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If you want to be a real rebel..then lead a Christ Like Life ..in my opinion

 
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I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
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It takes an enormous leap of faith..literally..yet we have many examples of people that place their total trust in God and manage..all is provided..hf

Just like the lillies in the field..or the birds..
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Is this what you have done WH? Are you penniless? Poor?

I bet not...

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Amen!
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thats what is feared...

Pure..kind honest loving people ..that live a Christ Like Life..that arent for sale and cant be bought..

Lights in the world

hf
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Agreed...happyheart
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: If you want to be a real rebel..then lead a Christ Like Life ..in my opinion
I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


They aren't mostly false there are all false. Why can't you FEAR God and walk in His shoes? I didn't say hope to the end.
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I haven't posted in a couple hours, so I assume my brand new red thumb is do to a post in this thread. Couldn't be more wrong. stop the disinfo plz I am not wrong. I am not planting disinfo. I run the 2nd Coming organization ON this planet and we do not teach false material.

This is the final opportunity for people to grow into becoming Sovereign. The Lucifer Rebellion is Over, and man is to be free, but he must grow a FREE MIND. There are not enough free minds on this planet to raise it up, so it must be cleansed, you ones have destroyed it. You did not generally find the GOD WITHIN that Jesus taught about. It is because of the strong over control by the thugs of this world thru religion and political parties and MONEY.
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I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


They aren't mostly false there are all false. Why can't you FEAR God and walk in His shoes? I didn't say hope to the end.
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You are a typical person who is coming out of the darkness of the false churches and still in error. It's happening all around us, it's called famine for the truth now.
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Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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True dat. In most of my university classes it is perfectly acceptable to bash Christianity and conservative values. It is rebellious to question this and even had a friend get kicked out of class for doing so.
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yeah, I was ostracized at a previous job. Was kind to everyone, kept a Bible on my desk to read on breaks, never shoved anything down anyone's throat. Wore a big ole cross though cuz I like it - and....eventually got 'forced out' of the job. They hired a nutjob Wiccan (not a friendly one, a V-for Vendetta one), who told me all her problems, confided in me she'd previously been physically abused by her native American boyfriend - I always lent an ear. She said she felt ugly, I told her she was beautiful. I thought it was weird she told me all this stuff about herself but never ONCE asked anything about me or my family.

After she gained my confidence she started lying about me to others. To this day, I have no idea what she said or what was going on. Like 2nd grade, everyone started avoiding me like the plague. She and her comrades destroyed my career. TOTALLY changed my entire life and my family's life. I had to take a mindless job and a HUGE paycut from which I was never able to catch up from - even 10 years later. I only know I was constantly made fun of - they were calling me a "prude" and a "old virgin" and lots of other things - my coworkers were partying at night without me and mocking me. They'd have birthday parties for each other, but never for me. It was so childish if it didn't have adult consequences. It was all surreal, and up until this summer had been the absolute WORST experience of my life. It was absolute hell. I had nightmares about them stalking me and ruining me everywhere I went. These nightmares still happen occassionally!
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Wow, beautiful to know you still have your dignity.

It is hard to do and be the right thing in this world..
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Re: If you want to be a real rebel..then lead a Christ Like Life ..in my opinion
I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


They aren't mostly false there are all false. Why can't you FEAR God and walk in His shoes? I didn't say hope to the end.
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to make a statement of fearing God you have placed God up in the sky someplace and not within YOU. YOU ARE a SON of GOD as soon as you stop fearing God. It is the fear that keeps man in religion. You are all part of the CREATOR. he is not a person separate from you. Every thinking person, be they angels or Man, create together. "God" only creates in LOVE. Fear is never of love. To fear God is to fear LOVE. OK.

It is each man's time to grow into his higher being or move to play the game of being in a herd someplace else. The lesson of 4d is to become a sovereign being.
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I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


They aren't mostly false there are all false. Why can't you FEAR God and walk in His shoes? I didn't say hope to the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262



to make a statement of fearing God you have placed God up in the sky someplace and not within YOU. YOU ARE a SON of GOD as soon as you stop fearing God. It is the fear that keeps man in religion. You are all part of the CREATOR. he is not a person separate from you. Every thinking person, be they angels or Man, create together. "God" only creates in LOVE. Fear is never of love. To fear God is to fear LOVE. OK.

It is each man's time to grow into his higher being or move to play the game of being in a herd someplace else. The lesson of 4d is to become a sovereign being.
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That sounds New Agey
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If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


They aren't mostly false there are all false. Why can't you FEAR God and walk in His shoes? I didn't say hope to the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262



to make a statement of fearing God you have placed God up in the sky someplace and not within YOU. YOU ARE a SON of GOD as soon as you stop fearing God. It is the fear that keeps man in religion. You are all part of the CREATOR. he is not a person separate from you. Every thinking person, be they angels or Man, create together. "God" only creates in LOVE. Fear is never of love. To fear God is to fear LOVE. OK.

