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WTF ---> GOP establishment tries to disqualify Ron Paul supporters from Republican Convention

 
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I suppose this might be a wake-up call to reorganize the party from the ground up.
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I know it will never happen but I would love to see a three-way debate...
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I'd love to see it too. Ron Paul would get slaughtered. Can you imagine that stuttering idiot trying to argue with someone as smart as Romney?
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


Yea... you keep proving yourself to be an idiot.


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"But-but-but-but I think black people should go back into slavery and-and-and Iran should nuke Is-is-israel." - Ron Paul.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


FYI, the stuttering attacks are called "ad hominem" - a logical fallacy - you could say I used one when I called you an idiot, but you're actually an idiot, so...

And yours isn't even a very good attack...
[link to www.stutteringhelp.org]

And the points you try to make aren't even true...

But please, do go on...
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I'd love to see it too. Ron Paul would get slaughtered. Can you imagine that stuttering idiot trying to argue with someone as smart as Romney?
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


Yea... you keep proving yourself to be an idiot.


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"But-but-but-but I think black people should go back into slavery and-and-and Iran should nuke Is-is-israel." - Ron Paul.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


FYI, the stuttering attacks are called "ad hominem" - a logical fallacy - you could say I used one when I called you an idiot, but you're actually an idiot, so...

And yours isn't even a very good attack...
[link to www.stutteringhelp.org]

And the points you try to make aren't even true...

But please, do go on...
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Eh, those establishment fools love their party too much to care about what's actually factual, and right.
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Yea... you keep proving yourself to be an idiot.


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"But-but-but-but I think black people should go back into slavery and-and-and Iran should nuke Is-is-israel." - Ron Paul.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


I already warned you that lying kills all your credibility. Now we can never trust anything you say about any topic ever.

Typical, don't have any real dirt on him, so you just make up slanderous stories.

Good try.
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Cry cry cry. It's no shocker to anyone here that Paul is a horrible debater that can't get out a word.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


I'm glad it fares well for you to place as leader of the free world the person who speaks and debates the best.

I'm also glad I lean towards the one who thinks the best.
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there is no place in this country for liberty...

duh, get with the new world order
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I was Ron Paul all the way... he delivered some 3000 babies in his medical practice.

Romney apparently helped burn the bodies of aborted babies with his company.

We all know where BHO stands on the issue of life.

I think Ron Paul was to squeaky clean for handlers or the media to black mail or control him so they shut him out.

Our local caucus was a disappointing joke... almost a preplanned outcome.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


yep. he was systematically removed so they could keep two identical candidates running simultaneously.

romney and obama work for the same plan
 Quoting: Salt


I could live with Ron Paul's domestic plan. He (domestically) would be the best candidate. No contest.

His foreign policy is an unmitigated disaster. He is either naive or crazy.
Every time we abandon the world to its own devices we pay for it later.

Need to revise this a little bit. After looking at his foreign policy positions:
Mostly nonintervention is good. Still thinking through some of his other positions... Might be more pro-Paul than I thought. Still would like to retain our strategic foreign bases.



It would be possible to support Paul if he would moderate his foreign policy. Like I said - domestically he would bring us out of the Obama recession in short order.

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Ron Paul wears dirty diapers.
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Let's see.. he suspended his campaign months back and has lost every single primary, coming in dead last. Obama now acknowledges his opponent as Romney. He doesn't even have a position at the Republican Convention. And now he wants to thrust himself into the limelight like this.

Is there anything that the Paul campaign wont try? He's already tried to steal our votes.
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And during the GOP nomination race, when Ron Paul was most visible, he never garnered more than 15% preference in dozens of independent polls. Not even one of them.

So what sort of democracy is it that would place a person with such minority support into the presidency. It doesn't matter if you think he is a saviour or the last chance for America, or that Romney or Obama are devils incarnate - Paul has never had more than 15% popularity and didn't even win a single primary vote.
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Let's see.. he suspended his campaign months back and has lost every single primary, coming in dead last. Obama now acknowledges his opponent as Romney. He doesn't even have a position at the Republican Convention. And now he wants to thrust himself into the limelight like this.

Is there anything that the Paul campaign wont try? He's already tried to steal our votes.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


And during the GOP nomination race, when Ron Paul was most visible, he never garnered more than 15% preference in dozens of independent polls. Not even one of them.

