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Jupiter's Orbit is NOT "Off."

 
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Ah yes, meant to get to that one. It was shot with the T16 telescope in Spain:
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It's my lucky telescope for when the weather isn't playing nice here in Florida.
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That's so awesome. What do you use in Florida?
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This baby:
lx200upgrdtest
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


That's so badass. Is it a 12?

I've had a 8' dobsonian mount for a few years now and I wanna upgrade to something with a camera, and obviously much bigger. I got a decent set of celestron eyepieces recently, but it didn't give me too much of a difference with the wide field lenses. It's hard being on a tight budget, but I've been saving. What would you recommend for a 12' and a camera?
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8" LX200. You might be surprised to learn that I'm actually happier with it than I would be a 12" - the classic LX200's all had the same mount systems from 8"-12" (the 16" was a horse of a different color). This meant the 12" had the least amount of spare payload capacity. The 8" leaves me with a generous amount of excess payload capacity I can use to slap on as many extra cameras/scopes as I want without even approaching the mount's carrying limit. If you want to get into astrophotography or videography (I HIGHLY recommend astrovideo with a mallincam) you want to give your mount an easy time; it'll make life easier for you. I'd recommend getting a 10" celestron schmidt-cassegrain (or heck, maybe a 12" if your heart is set on it) on a CGE pro with a hyperstar system (or whatever celestron calls its equivalent) and a mallincam. That will change your viewing experience forever and give you the ability to swap between widefield and closeup all with the same scope.

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You have an Opinion don't you. Are you just going to Ignore the question.
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Everybody is LOOKING FOR ANSWERS. WHY has everything been swinging madly about.
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Everything? Why not be specific? You mean like the sunrise/set?
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In other words Jupiter's orbit is out of place.


How goes, .gov shillboy? When are you idiots going to figure out that when you 'debunk' what appears to be a questionable story you prove it is true? Oh and BTW, FUCK OFF
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I nominate this for ignorant post of the month.
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Jupiter's orbit is changing constantly as it cycles, as it should be.
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This is true, but that's not the question here. The question is whether or not it's "out of place," in other words changing in some abnormal manner being driven by an unseen perturber. The normal changes to Jupiter's orbit over time are too subtle to notice in the very widefield SOHO images seen here over only about a single orbit.
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So compared to its orbit a few years ago its a 'lil different 'cause it changes slowly as it cycles but is not acting abnormally 'cause there is no nibiru!! Right?
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You have an Opinion don't you. Are you just going to Ignore the question.
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Oh its you now. To the rescue. This is for Astro. My question about your opionion was directed to the weather. So what say you ASTRO. I wasn't asking for your's Menow. I want ASTRO to voice his opionion. So just say out of it for the time being.
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You have an Opinion don't you. Are you just going to Ignore the question.
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Oh its you now. To the rescue. This is for Astro. My question about your opionion was directed to the weather. So what say you ASTRO. I wasn't asking for your's Menow. I want ASTRO to voice his opionion. So just say out of it for the time being.
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I'm sure you do want that, and maybe you'll get it, but your question is absurd on its face. It's yet one more inane shotgunning of vague innuendo.

"Everybody is LOOKING FOR ANSWERS. WHY has everything been swinging madly about."

WTF does that even mean?
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Ok. I can see your going to play games. I will be very specific then. What in your opionion is causing the drought in the USA.
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Doc Astro,

You stated in your thread from yesterday that we are north of the galactic plane and there is no alignment with galactic center in 2012. Do you deny that there is an alignment between earth, sun and center of our galaxy from a visual perspective on the upcpming winter solstice which only happens once every 25k years or so?

Not saying this means anything in particular but I understand it to be true. Please comment and thank you.
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Doc Astro,

You stated in your thread from yesterday that we are north of the galactic plane and there is no alignment with galactic center in 2012. Do you deny that there is an alignment between earth, sun and center of our galaxy from a visual perspective on the upcpming winter solstice which only happens once every 25k years or so?