It is each man's time to grow into his higher being or move to play the game of being in a herd someplace else. The lesson of 4d is to become a sovereign being.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


That sounds New Agey
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Welcome to the new age so yes it probably does let go of everythimg you thought you knew
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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I believe in:

Loving God above all else
Turning from my idols in my life
Fearing God
Treating others as I would like to be treated
Being wise and staying away from false christians
Keeping His works until the end
Holding fast my crown
Holding firm my hope until the end
Continuing in His goodness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586262


If you are joining herds, like political parties, you are not walking in his shoes. If you FEAR God, you cannot walk in his shoes. "False christians"? they are all mostly false, Christ gave himself no LABEL. By giving yourself such labels and applying them to others, you are walking walking in christs shoes at all, nor God's shoes. Your hope to the END? What is that? If man had grown up, as a society there would NO end. Only transformation. Sadly the planet will be closed for many years so it can be repaired, because man forgot the planet is his home, and that heaven is not up there, but WITHIN HIM.
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Instead of trying to deconstruct them entirely, a different approach is needed.

There are many things that the person said, that you responded to, were correct. Support those and help to guide the points you don't agree with.
1. Loving God (meaning THE ALL) above all else. If you truly put LOVING GOD into action, it will transfer to every living, and even non-living entity.
2. Turning from all idols is a must.
3. LOVING GOD instead of giving it your fear is the MAIN PURPOSE.
4. Treating others as they would like to be treated is PERFECT.
5. Being wise and staying away from false Christians requires discernment and the full practice of a person of higher consciousness. -If you only half practice this, you will be fooled by those who also only half-practice.
6. Keeping his works until the end. -This should be defined by the person themselves which would require an inquiry into one's own ego. -Is there an end? And who defines the "works?"
7. Holding fast my crown? -Only the person who typed that will understand what they mean.
8. Holding firm hope to the end? -There would be no need for hope if one was truly practicing these tenets. However, it is apparent that the person typing is a relatively good person.
9. Continuing in "his" goodness. -Again, this is subjective and cannot be approached by someone outside of the person's mind who typed it.-

-Anyway, I'll agree with some of your response, but again...it seems more negatively charged as opposed to re-inforcing the positive aspects of their post.-

-And yes, there are times when you must break down the logic of certain people because otherwise, they WILL CONTINUE making gross mistakes. BUT...this is not one of those times. IN MY OPINION...

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 08/22/2012 01:15 PM
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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The spirit of the fear of the Lord was one of the 7 spirits that were upon Christ Jesus. I see nothing wrong with it. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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You can't go up to a person who wants you dead and try to give him a hug. Sure love your neighbors and friends and shit. But some people need a good ass kicking.
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The spirit of the fear of the Lord was one of the 7 spirits that were upon Christ Jesus. I see nothing wrong with it. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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And the end of wisdom is no fear
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The spirit of the fear of the Lord was one of the 7 spirits that were upon Christ Jesus. I see nothing wrong with it. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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And the end of wisdom is no fear
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Yes, He does have a peace that knows no fear, I agree, but that has nothing to do with the spirit of the Fear of the Lord.
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So true! So many people in this Earth today hate Christ, hate the bible, and most of all, hate the God of the Hebrew Israelites (AHAYAH)... Nice thread OP!
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The "God" of the Hebrews is false. Follow Christ to the true Light!!
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[link to www.youtube.com] hf
There go I except for the grace of God.
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You can't go up to a person who wants you dead and try to give him a hug. Sure love your neighbors and friends and shit. But some people need a good ass kicking.
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Really??? Is that the case???

I had a guy who actually TRIED to genuinely kill me about 9 years ago. He first started off as a friend, and then because of a situation, ended up my enemy. He ended up getting arrested and doing time.

4 years after he got out of prison, I saw him in a bar. Despite the fact that he tried to KILL me, and did time for it...he still harbored anger against me for the time he did...even though I NEVER PRESSED CHARGES. Evidently he had priors and the law was willing to capitalize.

As I approached him in the bar, he recognized who was coming towards him. His eyes changed and I could see he was ready to fight again. I continued walking towards him, and as he got out of his seat ready to swing, I first grabbed him in a lock around his neck with my right arm and put my left arm under his right armpit clasping my hands around his back so that it made swinging impossible. Then I held him and told him that I "LOVED HIM" despite what had happened.

He first stood there with a rigidity of pure hate, and as I continued to hold him, he could feel my genuine UNCONDITIONAL LOVE emanating through him. Keep in mind that this guy had also gone over to the "Brotherhood" while in prison...according to him, it was in order to "survive." Therefore his hate was rather cultivated at that point. Despite his initial response, he began to relax and I let him go. Once this happened, he gave ME a genuine hug of LOVE.

We've been friends EVERY SINCE...and he actually had all of his "white power" tattoos covered up.

That's a TRUE STORY from beginning to end. Believe it if you choose...or continue to think that hate somehow solves situations as opposed to accelerating them. Your choice....

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 08/22/2012 01:30 PM
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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This teaching by Jesus was LEFT OUT OF YOUR BIBLE.



