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I Let My 4 Kids Play Outside, On a Sunny Saturday. The Cops Wrote Up a Report

 
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The 10 year old in the story was not unsupervised. She was playing in the vacant lot with older teenage individusls.

Teenagers are left to supervise other younger children for pay all of the time in this country.

It's called babysitting.

Teenagers are old enough to supervise younger children.
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that is fucked up; kids were playing.

when i was a kid, we made working longbows and crossbows, and practiced them in whatever field we fancied.
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I used to do this too. this was about 18 years ago though...
 Quoting: Robin Hood 21931416


When I was a kid on any given summer day we would rove around several adjacent neighborhoods in a pack of 4 or 5 kids on our bikes (sting rays with banana seats).

We'd start in the morning and go from one person's house to the next to the next and so on. One kid had a pool, another had a trampoline, another had the Twister game, I had a garden hose, a Slip and Slide, and grass, someone else had a basketball hoop above their garage, and another's mother would make us koolaid without fail whenever we visited.

When we's get bored we'd just hop back on our bikes and head into one of several expanses of desert that surrounded the neighborhoods and do a little more work on one of our our forts. We'd nail foot boards up the trunk of the biggest mesquite tree or gather old plank boards from the stray garbage here and there and build a seat up in the crux of the tree for a look-out.

At about this time we'd run into the other pack of kids that ran the same neighborhoods and engage in a bit of "I can do whatever you say better than you" talk. Then we'd all hop back on our bikes and try to pedal the fastest up to the Circle K convenience store on the corner to get a red and yellow bullet popsicle, a fugsicle, or a cherry icee. We'd pay with money from our allowance that was earned doing household chores like weeding, babysitting, washing the car, or cutting the grass.

It always felt just great to have ALL DAY to spend with our friends, living large, in the neighborhood.

After all, we didn't HAVE to be home until dinner time which strangely enough was 6 p.m. at everyone's house.

Our parents were never worried about us one bit. When we'd get home, all they wanted to know is what we had ended up doing that day and did we have a good time.

Then, after dinner, more often than not, back we'd go outside to play again with our friends in one person's driveway or carport or the street. We'd play until dusk set in and the streetlights came on (which could be as late as 9:30 or 10:00 p.m.)

WHAT HAPPENED TO CHANGE ALL THAT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411


Wow!! That was so right on it almost made me cry for my own kiddos of this world today. I tell them stories such as these and all they say is " Mom you are sooo lucky, wish we could have lived back then"

Ahhhhh, the good ole days .......:)
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The power of change lies with the people. We CAN give our children the wonderful experiences we had as children IF we all stick together. This is going to be a very difficult thing to accomplish unless we can gain control of our government and the mass media, which will probably require forceful resistance or at least passive resistance from the people to return the control of such institutions as media, government and public schooling to the control of parents, as well as the legislation process which is now controlled entirely by special interests groups who buy and place politicians in office..
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i miss the sound of children playing and laughing. if they get out of line you just say something. we need people back out on the streets. police can stop and ask and then drive away.americans hav become paranoid pussys
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That is so true. I miss the sounds of kids playing, the grown ups laughing in the yard with each other and sometimes having an impromtu BBQ or getogether of some kind. Us kids woul;d love it!!! Cool, our Moms and Dads are going to make it a night past 9PM !! Us kids would play outside, and eat our hot dogs on the lawn, or our new fort as a separate unit from our folks. And all the older kids helped with the younger kids without being asked; we just did what was right. And all the grown ups did the same!!!
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I used to do this too. this was about 18 years ago though...
 Quoting: Robin Hood 21931416


When I was a kid on any given summer day we would rove around several adjacent neighborhoods in a pack of 4 or 5 kids on our bikes (sting rays with banana seats).

We'd start in the morning and go from one person's house to the next to the next and so on. One kid had a pool, another had a trampoline, another had the Twister game, I had a garden hose, a Slip and Slide, and grass, someone else had a basketball hoop above their garage, and another's mother would make us koolaid without fail whenever we visited.