Not saying this means anything in particular but I understand it to be true. Please comment and thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6969403


There is an apparent or visual alignment between earth the sun and the galactic plane (not quite the center though) this winter solstice. It is not unique to this year, however. It has happened every winter solstice since the 90's and will keep happening for a few more years.
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8" LX200. You might be surprised to learn that I'm actually happier with it than I would be a 12" - the classic LX200's all had the same mount systems from 8"-12" (the 16" was a horse of a different color). This meant the 12" had the least amount of spare payload capacity. The 8" leaves me with a generous amount of excess payload capacity I can use to slap on as many extra cameras/scopes as I want without even approaching the mount's carrying limit. If you want to get into astrophotography or videography (I HIGHLY recommend astrovideo with a mallincam) you want to give your mount an easy time; it'll make life easier for you. I'd recommend getting a 10" celestron schmidt-cassegrain (or heck, maybe a 12" if your heart is set on it) on a CGE pro with a hyperstar system (or whatever celestron calls its equivalent) and a mallincam. That will change your viewing experience forever and give you the ability to swap between widefield and closeup all with the same scope.
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Thank you, that's all very helpful. I definitely want to get into trying to take pictures and/or video with my scope. I can't pm with my account, so sorry for the threadjack, but this stuff is so much more helpful than website adverts.

Edit: Also, I don't entirely have my heart set on a 12, it's just I don't seem to get much with my eight inch as far as deep space objects, which is kinda disappointing. Granted however, I was 18 and could only afford a Skywatcher. I know, lol.

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Doc Astro,

You stated in your thread from yesterday that we are north of the galactic plane and there is no alignment with galactic center in 2012. Do you deny that there is an alignment between earth, sun and center of our galaxy from a visual perspective on the upcpming winter solstice which only happens once every 25k years or so?

Not saying this means anything in particular but I understand it to be true. Please comment and thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6969403


There is an apparent or visual alignment between earth the sun and the galactic plane (not quite the center though) this winter solstice. It is not unique to this year, however. It has happened every winter solstice since the 90's and will keep happening for a few more years.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


There is an APPARENT WHAT, Its more then just apparent dude. Nasa is up there like sitting ducks with special equipment Watching this unfold. Was in the news. WE the people in RECORDED HISTORY have never seen this happen before. What a bullshit answer. Apparent. That is so you.
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Doc Astro,

You stated in your thread from yesterday that we are north of the galactic plane and there is no alignment with galactic center in 2012. Do you deny that there is an alignment between earth, sun and center of our galaxy from a visual perspective on the upcpming winter solstice which only happens once every 25k years or so?

Not saying this means anything in particular but I understand it to be true. Please comment and thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6969403


There is an apparent or visual alignment between earth the sun and the galactic plane (not quite the center though) this winter solstice. It is not unique to this year, however. It has happened every winter solstice since the 90's and will keep happening for a few more years.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


There is an APPARENT WHAT, Its more then just apparent dude. Nasa is up there like sitting ducks with special equipment Watching this unfold. Was in the news. WE the people in RECORDED HISTORY have never seen this happen before. What a bullshit answer. Apparent. That is so you.
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Doc Astro,

You stated in your thread from yesterday that we are north of the galactic plane and there is no alignment with galactic center in 2012. Do you deny that there is an alignment between earth, sun and center of our galaxy from a visual perspective on the upcpming winter solstice which only happens once every 25k years or so?

Not saying this means anything in particular but I understand it to be true. Please comment and thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6969403


There is an apparent or visual alignment between earth the sun and the galactic plane (not quite the center though) this winter solstice. It is not unique to this year, however. It has happened every winter solstice since the 90's and will keep happening for a few more years.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


There is an APPARENT WHAT, Its more then just apparent dude. Nasa is up there like sitting ducks with special equipment Watching this unfold. Was in the news. WE the people in RECORDED HISTORY have never seen this happen before. What a bullshit answer. Apparent. That is so you.
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You're wrong.

The problem is the galactic plane is very wide. IT takes the solar system decades to move through it. We have been moving through it since the 90s, and will keep on for a few more years.

The Winter solstice is just the point where the Sun is in between us and it, which happens every year as the earth revolves around it.
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I guess that would depend on your IQ and your sense of humor or lack thereof, I found the "joke" stupid, racist and suggesting the exact opposite of reality. The average Chinese is much smarter and better educated than you are.
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Yes. The average Chinese IS much smarter and better educated than WE are.