Jesus said 2000 years ago: "Truly, I say to you, wisdom must be learned from the laws of Creation, which humans may recognize in nature. But if humans do not think and seek, they will not be able to attain wisdom and will remain fools.There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other savior than the power of the spirit."
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This teaching by Jesus was LEFT OUT OF YOUR BIBLE.



Jesus said 2000 years ago: "Truly, I say to you, wisdom must be learned from the laws of Creation, which humans may recognize in nature. But if humans do not think and seek, they will not be able to attain wisdom and will remain fools.There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other savior than the power of the spirit."

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+1
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I felt the love of God once. It was awesome! Anything anyone did to me could easily easily easily be forgiven. The transgressions others had done to me over the years, even the worst things done to me, were as nothing. They melted away and pure forgiveness overwhelmed me. It's an incredible love and I doubt that most of us live in it constantly. It's not that we have to "work up" to love others this way but rather let the love of Christ overcome us and flow in us and love through us.
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This teaching by Jesus was LEFT OUT OF YOUR BIBLE.



Jesus said 2000 years ago: "Truly, I say to you, wisdom must be learned from the laws of Creation, which humans may recognize in nature. But if humans do not think and seek, they will not be able to attain wisdom and will remain fools.There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other savior than the power of the spirit."

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+1
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You're not to add or substract to the Word of God!
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CHRIST

Today people divide Christ into aspects such as "historical," "cosmic," "mystical" and so on. But Christ in his essence is one and indivisible.

There is only one Christ - the living Christ who is the manifestation of God, the manifestation of Love.
Christ is God revealing Himself to the world.

As a manifestation of God, Christ cannot be separated from Him, cannot be considered apart from Him.

And when I speak of Christ, I do not mean an abstract principle, but rather an actual incarnation of Love. Love is the greatest reality and not an abstraction. It has form, content and meaning.

Christ - whatever conception people have of him as "historical," as "cosmic," as "mystical," - gave to the earth the fullest expression of Love.

This is because as an historic personality, as a cosmic essence, and as a mystical experience, Christ is and remains the most perfect expression of Love.

Indeed, no other man on earth before Christ had greater love than His.

There is neither in the cosmos without, nor in the mystic depths of the soul within, a fuller expression of Love than that which we personify in Christ.

Therefore, how are the words "historical," "cosmic," and "mystical" to be understood?
Manifested on the earth at a certain historical moment as the ideal man, as an example of the real man, Christ is "historical." And the times in which he lived record an bear witness to Him: "Behold, the man! Behold, the true man in whom Love, Wisdom, and Truth live, and who applies them."

When he is experienced in the inward depths, he is "mystical," and when he is comprehended and known as God manifested in the world, he is "cosmic."

The physical side of Christ is all of humanity united in one body. All human souls in which Christ lives, united into one - this is the physical aspect of Christ.

All angels, gathered into the heart of Christ, represent his spiritual aspect.

And all divine beings, united in the mind of Christ, are his divine aspect.

This is the "cosmic" Christ, God manifested in the world.

That is why the mystic sees Christ everywhere - as the great Brother of humanity, the archetype of man, the First-Born in the world, the beginning of the human race, the beginning of human evolution. The First-Born who developed and manifested all divine virtues, who applied all divine laws.

The mystic sees Christ as the First-Born who passed every trial and sacrificed all for his brothers.
Mountains, fields, springs, rivers, and seas, with all the natural wealth hidden therein - all this is an expression of this Great Brother.

But this is a great mystery, for the understanding of which thousands of years of unremitting work are necessary.

Thus does one need to conceive of Christ in his comprehensiveness.

He is One, although people consider him sometimes as "historical," sometimes as "cosmic," or as "mystical."

All these words must come to life in the true understanding of Christ as the manifested and revealed Love of God; they must not remain dry concepts, prisons for human thought.

Indeed, is not the "historical" Christ, who came to earth two thousand years ago, a prison for the minds of many Christians? Where in the Scripture did Christ two thousand years ago speak of himself as of an historical personality? He speaks of himself as Spirit, as one who will remain on earth "to the end of the ages," that is until the epoch of violence and evil, now in its last days, comes to an end.

"Go and preach," he says to his disciples, "and I shall be with you to the end of the ages."

One of the worst delusions is to think that Christ is in heaven, that he sits and waits for the Last Judgment, when he will begin to judge the living and the dead.

The truth is that Christ has never left the earth. Remember his words: "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

Christ is he Who has inspired, is inspiring, and will inspire the "historical," "cosmic," and "mystical" life of the earth and humanity.

Without Christ, there could be no history.

Without Christ, there could be no "cosmos," no organized and established world.

Without Christ, there could be no "mystical" life.

He is the great inspirer of all revelations in all times. He is the unseen moving force behind the whole spiritual life of humanity.

The Scripture, in which Christ is the central figure, is a witness to this.

Christ himself hints at this with the words: "Moses and the prophets wrote about me."

Moses, in a general sense, comprises all the spiritual leaders of humanity, all scientists, philosophers, writers, poets, artists and musicians who prepare the minds of men for the understanding of Christ, the divine Truth.

