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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22344289 Germany 08/22/2012 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. Christian gun owner.. it's like saying the straight gay. Luke 22:36 Jesus said to his disciples: He said to them, “From this hour, whoever has a money bag should take it and thus also a wallet, and whoever lacks a sword, let him sell his tunic and buy a sword for himself. Luke 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. There was a temporary explanation for that. Without the sword, this wouldn't happen: Matthew 26:51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. An without that the enemies of Jesus wouldn't have got an justification for treating him as a felon. |
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ruxpin User ID: 1420924 United States 08/22/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Him..thought killing was against christian rules. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18169141 I guess guns CAN be used for wounding, I suppose.. Being Christian doesn't mean you can't defend yourself. Unless you are an active Christian with knowledge of the bible, you shouldn't quote or paraphrase from the bible; it makes you look stupid. I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7367792 Sweden 08/22/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. Christian gun owner.. it's like saying the straight gay. Luke 22:36 Jesus said to his disciples: He said to them, “From this hour, whoever has a money bag should take it and thus also a wallet, and whoever lacks a sword, let him sell his tunic and buy a sword for himself. Yes.. this is clearly the essence of the message of Christ.. "make sure you got a sword so you can kill your brothers and sisters, when necessary" |
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strategicdiscernment User ID: 13810756 United States 08/22/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. Christian gun owner.. it's like saying the straight gay. Luke 22:36 Jesus said to his disciples: He said to them, “From this hour, whoever has a money bag should take it and thus also a wallet, and whoever lacks a sword, let him sell his tunic and buy a sword for himself. Yes.. this is clearly the essence of the message of Christ.. "make sure you got a sword so you can kill your brothers and sisters, when necessary" Oh c'mon you're just getting silly with it now. If someone was raping your wife and/or daughter, you would allow that person to continue until your family dies from internal bleeding or would you actually protect your family like a man? See it's just so plain obvious it's not even about a substantiative argument anymore, its just poke the daily scapegoat which today happens to be Christianity apparently. Meh. EDIT: Also it is written plain as day in the Bible that Christians would be persecuted near the end times simply for their beliefs. So as far as defending ourselves you betcha. As for everyone else obviously treat thy neighbor as thyself. Pray for your enemies, even. As Jesus laid dying on the cross being spat on and having rocks thrown at him he STILL prayed for his attackers and mockers saying, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do!" Do you know anyone who is so virtuous as to do such a thing? It speaks volumes IMHO Last Edited by strategicdiscernment on 08/22/2012 09:47 AM “It would never come into their heads to fabricate such colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there must be some other explanation.” -Adolf Hitler 1925 ___________ Thread: Understanding our SOVEREIGNTY & REPUBLIC <--- Must watch [2 videos] ___________ “The principle object of their directorate consists in this: To debilitate the public mind by criticism; To lead it away from serious reflections calculated to arouse resistance; To distract the forces of the mind towards a sham fight of empty eloquence.” -The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22344289 Germany 08/22/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. Christian gun owner.. it's like saying the straight gay. Luke 22:36 Jesus said to his disciples: He said to them, “From this hour, whoever has a money bag should take it and thus also a wallet, and whoever lacks a sword, let him sell his tunic and buy a sword for himself. Yes.. this is clearly the essence of the message of Christ.. "make sure you got a sword so you can kill your brothers and sisters, when necessary" I like your sarcasm. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483931 United States 08/22/2012 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. you sure do expect a lot out of people. it must make real friendships very difficult for you. fuck off in your glass house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22306258 United States 08/22/2012 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I think psy-ops are at play here, and a lot of the comments are not by true believers of Christian faith. Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow I don't understand how a true believer in that faith can even attempt to declare a weapon is what the Messiah would approve of... The US constitution says you have a right to bare arms - fine, that's not the issue here. The issue here is a man who believed in LOVE accepting his followers would have a weapon and use it against their perceived "enemy". It is 100% hypocritical. I'm not Jesus. |
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ruxpin User ID: 1420924 United States 08/22/2012 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is some scary shit and what with the veteran that is being detained, but not arrested, in line with NDAA, it is clear where we are headed. Don't forget folks, Hitler was once Time Magazine's Man of the Year. Every single Senator, Congressman, Representative should be taken out and shot for sitting idly by while this White House occupant shits on our Constitution. They are all complicit in this destruction of the country. I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit. |
FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 08/22/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 people in 30 days hardly constitutes a war. I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek? And isn't there a commandment "Thou shall not kill"? What are Christians going to do with their guns? Piss off God? Go to hell? Sounds like bullshit to me. |
