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The strange case of the Chilean that came from the future (article posted in Chilean Newspaper in 2000 becomes eerily accurate)

 
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Nice post Morgan.. But I'm curious now.. maybe there's a reason why we can only find recent stuff about the subject? Maybe a cover-up?
Not that it should matter.. would be confirmed soon anyways :P
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So, I hope this does not anger readers of this thread, but, perhaps now we can turn the conversation into a discussion as to WHY some of these claims were made:

1. Black President in 2012
2. Unmanned Mars craft finds life October 2012
3. President ANNOUNCES ruins on Mars
4. And, hostile aliens on the Moon
5. Leading to global crisis


Is this story MORE than just some fantastical fiction from a clever writer? Is there some nefarious purpose behind it?
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well , it is not happening !!
WAIT !!

ahhh
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1. Black President in 2012
2. Unmanned Mars craft finds life October 2012
3. President ANNOUNCES ruins on Mars
4. And, hostile aliens on the Moon
5. Leading to global crisis

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Fantastic job Morgan. We need to try to find the supposed original article from 2000 because I really doubt anyone would suspect that a black president will take power several years later.

OR... we wait until October ends.
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AGAIN

Original pic of the Newspaper

[link to www.google.com]
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The original link of this history comes from a Chilean online forum that has a section for conspiracy stuff, its in Spanish.

[link to www.portalnet.cl]

The Google Translation (edited by me) of the article is here:

Don Osvaldo Segundo Navarrete is the name of this particular Chilean character who, in October 2000 claimed nothing less than coming all the way from 2012.

This is confirmed by an interview he gave in a newspaper of the Eighth Region (Concepción Daily Chronicle) dated November 13, 2000, where he realizes his incredible time travel.

Although at the time his story sounded like pure science fiction, and only gave a little note in the trivia section of this local newspaper, today happens to be a mystery given the effectiveness of their assertions.

According to journalist Richard Sierra, who interviewed him at the time, he seemed very confident in his words, "seemed very lucid and kept repeating that a huge disaster happened in December 2012."

At that time there was no talk about the Mayans or anything like that, on the contrary, the fashionable prophecies were doomsday by the end of the millennium and the whole Y2K.


But who was this strange guy?. He claimed to have been the victim of a military experiment, the product of it being sent to the 2000 time.

He spared no details to hand, and not left to chance any point in its history, really seemed to be convinced that having lived.

According to his account, in the month of October 2012, the President of the United States informed the world the discovery of ruins of an ancient civilization on Mars product of unmanned space mission. After these statements, it would have generated a general chaos in the world, especially by the pressures of the church, which would end further aggravated following revelations that there was contact with a lunar civilization from the 50s, and not friendly contact.

In late 2012 the Earth passed trough an enormous social and economic crisis, which opened given way to social unrest in many countries in Europe and Asia, causing pestilence and famine in countries like Spain and France. Also had increased earthquakes and tsunamis, and heat waves had swept away all of Eastern Europe.

Additional to this, joint efforts were made between nations like China, Japan, Russia and the United States, to avoid an alleged alien attack, which was rather controversial, because there were groups who claimed it was all a ploy to bring totalitarianism in the world .

finish it at url - to be in compliance with glps 50% copyright posting rule/link to source
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I read about all these things back in the 1990's. December 2012 was well known in the late 90's. The fake alien invasion conspiracy theory has been around for even longer. As Joe Biden would say, "Malarkey"...
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WOW!! good find, OP!
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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AGAIN

Original pic of the Newspaper

[link to www.google.com]
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Like I said before, in the forum posted in OP they already discussed that the image was a fake.

Still, the OP on that forum insist the news was real, but no one could find it yet.
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Like said before nobody knows the Future, cause the moment he would come from the Future and make predictions about it the outcome would be changed.

You could "try" to know it if, i where about to try time travel, i´ll do it this way.

I would take the most clever Computer coders around, a cross over out of the science community, Meterologist "they try to predict", Physiks people, Biologists, then i would make em write a BONIC client, BONIC is distributed computing power.

I would spred it out to basically everybody then you have all the computing power and then you have this Programm.

Feed on a daily basis with all the stuff thats going on, if you realy do it to perfection and could scan and track every bit of matter on earth, well you may actually be able to give short time predictions.

But now imagine this programm spews out some predictions and it goes trough the chain of command as soon the 1st guy in charge see´s it he will do something about it.

So the Programm has to alter all it calulations giving a new outcome and so forth.

Future is not existent we think it is, but it actually is not, we create it in the very moment we think about it or we act and do something.

Actually our brain is quite capable to watch into the futurew on a short term basis, given this computer programm it does just that.

You scan your surroundings and can predict how they may act, if you dont say anything bad shit may happen, but if you step in and talk to this person you observed the outcome is fluid and changed in the moment you started interacting.

