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Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."

 
Serenity777

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Your condition is known as "NORMALCY BIAS". A form of denial.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Is it similar to the denial you live with regarding "Planet X"? Or are you just delusional?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Its going to be funny when EVERYONE finds out how delusional that they've been regarding nearly EVERYTHING.

Everyone is so sure of themselves...so FULL of themselves. If you think you've got the entire truth locked down, you're probably mistaken. And I can tell you this...whether its Nibiru, Jupiter, a magnetic pole reversal, or just Universal Space Weather...SOMETHING IS MESSING THINGS UP and it doesn't take a GENIUS to see it.

What many of you call "Perfectly Normal," with a sarcastic grin of surety, is something that THIS CIVILIZATION has never seen before. We just experienced RECORD HEAT this summer which was coupled with massive floodings and droughts on a wide scale. The food supply has been HIT. There are multiple states on fire, and additionally...WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR. Yet, you play your childish little games by constantly playing in the land of denial as the world literally BURNS TO THE GROUND IN FRONT OF US ALL. As much as you play the "Normal Card," I can tell you now, even CHILDREN seem to know intuitively that "something is up." However, I won't PRETEND to be wise enough to fully explain what that "something" is.

And then we have those who are FULL OUT sell-outs to the opposite side of the equation. Everything has just GOT TO BE the worst case scenario. -Yep, any fluctuation in the atmosphere is Nibiru with giant lizards that are hell-bent in eating you and selling your clothes to good-will without your knowledge. scratching (I hope I got that right.)

Anyway...Don't presume to be experts in either direction. The sheer nature of this places LIES to you and might very well just use your own WORST FEARS to break you down.

For instance, its quite possible that the Universe is sentient enough to simply bring the world to an end by your own individual vices...think something this, "Donnie Darko meets Cabin in the Woods"
1. Each person experiences their own world ending via CATACLYSM of their choice, to the point where all of these individual worlds and imaginations colliding brings fourth an epic production unlike EVER WITNESSED BEFORE. (Singularity).

-So, for the guy who is a Nibiru buff...guess what comes in and ends his world?
-For the guy who always sees reptiles...guess what manifests on that moment of truth?
-For the person who lives the "Vampires" tale...guess what comes to bring the pain?
-For those who LOVE zombie movies...
-For those who live the painful world of the "NORMAL" (Yeah...trust me, normalcy can be quite MADDENING when it appears to go on FOREVER, and NEVER CHANGES.)

-------You might just VERY WELL be the END OF YOURSELVES.-------

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 08/21/2012 11:54 AM
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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WHAT!? gasp

So, if I have this right, Astromut is telling us that Jupiter is off course because of a tenth planet or something big pulling/pushing it into Saturn and that is what's going to happen to Earth and Venus NEXT!???scared

I will be paying close attention to these developments, Thank you Astromut!!!
clappa
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Again, I debunked the first video, or did you not read the post?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


The theories stated in the firs vid were debunked much more eloquently and succinctly by the first comment i read at you tube. Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?
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Dr Astro,

I take this chance to say a big thank you for all the hard work you put in on this site in the face of near constant abuse you receive.

Being called a 'Shill' for being educated and thoughtful on a subject seems to be a theme on this forum these days...if you ain't towing the 'Doom' line, you're the enemy...I hope it doesn't deter you in the future.

Can I put a couple of Nemesis questions to you, regardless, as I would prefer your opinion, and those also in the know on here, to some whiney youtubers...

1. Missing mass: The solar systems missing mass, does it equate to the mass of a dwarf star?

2. Oort Cloud activity: I read a MIT paper posted on here a year or two back describing the re-entry of our suns hypothesised still born sister (Nemesis) through the Oort and it triggering a frenzy of comet activity...has this occurred?

3. Jupiter got its name for a reason: Through my hobby of star-gazing and reading sci-fi I have come to a conclusion that a brown dwarf would be roughly of similar size to Jupiter and, although of greater mass, it would have little effect on its orbit until proximity...due to the gas giants gravitational lock/ relation with the sun...is this true?

4. I have seen numerous posts (not just on here) regarding the orbital shift of the outermost two planets, increases in atmospheric temps (up by 3 degrees some claim!) in the outer planets and tilts in axis in all major astral bodies from Earth outward, all around 5 degrees...where is this info coming from? Is it valid?

