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Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."

 
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In other words, you lack the ability or willingness to assess the information being offered, so you question the motives of the poster. How droll.
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not the motives, I already know the answers to the question of why the orbit is different. I read it on you tube in 1 or 2 paragraphs written by someone seemingly far more intelligent.sadly.
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You aren't making much sense, seeing as how Jupiter's orbit is NOT "different". That's the whole point, here.
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So all is well? no worries! Thanks good doctor!!
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Um... I'm not *A* doctor or *THE* doctor.
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There are thousands of both amateur and professional astronomers throughout the world. If anything really significant occurred, it would burn through the Internet like wildfire. The media would eat it up.

Gossip, especially if it's accurate, moves quickly through the public. That why claims on GLP about mysterious planets and strange alignments aren't worth shit. People who think otherwise are the ones most likely to fall for chain emails that say "I won a lot of money but in order to get it I need your help. Please go to my bank account in Africa and...."
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I'm with you on this one Astro. We all live here and all have a basic understanding of these things. I just don't understand why some people don't understand anything.

I would say go back to school and re-learn what they tried to teach you then come back. Common sense comes into play here, to bad non of these people have any..

Go Astro.
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Actually I proved everything with hard empirical data. Thanks.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Astro, any idea about what's up with Astrometry.net? It's been like this since last week [link to nova.astrometry.net]

I was going to run some cutouts from my images but I can't get Astrometry to work.
Jupiter Aug 14th [link to www.flickr.com]
Aug 15th [link to www.flickr.com]
Aug 20th [link to www.flickr.com]

Nice work BTW.
 Quoting: TBar1984


Thanks! I don't know what their problem is. They occasionally have server issues, which is one of the main reasons why I run their software on my own machine. I'll give your images a whirl if you want, do you want the WCS embedded fits file or just the coordinates of the center point of the image?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I was going to cutout the parts around Jupiter and compare them. I've found that the entire image is way too big for the Web Server, you have to use parts of the image, without the trees & clouds.
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Not a problem, I've started running the full images. It won't time out with my copy. Theirs is set to time out after 10 minutes, which isn't enough on really big images like this, particularly when there are lots of distractors. I'll check back in on the program later this evening and send you the results. PM me an email address to my youtube account.
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Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
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Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
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Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
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Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing

Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
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That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
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Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing

Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


This baby:
lx200upgrdtest
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
on a related note, the chinese national space administration held a press conference to announce an unprecedented manned mission to the surface of the sun. shocked reporters asked the most obvious question, "how will the astronauts survive the intense heat?" chinese officials responded that they were planning a night landing...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

This post may go down in GLP history as being the funniest ever made.

Thanks, Edge Rider!
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The theories stated in the firs vid were debunked much more eloquently and succinctly by the first comment i read at you tube. Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?
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In other words, you lack the ability or willingness to assess the information being offered, so you question the motives of the poster. How droll.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


not the motives, I already know the answers to the question of why the orbit is different. I read it on you tube in 1 or 2 paragraphs written by someone seemingly far more intelligent.sadly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099505

Yes, they explained it as well (and again, the orbit is NOT different), in fact they gave the same explanation I gave in my video in my original post, they just didn't go into as much detail as I did. I'll take that as a compliment from you then, thanks!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


cool! ..but why bother to reiterate here and blow time? ..seems insignificant. Maybe you are too nice! sorry for the assault!! Thank you for taking time to logically debunk crap spewed here though!
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Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing

Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


This baby:
:lx200upgrdtest:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


SO SEXY beauty
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Of course they're assumptions. The math is science, created by the human kind, but the reality does not start with the human race!
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Then you should be able to show where the calculations could be wrong, right? Unless you are just playing the insipid and childish "nothing is for sure" card. Humankind would have never built anything if it had subscribed to your paranoid outlook of: "OH NO... STOP... WE CAN'T BE SURE OF ANYTHING!!!"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And your card is the good old sarcasm?
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Seemed entirely appropriate.

I can't see any creativity in that card.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Wasn't meant to be "creative". It was meant to make a point.