This is why i say time travel as we think is impossible.
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So that shiny object on Mars was actually manufactured by aliens?

Man, that's awesome.
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AGAIN

Original pic of the Newspaper

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22706162


Like I said before, in the forum posted in OP they already discussed that the image was a fake.

Still, the OP on that forum insist the news was real, but no one could find it yet.
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No hay informacion de esto antes del 2012, alguien aqui puso que vio unos blogs hablando del tema con fecha 2007-2008, que ponga el link porque yo no encontre nada.
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AGAIN

Original pic of the Newspaper

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22706162


Like I said before, in the forum posted in OP they already discussed that the image was a fake.

Still, the OP on that forum insist the news was real, but no one could find it yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25346740


No hay informacion de esto antes del 2012, alguien aqui puso que vio unos blogs hablando del tema con fecha 2007-2008, que ponga el link porque yo no encontre nada.
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[link to expedienteoculto.blogspot.com.ar]

As the article states, there's no record about this news being discussed before August 2012.

There's no mention there about 2007-2008 blogs.
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unfortunately, its not in English but here is supposedly a video on it, maybe an interview.


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WTF! ?

Interesting video!

The guy is in jail, and claims to be an android sent to remove idiocy in the world. He also say that if he is treated good he will be happy to take them with him in his space craft.
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But in the same blog you find this:

Hola, mi nombre es Felipe Mendoza, soy chileno, de Concepción, periodista y trabajé el 2011 en la Estrella de Concepción (ex Crónica de Concepción).

"Hello, my name is Felipe Mendoza, I'm from Chile, from Concepción, journalist and I worked in 2011 in 'Estrella de Ceoncepción'"

Well, this guy claims the story is real, but it was published long before internet was spreaded along chilean territory.

I'll try to contact him later.
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Nice post Morgan.. But I'm curious now.. maybe there's a reason why we can only find recent stuff about the subject? Maybe a cover-up?
Not that it should matter.. would be confirmed soon anyways :P
 Quoting: 1908247


I tried soooo many variations to find something different than just the quoting of one article.

I went to a different search engine. I did date searches. I even google-translated a few in Japanese. The only source is that article.

And, yes, it is interesting that blogs which predated Obama's election were found, yet, I suspect that these could be 'edited' to replace the original with this one. But, if they ARE unaltered, that could point to TPTB having already elected Obama, and, approved Curiouity...assuming we are there.

I don't think it's a cover-up.

If the original story did get out in 2000, there would TOTALLY have been many sources that reported on it. Black Pesident, ruins on Mars, hostile Aliens? There would remain traces of this in sources that could not be changed, such as published books and magazines.

In fact, if just days before our 2000 election news appeared that we would elect a Black President eight years later, we would have heard something.

Even GLP did not have early articles, or, any of the other sites like it, Not Wilcox, no one. Not even Nancy Lieder!


Methinks that this could be plaqnted material, maybe for something as innocent as a movie in the works. Of, as I said earlier...something nefarious.

I REALLY do not have ANY hope that President Obama would be telling us about Mars ruins and hostile aliens...unless

YIKES! (ha!)

On last thing. In November of 2000, this guy was supposedly transported here from OCTOBER 2012.

What does that tell us? If he had not yet experience Dec 21, 2012, how could he know anything beyond October?

We may have a black president, we may have sent an unmanned craft to Mars--which, incidentally, just found a piece of PLASTIC garbage on the ground, which I believe is biodegradable--again, even though some of this IS true, there could not be more than two more weeks for what he allegedly witnessed in 2012 to come to fruition.

If there IS a cover-up, my brain can't yet work out what it may be!

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bsflag

says nothing of the middle east

which is MAJOR in the world today

BS!!
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unfortunately, its not in English but here is supposedly a video on it, maybe an interview.


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WTF! ?

Interesting video!

The guy is in jail, and claims to be an android sent to remove idiocy in the world. He also say that if he is treated good he will be happy to take them with him in his space craft.
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[link to translate.google.com]

A convicted murderer of Salvador called "Rene Villacorta" claims to be an android called mopping Blayr, you have to listen to such talk to realize levels far as the crazy, this guy is literally disconnected from the real world.


Says its mission is to kill the stupid, I make that true political pleas tricolor perform a courtesy visit to this enigmatic character.
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AGAIN

Original pic of the Newspaper

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22706162


Like I said before, in the forum posted in OP they already discussed that the image was a fake.

Still, the OP on that forum insist the news was real, but no one could find it yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25346740




No hay informacion de esto antes del 2012, alguien aqui puso que vio unos blogs hablando del tema con fecha 2007-2008, que ponga el link porque yo no encontre nada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22706162


[link to expedienteoculto.blogspot.com.ar]

As the article states, there's no record about this news being discussed before August 2012.