So what sort of democracy is it that would place a person with such minority support into the presidency. It doesn't matter if you think he is a saviour or the last chance for America, or that Romney or Obama are devils incarnate - Paul has never had more than 15% popularity and didn't even win a single primary vote.
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you believe the polls?
cruise
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I know it will never happen but I would love to see a three-way debate...
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I'd love to see it too. Ron Paul would get slaughtered. Can you imagine that stuttering idiot trying to argue with someone as smart as Romney?
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


lolatu

Your name is perfect!
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lol
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Let's see.. he suspended his campaign months back and has lost every single primary, coming in dead last. Obama now acknowledges his opponent as Romney. He doesn't even have a position at the Republican Convention. And now he wants to thrust himself into the limelight like this.

Is there anything that the Paul campaign wont try? He's already tried to steal our votes.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


And during the GOP nomination race, when Ron Paul was most visible, he never garnered more than 15% preference in dozens of independent polls. Not even one of them.

So what sort of democracy is it that would place a person with such minority support into the presidency. It doesn't matter if you think he is a saviour or the last chance for America, or that Romney or Obama are devils incarnate - Paul has never had more than 15% popularity and didn't even win a single primary vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22397006

Technically, the USA is a representative republic still, and not a direct democracy. So technically, the delegate count is what nominates the candidate for the presidential race, even if it does not fall in line with the popular vote.

So, to answer your question, a representative republic is the sort of democracy that could theoretically nominate a minority to the presidential election.

Since we all know the presidential election and the primaries are rigged these days, can we really trust the polls now? Just how hard is it to buy off "independent" polls once the entire MSM is bought off?

The party national committees (_NC) (and their masters) are the fiddler, and the polling stations are the fiddle, and the People are the strings, and the bow are the hand-picked candidates, that all get played as Rome continues to burn down around your feet. Do you hear the sound of the music?

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Yea... you keep proving yourself to be an idiot.


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"But-but-but-but I think black people should go back into slavery and-and-and Iran should nuke Is-is-israel." - Ron Paul.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


I already warned you that lying kills all your credibility. Now we can never trust anything you say about any topic ever.

Typical, don't have any real dirt on him, so you just make up slanderous stories.

Good try.
 Quoting: Charlie Scene


Cry cry cry. It's no shocker to anyone here that Paul is a horrible debater that can't get out a word.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


You are an NWO teason-tard and can go thoroughly f yourself in the dumper.
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well it's their party, they can do what they want with it, democracy in action ya know...why would you invite anyone who doesn't follow the party line?
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Having spent years closely associated with Thatcher's campaigns in the UK, I can assure you that Romney's campaign is an utter trainwreck, and every act like this is making him ever more unelectable. And if he does make it passt the winning post, he's going to be hated and disrespected from the start.

No-one can wion an election in the US dependent on the "big business" vote, particularly in an era where diversity of corporation has nosedived with business dominated by vast conglomerates - the bosses might represent a lot of wealth but stuff all in the way of votes.

Maggie Thatcher understood this and a central plank of her campaigning in 1979 was helping small businesses - indeed, statisitcally, the social groups who benefited most in percentage terms during her time in office were:-
1. Builders who owned their own businesses
2. Antique dealers and second hand shops.
3. Bookbinders.

Not as one would expect, multimillionaires and the captains of industry.

Likewise, whereas in North America, people arwe often divided into College Grads and the rest will be guaranteed losers, in Thatcher's era, there was athird option - if you don't make it to college, no probs, just start your own businesse, and the Government will create an environment where you can flourish, even if you are not brigh academically.

THe same is true for the US.

Romney needs the votes of the angry youth who are backing Ron Paul. By treating them like shit, he is writing off the block of voters precisely those that he needs.

If Obama wins, the country will disintegrate financially in weeks. If Romney wins, he'll be seen as a George Bush on steroids from day one and EVERYTHING HE TRIES WILL FEEL LIKE SWIMMING THROUGH CONCRETE.
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Let's see.. he suspended his campaign months back and has lost every single primary, coming in dead last. Obama now acknowledges his opponent as Romney. He doesn't even have a position at the Republican Convention. And now he wants to thrust himself into the limelight like this.

Is there anything that the Paul campaign wont try? He's already tried to steal our votes.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


And during the GOP nomination race, when Ron Paul was most visible, he never garnered more than 15% preference in dozens of independent polls. Not even one of them.

