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Chemtrails Through The Eyes Of A Television Weatherman. INCREDIBLE!!

 
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Distrust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
 Quoting: George B


All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462
So, because you agree with another paranoid idiot...that makes the debunkers wrong?!

Lol!!
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Could be, Noble, that the debunkers on this particular topic, "Chem Trails", are "divisive posers" with their own nefarious agenda. In which case, anything posted by them is immediately recognized as disinfo.

You in particular are the first and last to post on Chem Trail forums daily. OCD much?

All arguments posted (by such debunkers) can be verified on contrail.sci. or various other links and not as the professional opinion of the individual debunkers who have on occasion referred to themselves as educated in this particular subject.

I'd say, think about it. But that would be out of character for a "divisive poser". Sound about right to you.
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Kinda going for that first word/last word affect.

Last post on page......first post on page.
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Why do people believe in conspiracies and specifically chemtrails?

 1) Our history,  literature, legends, entertainment, even our religions are replete with conspiracies . . . 

2) Remember . . . Where more than two people are gathered . . .  a conspiracy exists . . . LoL!!!

3) The world is obviously changing . . . instant communication, population density, technology, number and frequency of aircraft . . . and therefore, the greater chance to see persistent trails in the sky . . . and no one has convinced believers these trails cannot be chemtrails . . . 

4) Distrust of authority and their motives are at an all time low . . . i.e. "Just one in 10 Americans approves of the job Congress is doing, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday, tying the branch's lowest approval rating in 38 years. Congress originally hit the 10 percent mark in February, before bouncing back several points."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

5) Constant, heated and contentious debate exists over the state of global warming, global dimming, ozone depletion, and whether people are the major cause of a deteriorating climate and environment . . . or not. . .  scientists have effectively disenfranchised their credibility from much of the public . . . 

6) Atmospheric science is a complex and dynamic science . . . with infinite variability and unlimited sources of contamination, natural as well as man made  . . . 

7) In my opinion, when people were encouraged to observe the sky because of the chemtrail conspiracy . . . there was a significant realization . . . there was  much more to see than people thought . . . I believe some people had a primeval moment  . . . the sky was always the source of foreboding and early warning . . . Storm clouds, smoke, volcanic ash, dust storms, migrating fowl and seasonal changes . . . the sky is our crystal ball !!!!

8) Right or wrong . . . the conspiracy has a life of its own . . . no amount of argument or scientific theory will likely remove those who believe . . .   from their conspiracy  . . . because of their  distrust of scientists, authority, primeval foreboding, and knowledge, experience and belief in conspiracies. 

9) So debunkers by implying that those who believe in chemtrails are defective loons, stupid and uneducated is counter productive . . . the believers may well be the most honest and tuned-in group out there . . . you just don't understand them . . .  shitstir2
 Quoting: George B


All of the above, George. Especially the highlighted.


shitstir2 lol...uh-huh...me too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462
So, because you agree with another paranoid idiot...that makes the debunkers wrong?!

Lol!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21661528


Could be, Noble, that the debunkers on this particular topic, "Chem Trails", are "divisive posers" with their own nefarious agenda. In which case, anything posted by them is immediately recognized as disinfo.

You in particular are the first and last to post on Chem Trail forums daily. OCD much?

All arguments posted (by such debunkers) can be verified on contrail.sci. or various other links and not as the professional opinion of the individual debunkers who have on occasion referred to themselves as educated in this particular subject.

I'd say, think about it. But that would be out of character for a "divisive poser". Sound about right to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


So, because I may have OCD, my posts aren't factual? And show me a single day that you can show that I'm the first and last person to post about "chemtrails"...liar.

The reason our arguments can be verified on such sites...is because such sites are interested in the truth about this subject. Unlike the sites YOU accept as reputable...which post nonsense AS truth...and you buy it...because you are a moron. Just because those of us who understand these subjects post the same information...doesn't mean we learned it from each other...it's just common knowledge in the circles we travel in. Just as you accept bullshit as fact...because you only believe what conspiracy nuts tell you...because you are a paranoid loser.


Go ahead...find ANYTHING on contrail science that any person who has studied these subjects..IN THE WORLD...wont agree with.

The fact that you morons FAIL to find anything on that site which is shown to be a mistake or a lie is all the evidence I need to show YOU are a liar. The reason we all say the same thing...is because it's the truth. You don't believe it...because you don't trust us...because you are a paranoid loser...


Sucks to be you...I'm sure of it.
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Kinda going for that first word/last word affect.

