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What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?

 
iwannaknow
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01/02/2006 02:27 PM
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What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
I wanna know, please.

My bos is freemason and he is proud of it.
Rich rich rich bastard!
sonikb
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01/02/2006 02:30 PM
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
dunno, you have to graduate from freemasonry to get illuminazi degree
ORBY

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01/02/2006 02:33 PM
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there are seven steps to freemasonry
the 8th step takes you inot the illuminati. which means the illuminated ones
For the lord is my shepherd
I shall not want
idol_harobed

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01/02/2006 02:35 PM
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My fiancé is a freemason too, his title or rank is called something like "master architect".
I am what I read.
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 02:37 PM
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
Freemasonary goes thru 33 levels!?! I believe.
Level 34-36 are the Illuminated ones or Illuminati...

Not sure though...
iwannaknow (OP)
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01/02/2006 02:46 PM
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
So Freemasons are Illuminati's sheeps?
starlight afar

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01/02/2006 02:48 PM
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Your low degree Freemasons are the money givers for the higher degrees, just like everything else we have, the low people serve the bosses.
sonikb
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01/02/2006 02:53 PM
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the low-level freemasonry are unaware of the damage they do to the world. It's only their bosses who know.
iwannaknow (OP)
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
I notice something, they love reggae music and rastafari movement inside their agenda. If kabbala wear red ribbon around the wrist (like under madonna's watch); they love to wear rastafari colour (green-yellow-red).I wonder....
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01/02/2006 03:18 PM
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Rank-N-File Freemasons are in the dark.
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 04:08 PM
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>>Rank-N-File Freemasons are in the dark.<<

It probably depends on the particular lodge, but in general I suspect the modern forms of Freemasonry are far different from lodges of the enlightenment era. Civilian secret societies have ginven way to professional spookism and organized crime.
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 04:17 PM
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not much, they both end up in the lake of fire.
Anonymous Coward
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"Civilian secret societies have ginven way to professional spookism and organized crime."

Yeah. the boyz in charge keep the local yokels in check.
Anonymous Coward
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Freemasons are just a hand of the illuminati along with the Bilderbergers, the world bankers, and the Catholic church. There are 32 degrees of masonry and two branches to travel, the scottish and york rites. The vast majority of masons attain only to the third degree...
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 04:20 PM
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BTW...there is a 33 degree which is appointed upon a candidate, most times however it comes postumously.

It is for charity above and beyond or some such thing.
Anonymous Coward
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
The main difference is that the Fremasons exist.
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 04:45 PM
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OP...there are black and white masonic groups, the scots masons dont give any quarter to the black masonic prince hall masons. garvey, the prophet of rastafari was a black mason. i am a rastaman and while there is a similarity to the organization of some groups with masonic lore, its the opposite of what you expect, they stole there teachings and organizations from african and arabic sufi groups and imitated and replaced spiritual goals for worldly powers, stealing symbols and using them. what do connections have you seen with rasta and freemasons? i deal with nyabgingi and bobo dread who chant fire on that wickedness
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Justifications for the divinity of Haile Selassie
NamesRastafarians use Biblical names such as "Lord of Lords", "King of Kings" and "Conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah" for Haile Selassie. These terms had been used throughout history to describe Ethiopian Emperors, but with the crowning of Haile Selassie I they were seen as evidence that supported his divine status.
LineageMany Rastafarians trace Haile Selassie's lineage back to King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. They believe that the Queen of Sheba's visit to King Solomon found in the Book of Kings (1 Kings 10: 1-13) provides further proof of the divinity of Haile Selassie I.
&#61535; Rastafarians believe that King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba had sex during the visit, which led to the conception of a child who was in the same line of descendents as Haile Selassie I.
&#61535; To many Rastafarians this shows the divine nature of Haile Selassie, as Haile Selassie is therefore related to Solomon's father King David and therefore to Jesus.
DeferenceWhen Haile Selassie I was crowned Emperor, the King of England who at that time was regarded by many as the most powerful man in the world because of the size of the British Empire, was unable to attend. However, he sent the Duke of Gloucester to represent him.
The Duke of Gloucester bowed to Haile Selassie on meeting him. Many Rastafarians believe that this revealed that the new Ethiopian Emperor was more important than the most important man in the world.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Rastafari State of The Union Address 2004 - Part II {Exposing the BOULE and the guardian Free Mason influence on the Rastafari Movement } [The Rastafari State of the Union Address 2004 - Part I] The Rastafari Movement is mathematical, it is absolute, unerring, meticulous and scientific being exact. Therefore ones who claim to practice Rastafari must get back to basics - The Republic of Rastafari O.A.N. has laid out The Matrix a foundation as formula via The Underground News Network, being The Esoteric Teachings of Ital Iman I/ Da.Uru I Editor/Web Grandmaster; as The Holy Quran was received over a 23 year period of Time so were The teachings of Underground News Network which contains excerpts From {The Holy Book Of Wonder} in The Beginning our wisdom or Kabalah came from signs in the heavens.