When we's get bored we'd just hop back on our bikes and head into one of several expanses of desert that surrounded the neighborhoods and do a little more work on one of our our forts. We'd nail foot boards up the trunk of the biggest mesquite tree or gather old plank boards from the stray garbage here and there and build a seat up in the crux of the tree for a look-out.

At about this time we'd run into the other pack of kids that ran the same neighborhoods and engage in a bit of "I can do whatever you say better than you" talk. Then we'd all hop back on our bikes and try to pedal the fastest up to the Circle K convenience store on the corner to get a red and yellow bullet popsicle, a fugsicle, or a cherry icee. We'd pay with money from our allowance that was earned doing household chores like weeding, babysitting, washing the car, or cutting the grass.

It always felt just great to have ALL DAY to spend with our friends, living large, in the neighborhood.

After all, we didn't HAVE to be home until dinner time which strangely enough was 6 p.m. at everyone's house.

Our parents were never worried about us one bit. When we'd get home, all they wanted to know is what we had ended up doing that day and did we have a good time.

Then, after dinner, more often than not, back we'd go outside to play again with our friends in one person's driveway or carport or the street. We'd play until dusk set in and the streetlights came on (which could be as late as 9:30 or 10:00 p.m.)

WHAT HAPPENED TO CHANGE ALL THAT?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919411


Wow!! That was so right on it almost made me cry for my own kiddos of this world today. I tell them stories such as these and all they say is " Mom you are sooo lucky, wish we could have lived back then"

Ahhhhh, the good ole days .......:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22398110


The power of change lies with the people. We CAN give our children the wonderful experiences we had as children IF we all stick together. This is going to be a very difficult thing to accomplish unless we can gain control of our government and the mass media, which will probably require forceful resistance or at least passive resistance from the people to return the control of such institutions as media, government and public schooling to the control of parents, as well as the legislation process which is now controlled entirely by special interests groups who buy and place politicians in office..
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


I hear ya' on that!! I am going to show this post to my kiddos and pass the message along, it is interesting all the stories and viewpoints on this thread, very cool indeed !!!
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Cops not cold.

And better that social services takes them from you than a pedo does.
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Idiot canuck fucktard don't you realize that if social services take them the odds are a pedo or worst will get their hands on them? Read the statistics, I know them off the top of my head because I have been personally involved in a friends problems with CPS and had a neighbor that molested a child he adopted through the state right in front of me and they refused to even take my statement.Kids taken by the state from their parents are over twenty times as likely to be sexually abused, ten times as likely to be murdered, 40 times as likely to commit suicide, and are almost always taken in for some ulterior motive like to be used as sexual toys, a cash cow where the foster family tries to make as much profit as possible off the child (some run what can literally be described as puppy farms taking in as many children as possible) and nearly every kid in state care begs to be reunited with their parents.
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Canadian guy was really mean :(

Those are horrible stats and is probably very true. So sad for the kids....:(
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many of the people who enforce all these crazy laws and rules have kids, too. they do what they do for money. money is everything in today's society so we all get what we deserve. only mega-doom will help us to get rid of all that crap. it is our only way to salvation.
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On the evening of June 9, 1995, Morgan Chauntel Nick was kidnapped while playing with friends just yards away from her mother during a little league game in Alma, Arkansas. A massive investigation ensued, and continues, but Morgan Nick remains missing.

[link to www.morgannickfoundation.com]

it is never safe. who would have thought in arkansas someone would be upducted especially 17 years ago.

But like most people here when I was young we would go to my brothers football games and I would leave and go down below & play with my friends until the game was over and then meet back up with my parents...this was back in the 80s.
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On the evening of June 9, 1995, Morgan Chauntel Nick was kidnapped while playing with friends just yards away from her mother during a little league game in Alma, Arkansas. A massive investigation ensued, and continues, but Morgan Nick remains missing.

[link to www.morgannickfoundation.com]

it is never safe. who would have thought in arkansas someone would be upducted especially 17 years ago.