strategicdiscernment User ID: 13810756 United States 08/22/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Him..thought killing was against christian rules. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18169141 I guess guns CAN be used for wounding, I suppose.. Murder yes, killing no. all killing of humans is wrong one mans murder is another ones self defense Jesus is the truth. There is but one & only one. The truth is known rest assured in Jesus' name. “It would never come into their heads to fabricate such colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there must be some other explanation.” -Adolf Hitler 1925 ___________ Thread: Understanding our SOVEREIGNTY & REPUBLIC <--- Must watch [2 videos] ___________ “The principle object of their directorate consists in this: To debilitate the public mind by criticism; To lead it away from serious reflections calculated to arouse resistance; To distract the forces of the mind towards a sham fight of empty eloquence.” -The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7367792 Sweden 08/22/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 people in 30 days hardly constitutes a war. Quoting: FatalW1shes I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek? And isn't there a commandment "Thou shall not kill"? What are Christians going to do with their guns? Piss off God? Go to hell? Sounds like bullshit to me. Well .. not right now.. now we are cherry picking other parts of the bible, that better suits our goals. Jesus want you to be armed.. in fact.. you should sell your shirt, in order to buy a gun! |
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TheBiss User ID: 1501937 United States 08/22/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek? Quoting: FatalW1shes And isn't there a commandment "Thou shall not kill"? What are Christians going to do with their guns? Piss off God? Go to hell? Sounds like bullshit to me. Another interpretation is "Shall not commit murder". [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
strategicdiscernment User ID: 13810756 United States 08/22/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “It would never come into their heads to fabricate such colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there must be some other explanation.” -Adolf Hitler 1925 ___________ Thread: Understanding our SOVEREIGNTY & REPUBLIC <--- Must watch [2 videos] ___________ “The principle object of their directorate consists in this: To debilitate the public mind by criticism; To lead it away from serious reflections calculated to arouse resistance; To distract the forces of the mind towards a sham fight of empty eloquence.” -The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion |
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Unit 1 User ID: 1403247 United States 08/22/2012 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 people in 30 days hardly constitutes a war. Quoting: FatalW1shes I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek? And isn't there a commandment "Thou shall not kill"? What are Christians going to do with their guns? Piss off God? Go to hell? Sounds like bullshit to me. Murder...do you look like your avatar? lol |
IRQ_1 User ID: 22208328 United States 08/22/2012 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Him..thought killing was against christian rules. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18169141 I guess guns CAN be used for wounding, I suppose.. Murder yes, killing no. all killing of humans is wrong one mans murder is another ones self defense So if someone was trying to kill your children you would just sit back and let them? After all if something is wrong then how can you justify the action? :bsflag; Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
strategicdiscernment User ID: 13810756 United States 08/22/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Duly noted XD “It would never come into their heads to fabricate such colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there must be some other explanation.” -Adolf Hitler 1925 ___________ Thread: Understanding our SOVEREIGNTY & REPUBLIC <--- Must watch [2 videos] ___________ “The principle object of their directorate consists in this: To debilitate the public mind by criticism; To lead it away from serious reflections calculated to arouse resistance; To distract the forces of the mind towards a sham fight of empty eloquence.” -The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion |
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xXVoodooXx User ID: 22407414 United States 08/22/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder why Jesus followers have so little faith they need a weapon to protect them? Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow uhuh! Always the same stupid argument. God helps those who help themselves. He does not say, sit back and let everyone walk all over you, he does not say or suggest that you should not protect yourself or your family. Tell me how having a weapon is a lack of faith the Jesus? An empty stomach is not a good political adviser. Albert Einstein Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7200451 United States 08/22/2012 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always wonder why Jesus followers have so little faith they need a weapon to protect them? Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow uhuh! I always wonder why Jesus followers have so little faith they need a weapon to protect them? Quoting: watchZEITGEISTnow uhuh! The same could be said for Israel. Now please kill yourself. Zeitgeist sucks and everyone but you knows that apparently. |
samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 08/22/2012 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A "Christian gun owner" is a contradiction in itself because a true Christian would never own, buy or wear a gun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22348853 I'm a Christian, and I see nothing against owning a gun. After all Jesus (Yahweh) owned and used a whip against people (in the temple), and ordered his disciples to buy a Sword. Even if they had to sell their clothing to buy that sword, he wanted them to have it for self defense. All good Christians should have a weapon, just like our Lord did while he was here in the flesh. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7367792 Sweden 08/22/2012 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Him..thought killing was against christian rules. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18169141 I guess guns CAN be used for wounding, I suppose.. Murder yes, killing no. all killing of humans is wrong one mans murder is another ones self defense So if someone was trying to kill your children you would just sit back and let them? After all if something is wrong then how can you justify the action? :bsflag; I doesn't take a spiritually grown human, to simply and directly kill what is not liked, by the push of a button. A monkey could do that. It's just a matter of attacking the symptom, not the cause. It wont change anything. A spiritually grown human would try do create a society in which this things are not occurring. Having everyone armed so that you don't have to share (just kill the trespasser) is maybe not the way. |
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