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Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...

 
citizenperth
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Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Eerie stuff.

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

and can anyone work out what the first picture is displaying?

it looks to be plants but were they left there? grown?.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
That's nice, same thing happened at Chernobyl.

Nature does just fine when you get the humans out of the way.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
That's nice, same thing happened at Chernobyl.

Nature does just fine when you get the humans out of the way.
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surprising how fast it happens when there's no maintainance....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Can't wait to see Mothra emerge.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
That's nice, same thing happened at Chernobyl.

Nature does just fine when you get the humans out of the way.
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surprising how fast it happens when there's no maintainance....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Indeed, makes you wonder if the "hazards" of radiation exposure are exaggerated.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Radiation affects plants very differently from animals.
Perth, here's a great photo essay on the theft and recycling of radioactive metals from Chernobyl.
You just know that the same thing will happen in fukushima.
The site has several other photo essays on the area. Enjoy:
[link to www.guillaume-herbaut.com]
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
That's nice, same thing happened at Chernobyl.

Nature does just fine when you get the humans out of the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22323395


surprising how fast it happens when there's no maintainance....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Indeed, makes you wonder if the "hazards" of radiation exposure are exaggerated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22323395


I read a book about the wildlife around chernobyl; one word, thriving.

Plant life seems to grow bushier and not as tall.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
My sister said it would take 20 years for the highways in the south to be completely overgrown and covered if there was a disaster.

How about the mutant butterflies? They are supposed to be more resistant than humans to radiation but they are in the 2nd generation and horribly mutated. The human equivalent will show up in 30 to 90 years. We are seeing the future of mankind in the butterflies.

Haven't read you in a while. Good to see ya here.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
My sister said it would take 20 years for the highways in the south to be completely overgrown and covered if there was a disaster.

How about the mutant butterflies? They are supposed to be more resistant than humans to radiation but they are in the 2nd generation and horribly mutated. The human equivalent will show up in 30 to 90 years. We are seeing the future of mankind in the butterflies.

Haven't read you in a while. Good to see ya here.
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The butterflies are actually much less resistant, and prone to mutation. That's why it's a good idea to watch them.

Early warning system.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Insects, including butterflies, are relatively radiation resistant compared to human beings.
Insects reproduce faster than us, so we are seeing the results of fukushima on the butterflies before we see it in humans.
When we do it will be horrific.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
My sister said it would take 20 years for the highways in the south to be completely overgrown and covered if there was a disaster.

How about the mutant butterflies? They are supposed to be more resistant than humans to radiation but they are in the 2nd generation and horribly mutated. The human equivalent will show up in 30 to 90 years. We are seeing the future of mankind in the butterflies.

Haven't read you in a while. Good to see ya here.
 Quoting: WindyMind


The butterflies are actually much less resistant, and prone to mutation. That's why it's a good idea to watch them.

Early warning system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22323395


Gundersen: There’s some good science out about rapid mutations in insects.

Insects are relatively radiation resistant compared to human beings.

So, yeah, it is frightening.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Eerie stuff.

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

and can anyone work out what the first picture is displaying?

it looks to be plants but were they left there? grown?.....
 Quoting: citizenperth


amazing, thanks for finding this.any reason why link isnt working any longer?
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
errrr... site is down.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
errrr... site is down.
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should be online :)
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
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- Albert Einstein
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


glad they pay the homeless to turn up with muted giegers and safe-plates...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Eerie stuff.

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

and can anyone work out what the first picture is displaying?

it looks to be plants but were they left there? grown?.....
 Quoting: citizenperth


They look like tomato plants. Apparently they were never brought in.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


glad they pay the homeless to turn up with muted giegers and safe-plates...
 Quoting: citizenperth


Couple of points:

1. Fukushima has the climate of San Jose California. Plants grow like weeds there.
[link to radioactivity.mext.go.jp]
2. According to the latest measurement there is one hot spot. The next highest reading 2.6 microseiverts/h = 22 mS/y.
For comparison, Denver is over 6 mS/y and Ramsar (in Iran) has levels between 30 and 230 mS/y. Neither place has unusually high cancer levels.
[link to slackwire.blogspot.com]
3. The threat of radiation is vastly overrated.
* All the released Xenon has decayed.
* All the released Iodine has decayed.
* The response to Cesium is exponential not linear so a high dose is needed to cause problems.
As the link says according to some studies they killed more people evacuating Fukushima than would have been harmed by radiation.
There are hot spots that probably should be marked and avoided but most of the exclusion zone is pretty cold radiologically.
Poriwoggu
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


glad they pay the homeless to turn up with muted giegers and safe-plates...
 Quoting: citizenperth