Cheers for your time.
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WHAT!? gasp

So, if I have this right, Astromut is telling us that Jupiter is off course because of a tenth planet or something big pulling/pushing it into Saturn and that is what's going to happen to Earth and Venus NEXT!???scared

I will be paying close attention to these developments, Thank you Astromut!!!
clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21588991

Again, I debunked the first video, or did you not read the post?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


The theories stated in the firs vid were debunked much more eloquently and succinctly by the first comment i read at you tube. Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099505


>> Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?

It worries ME as well ...

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yes- it is not off.
the sun and moon keep their appointed paths.

those seekers of astronomic or even astrologic wisdom should learn the two stations of the cross:
solstice
equinox

here be a mighty mystery capable of penetration by a cabbage
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22266666


Your condition is known as "NORMALCY BIAS". A form of denial.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


2 Peter 3:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
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I disagree, my natural inclination is to call you a name but today I just don't have the energy
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I dont care about the rest but you evidently had not measured sun path lately .....
I recomend you to do so ...

else....gives
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
what a bunch of ingrates, Astro has proven time and time again that there is no Nibiru.

Which means its all been one big Hoax or just irrational fears.

Doom off!

This is great news!!

now get a life & maybe start enjoying 'real' science.


thanks for your time Astro :) appreciated
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21302847



Some believe in nibiru due to ancient texts that have been passed down.

Astro shoots their BELIEFS down with science.



Astro BELIEVES in a god due to ancient texts that have been passed down.

Yet his science doesn't effect his BELIEF system.




So why the hell would anyone take any notice of his OPINIONS?






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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
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The theories stated in the firs vid were debunked much more eloquently and succinctly by the first comment i read at you tube. Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099505


In other words, you lack the ability or willingness to assess the information being offered, so you question the motives of the poster. How droll.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Well, name a hotter month than august! It has always been the hottest, not just now.
what a bunch of ingrates, Astro has proven time and time again that there is no Nibiru.

Which means its all been one big Hoax or just irrational fears.

Doom off!

This is great news!!

now get a life & maybe start enjoying 'real' science.


thanks for your time Astro :) appreciated
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21302847


Nothing proven here. Just assumptions and calculations, based on...assumptions and calculations, but NOT FACTS! And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question above.
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No telling really ..

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NASA? The ephemeris didn't come from them and even my own observations confirm that Jupiter is where it should be, so yes, it's quite easy to tell.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Where did you get the idea that your observations or opinions matter to glp? (maybe to one or 2 people... but not the collective forum).
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if you ain't towing the 'Doom' line, you're the enemy...


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Um... the expression is "TOEING" the line, not "TOWING" the line.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


how exactly is it meaningless that, in a year where hundreds of record highs have been recorded, the month that typically records the hottest temps of the year, August, is experiencing record lows?
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So if Jupiter's orbit isn't off then ours must be. But something surely isn't right.

Why did the sun rise two days early in Greenland? Can you explain that.

And, if you can tell oribits of planets so very well and can see all in the sky, WHAT ARE THE COORDINATES OF THE PLANET WHICH WAS FOUND BEHIND NEPTUNE?

WHICH WAS REPORTED ON ALOMST ALL MAJOR NEWS STATIONS.

Shouldn't be hard to tell us these things with all your expertise.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


we also had the record high temps for august.
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WHAT!? gasp

So, if I have this right, Astromut is telling us that Jupiter is off course because of a tenth planet or something big pulling/pushing it into Saturn and that is what's going to happen to Earth and Venus NEXT!???scared

I will be paying close attention to these developments, Thank you Astromut!!!
clappa
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Again, I debunked the first video, or did you not read the post?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh, yes I see that, where you said it may be the Earth is off orbit too right?

So now you're saying that the Moon is off orbit also?

This shit is getting scary!!!

When is this all supposed to take place?

Again, Thank you very much Astromut!!!

rockonrockonrockonrockonrockon
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siren2siren2siren2siren2

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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


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Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Well, name a hotter month than august! It has always been the hottest, not just now.
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Gawd. Try reading what I said again. It doesn't MATTER that August is the hottest month. The "record cold" wasn't for the year- it was for a specific date in August. Get it? Probably not.

Nothing proven here. Just assumptions and calculations, based on...assumptions and calculations, but NOT FACTS! And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question above.
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What? Calculations are not facts? Since when? Please describe what you think of as "facts".
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OP your a moron.

and your thread is.....




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No telling really ..

