are welcome". Also found what you had to say very interesting. True, that no shill or disinfo agents/robots or whatever will be able to persuade those of us who know the truth of what we see and are experiencing.

Best regards and please stay in touch.
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]

Drought Inducing Spray Over Oceans Continues
August 27, 2012

snipped;

Since the science regarding the drought causing effects of atmospheric aerosols is extremely clear, and not disputed in the scientific community, we can only conclude that those carrying out this horrific experimentation know exactly the havoc they are creating. Numerous and undisputed studies also exist on the ozone destroying properties of atmospheric aerosols. The same is true for the well documented toxic properties of already identified materials used in the aerial spray programs such as aluminum barium, strontium, manganese, among others. Materials that we are all breathing into our lungs as is the case for all life on earth at this point. These materials are also incendiaries which are certainly fueling the record fires in forests around the globe that have already been parched by the spray induced droughts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Good link #990. I've thought that for some time regarding the weather, "Those making the weather are the ones forecasting the weather". Makes since.

This is a important read for all concerned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


Look at this one;

[link to www.businessgreen.com]


US geoengineers to spray sun-reflecting chemicals from balloon

Two Harvard engineers are planning to spray thousands of tonnes of sun-reflecting chemical particles into the atmosphere to artificially cool the planet, using a balloon flying 80,000 feet over Fort Sumner, New Mexico.

The field experiment in solar geoengineering aims to ultimately create a technology to replicate the observed effects of volcanoes that spew sulphates into the stratosphere, using sulphate aerosols to bounce sunlight back to space and decrease the temperature of the Earth.
_________________________________________________

See the part about "solar radiation management decreasing percentage of rainfall" hmmm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Also, makes me wonder about all the fires in the early Spring and since being due to particulates in the aerosol spraying.
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Distrust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
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All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Trust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
 Quoting: George B


All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
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Thanks . . . !!!

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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Distrust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
 Quoting: George B


All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
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So, because you agree with another paranoid idiot...that makes the debunkers wrong?!

Lol!!
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Distrust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
 Quoting: George B


All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462
So, because you agree with another paranoid idiot...that makes the debunkers wrong?!

Lol!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21661528


Could be, Noble, that the debunkers on this particular topic, "Chem Trails", are "divisive posers" with their own nefarious agenda. In which case, anything posted by them is immediately recognized as disinfo.

You in particular are the first and last to post on Chem Trail forums daily. OCD much?

All arguments posted (by such debunders) can be verified on contrail.sci. or various other links and not as the professional opinion of the individual debunkers who have on occasion referred to themselves as educated in this particular subject.

I'd say, think about it. But that would be out of character for a "divisive poser". Sound about right to you.

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