That's what made the joke so funny.
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wouldnt there be an "apparent" alignment of the sun and earth with galactic center 2 times per year, every year, forever and ever?
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You have an Opinion don't you. Are you just going to Ignore the question.
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Oh its you now. To the rescue. This is for Astro. My question about your opionion was directed to the weather. So what say you ASTRO. I wasn't asking for your's Menow. I want ASTRO to voice his opionion. So just say out of it for the time being.
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You seem to have an opionion on everything else. What is your opionion on the cause or causes of the US drought. I'd really like to know?
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Take a look at this Spacedog
Nibiru Found, Binary Star System Explained

Brown dwarf star is locked in a binary orbit with our sun

Might be why earths ecliptic is off

[link to www.youtube.com]
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You seem to have an opionion on everything else. What is your opionion on the cause or causes of the US drought. I'd really like to know?
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AC, I'll answer. There is no drought. It's simply not possible.

Everything is normal. Perfectly, naturally normal.
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Ok. I can see your going to play games. I will be very specific then. What in your opionion is causing the drought in the USA.
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My opinion? I have no idea. There have been droughts come and go since before there were Humans on the planet to endure them. It certainly isn't being caused by a no-mass planet hiding somewhere in the solar system.
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You seem to have an opionion on everything else. What is your opionion on the cause or causes of the US drought. I'd really like to know?
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AC, I'll answer. There is no drought. It's simply not possible.

Everything is normal. Perfectly, naturally normal.
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So droughts are abnormal on Earth? Really?
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Take a look at this Spacedog
Nibiru Found, Binary Star System Explained

Brown dwarf star is locked in a binary orbit with our sun

Might be why earths ecliptic is off

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21946868


"...earths ecliptic is off..."

What? According to whom. What does that even mean? Do you even know what the ecliptic *IS*?
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You seem to have an opionion on everything else. What is your opionion on the cause or causes of the US drought. I'd really like to know?
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Not Nibiru. Love, The Space Doctor that no one likes, for no apparent reason!

lol
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AstroBS!
What you try to prove and to who? Why don't you find a decent job and get on with your life? Someone will give you something to do.!!
Instead! You play your dick and when you finish you come here and you play the genius to glpers saying nonsense?

None gives a fuck of what you think? Got it?

Get a life man!!
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thats why on every thread he posts in, theres 20 or so other posters that show up JUST to harass him. clearly people care what he thinks, or he wouldn't be such a well known poster. the only reason some posters don't like him is because he ruins their doom. your probably one of the astro-haters that follow him around, maybe its you who should get a life.
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Take a look at this Spacedog
Nibiru Found, Binary Star System Explained

Brown dwarf star is locked in a binary orbit with our sun

Might be why earths ecliptic is off

[link to www.youtube.com]
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"...earths ecliptic is off..."

What? According to whom. What does that even mean? Do you even know what the ecliptic *IS*?
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The ecliptic is the mean plane of the orbit of Earth-Moon barycenter around the Solar System barycenter.

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Same disproven nonsense, regurgitated for the 45th time.
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thanks OP
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wouldnt there be an "apparent" alignment of the sun and earth with galactic center 2 times per year, every year, forever and ever?
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Absolutely right, it does. The only thing even remotely close to unique about this period in time is just the fact that it happens to occur on the day of the december solstice right now. It's been that way for a number of years now thanks to precession, and it will continue to be that way for a few more years.
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Same disproven nonsense, regurgitated for the 45th time.
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disproved by whom


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Residents of a town on the western coast of Greenland may have seen the sun peek over the horizon 48 hours earlier than its usual arrival on Jan. 13, sparking speculation, and disagreements, over possible causes.
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Take a look at this Spacedog
Nibiru Found, Binary Star System Explained

Brown dwarf star is locked in a binary orbit with our sun

Might be why earths ecliptic is off

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21946868


"...earths ecliptic is off..."

What? According to whom. What does that even mean? Do you even know what the ecliptic *IS*?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


The ecliptic is the mean plane of the orbit of Earth-Moon barycenter around the Solar System barycenter.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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And how is it allegedly "off"?





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