Couple of points:

1. Fukushima has the climate of San Jose California. Plants grow like weeds there.
[link to radioactivity.mext.go.jp]
2. According to the latest measurement there is one hot spot. The next highest reading 2.6 microseiverts/h = 22 mS/y.
For comparison, Denver is over 6 mS/y and Ramsar (in Iran) has levels between 30 and 230 mS/y. Neither place has unusually high cancer levels.
[link to slackwire.blogspot.com]
3. The threat of radiation is vastly overrated.
* All the released Xenon has decayed.
* All the released Iodine has decayed.
* The response to Cesium is exponential not linear so a high dose is needed to cause problems.
As the link says according to some studies they killed more people evacuating Fukushima than would have been harmed by radiation.
There are hot spots that probably should be marked and avoided but most of the exclusion zone is pretty cold radiologically.
 Quoting: Poriwoggu


of course the 'fast' radioctive elements where measured and have declined....

NOTHING.... NOTHING on the Plutonium and Uranium, Amercanium etc etc.... they also went sky high in the explosions.... 3 unavailable nuke cores????

.. yes you're right... all is well...

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 08/30/2012 03:08 AM
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sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
- Albert Einstein
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Oh gosh, here comes that Japanese guy spoutin' off...
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Eerie stuff.

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

and can anyone work out what the first picture is displaying?

it looks to be plants but were they left there? grown?.....
 Quoting: citizenperth


They look like tomato plants. Apparently they were never brought in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20348387


rofl
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
I got hundreds of weeds in my yard bigger than all those weeds. I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Wow. The first picture was very creepy.
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


glad they pay the homeless to turn up with muted giegers and safe-plates...
 Quoting: citizenperth


Couple of points:

1. Fukushima has the climate of San Jose California. Plants grow like weeds there.
[link to radioactivity.mext.go.jp]
2. According to the latest measurement there is one hot spot. The next highest reading 2.6 microseiverts/h = 22 mS/y.
For comparison, Denver is over 6 mS/y and Ramsar (in Iran) has levels between 30 and 230 mS/y. Neither place has unusually high cancer levels.
[link to slackwire.blogspot.com]
3. The threat of radiation is vastly overrated.
* All the released Xenon has decayed.
* All the released Iodine has decayed.
* The response to Cesium is exponential not linear so a high dose is needed to cause problems.
As the link says according to some studies they killed more people evacuating Fukushima than would have been harmed by radiation.
There are hot spots that probably should be marked and avoided but most of the exclusion zone is pretty cold radiologically.
 Quoting: Poriwoggu


I'm from San Jose. Lol
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
loved the guy they made drink water 'decontaminated' at the plant on telly... biggest 'epic fail' ever in 'safety demonstrations'.....

and for the nay sayers.... this was updated in august this year... i would look at the liberal dose of appendices...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Radiation from Fukushima....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
twitter: @citizenperth
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
Yeah really eerie stuff when there is workers standing on the roof pulling it apart cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


glad they pay the homeless to turn up with muted giegers and safe-plates...
 Quoting: citizenperth


Couple of points:

1. Fukushima has the climate of San Jose California. Plants grow like weeds there.
[link to radioactivity.mext.go.jp]
2. According to the latest measurement there is one hot spot. The next highest reading 2.6 microseiverts/h = 22 mS/y.
For comparison, Denver is over 6 mS/y and Ramsar (in Iran) has levels between 30 and 230 mS/y. Neither place has unusually high cancer levels.
[link to slackwire.blogspot.com]
3. The threat of radiation is vastly overrated.
* All the released Xenon has decayed.
* All the released Iodine has decayed.
* The response to Cesium is exponential not linear so a high dose is needed to cause problems.
As the link says according to some studies they killed more people evacuating Fukushima than would have been harmed by radiation.
There are hot spots that probably should be marked and avoided but most of the exclusion zone is pretty cold radiologically.
 Quoting: Poriwoggu

bsflagbsflagbsflag
It is still spewing radiation into the environment daily.
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
[link to fukushima-diary.com]
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Re: Photos from inside the 20 km Fukushima zone...
The differences in doses are

1) An external dose of ionizing radiation,

2) Ingesting particles of ionizing radiation.

Most weeds have a life cycle of 1 year, Humans 70 years.

Plants may, or may not uptake radioactive particles, humans who ingest radioactive particles may have the particles permanently lodged in their heart, lungs, bones, liver, thyroid, liver, and other organs.

Time will tell the damage this accident is going to cause to mammals.

That's O.K. we want to assure profits and jobs for industrial psychopaths.

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