So what sort of democracy is it that would place a person with such minority support into the presidency. It doesn't matter if you think he is a saviour or the last chance for America, or that Romney or Obama are devils incarnate - Paul has never had more than 15% popularity and didn't even win a single primary vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22397006

Technically, the USA is a representative republic still, and not a direct democracy. So technically, the delegate count is what nominates the candidate for the presidential race, even if it does not fall in line with the popular vote.

So, to answer your question, a representative republic is the sort of democracy that could theoretically nominate a minority to the presidential election.

Since we all know the presidential election and the primaries are rigged these days, can we really trust the polls now? Just how hard is it to buy off "independent" polls once the entire MSM is bought off?

The party national committees (_NC) (and their masters) are the fiddler, and the polling stations are the fiddle, and the People are the strings, and the bow are the hand-picked candidates, that all get played as Rome continues to burn down around your feet. Do you hear the sound of the music?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22388847


There is that stupid "unbound delegates are fine because we have a republic" argument. You think that the Founding Fathers would want someone who has 2% support nationwide to be the candidate of a major political party? To even suggest such logic makes sense helps me realize how dangerous Paultards really are.
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Let's see.. he suspended his campaign months back and has lost every single primary, coming in dead last. Obama now acknowledges his opponent as Romney. He doesn't even have a position at the Republican Convention. And now he wants to thrust himself into the limelight like this.

Is there anything that the Paul campaign wont try? He's already tried to steal our votes.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


And during the GOP nomination race, when Ron Paul was most visible, he never garnered more than 15% preference in dozens of independent polls. Not even one of them.

So what sort of democracy is it that would place a person with such minority support into the presidency. It doesn't matter if you think he is a saviour or the last chance for America, or that Romney or Obama are devils incarnate - Paul has never had more than 15% popularity and didn't even win a single primary vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22397006

Technically, the USA is a representative republic still, and not a direct democracy. So technically, the delegate count is what nominates the candidate for the presidential race, even if it does not fall in line with the popular vote.

So, to answer your question, a representative republic is the sort of democracy that could theoretically nominate a minority to the presidential election.

Since we all know the presidential election and the primaries are rigged these days, can we really trust the polls now? Just how hard is it to buy off "independent" polls once the entire MSM is bought off?

The party national committees (_NC) (and their masters) are the fiddler, and the polling stations are the fiddle, and the People are the strings, and the bow are the hand-picked candidates, that all get played as Rome continues to burn down around your feet. Do you hear the sound of the music?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22388847


There is that stupid "unbound delegates are fine because we have a republic" argument. You think that the Founding Fathers would want someone who has 2% support nationwide to be the candidate of a major political party? To even suggest such logic makes sense helps me realize how dangerous Paultards really are.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb

Talk to the Founders. It was their idea.

Looking at the bigger picture since you mentioned the Founding Fathers, I think if they were alive today, we'd have a decidedly different governance on our hands than we do, or they would all be dead or in prison. I think they would align themselves more closely to Ron Paul than to either of the establishment selections.

I think their feelings on the matter were clearly illustrated in their Declaration of Independence.
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I thought Ron Paul withdrew from the race weeks ago. I saw a letter supposedly from him to that effect.

So what's this at this late date? Don't get it.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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I know it will never happen but I would love to see a three-way debate...
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I'd love to see it too. Ron Paul would get slaughtered. Can you imagine that stuttering idiot trying to argue with someone as smart as Romney?
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


Smart as Romney? That's a new one; Romney doesn't understand anything about the needs of this country or it's people. He hires others to understand and calculate, and pays big bucks for someone else to tell him what to do. He's a boy of privilege who has no business in the driver's seat representing people he doesn't have a clue about.

There's certainly no proof existing that Romney has, or ever had any allegiance to the people in this country. Show us one thing that "he" was passionate about. You can't. He has no substance, there's nothing inside, nothing he believes in enough to really stand up for it unless it puts a profit in his own pocket first.

If they started showing clips of Romney's wishy-washy back and forth declarations, there'd be no time for any debate. He'll ultimately make decisions based on what his lobbyists pay him off to do, exactly what Obama ended up doing, full of empty promises, a hook-and-switch, just to get the ticket. He knows nothing about the Constitution, nor wants to know anything about it.

He won't follow through on one thing he's declaring. This is a contest involving the EGO for Romney. The office of Presidency is a prize for him, and has nothing to do with what's right for this country or it's people. Might as well have Bush Jr. back in office.