But like most people here when I was young we would go to my brothers football games and I would leave and go down below & play with my friends until the game was over and then meet back up with my parents...this was back in the 80s.
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propoganda
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ministry of propaganda?
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ministry of propaganda?
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Why else would you post a 17 year old child abduction case with tremendous fear factor enemating from it??
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I couldn't read through all of these post's. I got steaming mad. I have 5 children. 18-3 years old. Yes, they go outside and play. If I'm not with the 3 year old, she can only go out with one of her siblings.

They play with all of the other children in the neighborhood. I live in a small farm village, but I don't live on a farm. I live in planned community in town. Large families are the norm here. My next door neighbor has 5 children, too, with about the same ranges in age.

All of the kids, this summer, went around playing in the neighborhood. My children know my rules. As I tell them, I trust them, but it is my job to check up on them( I call it eyeballing them). I do. I tell them I like to catch them following the rules. Great thing to reinforce positive behavior.

I cannot tell you how many times I fed lunch and snacks to kids that weren't mine as I know other parents fed lunch and snacks to my kids. I always did ask if it was a kid I didn't recognize to call home and ask. One because I didn't want to step on any ones toes, if they had plans, If the kid had any allergies and to let the parent know where there kid ended up in-case they weren't allowed to be that far away from home or they might need them for something. Plus it's just neighborly.

I know that no neighborhood is safe, that's why you teach your children how to stay safe. Stranger danger is one thing, but no one, no one is ever allowed to do anything that makes you uncomfortable, that you think is wrong or plain just goes against what you believe in. If there is even a start of that, just get out and come home.

My kids will play ghost in the graveyard(night time tag with a flash light) They ask before they go and play it with the neighborhood kids.

We have an Ice cream shop about 1.5 a way from our house. It is nothing for one of the Older kids to take one or more of the younger kids up and get ice cream.

I think 12 is around the age that kids are allowed to baby sit. So, what is the problem with one of your older children being out with one of your younger children away from home?

If you can see them or hear them, then you are supervising them, so that shouldn't be a problem.

So yes, it is wrong Social Services to be called for children playing outside.

You could always make up your own religion where children must play outside to honor whom ever you worship and then let social services know that your religious rights are being infringed upon the next time they call.
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Cops not cold.

And better that social services takes them from you than a pedo does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21929971


Idiot canuck fucktard don't you realize that if social services take them the odds are a pedo or worst will get their hands on them? Read the statistics, I know them off the top of my head because I have been personally involved in a friends problems with CPS and had a neighbor that molested a child he adopted through the state right in front of me and they refused to even take my statement.Kids taken by the state from their parents are over twenty times as likely to be sexually abused, ten times as likely to be murdered, 40 times as likely to commit suicide, and are almost always taken in for some ulterior motive like to be used as sexual toys, a cash cow where the foster family tries to make as much profit as possible off the child (some run what can literally be described as puppy farms taking in as many children as possible) and nearly every kid in state care begs to be reunited with their parents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1310569


since the OP leaves the kids out in fields without any supervision, and didn't even know the cops were talking to the children until his/her child told him/her, it won't be hard for social services to pick them up, will it?

As for your boy, hopefully he lucks out and does better than a "can't handle that child is not perfect... ME SMASH" King Kong for a father figure.

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and again the brainless AC's on this site amaze me...
HELLO OP HERE, a man, live in brooklyn. have 2 girls in their 20's and an 8 year old boy.



this was an article i read.
posted the whole article in the first post....did any of the AC's here even read it.
they are not my kids.
the article is from a MOTHER in middle America.
sheesh!
so stop calling me a bad parent...and funniest of all a bad mother...as i look down at my body i see that aint gona happen ever!

this is to look at why a family's teen daughters outside with their young children over 10 should be bothered by the police.

Last Edited by psyoptics on 08/22/2012 04:53 PM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I feel there is more to this story.
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Agreed.

There may have been recent break-ins or vandalism.

Besides, the "field adjacent to" the OP's house is obviously not the OP's property.