You love to foul yourself, that's fine, but no need to foul the rest. The calculations are wrong as an idea for understanding the universe.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


But you can't show where they are wrong, right? Right. yawn

Nobody can understand the universe that way. That's all i have to say.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Funny how we just landed a rover on Mars using calculations that, according to you, aren't useful.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

You are asking where they are wrong?
Here's why.
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
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Is that what your lovely NASA teaches you?
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
on a related note, the chinese national space administration held a press conference to announce an unprecedented manned mission to the surface of the sun. shocked reporters asked the most obvious question, "how will the astronauts survive the intense heat?" chinese officials responded that they were planning a night landing...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

This post may go down in GLP history as being the funniest ever made.

Thanks, Edge Rider!
 Quoting: Miggy


Seems plausible chuckle
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
Astro, I think this may have gotten lost in the older pages, but that's an excellent shot of Jupiter you have. What kind of equipment do you use?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing

Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


This baby:
lx200upgrdtest
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so badass. Is it a 12?

I've had a 8' dobsonian mount for a few years now and I wanna upgrade to something with a camera, and obviously much bigger. I got a decent set of celestron eyepieces recently, but it didn't give me too much of a difference with the wide field lenses. It's hard being on a tight budget, but I've been saving. What would you recommend for a 12' and a camera?

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Already censored. That's a good start.:)
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So according to this video that's been going viral lately, Jupiter is "off."


I compared the position of Jupiter in the SOHO images from the time periods covered by the above youtube video to the predicted position of Jupiter based on ephemeris that were originally generated in 1890 by George Hill. It's position is normal, even though I'm comparing it to data that originates over 120 years ago (in other words, no way it's part of some "NASA cover-up").

I didn't bother accounting for the position of SOHO in this case. I could squeeze a little more accuracy out of it if I did that, but I don't think it's necessary in this case (it would also require importing SOHO's orbital data uniquely for each observation epoch). It was enough work to convert and import the old ephemeris into modern software. Rather than try to modify the VSOP87 algorithms, I simply imported mean Keplerian elements for Jupiter at each observation epoch (derived from the original Hill data) into Celestia. ORSA was used to propagate the data to each observation epoch.

I made a gif animation showing the various comparisons. It starts with a simple 3 frame comparison similar to what the youtube video showed (one image from 2000, one from 2007, and one from 2012). I then compared this to the ephemeris data using celestia, registering each image based on the stars (effectively doing astrometry by hand). As you can see, Jupiter's where it should be in the image, even according to 19th century data.

[link to img705.imageshack.us]

I also did a direct measurement of Jupiter's position in a video you may have seen before, and indeed it's perfectly normal to within at least 1.69 arcseconds (far high resolution than what you can see in the SOHO images).


 Quoting: Dr. Astro

In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
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Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
[link to www.itelescope.net]
It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


This baby:
lx200upgrdtest
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so badass. Is it a 12?

I've had a 8' dobsonian mount for a few years now and I wanna upgrade to something with a camera, and obviously much bigger. I got a decent set of celestron eyepieces recently, but it didn't give me too much of a difference with the wide field lenses. It's hard being on a tight budget, but I've been saving. What would you recommend for a 12' and a camera?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Astronomy is a expensive ass hobby. Even a used 12" lx200 will cost ya 3 grand at minimum.
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So according to this video that's been going viral lately, Jupiter is "off."


I compared the position of Jupiter in the SOHO images from the time periods covered by the above youtube video to the predicted position of Jupiter based on ephemeris that were originally generated in 1890 by George Hill. It's position is normal, even though I'm comparing it to data that originates over 120 years ago (in other words, no way it's part of some "NASA cover-up").

I didn't bother accounting for the position of SOHO in this case. I could squeeze a little more accuracy out of it if I did that, but I don't think it's necessary in this case (it would also require importing SOHO's orbital data uniquely for each observation epoch). It was enough work to convert and import the old ephemeris into modern software. Rather than try to modify the VSOP87 algorithms, I simply imported mean Keplerian elements for Jupiter at each observation epoch (derived from the original Hill data) into Celestia. ORSA was used to propagate the data to each observation epoch.

I made a gif animation showing the various comparisons. It starts with a simple 3 frame comparison similar to what the youtube video showed (one image from 2000, one from 2007, and one from 2012). I then compared this to the ephemeris data using celestia, registering each image based on the stars (effectively doing astrometry by hand). As you can see, Jupiter's where it should be in the image, even according to 19th century data.

[link to img705.imageshack.us]

I also did a direct measurement of Jupiter's position in a video you may have seen before, and indeed it's perfectly normal to within at least 1.69 arcseconds (far high resolution than what you can see in the SOHO images).