Last post on page......first post on page.
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Like anyone gives a shit about either one of those things...
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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bump
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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bump
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Agreed bump
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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bump
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Agreed bump
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here is a vid on cloud formation that is probably on par with what you are looking for little fish;


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Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
 Quoting: The Guy


Guy . . . why do cumulus clouds form at altitudes and temperatures much warmer and lower than contrails form???

"The height at which the cloud starts to form (cloud base) depends on the amount of moisture in the air parcel that forms the cloud. Humid air will generally result in a lower cloud base.[8] In temperate areas, the base of the cumulus clouds is usually up to 8,000 ft (2,400 m) in altitude. In arid and mountainous areas, the cloudbase can be in excess of 20,000 ft (6,000 m)."

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
verycool
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Relative humidity, and therefore dew point and frost point, are not concrete numbers. They are a relation between absolute humidity (the actual amount of water vapor dissolved in the air) and temperature.
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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Actually, threads usually die pretty quickly if nobody argues. You should thank those who disagree with you for getting more people to read them.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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here is a vid on cloud formation that is probably on par with what you are looking for little fish;


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
 Quoting: The Guy


Guy . . . why do cumulus clouds form at altitudes and temperatures much warmer and lower than contrails form???

"The height at which the cloud starts to form (cloud base) depends on the amount of moisture in the air parcel that forms the cloud. Humid air will generally result in a lower cloud base.[8] In temperate areas, the base of the cumulus clouds is usually up to 8,000 ft (2,400 m) in altitude. In arid and mountainous areas, the cloudbase can be in excess of 20,000 ft (6,000 m)."

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
verycool
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Relative humidity, and therefore dew point and frost point, are not concrete numbers. They are a relation between absolute humidity (the actual amount of water vapor dissolved in the air) and temperature.
 Quoting: The Guy


Also, Altitude, particulates, up drafts, down drafts all play their parts . . . complex is it not???
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This is from the Consciousness Beyond Chemtrails Conference. This will explain HOW they're using Chemtrails & HAARP to manipulate our weather.


Scott Stevens is an award winning television weatherman who, a decade ago, began investigating the claims of Lt. Col Tom Bearden that North America was being subjected to full time weather modification.

During the course of that personal investigation he was the first on-air television weatherman to discover, through time-lapse photography, the primary reason for the now global chemtrail phenomena.

During Scott's two decade television career he worked in Topeka Kansas, Omaha Nebraska, Tulsa Oklahoma, Albany New York and Pocatello Idaho.






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Ok, so why can't jet exhaust cause water vapor to condense and form clouds?
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Guy . . . why do cumulus clouds form at altitudes and temperatures much warmer and lower than contrails form???

"The height at which the cloud starts to form (cloud base) depends on the amount of moisture in the air parcel that forms the cloud. Humid air will generally result in a lower cloud base.[8] In temperate areas, the base of the cumulus clouds is usually up to 8,000 ft (2,400 m) in altitude. In arid and mountainous areas, the cloudbase can be in excess of 20,000 ft (6,000 m)."

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
verycool
 Quoting: George B


Relative humidity, and therefore dew point and frost point, are not concrete numbers. They are a relation between absolute humidity (the actual amount of water vapor dissolved in the air) and temperature.
 Quoting: The Guy


Also, Altitude, particulates, up drafts, down drafts all play their parts . . . complex is it not???
 Quoting: George B



bump YES, COMPLEX, GEORGE. THNX.
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It's sad that most of this very important thead was dominated by shills and trolls. When will you guys just start ignoring them. They may hang around for a while, but they will eventually move on. If you give them no responce they end up repeating themselves until they have no other choice but to give up. So many great threads have been killed by them...it's sad.
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Actually, threads usually die pretty quickly if nobody argues. You should thank those who disagree with you for getting more people to read them.
 Quoting: The Guy


Yep. I see that not much has been posted after they got me banned. Censorship of facts and hard questions is all they really have left.
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No, not a hoaxer or a liar....that would be you. You just twist and turn words to suit your deed.

You're too obvious "Trolley Thing". All you want is something to dissect. Crossing T's, dotting I's to suit your particular brand of shill work.

Go cut and paste some more for your disinfo agenda.

You fail.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO AC ABOVE FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!

Hmmmm, tis interesting to see what's happening w/ this thread ,,, more of the same old, same old comes back 'round with the classic circus-maze techniques fully deployed.