There's no mention there about 2007-2008 blogs.
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Not there,here
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unfortunately, its not in English but here is supposedly a video on it, maybe an interview.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24233037


WTF! ?

Interesting video!

The guy is in jail, and claims to be an android sent to remove idiocy in the world. He also say that if he is treated good he will be happy to take them with him in his space craft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25436078


[link to translate.google.com]

A convicted murderer of Salvador called "Rene Villacorta" claims to be an android called mopping Blayr, you have to listen to such talk to realize levels far as the crazy, this guy is literally disconnected from the real world.


Says its mission is to kill the stupid, I make that true political pleas tricolor perform a courtesy visit to this enigmatic character.
 Quoting: net

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Apparently he also speaks 22 languages of the World - wtf, if this is real?
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I don't think Chileans care much about American politics.....
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time travel is impossible because the earth is in a different spot every moment
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Um, so the time traveller arranges to travel in space as well.
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Nice post Morgan.. But I'm curious now.. maybe there's a reason why we can only find recent stuff about the subject? Maybe a cover-up?
Not that it should matter.. would be confirmed soon anyways :P
 Quoting: 1908247


I tried soooo many variations to find something different than just the quoting of one article.

I went to a different search engine. I did date searches. I even google-translated a few in Japanese. The only source is that article.

And, yes, it is interesting that blogs which predated Obama's election were found, yet, I suspect that these could be 'edited' to replace the original with this one. But, if they ARE unaltered, that could point to TPTB having already elected Obama, and, approved Curiouity...assuming we are there.

I don't think it's a cover-up.

If the original story did get out in 2000, there would TOTALLY have been many sources that reported on it. Black Pesident, ruins on Mars, hostile Aliens? There would remain traces of this in sources that could not be changed, such as published books and magazines.

In fact, if just days before our 2000 election news appeared that we would elect a Black President eight years later, we would have heard something.

Even GLP did not have early articles, or, any of the other sites like it, Not Wilcox, no one. Not even Nancy Lieder!


Methinks that this could be plaqnted material, maybe for something as innocent as a movie in the works. Of, as I said earlier...something nefarious.

I REALLY do not have ANY hope that President Obama would be telling us about Mars ruins and hostile aliens...unless

YIKES! (ha!)

On last thing. In November of 2000, this guy was supposedly transported here from OCTOBER 2012.

What does that tell us? If he had not yet experience Dec 21, 2012, how could he know anything beyond October?

We may have a black president, we may have sent an unmanned craft to Mars--which, incidentally, just found a piece of PLASTIC garbage on the ground, which I believe is biodegradable--again, even though some of this IS true, there could not be more than two more weeks for what he allegedly witnessed in 2012 to come to fruition.

If there IS a cover-up, my brain can't yet work out what it may be!

cool2
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Morgan I'm trying to make contact with this person called Felipe Mendoza who claims to be a former journalist who worked for that newspaper in 2011. As I stated before, he claims everybody knew the story was real back there.

This is his Blogger user:

[link to www.blogger.com]

I can't find anything regarding his nickname or contact information.

Also, in the same blog somebody asked to this Felipe Mendoza to make contact with them, they even leaved an email address:

[email protected]

I just sent an email to these guys to know if they made contact with this 'journalist'.
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The blog I'm mentioning is the one you already posted, the debunking one:

[link to expedienteoculto.blogspot.com.ar]
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FAKE

original: [link to www.ecoprotege.cl]
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Nice post Morgan.. But I'm curious now.. maybe there's a reason why we can only find recent stuff about the subject? Maybe a cover-up?
Not that it should matter.. would be confirmed soon anyways :P
 Quoting: 1908247


I tried soooo many variations to find something different than just the quoting of one article.

I went to a different search engine. I did date searches. I even google-translated a few in Japanese. The only source is that article.

And, yes, it is interesting that blogs which predated Obama's election were found, yet, I suspect that these could be 'edited' to replace the original with this one. But, if they ARE unaltered, that could point to TPTB having already elected Obama, and, approved Curiouity...assuming we are there.

I don't think it's a cover-up.

If the original story did get out in 2000, there would TOTALLY have been many sources that reported on it. Black Pesident, ruins on Mars, hostile Aliens? There would remain traces of this in sources that could not be changed, such as published books and magazines.

In fact, if just days before our 2000 election news appeared that we would elect a Black President eight years later, we would have heard something.

Even GLP did not have early articles, or, any of the other sites like it, Not Wilcox, no one. Not even Nancy Lieder!


Methinks that this could be plaqnted material, maybe for something as innocent as a movie in the works. Of, as I said earlier...something nefarious.

I REALLY do not have ANY hope that President Obama would be telling us about Mars ruins and hostile aliens...unless

YIKES! (ha!)

On last thing. In November of 2000, this guy was supposedly transported here from OCTOBER 2012.