The children were on someone else's property, and the police officer had every right to ask them what they were doing there.

For all we know, the owner of the field may have complained about trespassers.
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dear God, did you really just say that children playing in the open field are trespassers?

Really. What world did you grow up in. Certainly not the one I grew up in, that I am 100% sure of.

My curfew was the porch light.

My parents called my name, not my cell.

I played outside with friends, not online. And we were allowed out to play without our parents being there. We were even allowed out of their sight from morning till night.

If I didn't eat what was cooked for dinner, then I didn't eat.

Sanitizer didn't exist, but you COULD get your mouth washed out with soap.

I rode a bike without a helmet,

Getting dirty was ok, and

Neighbors LOVED YOU as much as your parents did....and they showed it by reprimanding you just like they would.

You didn't want to go home if you knew the teacher was going to call because your parents were going to punish you much worse than what the school could do. And there were no explanations or excuses.

And we drank water from a garden hose and survived
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That is a cute cut and paste to appeal to people's nostalgia that I've seen over and over. I'm sure the generation before that could write up a pretty good one that could show up that one. All the way back to the times when we could write "back in my day the only fun we had was to sit in our caves and bash rocks against our sloped brow".

But that doesn't change the fact that I STILL think there is more to this story that is being let on.
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No neighborhood is 100% safe anymore. You should be out there watching them. Just my two cents. You never know when some piece of shit will come take your kids. Sadly the only safe place for unattended children is a backyard.

Edit. I'm not talking about the whole police thing. In our town a man tried to take 5 kids from diff schools last year and two days ago a man tried to put a 14 girl waiting at soccer practice in his car. I'm just saying its not very safe for kids anymore. I don't get why everyone is jumping on my back.
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It's about time to get drastic with child molesters. Their punishment when caught? Castration. I would think other molesters would think twice before kidnapping or molesting a child.
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The pussification of America. Everything is about safety. Well, fuck safety. This used to be a country of independent thinkers and risk takers. Now it's a country of political correctness and litigation where things that used to be normal are now criminal. All in the name of safety. Pussies, I say!
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The kids were obviously "domestic terrorists"
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Someone asked a few pages back - what changed?

What changed is that there isn't a parent home all day. In "our" day - moms were home. We may have thought we were running free - but someone was watching. If you got hurt, you could pretty much knock on any door and an adult would be there to help you. Today it's not uncommon for entire streets of houses to be empty of humans.

During the school year, everyone heads off in the morning to work and school. They get home and the kids have 1 - 2 hours of homework, dinner has to made and eaten, the parents are tired, the kids are wired from being inactive all day - but now it's too late at night for kids to be out playing. Some kids do sports and other after school activities which mean getting home even later. People don't get to know their neighbors because they're too busy too. There's just no time for kids to play.

In the summer - parents still have to go to work. They shuffle their kids off somewhere for the day, unless they can afford a sitter. If they're "lucky" enough to be looked after at home - there's no one to play with...and the sitter is too scared to let them out their site anyway.

My nephews live on a block full of kids but they all go to day care - so the boys are on their own until the other kids start coming home. At least in the summer, there's no homework, so the other kids do get some outdoor play time.

If we can get back to a place where families could afford to have only one parent work...we'll start seeing kids outside again.
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Her attitude is creepy don't sweat the avatar.
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I don't understand all the hostilty to my post. I live in a small town. Last school year some guy tried to take a kid from schools on 5 different occasions. Two days ago a guy tried to put a 14 year old waiting at her soccer practice into his car. I'm not comenting at all about the whole police part I'm just saying its not very safe anymore. Why all the mean comments?
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Speaking for myself, because you are a lying and shilling the 'there are plenty of play ideas online' bullshit and need to shut the fuck up.
Is that clear enough?
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What are u talking about that wasn't me and i dont even know what you are talking about.
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There is nothing wrong with being cautious.

You sound like a fine well meaning person.

However, some people in your camp actually report parents that allow their children to play outside.

Either we need to criminalize this behavior or curtail the ability of the state to intervene in family issues.

