AGAIN new orders from DHS : 165 million rounds of 223 and pepper spray

the 62 grain is the ss109 armor piercing bullet, steel core. Why they need armor piercing is something someone should ask them

yep, you are correct. just a matter of time till it all kicks off......

overseas

Or not. Just brainwashing.

ya, unfortunately 556 and 223 have been lumped into the same category all too often.

seems like any rifle with a detachable box magazine is chambered in 556, except maybe the rugar mini 14. bolt guns are mostly 223 as that is the hunting round version.

it could be that some .gov stooge doesnt really know the difference between the 2 calibers when they placed the order.

Last Edited by Krinkfan on 08/21/2012 12:32 PM

there is no gunshow loophole

private sales by non dealers are legal. except it would seem where they gather. Dont be a simp

Ah, thank you. That is fresh and makes sense. I read the tank convoy in California is to thwart any untoward movement on the Mexican border, a manoeuver for the forces of good. I hope you are right.

FEMA camps ammo bitchez!!
At least we know already what ammo our guards are gonna use.

ss109 green tip is tungsten tipped perpetrator, still a lead core though.

not really AP in the traditional sense. that would be the M995 black tip 52gr with large steel core.

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Fucking government parasite.
You are part of the problem, asshole.

No, you are wrong. The .223 Remington and 5.56 can both come in 62 grain bullets! They are not the same.
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"5.56×45mm NATO (official NATO nomenclature 5.56 NATO) is a rifle cartridge developed in the United States and originally chambered in the M16 rifle. Under STANAG 4172, it is a standard cartridge for NATO forces as well as many non-NATO countries.[2] It is derived from, but not identical to, the .223 Remington cartridge."

The difference is the 5.56 produces higher pressure and imparts greater energy on the target then the .223.

The government must think we are completely stupid.

First, we should recognize that the government is motivated by sociopathic individuals that could give a rat's ass for any one of us individually. That's just the way it is, plan and act accordingly.

Second, the various preparations undertaken quietly, such as FEMA camps preparations, purchases of food, hardened equipment being distributed around the country in strategic locations, indicates that there is a plan in operation that anticipates some very major events taking place. Were I a sociopathic government leader/planner, I would leave the ammunition/arms acquisition to near the endgame time, because that is certainly indicative of the need to project deadly force. That means a foe that is either aggressive, or desperate.

Surveillance is increased in depth and breadth. Over the air, through the wires.

Factions of the population that will not willingly transport themselves or report to a FEMA camp are being labelled, identified, and demonized. Example: veterans. It is especially important to "sequester" veterans, who have been trained, conditioned to accept hardships, and combat hardened. Veterans are unlikely to yield without a fight.

Financial collapse preparations are being made as well.

It is very apparent to me that societal collapse instigated by a financial system collapse is on our near horizon. They know it, but dare not show that they know it. But they know that many of us know it. They want to know who we are, and where we are, so we can be dealt with.

Their plan is predicated on having dutiful minions that are willing to pull the trigger on their fellow citizens.

If a society exists that provides sufficient numbers of such people, then I want no part of it. Life is more or less over. There is nothing to lose. Key phrase that: nothing to lose.

I believe they are wrong in their assumption that their goons will point their guns in the direction they wish.

Just my opinion, and thoughts for a work of fiction I am contemplating. It is a futuristic science fiction novel - the plot of which is that a core group of bankers use fiat currencies as a headlock and stranglehold on the political and media classes, while they inflate a debt bubble that is impossible to sustain, robbing the population all the while of their accumulated AND FUTURE wealth. This group leverages their puppets in government to turn against the population once the wealth has been plundered and the debt bubble allowed to explode. The population rises against these evil oligarchs, finds them, and at first retards their plan, but ultimately, triumphs over greed, pride, and sociopathy. Some of the heros in the novel see it all coming, and prepare, both themselves, and survival assets. They are dedicated, motivated, cunning, and courageous once they realize that they face a choice of life, under certain servitude, or death in an attempt to live as free individuals on the face of good planet Earth.

ARUBA?!

keep rowing braahs!

What if they know China is going to cash in on our huge debt and take our country as payment. Is that really that far out of the box? I don't know if its for Marshall law or for foreign invasion but that's what I conclude. They aren't buying this for shots and giggles. Time to start connecting the dots. I read on another thread that a trucker just ran a shipment of boots piled high. Also huge orders of meal rations. They are preforming a lot of homeland drills. What else can be added to this list? Does this have to do with the federal reserve and money collapsing. Does it have to do with a major earth catasrophe we are in the dark about? If this was to help the citizens why aren't they training us. So I don't think its for us. Anyone have info on large orders of temp shelter,blankets, medicine,.? Somethings not right and I don't like the idea of our citizens paying out of our tax dollars all this ammo which could be used against usp

Green tip is M855. A standard steel perpetrator.
Black is AP.
Red tip is tracer.
Unpainted is for unarmored targets.
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The more you know...

Freeman, I like but I also like to keep an open mind. These rounds won't fit an M16. I think it is finally time for a 'game changer', I think it is finally imminent, something is going to happen. That is why this was posted, we still don't know who is doing this, and thanks to all the intelligent replies. Maybe it is an altruistic force who is preventing us from arming ourselves in the event of such a transistion.
I don't know if I should plug fulford but his posts are getting better. This is some serious stuff.

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Thank you!! + karma for you. I was beginning to think i was talking to a wall.

>223 and 5.56 mm Nato are the same people.I know.

They look the same on the outside but are not the same. You can fire .223 from an M16 (they are chambered in 5.56), but the 5.56 has higher pressures.

No they are not. If they were the same they would use the same name. Read, it's been posted.
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These rounds will definitely fit in a m16. used them in one last week. fyi

Here is a General commenting on this. Nice contrast to our work.
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Assclown... In war time the burden of purchasing ammo does not fall on DHS

You are correct sir,also have used 5.56 in my .223 mini 14 for years without a problem, Ruger designed them to shoot surplus ammo.

Last Edited by Guntard on 08/21/2012 01:27 PM

Wow!! Brit AC is criticizing spelling????

thanks for correcting me. i know better and spaced that detail out.

People who don't have first-hand experience with 223/5.56 shouldn't speculate on their use. 223 will operate fine in a 5.56 chambered rifle. However, 5.56 should not be used in a 223 chambered rifle. It's as simple as that.

As far as the gov ordering 223; many of the ammo manufacturers make soft-point / hollow point law enforcement ammo in 223. They probably do this to avoid lawsuits from gov agencies that might screw-up and use 5.56 in 223 rifles (not all AR's and other law enforcement rifles are chambered in 5.56, many are chambered in 223).

They are not purchasing 223 to save money. Most of the law enforcement 223 ammo is much more expensive than military M193 or M855. The big ammo manufacturers simply make LE ammo in 223.

what goes around comes around?
oh right, so the US citizens really deserve this.
we are the ones who got ours selves into this mess, right?
we are the ones that this ammo will be expelled on.

its not a "LOL" moment. your country is next, 'mate'.