What does that tell us? If he had not yet experience Dec 21, 2012, how could he know anything beyond October?

We may have a black president, we may have sent an unmanned craft to Mars--which, incidentally, just found a piece of PLASTIC garbage on the ground, which I believe is biodegradable--again, even though some of this IS true, there could not be more than two more weeks for what he allegedly witnessed in 2012 to come to fruition.

If there IS a cover-up, my brain can't yet work out what it may be!

cool2
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Morgan I'm trying to make contact with this person called Felipe Mendoza who claims to be a former journalist who worked for that newspaper in 2011. As I stated before, he claims everybody knew the story was real back there.

This is his Blogger user:

[link to www.blogger.com]

I can't find anything regarding his nickname or contact information.

Also, in the same blog somebody asked to this Felipe Mendoza to make contact with them, they even leaved an email address:

[email protected]

I just sent an email to these guys to know if they made contact with this 'journalist'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25346740




Really?

I am so sorry I missed your post. hmmm.

Well, this puts a new spin on this issue, doesn't it?

I hope I haven't made myself look like a fool!

Can't wait to hear if he responds! Thanks!
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Nice post Morgan.. But I'm curious now.. maybe there's a reason why we can only find recent stuff about the subject? Maybe a cover-up?
Not that it should matter.. would be confirmed soon anyways :P
 Quoting: 1908247


I tried soooo many variations to find something different than just the quoting of one article.

I went to a different search engine. I did date searches. I even google-translated a few in Japanese. The only source is that article.

And, yes, it is interesting that blogs which predated Obama's election were found, yet, I suspect that these could be 'edited' to replace the original with this one. But, if they ARE unaltered, that could point to TPTB having already elected Obama, and, approved Curiouity...assuming we are there.

I don't think it's a cover-up.

If the original story did get out in 2000, there would TOTALLY have been many sources that reported on it. Black Pesident, ruins on Mars, hostile Aliens? There would remain traces of this in sources that could not be changed, such as published books and magazines.

In fact, if just days before our 2000 election news appeared that we would elect a Black President eight years later, we would have heard something.

Even GLP did not have early articles, or, any of the other sites like it, Not Wilcox, no one. Not even Nancy Lieder!


Methinks that this could be plaqnted material, maybe for something as innocent as a movie in the works. Of, as I said earlier...something nefarious.

I REALLY do not have ANY hope that President Obama would be telling us about Mars ruins and hostile aliens...unless

YIKES! (ha!)

On last thing. In November of 2000, this guy was supposedly transported here from OCTOBER 2012.

What does that tell us? If he had not yet experience Dec 21, 2012, how could he know anything beyond October?

We may have a black president, we may have sent an unmanned craft to Mars--which, incidentally, just found a piece of PLASTIC garbage on the ground, which I believe is biodegradable--again, even though some of this IS true, there could not be more than two more weeks for what he allegedly witnessed in 2012 to come to fruition.

If there IS a cover-up, my brain can't yet work out what it may be!

cool2
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Morgan I'm trying to make contact with this person called Felipe Mendoza who claims to be a former journalist who worked for that newspaper in 2011. As I stated before, he claims everybody knew the story was real back there.

This is his Blogger user:

[link to www.blogger.com]

I can't find anything regarding his nickname or contact information.

Also, in the same blog somebody asked to this Felipe Mendoza to make contact with them, they even leaved an email address:

[email protected]

I just sent an email to these guys to know if they made contact with this 'journalist'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25346740




Really?

I am so sorry I missed your post. hmmm.

Well, this puts a new spin on this issue, doesn't it?

I hope I haven't made myself look like a fool!

Can't wait to hear if he responds! Thanks!
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Well I only have the email from the people trying to reach this Felipe Mendoza guy. So I emailed them to see if they had success contacting him.

I could try contacting directly that newspaper and see if there's some person called Felipe Mendoza who actually worked there in 2011 as he claimed.
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This is the newspaper website:

[link to www.cronica.cl]
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Damn their 'contact' link doesn't work!...
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Dis the time traveler mention the gulf of Mexico disaster from 2008? Wouldnt that be the first thing to mention if in 2000 you were trying to convince someone you are from 2012??? Or. How about the US will have a black president. That would be noteworthy if you were really 12 years ahead of the physical time you existed in.

Lots of things pre 2012 which would have already convinced US of his claims
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Re: The strange case of the Chilean that came from the future (article posted in Chilean Newspaper in 2000 becomes eerily accurate)
FAKE

original: [link to www.ecoprotege.cl]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25316861


The only problem with the debunk is maybe debunking IS the misinfo....however heres a quick translation of the first sentence...and the pic makes more sense:

Representatives of organizations against animal abuse reported yesterday that the Municipality of Concepcion conducted "killings of stray dogs"





GLP