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There is that stupid "unbound delegates are fine because we have a republic" argument. You think that the Founding Fathers would want someone who has 2% support nationwide to be the candidate of a major political party? To even suggest such logic makes sense helps me realize how dangerous Paultards really are.
 Quoting: a helpless lamb


Yet again you show your lack of intelligence.


The founders didn't want a "major political party" at all you fucking simpleton. This is part of the problem with where we are at.

Go do a little research on the founders ACTUAL views and beliefs instead of just saying what you think they might have believed.

I honestly don't know anymore if you are actually this ignorant or if you are just trying to make the Robama supporters look like complete morons... If it's the latter of those two, WELL DONE.
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Having spent years closely associated with Thatcher's campaigns in the UK, I can assure you that Romney's campaign is an utter trainwreck, and every act like this is making him ever more unelectable. And if he does make it passt the winning post, he's going to be hated and disrespected from the start.

No-one can wion an election in the US dependent on the "big business" vote, particularly in an era where diversity of corporation has nosedived with business dominated by vast conglomerates - the bosses might represent a lot of wealth but stuff all in the way of votes.

Maggie Thatcher understood this and a central plank of her campaigning in 1979 was helping small businesses - indeed, statisitcally, the social groups who benefited most in percentage terms during her time in office were:-
1. Builders who owned their own businesses
2. Antique dealers and second hand shops.
3. Bookbinders.

Not as one would expect, multimillionaires and the captains of industry.

Likewise, whereas in North America, people arwe often divided into College Grads and the rest will be guaranteed losers, in Thatcher's era, there was athird option - if you don't make it to college, no probs, just start your own businesse, and the Government will create an environment where you can flourish, even if you are not brigh academically.

THe same is true for the US.

Romney needs the votes of the angry youth who are backing Ron Paul. By treating them like shit, he is writing off the block of voters precisely those that he needs.

If Obama wins, the country will disintegrate financially in weeks. If Romney wins, he'll be seen as a George Bush on steroids from day one and EVERYTHING HE TRIES WILL FEEL LIKE SWIMMING THROUGH CONCRETE.
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your wisdom will be ignored here
but i thank you for sharing your perspective
and you are correct, romney cannot win without the paul backers
and they're not all young, btw but the youth are the fuel for sure
and romney knows it
the gop knows it
and they don't care
thus they are intentionally throwing the election
and the dumb republicans will blame paul supporters for "splitting the vote" instead of themselves for nominating the liberal, anti-constitution, warmongering, corporations are people banking buttboy, draft dodging mittens
it's funny watching them try to defend their candidate, though
but, we won't be swayed with the typical election fearmongering lesser of 2 evils propaganda
romney will not have our vote

period

the only chance the repubs have is standing by paul
outing romney for the being the neoliberal he is and refusing, with the paul supporters, to nominate him
you know, having and standing up for the principles they claim to support
but their egos are too big and their love of corruption too deep i suppose
thus they will lose
again
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I was Ron Paul all the way... he delivered some 3000 babies in his medical practice.

Romney apparently helped burn the bodies of aborted babies with his company.

We all know where BHO stands on the issue of life.

I think Ron Paul was to squeaky clean for handlers or the media to black mail or control him so they shut him out.

Our local caucus was a disappointing joke... almost a preplanned outcome.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


yep. he was systematically removed so they could keep two identical candidates running simultaneously.

romney and obama work for the same plan
 Quoting: Salt

^^^^^^
THIS x 1000
The GOP breaking bones and pushing an
old man to the floor at the Louisiana
Convention this year SHOULD have
gotten peoples attention. Yes, it's on
youtube.
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I was Ron Paul all the way... he delivered some 3000 babies in his medical practice.

Romney apparently helped burn the bodies of aborted babies with his company.

We all know where BHO stands on the issue of life.

I think Ron Paul was to squeaky clean for handlers or the media to black mail or control him so they shut him out.

Our local caucus was a disappointing joke... almost a preplanned outcome.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


yep. he was systematically removed so they could keep two identical candidates running simultaneously.

romney and obama work for the same plan
 Quoting: Salt

^^^^^^
THIS x 1000
The GOP breaking bones and pushing an
old man to the floor at the Louisiana
Convention this year SHOULD have
gotten peoples attention. Yes, it's on
youtube.
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