For several years, as Makonnen's chaplains and astrologers had been foretelling the infants birth; Neptune and Pluto, they explained, had started slowly moving toward each other in the year 1399; both planets traveled along the heliocentric line, taking 493 years to intersect; the moment would come in July 1892, {The child was born just ten years after the 1882 Venus transit] sparking off radiations from other zodiacal signs that would mystically influence the constellation Leo, which corresponded to the biblical house of Judah, Jacob's fourth son, who was born the same month, as recounted in Isaiah. But before this birth, said the seers, there would be a great drought in Ethiopia, beginning in 1889, despite the fact that the country traditionally enjoyed two rainy seasons. The eventual return of the rains would confirm the identity and destiny of the child, as it was written in Isaiah 9: 6: "for unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulders; and his name shall be called wonderful counselor, the mighty god, the everlasting father, the prince of peace."



It has come that time in this 74-year movement named after the child Born Rastafari&#61628; This year 2004 the 74th year of The Movement and of the planets July 23 2004 marks the end of the ignorance the world has witnessed concerning our beloved and esoteric order Ital Iman I he is 27 years younger than the movement the number 27 is significant in the fact that 72 Nations bowed to this truth. In the esoteric Masonic tradition this wisdom corresponds to the royal arch, or seventh degree according to the tradition which is dictated through scriptures we are dedicated to the work of Zerubbabel - flourished 6th century BC. Governor of Judea under whom the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple at Jerusalem took place. Of Davidic origin, Zerubbabel is thought to have originally been a Babylonian Jew who returned to Jerusalem at the head of a band of Jewish exiles and became governor of Judea under the Persians. Influenced by the prophets Haggai and Zechariah, he rebuilt the Temple. The seventh degree is called the royal arch because we posses the wisdom of The "ARK" of The covenant or vault arch also depict eminent, chief, heights, master, number one etc. our wisdom is arcane; and archaic, we present Rastafari in it's archetypal form. Why is July 23rd important in the yearly observance of The child born on that date in the year 1892, first keep in mind that the number 23 is the resonant number to the enigma star Sirius; The earliest symbol for "God " that was used in ancient cuneiform texts was a star; here is wisdom which cannot be refuted:-
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01/02/2006 05:49 PM
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
The ones you really must watch out for are the Discordians.



They will fuck around with you whenever you let them.


(teeeehee)

HAIL ERES!!!

HAIL DISCORDIA!!

and screw their stupid attempts to make a system out of chaos!

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IrishJim

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01/02/2006 05:59 PM
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Illuminati suck.

Freemasons blow.
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And christians mop up the mess!

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faith
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George Bush is a 33rd rank freemason.
And this is true of most of the men in positions of power.
They are mainly members of trade with their own business or in high ranking management positions. They tend to give their trade and business to those within their own freemason groups.

This way they can push out smaller business men by making sure they do not get the business if you do anything to upset them.
Anonymous Coward
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OP is that your only connection that Ital Iman or whatever? no real rasta reasoning is "on line" for a quick download. thats that persons opinion and not to be considered any kind of consensus at all on Rastafari belief.
Will from Rushy

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01/02/2006 08:23 PM
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Google, Albert Pike, to learn where the 33 degree came from.

There is other stuff that you will find that is offered as fact, but I can't verify it.

so take it with a grain of salt.

though he is "the man" for this country and its followers.

Illumanati comes from a group that was started in Germany.

It is suspected they "infiltrated" the Masons during/after the formation of their ideas and idealogy.

Albert Pike is connected thru some references to the above.

There is also a letter he supposedly wrote. Again, its only a theory. No direct.

each will have to look and observe and function according to what you think.
when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2006 08:39 PM
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Not all Illuminati are Freemasons. All freemasons are illuminati.

Not all freemasons know it, but all above about the 5th degree do.
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01/03/2006 02:08 PM
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book BTTT
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KILLUMINATI
me777

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When thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Isaiah 26:9

"Exposing Those Who Contradict"
[link to bible-truths.com]

"For as in Adam ALL die, so also in the Messiah will ALL be made alive."
[link to www.tentmaker.org]
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When thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Isaiah 26:9

"Exposing Those Who Contradict"
[link to bible-truths.com]

"For as in Adam ALL die, so also in the Messiah will ALL be made alive."
[link to www.tentmaker.org]
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Re: What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?
I believe they are different but these two share common goals.



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