What is the different between Illuminati & Freemansory?

Aren't there 360 degrees in a circle?

If they don't have a level of 360 then they are both useless imho.

Illuminati are the globalist elite pushing for a one-world government so as to bring about the coming of the anti-christ. Freemasons are furthur down the food chain.

I heard that the catholic church owned templars money and was too hungry to give it up so they told people that templars (the first freemasons) that they were bad just like how they told people if they didn't pay then they were going to hell.Im just telling this how i heard it and freemasons actually believe of EQUALITY in religion and are potrayed as bad people . then i herd that the illuminati are the straight up devil worshipers , but you can never know if your not a high ranked freemason

Illuminati wasn't formed in Germany dumbass, they were formed in Babelon, and Freemason was formed in Midevil times.

Illuminati- Puts science before GOD.
Freemason - Puts GOD before all.

I don't know the rest of the details but this is what I know so far for a fact.

I think there is 360 degrees, with Satan at the top. First three degrees are the blue lodge, next 30 are the black lodge. The information I've heard and seen is fuzzy after that. I believe you move into the Grand Orient Lodge or the Palladian (sp?) Lodge after the 33rd degree.
What i do know is there is definitely more then 33 degrees in the whole system.

Masonry has been around since Solomon, just called something different. Weishept's Illuminati was formed in Germany. Though it's believed he was used to release that information, why i am not sure.

THE HISTORY OF FRATERNITIES began in the dark ages with the Knights of the Grail. The Knights of the Grail expanded in France and Germany to be the Teutonic knights which drew a great deal on Norse mythology. The Teutonic knights became the Knights Templar during the Crusades.

The Templars were abolished by Pope Pious in 1317 and excommunicated for heresy. They remained powerful in France when Phillip reformed them under the name of the Knights of the Garter.

In England, the Knights of the Garter took root at the Crown Temple and in Scotland at Rosslyn Chapel, where their practices became known as the Fraternal order of Freemasonry.

The Freemasons came to the United States from Scotland and developed into various organizations - the Hellfire Club, The Skull and Bones, the Cross and Key, the Illuminati, the Druids, etc.
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Freemason Knights Templar

"All Knights Templar are members of the world's oldest fraternal organization known as "The Ancient Free and Accepted Masons" or more commonly known as "Masons". However, not all masons are Templars."
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Rosslyn Chapel, the first masonic lodge, built by William St. Claire of the Templars in 1446.
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Crown Temple, London
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The Knights Templars and Freemasonry
by Harun Yahya
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History of the Templars and how they became Freemason, and numerous other societies, and numerous other societies.


Secret Behind Secret Societies
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Walter Veith
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Lmfao! This cracked me up [= I love the answer thou

One is what you are one is what you do.

Uh... actually they worship lucifer 1 freemason openly admitted it on a youtube video by accident. Pretty funny... his quotes were "lucifer is enlightment"

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Exactly!

Jesuits created the illuminati - who then infiltrated and took over the top levels of Freemasonry as cover for their activities - all the lower downs are just sheeple.

But How much real power is in their hands nowadays is debateable - things have moved on!

i believe there is actually such big difference between freemanson because they all have divine way of living me i say killuminati

my brother believes in the conspiracy of the illuminati so am scared that oneday he might want to become one of them and that will effect the hole gad damm family of ours at home why dont we stop being concerned about the illuminati..................

Essentially nothing, but specifically Freemasonry is just one part of the bigger reality of the Illuminati Society.

The Illuminati are everywhere and in everything, they hide within organizations and control from behind the scenes. Freemasonry might be considered the "field headquarters" of the Illuminati, while their main HQ is within the Vatican.

It is a Secret...