If my children are playing outside - I should not have to worry about a policeman visiting me because of a concerned neighbor. If they are allowed to do that - then there should be a civil court remedy that allows me to get compensation for their harassment.
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I don't understand all the hostilty to my post. I live in a small town. Last school year some guy tried to take a kid from schools on 5 different occasions. Two days ago a guy tried to put a 14 year old waiting at her soccer practice into his car. I'm not comenting at all about the whole police part I'm just saying its not very safe anymore. Why all the mean comments?
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Speaking for myself, because you are a lying and shilling the 'there are plenty of play ideas online' bullshit and need to shut the fuck up.
Is that clear enough?
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What are u talking about that wasn't me and i dont even know what you are talking about.
 Quoting: closing eyes


There is nothing wrong with being cautious.

You sound like a fine well meaning person.

However, some people in your camp actually report parents that allow their children to play outside.

Either we need to criminalize this behavior or curtail the ability of the state to intervene in family issues.

If my children are playing outside - I should not have to worry about a policeman visiting me because of a concerned neighbor. If they are allowed to do that - then there should be a civil court remedy that allows me to get compensation for their harassment.
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yes^^^^^^^^^
the city must make it clear there is a 24/7 no children on the street without a parent law and go public with it....
good luck with that and the angry mob of local citizens!

otherwise we still have the freedom to let our kids play outside with out fear the government will take them away...
the oddest thing here is ....
if we do not keep the kids inside they will be TAKEN by the GOVERNMENT, not a stranger....what is stranger then that!

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come on folks. REALLY!!!!

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I have had social services called on me twice and the police interrogate me 4 times, because apparently I am one of only two families that allows my children to play outside at all in our neighborhood (which is very safe . Just today, I allowed all four of my children (they were all together) to go play in the field adjacent to my house. I could literally see them outside my kitchen window. My 10 year old ran home to tell my husband and I that a cop had stopped and was interrogating my oldest daughter.

these were not little kids 10 years and up!

i am 49 when i was 12 i would get on my bike with friends and ride across town....several miles.

the whole neighborhood played outside.till we were called in around 9 or 10pm...in the summer!

if we are to hold our kids inside all day and night in FEAR... no wonder they are all getting FAT!

why do they do these...why?

we have let our government into every piece of our live...and once let in they will never leave.

like allowing a vampire access to your house....let them in and they stay till they have bled you dry!
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Just keep paying those property taxes so they will have enough funds to figure new ways to tighten the noose.
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The main problem with the fear of what might happen viewpoint, which creates this idea that 12 year old kids need to be constantly supervised, is that it is not rooted in the reality of the statistics, on average (not necessarily bad areas though), and even worse it instills fear in the next generation.

If many in this generation are as fearful as they are, fear that is not supported by statistics which indicate violent crime is at the very least steady, even though they did not have fear instilled in them by their parents, instead they were running wild in the streets playing, then imagine how much worse the next generation will be after many kids actually directly get the impression that it isn't safe enough to play outside without supervision due to their parents fearful attitudes. The question is how might that fear manifest when that next generation raises their kids. This whole state of affairs could, though hopefully it doesn't, become self perpetuating. The scary thing is that this fear is not justified by the facts. Steve Pinker has done a very rigorous examination of violence and it definitely trends down on average, though there are obviously local exceptions.

It makes alot more sense to empower kids by teaching them things like running away when strangers, or even "friends", are offering them unusual gifts and treats out of the blue and for no reason, such as alcohol, as this generally appears to be the modus operandi of deviants and perverts. Also a cell phone with a panic button that has GPS functionality is a genius idea if one is really worried and is in a bad area. The reason it is an awesome idea is it gives kids the ability to save themselves if they are in danger. Then kids of the right age can play outside without constant supervision while at the same time being empowered. That is a much better solution than instilling fear. It teaches them that there are ways to actually come up with empowering solutions vs teaching them to be terrified of the world and that they cannot help themselves except through fear and avoidance.





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