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NASA? The ephemeris didn't come from them and even my own observations confirm that Jupiter is where it should be, so yes, it's quite easy to tell.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Where did you get the idea that your observations or opinions matter to glp? (maybe to one or 2 people... but not the collective forum).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1625576


One or two? Dream on. MANY people appreciate what Astro does here, including the OWNER of this site.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


how exactly is it meaningless that, in a year where hundreds of record highs have been recorded, the month that typically records the hottest temps of the year, August, is experiencing record lows?
 Quoting: John Everytard


Because the "record low" is for a specific date in AUGUST, not for the year! It is meaningless whether August is normally hotter or colder than other months. I guess this is why hysterics rule- too many people don't understand what is significant and what is not.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


 Quoting: Serenity777


Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Well, name a hotter month than august! It has always been the hottest, not just now.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬



Gawd. Try reading what I said again. It doesn't MATTER that August is the hottest month. The "record cold" wasn't for the year- it was for a specific date in August. Get it? Probably not.

Nothing proven here. Just assumptions and calculations, based on...assumptions and calculations, but NOT FACTS! And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question above.
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What? Calculations are not facts? Since when? Please describe what you think of as "facts".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I'm answering to you just now. That's a fact.
You think that I'm typing on a keyboard, probably. That's an assumption, but how can you be sure about that?
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Good stuff astro.
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WE JUST EXPERIENCED RECORD LOWS in August, which is typically the HOTTEST MONTH OF THE YEAR.


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Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


we also had the record high temps for august.
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And? That has nothing to do with my specific observation.
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Re: Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."
yes- it is not off.
the sun and moon keep their appointed paths.

those seekers of astronomic or even astrologic wisdom should learn the two stations of the cross:
solstice
equinox

here be a mighty mystery capable of penetration by a cabbage
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22266666


Your condition is known as "NORMALCY BIAS". A form of denial.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


2 Peter 3:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
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OP your a moron.

and your thread is.....




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it is "You're a moron or You are a moron" ..............

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No telling really ..

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NASA? The ephemeris didn't come from them and even my own observations confirm that Jupiter is where it should be, so yes, it's quite easy to tell.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Where did you get the idea that your observations or opinions matter to glp? (maybe to one or 2 people... but not the collective forum).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1625576


One or two? Dream on. MANY people appreciate what Astro does here, including the OWNER of this site.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


lol
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So if Jupiter's orbit isn't off then ours must be. But something surely isn't right.

Why did the sun rise two days early in Greenland? Can you explain that.
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Novaya Zemlya effect

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And, if you can tell oribits of planets so very well and can see all in the sky, WHAT ARE THE COORDINATES OF THE PLANET WHICH WAS FOUND BEHIND NEPTUNE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22350611


No such planet was found. It's hokum. Why don't you ask the people who say it exists for the coordinates?

WHICH WAS REPORTED ON ALOMST ALL MAJOR NEWS STATIONS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22350611


No, it wasn't.

Shouldn't be hard to tell us these things with all your expertise.
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No, it shouldn't be, and already has been. It doesn't matter how many times nonsense like this is debunked. It just gets repeated over and over and over and over again by ignorant, rumor-mongering people like you.
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Shhhhhh.. - Everyone attention please-

I just heard through the grapevine, That scooby Doo just schooled Dr. Astro.

Thread: "MUST SEE" Planet X - On Scooby Doo Show !!!


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Good example of hysterical and irrational assessment of reality. The record lows were FOR AUGUST, not for the year. It is meaningless that August is the hottest month of the year, but you hysterically focus on that as if it is significant.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Well, name a hotter month than august! It has always been the hottest, not just now.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬



Gawd. Try reading what I said again. It doesn't MATTER that August is the hottest month. The "record cold" wasn't for the year- it was for a specific date in August. Get it? Probably not.

Nothing proven here. Just assumptions and calculations, based on...assumptions and calculations, but NOT FACTS! And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question above.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


What? Calculations are not facts? Since when? Please describe what you think of as "facts".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I'm answering to you just now. That's a fact.
You think that I'm typing on a keyboard, probably. That's an assumption, but how can you be sure about that?
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


So calculations are "assumptions", and not facts? Just because you don't understand the calculations, that doesn't mean they aren't factual.
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The theories stated in the firs vid were debunked much more eloquently and succinctly by the first comment i read at you tube. Are you really a doctor? This worries me.. if so how do you have time for this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19099505


In other words, you lack the ability or willingness to assess the information being offered, so you question the motives of the poster. How droll.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


not the motives, I already know the answers to the question of why the orbit is different. I read it on you tube in 1 or 2 paragraphs written by someone seemingly far more intelligent.sadly.





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