However transitory their works seem, however changeable their theories, they are not arbitrary; they are created under the influence of a universal law of the Spirit, working in mankind in a special way.
All those men, therefore, worked for the manifold upliftment of humanity; they prepared the way for the coming of Christ.

It is not easy for a great Spirit such as Christ to come among men. Men had to work hard in the course of several thousand years in order that Christ might appear among them. It is not easy to come to the earth.

But with his descent to the earth, Christ opened a new epoch in the evolution of humanity. He indicated the only way by which the human soul can ascend to God.

This is why he said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

The Way: in the broadest sense of the word, this is the movement of the Spirit towards an intelligent application of the laws of Nature.

The Life: this is the harmonious organization of the elements and the development of the forces in the Divine soul.

The Truth: this is the manifestation of the One God, who creates the conditions for the development of all living beings.

Coming from the Divine world of Truth and descending to the material world, Christ connects human souls to the world of Truth, where the great aims of every life are hidden.

There must necessarily be a link to unite human souls sunken in matter, with God. Only Christ can form that link - only Christ can unite men with God.

He came down from the Divine world, bringing life from the world of Truth, and ascended back to it, and in this way he indicated the path leading from temporal life to the eternal.

"And this is life eternal," says Christ, "that they should know Thee the only true God, and him who Thou didst send Jesus Christ."

To know God is to know the seeds of the Spirit - the conditions, the powers, and the laws which sustain it, and according to which this wonderful order of things is built.

And Christ is the intelligent beginning who comes from the One God, bringing life to all beings, guiding them and sustaining them, and linking them to the initial center of all that is.

Christ is the way of this intelligent movement of souls which leads them to life eternal in Truth.
And when Christ is asked why he came to earth, he replies, "To this end was I born and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the Truth."

These words, however, are a mathematical formula. The question of the coming of Christ is one of the deepest questions in human life. Many people think that it is very easy to reply to this question. They say that Christ came to the earth in order to suffer and to save humanity.

The coming of Christ to the earth is not a matter of suffering. The suffering was a secondary occurrence in the life of Christ - it is far from determining this very important moment in the history of humanity.

Salvation, in the way in which it is usually understood, is also a partial conception of this great event.

But today, all the preachers say that Christ came to the earth to save humanity. If Christ had saved the world in such a mechanical way as people believe, and if they were truly saved, then they would not live in a way so contrary to the spirit of Christ's teaching.

Clearly, the idea of salvation has an entirely different meaning. It is not where people look for it, nor does it come mechanically as they think.

Christ brought to the earth the science of the soul. He pointed out the path by which human souls can know God and obtain eternal life.

The gate of that path is Love. He who passes through this gate will find himself on that royal road where great deeds await him.

Many great souls came to the earth before Christ, but they were unable to cope with the difficult task of uplifting humanity. Christ had to come to earth in order to solve this essential and very important problem, and to show to men a proven way by which they, too, might solve it.

Before Christ, God sent into his field his servants - the prophets and the saints - but they were not able to accomplish the task in the way in which it should have been done.

When Christ, "the Son of God," came to the earth, the workers of all of heaven united in his name in order to complete the work which had been begun.

It is written in the Gospel that "God so loved the world that he gave his only- begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but should have eternal life."

The Son is the Word, the Rational, the Divine, the only one who could restore harmony to the world and the connection of the human soul with God.

Christ could restore that connection, he could influence humanity as a whole, because he himself was connected with the great, mighty One.

When the Gospel speaks of the descent of the Spirit upon Jesus, it refers to the union of Jesus with the collective Spirit of the world of reason, whereby the realization of a Divine idea became possible on the earth.

This is a law on the earth - in order to accomplish the work of God, a man on the earth must unite with a being in heaven. In this case, the being was the collective divine Spirit.

From this point of view, Christ is a collective spirit. He exists as a unit and at the same time he is a collective spirit. He is the sum total of all Sons of God whose hearts and souls are fountains of life and love.

All Sons of God, united in one, all intelligent souls who live in Divine communion - all this is Christ.
The descent of Christ to the earth is the most important event in the history of humanity. It is a unique event in its content and meaning. The fundamental idea of human life is connected with it - the idea of immortality, the idea of eternal life. And the efforts of all human existence have as their ultimate goal the attaining of immortality and entering into eternal life.

"And this is life eternal," says Christ, "that they should know Thee, the only true God, and him whom Thou didst send, Jesus Christ."

Know God, and know Christ.

Did people know Christ when he appeared two thousand years ago? Do they know him today? When truth comes into the world, it is not clothed in royal garments, but rather in modest apparel.

Thus Christ appeared two thousand years ago in a simple form, in which men could not recognize him. But such are the laws of this world.

In this modest apparel, seemingly a man like all other men, even his disciples did not know Him completely. Only three of them at the transfiguration saw Christ's "face," His inner self. In this inner light they saw Him and recognized Him as he was among the angels.

For the jewish people, Christ was "the son of Joseph, the son of the carpenter." For the scribes and the Pharisees, He was a blasphemer, a self-styled messiah who called himself "Son of God." He did not come from among them, He was not taught by them.