As it is established fact that since the earliest inception years of this place as a component of "Ruby Tuesday" with the orginating founder (name withheld) along w/ the earnest & sincere collaboration of Kent Steadman - now deceased ( = GLP member "Emperor Kenton" CYBERSPACEORBIT [link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] ), that this forum, (along w/ many others since in the late 90's through past 12 years since), has been plagued with insidious entities that always appear {{like clockwork = perhaps "on duty" or an AI program or a BOT or ??!}} on most all threads discussing anything related to observations or theories concerning aerosol operations > chemtrail spraying / weather modification - climate engineering ,,, etc.

And the identities used by some of those nefarious entities' back in those early days were Jay Reyolds along with Deborah Lodi (who later on showed up @ GLP as IDOL = inverse of LODI) and there was a Duncan Kunz personage too,,, all of 'em a real pain in @ss along with others since then.

Seems things really don't change very fast in this matrix-hell world do they ? No matter as no shill or disinfo agents/robtots will ever be able to persuade many of us who 100% KNOW in our hearts the TRUTH of what we are seeing & experiencing; the many things taking place in this world in regards to chemtrails & much else too: horrifying events, deceptive manipulations, covert "black" operations, railroading & rigging of just about everything - and so on!
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You mean some of the same people post the same facts to counter the same lies and BS about contrails. Just because people post the same stuff, in the mind of a 'chemmie', that somehow makes it wrong.
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I found a forum with a thread on "chemtrails" from 2004-2005. It reads EXACTLY like what you still see today- mostly consisting of: "Contrails don't persist- chemtrails do..." and "It's different than when I was a kid..." and "Chemtrails are REAL- just LOOK at them...!!!" Yawn.
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I found a forum with a thread on "chemtrails" from 2004-2005. It reads EXACTLY like what you still see today- mostly consisting of: "Contrails don't persist- chemtrails do..." and "It's different than when I was a kid..." and "Chemtrails are REAL- just LOOK at them...!!!" Yawn.
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Why write all that? You could just substitute "Contrails don't persist- chemtrails do..." and "It's different than when I was a kid..." and "Chemtrails are REAL- just LOOK at them...!!!"

With one word...ignorance.
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And just to be clear, I mean facts, not rhetoric. Rhetoric is somebody saying something like, "I know what I see, this isn't normal, normal contrails don't do that," etc., without anything to back it up. Facts cite actual studies and verifiable numbers and experiments.
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I'll do you a massive favor navy boy!
Ill respond cause I'm bored.

The facts have been showed to you many times..(ya retard)
the situation in reality (what is being done) is wrong so the mainstream media answers you need will never happen.
What you know of science is surface earth sheeple science .
Its backward and a thousand years behind of whats real.
Chemtrails have at least 5 different purposes, none of which are for the benefit of Humankind. (so you'll be right then)

You get upset that no one answers your questions over the last few years LOL , well because your a dumb cunt..

same old same old questions that were answered before ..
So everyone knows your energy draining vampiraparasitic diversional shill tactician,,, and most couldnt be fucked to repeat the answers to your boring child like repetitive questions. and ya not worth it.

Your a dope.

If you are really sincerely dumb, and dont know by now, YOU NEVER WILL.
But I recon your scum and know exactly what your doing. the way you shills time in and tag team is a fukin eye opener.


Oh,, and as for nobel your just slime get fucked!
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LOL ! ^^ this ^^
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And just to be clear, I mean facts, not rhetoric. Rhetoric is somebody saying something like, "I know what I see, this isn't normal, normal contrails don't do that," etc., without anything to back it up. Facts cite actual studies and verifiable numbers and experiments.
 Quoting: The Guy

I'll do you a massive favor navy boy!
Ill respond cause I'm bored.

The facts have been showed to you many times..(ya retard)
the situation in reality (what is being done) is wrong so the mainstream media answers you need will never happen.
What you know of science is surface earth sheeple science .
Its backward and a thousand years behind of whats real.
Chemtrails have at least 5 different purposes, none of which are for the benefit of Humankind. (so you'll be right then)

You get upset that no one answers your questions over the last few years LOL , well because your a dumb cunt..

same old same old questions that were answered before ..
So everyone knows your energy draining vampiraparasitic diversional shill tactician,,, and most couldnt be fucked to repeat the answers to your boring child like repetitive questions. and ya not worth it.

Your a dope.

If you are really sincerely dumb, and dont know by now, YOU NEVER WILL.
But I recon your scum and know exactly what your doing. the way you shills time in and tag team is a fukin eye opener.


Oh,, and as for nobel your just slime get fucked!
 Quoting: thritical cinkin 14953663

LOL ! ^^ this ^^
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Thanks to the OP #658 for a good thread and video. We got a lot out of the information.
And thanks to above poster for your keen words and observations regarding the vampiraparaitic diversional shills (lol). You nailed it!hf
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