 Quoting: Dr. Astro

In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


I nominate this for ignorant post of the month.
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Then you should be able to show where the calculations could be wrong, right? Unless you are just playing the insipid and childish "nothing is for sure" card. Humankind would have never built anything if it had subscribed to your paranoid outlook of: "OH NO... STOP... WE CAN'T BE SURE OF ANYTHING!!!"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And your card is the good old sarcasm?
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Seemed entirely appropriate.

I can't see any creativity in that card.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Wasn't meant to be "creative". It was meant to make a point.

You love to foul yourself, that's fine, but no need to foul the rest. The calculations are wrong as an idea for understanding the universe.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


But you can't show where they are wrong, right? Right. yawn

Nobody can understand the universe that way. That's all i have to say.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Funny how we just landed a rover on Mars using calculations that, according to you, aren't useful.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

You are asking where they are wrong?
Here's why.
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]
[link to www.dont_use_this]




Is that what your lovely NASA teaches you?
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This is a waste of time. yawn
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Yes, I know, but I tried anyway. Wish you good luck!
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
on a related note, the chinese national space administration held a press conference to announce an unprecedented manned mission to the surface of the sun. shocked reporters asked the most obvious question, "how will the astronauts survive the intense heat?" chinese officials responded that they were planning a night landing...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

This post may go down in GLP history as being the funniest ever made.

Thanks, Edge Rider!
 Quoting: Miggy


I guess that would depend on your IQ and your sense of humor or lack thereof, I found the "joke" stupid, racist and suggesting the exact opposite of reality. The average Chinese is much smarter and better educated than you are.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
So according to this video that's been going viral lately, Jupiter is "off."


I compared the position of Jupiter in the SOHO images from the time periods covered by the above youtube video to the predicted position of Jupiter based on ephemeris that were originally generated in 1890 by George Hill. It's position is normal, even though I'm comparing it to data that originates over 120 years ago (in other words, no way it's part of some "NASA cover-up").

I didn't bother accounting for the position of SOHO in this case. I could squeeze a little more accuracy out of it if I did that, but I don't think it's necessary in this case (it would also require importing SOHO's orbital data uniquely for each observation epoch). It was enough work to convert and import the old ephemeris into modern software. Rather than try to modify the VSOP87 algorithms, I simply imported mean Keplerian elements for Jupiter at each observation epoch (derived from the original Hill data) into Celestia. ORSA was used to propagate the data to each observation epoch.

I made a gif animation showing the various comparisons. It starts with a simple 3 frame comparison similar to what the youtube video showed (one image from 2000, one from 2007, and one from 2012). I then compared this to the ephemeris data using celestia, registering each image based on the stars (effectively doing astrometry by hand). As you can see, Jupiter's where it should be in the image, even according to 19th century data.

[link to img705.imageshack.us]

I also did a direct measurement of Jupiter's position in a video you may have seen before, and indeed it's perfectly normal to within at least 1.69 arcseconds (far high resolution than what you can see in the SOHO images).


 Quoting: Dr. Astro

In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


I nominate this for ignorant post of the month.
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Who cares, bag boy? You you wash his balls after every hole?
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So according to this video that's been going viral lately, Jupiter is "off."


I compared the position of Jupiter in the SOHO images from the time periods covered by the above youtube video to the predicted position of Jupiter based on ephemeris that were originally generated in 1890 by George Hill. It's position is normal, even though I'm comparing it to data that originates over 120 years ago (in other words, no way it's part of some "NASA cover-up").

I didn't bother accounting for the position of SOHO in this case. I could squeeze a little more accuracy out of it if I did that, but I don't think it's necessary in this case (it would also require importing SOHO's orbital data uniquely for each observation epoch). It was enough work to convert and import the old ephemeris into modern software. Rather than try to modify the VSOP87 algorithms, I simply imported mean Keplerian elements for Jupiter at each observation epoch (derived from the original Hill data) into Celestia. ORSA was used to propagate the data to each observation epoch.

I made a gif animation showing the various comparisons. It starts with a simple 3 frame comparison similar to what the youtube video showed (one image from 2000, one from 2007, and one from 2012). I then compared this to the ephemeris data using celestia, registering each image based on the stars (effectively doing astrometry by hand). As you can see, Jupiter's where it should be in the image, even according to 19th century data.