Where, in fact, did Christ study? Everything that he did testified to his wide learning. Yet, even today there are people who think that Christ was a common, uneducated person. This is not true. Christ himself, addressing his listeners, said, "If I told you earthly things and you believe not, how shall you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" When He spoke of "heavenly things," Christ referred to the great mysteries of the sun. However, He understood "earthly things" as well - He knew the Cabal, and the philosophies of the Eastern nations and of the Greeks, as well as the sciences of the time.

Indeed, Christ had no need to study in human schools. His entire earthly life was in itself objective learning for Him.

His life was a source of new experience, a field for the application of those sublime principles and great laws, whose functions He had known in the invisible world. Due to his awakened consciousness and his connection with the invisible world, Christ was always able to obtain knowledge directly therefrom.

And when He prayed, prayer was a conversation with the world of reason.

Through prayer, Christ communicated with the invisible world, with all the hierarchies there and with God. Through prayer the invisible world revealed to Christ that great lesson which He had to learn on earth, and disclosed to him the problem He had to solve in the environment of earthly life.

After having solved his difficult problem, Christ understood through experience that the only way to save humanity is through Love. Only then did He fully comprehend the profound meaning of all of his suffering.

However, to men, regardless of what they say, the sufferings of Christ, his crucifixion and his disgraceful death, still remain one of the deepest mysteries.

Why did Christ, the greatest soul that ever came to the earth, the greatest character ever manifested, why did this good, intelligent, and strong man have to undergo such a tragic death?
The Scripture says that it was thus "written" - and nothing more.

Others maintain that it was necessary for this to happen so that the world might be saved.
But Christ himself says that He came into the world to bear witness to the Truth.

One thing can be said with certainty - Christ was crucified because Love did not outwardly participate in his life. And where Love does not participate, the most severe sufferings and the greatest tragedies occur. Love does not cause them, but the competition for love creates them. Love in itself always and everywhere brings light, peace and joy.

In any case, we see that Christ's crucifixion was permitted.

On the cross Christ underwent what might be called ideological-mystical suffering, the deepest and the most intense suffering which a human soul can undergo.

He had to drink from the cup of suffering to the last drop - that cup into which were gathered all the bitter dregs of the past.

But during this profound and intensified suffering, all of the secrets of the past were disclosed to him. And conscious of the great importance of the moment, after the inner struggle in the garden of Gethsemane, Christ said, "It was for this hour that I came."

Through the great alchemy of Love, Christ converted the poisons gathered in that cup, and thus destroyed violence forever.

And indeed could not Christ - a strong man of genius who knew his high origin, who foresaw everything, who knew what was about to happen - have averted the sufferings which awaited Him?

He had the choice either to call forth the "legions of angels" and with their help to annihilate both the Jewish nation and the Roman Empire - that is, to use the method of the past, Moses and Elijah's method of violence and the sword, which was the method of the old magi and adepts - or to accept the cup and the cross and to overcome them through the power of Love.

Christ chose the second, a unique experiment on earth.

And indeed, if Christ had feared the suffering, if He had eared the cross on which later He was crucified, or the nails with which He was nailed to it, or the spear with which He was pierced, He would not have provided a new and essential solution to the difficult task of uplifting the human soul.

He dissolved the insults, and the lashes of the whip, and the cross, and the nails, and the spear, with the fire of Love - the only fire that can melt the weapons of violence. The experiment proved successful.

Thus Christ solved a problem upon which the future of all of humanity depended. Thus He opened the path of salvation to those suffering souls for whom He came.

For those simple but noble souls who had the courage to put their faith in Him, and not for the learned, the powerful and the religious people of His age, did Christ lay down His life so that they might live in the Love which He gave them.

Something very great is hidden in the sufferings of Christ. They constitute the hidden side of Christ's life, of which men know nothing.

And when I speak of the sufferings of Christ, two great virtues of Christ come to mind - His unprecedented patience, and His humility. Through these, He endured all the abuses, insults and offenses which men inflicted upon Him. Christ endured all of these and remained silent, calm and unmoved, as though nothing were happening. Not a tear fell from His eyes.

This is great patience, this is self-mastery, this is Love.

This is a rock which nothing can shatter.

Christ's crucifixion was a tragedy, but this tragedy had its solution in the resurrection.

Christ rose from the dead, and through his resurrection He conquered death. And as in his sufferings the secrets of the past were revealed to Him so in the resurrection He received the revelation of the future.

Christ is truly a strong man, a mighty spirit, a hero. He overcame everything - tortures, the cross and the grave.

Christ did not carry the wooden cross to the end. He carried it only to a certain place and then He laid it on the ground. People think that He laid it down because He was exhausted beneath its weight.

Christ was not a weakling. He could have carried the cross, but He laid it down in order to point out to humanity what was in store for them. He implied, "I can carry the cross of the sufferings of living men, but I do not wish to carry a wooden cross."

But present-day Christians still carry and kiss the wooden cross, disdained by Christ himself.
Having cast the wooden cross upon the ground, Christ stood up, and upright he made his way to Golgotha. They nailed him to the cross. But He did not remain there long. He alone unnailed himself. How? He left his body and went to Joseph of Arimathea.