The "Illuminati" is the underground front of the Jesuit Order. Freemasonry is a front for the illuminati which is a front for...well....

no, Freemasons are the good guys, Illuminati are bad guys.when he said lucifer is enlightment, he meant it literally. lucifer does not always mean satan

not much, they both end up in the lake of fire.
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we should pray for them dangit!!

i dont want to be a coward ha ha the time we decide to have love and freedom for all be our declaration we will sucseed in life whoever we are in the world. There is a way May love come to claim you illuminati and freemason and You. i pray you have joy fellow speaking-kind.

-Ty

Illuminati suck
freemason's blow
but only Christians swallow

I doubt that he would be titled master or grand 'architect' as this was the name for the freemason's higher power and as they follow the beliefs of the ''blueprint'' - which is satan's plan for the last 7 days on earth, the master/grand architect is in reference to who drafted the blueprint which is satan. - He possibly was titled a grand master of a specific lodge.

One is for sheeple fiction and one is for rich old kooks,.

They are all of the devil, and you will burn in hell for being involved with either if you die in your sins. Try and be content with what you have, because your boss won't be feeling so proud if he has to pay for it. Heed this warning.

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Wow. It is amazing someone could be intelligent to get a Phd
and still get everything so wrong. Be careful who you listen to. Those who speak against the Catholic Church speak against the Church founded by Christ Himself. Most people who teach this stuff learned through heretics that left the true faith. Don't rely on others pray that Christ will send the truth to your heart and then REALLY read the bible. The WHOLE new testament. Most of those who quote against the church ignore MUCH of the words spoken by Christ Himself and prefer to find some phrase in one of the letters from a disciple and take it out of context.

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i challenge you all mothafucking members of those pathetic so called secret society..FREEMASON AND KILLUMINATI..I WILL BELIEVE in your organization if you will find me and kill me ..fuck you biatch!! fuck your fucking organizations! freemason and illuminati is our only cheap slave...fuck SATAN.. knock me out down if you could!

It is my understanding that there are five sides to a pyramid. The whole pyramid is the illuminati apparatus.

On the front facing side, you have the masons. How can they be so dangerous if they aren't really hiding themselves? Well, the masons are the builders. They are the worker class. They run government offices.

The Other side are the knights. There are several orders of knights, and they run the gamut from semi-moral all the way to bloody satanic. Many rich and powerful people are bestowed such knighthoods.

The other side, is the church of bob and discordian groups. They are the ones that usually beguile the entertainment industry. These are the ones that also serve to debunk conspiracies in general, being paid handsomely to shill in and for the military, such as NSA and Pentagon.

The fourth side, the one behind it, are the bavarian royals and their heirs, I believe carlos of spain is one of them. These people believe they are nephelium, half angel half human. They have loyalty from all countries and heads of state because they have been running the show for a very long time. They don't have to have an army, or a real country, because with one phone call, they can have a US, or USSR fighter jet bomb someone's mansion within ten minutes, just because that person's dog peed on their tire when it was parked outside of a ritzy hotel.

There are two more parts of a pyramid. The bottom is next. The bottom is the truly hidden class, us. This is where they build their machine upon, their death machine. They keep us down for centuries until a cosmic catastrophe is upon us, then, about a hundred years before the event, they allow technology to prosper, and so they can build their bunkers to outride the storms while the population above ground is killed off when the building is done, to prevent them from getting revenge when they come out of the bunkers in about a hundred or so years. Exactly 100 years ago, the bavarians began what is called Oktober Fest. This celebration occurs right at the time Elenin/Nibiru comes through and wipes us out. For 100 years they have had the locals in Austria/Germany/Hungary celebrate their own demise.

The very top of the pyramid can't really be called a side, but it is a point. And at this point is the cap stone, the false image of Jesus, Lucifer, God wannabe who wants human kind to stay in a kind of suspended animation because he/she doesn't want us to rule him/her one day, for truly, we are capable of doing so one day because God made us able to do so.

But the human race is very young, and we don't fight for truth enough as a species, so satan/lucifer has been able to hold us down all this time. But that time is at an end. This is lucifer's last run, and he's/she's spitting mad.