[link to img705.imageshack.us]

I also did a direct measurement of Jupiter's position in a video you may have seen before, and indeed it's perfectly normal to within at least 1.69 arcseconds (far high resolution than what you can see in the SOHO images).


 Quoting: Dr. Astro

In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


I nominate this for ignorant post of the month.
 Quoting: DaNose

Jupiter's orbit is changing constantly as it cycles, as it should be.
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Astronomy is a expensive ass hobby. Even a used 12" lx200 will cost ya 3 grand at minimum.
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Yeah, I know that, I just wanted some thoughts on which to pick since I don't really want to spend five grand on a system that sucks, ya know?
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I am not getting the joke, astromut why bother?
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
So according to this video that's been going viral lately, Jupiter is "off."


I compared the position of Jupiter in the SOHO images from the time periods covered by the above youtube video to the predicted position of Jupiter based on ephemeris that were originally generated in 1890 by George Hill. It's position is normal, even though I'm comparing it to data that originates over 120 years ago (in other words, no way it's part of some "NASA cover-up").

I didn't bother accounting for the position of SOHO in this case. I could squeeze a little more accuracy out of it if I did that, but I don't think it's necessary in this case (it would also require importing SOHO's orbital data uniquely for each observation epoch). It was enough work to convert and import the old ephemeris into modern software. Rather than try to modify the VSOP87 algorithms, I simply imported mean Keplerian elements for Jupiter at each observation epoch (derived from the original Hill data) into Celestia. ORSA was used to propagate the data to each observation epoch.

I made a gif animation showing the various comparisons. It starts with a simple 3 frame comparison similar to what the youtube video showed (one image from 2000, one from 2007, and one from 2012). I then compared this to the ephemeris data using celestia, registering each image based on the stars (effectively doing astrometry by hand). As you can see, Jupiter's where it should be in the image, even according to 19th century data.

[link to img705.imageshack.us]

I also did a direct measurement of Jupiter's position in a video you may have seen before, and indeed it's perfectly normal to within at least 1.69 arcseconds (far high resolution than what you can see in the SOHO images).


 Quoting: Dr. Astro

In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


I nominate this for ignorant post of the month.
 Quoting: DaNose

Jupiter's orbit is changing constantly as it cycles, as it should be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099505


This is true, but that's not the question here. The question is whether or not it's "out of place," in other words changing in some abnormal manner being driven by an unseen perturber. The normal changes to Jupiter's orbit over time are too subtle to notice in the very widefield SOHO images seen here over only about a single orbit.
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It's in fact pretty interesting that there are no satellite maps (available to public) either of Arctic or Antarctic.
Well except those funny digital or either side shot photos

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on a related note, the chinese national space administration held a press conference to announce an unprecedented manned mission to the surface of the sun. shocked reporters asked the most obvious question, "how will the astronauts survive the intense heat?" chinese officials responded that they were planning a night landing...
 Quoting: Edge Rider



1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

This post may go down in GLP history as being the funniest ever made.

Thanks, Edge Rider!
 Quoting: Miggy


I guess that would depend on your IQ and your sense of humor or lack thereof, I found the "joke" stupid, racist and suggesting the exact opposite of reality. The average Chinese is much smarter and better educated than you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


lol agreed!! Still a funny joke! ..for some reason even funnier with Chinese, maybe 'cause its cute and silly. but totally inappropriate! geez!
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
Everybody is LOOKING FOR ANSWERS. WHY has everything been swinging madly about. The WEATHER especially. That being said do you have an OPIONION on why this is taking place ASTRO? Lets hear it !!!.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
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That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


This baby:
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 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so badass. Is it a 12?

I've had a 8' dobsonian mount for a few years now and I wanna upgrade to something with a camera, and obviously much bigger. I got a decent set of celestron eyepieces recently, but it didn't give me too much of a difference with the wide field lenses. It's hard being on a tight budget, but I've been saving. What would you recommend for a 12' and a camera?
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Astronomy is a expensive ass hobby. Even a used 12" lx200 will cost ya 3 grand at minimum.
 Quoting: DaNose



^This.

And the other one he used here [link to www.itelescope.net] ....that shit cost $11,400 for the telescope, $6000 for the camera, $14,500 for the mount.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov

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