Christ was buried and His tomb was sealed. But He also left the tomb. He did not want to leave his body in the tomb, because it was alive. He himself resurrected it.

The angel that caused his death took his soul to hell, but Christ did not remain there long. His entrance into hell caused a revolution - He activated all of hell's inhabitants and set them free. Do not think that after his resurrection Christ was alone - in hell He was the leader of a host of angels who emptied hell of all of its prisoners.

Thus Christ proved that the strong man cannot remain nailed to a cross, nor can he be sealed in a grave. The strong man never dies - he is resurrected and he gives life to others.

Christ was the heart of God, and that is why He resurrected. God's heart cannot die. It returned whence it came. But throughout all of this tragedy enacted on Golgotha, new blood was infused into the exhausted veins of humanity, and a new impulse was brought to the divine circulation of life.

When He came to the earth two thousand years ago, Christ revealed to us only one side of his nature.

We see Christ then in humiliation and grief, in sufferings and trials. We see him as a hero of redemption.

People do not yet know Christ in his glory, in his divine might and power.

Christ is strong and mighty now!

In the past, the hands of Christ were nailed. Today no one can nail these hands - the nails would be melted at once! In the past they crucified Christ, but today there is not a tree large enough on which He could be crucified.

Christ cannot be crucified a second time.

This Christ is coming now to visit the minds and hearts of men. He will demolish all prisons; He will obliterate all false teachings - everything that destroys man's mind and heart, that brings confusion and anarchy, that paralyzes human life. He is the living Christ who brings life, light and freedom to all souls, who uplifts and awakens in them love toward all.

When I say that Christ is coming now, some might think that He will come outwardly. Christ will not come outwardly, He will come neither in the form of a man, nor in any other form.

When the rays of the sun enter into your homes, does that mean that the sun itself has visited you?

Remember, Christ is e manifestation of divine Love. And He will come as an inner light in the minds and hearts of men. This light will draw all toward Christ as around a great center.

The opening of men's minds and hearts, and the inner acceptance of Christ - this will be the second coming of Christ to the earth.

If they do not accept Him in this way, people will continue to live without love, in suffering and misery, in outer beliefs, superstitions, and delusions.

Captives of those outer beliefs, many religious people today err when they say, "Christ brought good tidings two thousand years ago. He said all that He had to say, and now He has gone to heaven, where He will remain until the Day of Judgment, when He will come again to judge the living and the dead."

But I say to you: Christ did not preach the good tidings in time and space!

We do not consider Christ and His teaching as something that is past.

We do not consider Christ and His teaching as something that will come in the future.

For us, Christ and His teaching are an everlasting present!

Therefore, it was not only during his three years of reaching that Christ spoke to us; He has not ceased speaking during all of these two thousand years. And if it were possible to restore all that He said in those three years to the people of that time, and if it were possible also to restore what He said in the course of these two thousand years, men would have very valuable knowledge.

But only very little of what Christ said during those three years of preaching has come down to us - only fragments. Many of the Epistles of Paul, as well as of the other apostles, remain hidden from the world. But some day they will come to light. Even now they are being disclosed, but only to advanced pupils.

On the other hand, do you think that Christ divulged all of his teaching? In comparison with what He possessed, Christ gave very little to his contemporaries. The men of that time were not ready for science. Therefore, He spoke to them in parables. Christ did not want to put his weapon in the hands of the ignorant, so that they might turn it against Him.

Do you think that if Christ came now He would speak as He spoke two thousand years ago? Christ will speak today in an entirely different manner.

First of all, He will preach about the great science of Love, and the methods of its application. He will preach about the path of pupilage, brotherhood and service. The law of evolution requires it today.

And now the Great Master addresses himself to all awakened souls, proclaiming to them the fundamentals of the new gospel:

That all be diligent pupils,
good brothers, true and loyal servers!

Only those who are diligent pupils, good brothers, and true servers can create the new culture in which Christ will live in every man and among all people.

Today, Christ has no need of ordinary believers, religious people who fight one another, nor of rulers and priests, but rather of real men, creators of the new - pupils, brothers, and servers. Today Christ does not want men who constantly crucify Him within themselves, but men who will welcome Him to live within them and among them, who will be one with Him.

Today, Christ proclaims a culture without crucifixions, the culture of resurrection!

We nave seen well the results of the present culture created by those who crucified Christ.

It is time for the foundations of a new culture to be laid, a culture built not by people who worship the crucified Christ, but by men-brothers in whom lives the resurrected Christ, the living Christ of Love.
The foundation of this culture will be Love.

Love is the only power that can make of men diligent pupils, good brothers, true and loyal servers, builders of the new life.

This is the "new" which Christ brings to humanity today.

This is the Word of the Great White Brotherhood; this is what the Master speaks.

And will not many believers, then, who call themselves Christians, be enticed by His word? And will they recognize Him?

They will continue to argue about the "crucified," the "historical" and the "cosmic" Christ; about the Christ as He is considered by the various churches, and the spirit of his Living Word will remain strange to them.

Therefore, I say to you: Leave aside these definitions and differentiations of Christ! Know that there is only one Christ, the Christ of great Love, who at present is active in the world and in the souls of men.

I speak to you of that Christ, and not of the "historical" or the "crucified" Christ. Men know Him well as an historical personage, but they do not know Him as Living Love.

I speak to you of the living Christ, of that Christ who has life within himself, who brings the living knowledge and light, who brings the truth and freedom; of that Christ who teaches all methods for the building of rational life.

He is the great Christ, who is called the Head of the Great Universal Brotherhood.
All great souls know Him, and they never argue about who and what He is, what He was, where He is now, what place He holds in the "hierarchy of masters," and so on.

They never argue because they know very well what place Christ has in the Whole, just as they know the place of the other great men who have appeared and are appearing in the world.

This is the Christ that men must come to know today! They must see Him - see and know Him! Many men wish to convince us that we may be true Christians without seeing and knowing Christ inwardly. But I maintain that if a man does not see Christ, nothing will come of him.

In order to see Christ, one must have a mind, a heart, a soul, and a spirit like His. All those to whom Christ appeared before they reached that stage, fell down with faces toward the ground. And what can a fallen man see?

Man must drink from the source itself and not from the river, which is muddy because many other additives entered into it.

Follow the path that leads to this source - the path is difficult and long, but you will drink living water from the spring itself, and it will refresh your mind and heart forever.

Spacious views, unseen until then, will be opened to your sight.

On that mountain where the living water flows forth, you will hear the voice of God.

Do not ask to remain there, but come down to your brothers. Come down and put into practice, like a pupil, like a brother, and like a server, the Living Word of your Heavenly Father who draws you to Him by the threads of His Love.

These threads are in the hands of Christ, the manifested God of Love.


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What are you all a bunch of New Age people?
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"It is in reference to a cosmic principle that ‘the Son’, the second person of the Holy Trinity, is called the ‘only son’ of God. This cosmic principle has been given the name of Christ, and through his work, Jesus identified with this cosmic principle.

Just because we use the same words ‘father’ and ‘son’, we must not confuse human realities with cosmic realities. God the Father is the principle creator of all that exists, and his Son, whom Christians call the Christ, is his first emanation. It is this Christic principle which must descend into each human soul by the power of the Holy Spirit, in order for each of us to become a true son or daughter of God.

Jesus was a conduit for the Christ, he was the voice of the Christ, he served the Christ and he identified with the Christ, but he was not the Christ. As a cosmic principle, the Christ can incarnate in a human being who has prepared himself to receive it, but no human being, no matter how exceptional, can be the one and only incarnation of God. This makes no sense."

"To understand the true dimension of Communion, it is necessary to go far back in time, all the way to Melchizedek who, for the first time, brought bread and wine to Abraham. For many Christians today, the consecration of bread and wine by the priest represents nothing more than the commemoration of an historic event which took place in Jerusalem one day 2000 years ago. It is true that Jesus said to his disciples after having shared bread and wine with them: ‘Do this in remembrance of me.’ But merely to preserve this memory is useless and does not exempt us from going deeper into the extraordinary symbolic meaning Jesus attributed to this act. Why didn’t he create a different ritual? He could have done so, but he repeated what Melchizedek had done before him. This not only reveals the importance he attributed to the two symbols of bread and wine, but also his wish to emphasize his membership in the lineage, the order, of Melchizedek. "

"Each year, on December 25, Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus, and in all the churches a crib is set up for him. The child is there lying on a pile of straw while Mary and Joseph watch over him, but there is also an ass and an ox. We can never forget the ass and the ox - they are so closely linked to the birth of Jesus. Why? Because this representation is symbolic and corresponds to some processes that take place in human beings. The stable represents the physical body. The ox represents sexual energy. As for the ass, it represents what we call 'the old Adam', a self-centered, headstrong and stubborn but good servant.

When man decides to improve himself so that Christ may be born within him, he comes in conflict with the forces of his lower nature and his sexuality. It is these forces that he must master and put to work for the divine child. That is why we say that, in the stable, the ass and the ox breathed on the child Jesus and warmed him with their breath... When human beings succeed in transforming within themselves the ass and the ox, then they can warm and nourish the newborn child. All those who have succeeded in bringing Christ to birth within themselves will be served by the forces of their lower nature and their sexuality, for these are extraordinarily useful energies, provided we can harness them to a job."

"Jesus came to tell human beings that God is their Father. But instead of reflecting and looking into themselves to find traces of that divine filiation, they limit themselves to a superficial, childish interpretation of Jesus' words. God is their Father? But, this is extraordinary! If our Father is all-powerful and overflowing with love, we can ask everything of Him! So they behave like spoiled, capricious, demanding children, convinced that God will always be understanding and indulgent, whatever they do. They will approach Him, covered with mud, and will only have to say: 'Dear God, I have been wading in the swamps, but I believe in You. Forgive me, for I know that You are kind and merciful', and God will enfold them in His embrace. No, a few words and pious sentiments are not enough. God will send them away, telling them to first clean themselves up. "

"Even if what is written in the Gospels on the subject of Jesus’ birth does not correspond to historical reality, it is absolutely true from the symbolic and esoteric point of view, and this is what is important for us. When the Christ child is born in the soul of the disciple, the celestial spirits place themselves in his service, for he is a royal child, and all heaven comes to admire him and bring him what he needs. Whether or not a star, angels, shepherds and a manger with an ass and ox really existed does not matter; from a symbolic point of view it is all true. Each time the Christ is born in a soul, the star is there, the angels sing, and the wise men come and bow down, offering gifts."

"Christians know that the communion bread and wine represent the body and the blood of Christ, but few of them have looked into these symbols, which correspond to the two great cosmic principles - the masculine (bread) and the feminine (wine) - at work in all regions of the universe. Bread and wine are two solar symbols. We must look beyond the bread and wine of the Last Supper and see the sun's two properties of light and warmth, which bring about life. The light of the sun is wisdom, and its warmth is love. That is what Jesus was implying when he said, 'Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life.' Therefore we must eat the body of Christ - wisdom - and drink his blood - love - in order to be transformed.

It is so important to go deeper into the meaning of the images and rites presented to us by religions! The day Christians become accustomed to taking communion each morning with that great host, the rising sun, and with the wine of its warmth, they will experience eternal life. For the sun is alive."

"By associating itself primarily with the sacrifice of Jesus, Christianity has stressed the painful and tragic aspect of the cross. In reality, we must recognize in the cross a significance far greater in magnitude. In universal symbolism, the cross is the matter into which the Christ, the Cosmic Spirit, descends in order to bring it to life. In human beings, of course, the spirit can be engulfed by matter. If a person does nothing to animate his matter, it eventually becomes his tomb, and unfortunately that is what happens to so many people who allow the spirit to be buried within them. Matter is the cross upon which the spirit is continually sacrificed, but this sacrifice is meaningful only if matter is transformed and becomes purer and more alive. "

"People who work with the principles of Christ, principles that are eternal and unchangeable, belong to the true Universal White Brotherhood. They destroy nothing, they do not bring a new religion, but they do abandon forms that have lost their meaning over the centuries.

People who cling on to form prove only they have not understood the principles. They imagine that the form will save them. Well no, because in form we go to sleep. If we want to progress we must not rely on form so much, but work with principles instead. In his second epistle to the Corinthians, St. Paul wrote: '... for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.' Laziness makes people cling on to the letter, on to form. The spirit periodically breaks the forms to renew them, because it no longer recognizes itself in them. The Universal White Brotherhood is not, therefore, a new religion, it is the religion of Christ, but presented in a different form, appropriate to our times."

"Initiates work at length to make their body a dwelling-place for the light. And then, just as the sun sends out its rays into space, so they spread light around them through their vibrations, their emanations, their gaze, their words and their gestures. Without their intending it or being aware of it, the natural radiance that comes spontaneously from the depths of their being embraces all creatures, and these, good and evil alike, receive it to the degree they are able to.

Some artists have represented Christ in their paintings surrounded with rays, meaning that through his consciousness he is present and acting in all regions of the universe. The Christ, the cosmic principle, spreads its light everywhere, fully. It leaves no place for darkness."

"Evil rises up against good, it fights good, but in reality evil only exists insofar as the Creator has given evil the right to do so. Evil will disappear as soon as the Creator decides it should be so. Good is eternal and evil is transient, but we, human beings, do not have the power to make it disappear. Only the Lord Himself possesses this power. He does not need us, human beings - so weak, puny and ignorant - to help Him win over evil; indeed our weapons are so very ineffective. So, what can we do? Since only God can oppose evil, we must let Him in, let heaven penetrate us, manifest itself in us and work through us. Through us, God will see to it that good takes the place of evil."

"We give ourselves a goal, and to reach this goal, we have to follow a certain path and apply certain methods. But in reality, the goal and the method are one and the same. When Jesus said: 'I am the way, the truth, and the life', he was identifying with the path, the way. He walked on the path and he was that path. And those who follow Jesus, those who walk on this path, must themselves become the path. They think about God, they advance toward God, and they themselves must become God. That is, they must identify with their goal. In this way, the goal becomes the method. And the method comprises all the exercises which enable us to advance, so that one day we become one with God and are able to say, like Jesus: 'My Father and I are one'."

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Nice thought but most people live in a delusional world of made up beliefs that protect them from anxiety. Jesus ( who I do believe existed based upon the Buddhist documentation that he visited Srinigar)tried to wake up people and got crucified for doing so. As a society loses its values and culture, the people become more animal like. The right thing to do would be to vote for Ron Paul but do you think the sheep will do it ? NO as they fear the unknown and also fear real change.
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Jesus was a conduit for the Christ, he was the voice of the Christ, he served the Christ and he identified with the Christ, but he was not the Christ. As a cosmic principle, the Christ can incarnate in a human being who has prepared himself to receive it, but no human being, no matter how exceptional, can be the one and only incarnation of God. This makes no sense."

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Oh good grief! The most screwed up group of people I've ever seen!
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Rebels of stupidity possibly.

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