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Koyle's Famine has begun -- 3 more bad summers before relief

 
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In the First Two Pages of this thread I have SUMMARIZED & HIGHLIGHTED the most important parts as well as I could.
Added: website for the 'MINE' that Koyle often refers to: [link to www.reliefmine.com]
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The messenger explained that there would be winters of heavy snow and big snow drifts after which there would be a mild open winter, but whether that winter was to follow immediately or whether some other winters would be in between, he never explained.

However, immediately following the mild open winter, there would be a hot, dry summer. The crops would come up in the spring, and there would be considerable moisture, and the crops would be glorious (that is the word Bishop used to use.) He saw the wheat would grow up and head out beautifully, and the irrigated wheat would mature, but the dry land wheat would not have enough moisture to fill out.

[link to woodyoubelieveit.blogspot.com]

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Re: Koyle's Famine has begun -- 3 more bad summers before relief
It is my opinion that 'wheat' here is an allegory for any/all crops (such as corn & soybeans) not just wheat.

After all, in Koyle's time -- were they even farming soybeans here in the US? Did people even know what soybeans were?

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...he examined the heads of wheat by crushing them in his hands to bring out the kernels. He found that the wheat was terribly shrunken and not fit for food. He was told by the messenger that this condition would bring about a shortage of food during the first year of harvest.

The second year he was shown would be the same only much less food raised. Still, the irrigated grain would be good. He was told we would need to store up the first and second years grain to supply food for the third and fourth years. The third year the shortage would be so great that there would hardly be anything raised for food. The fourth year they would not be able to raise anything for food.

**substitute 'ears of corn' for 'heads of wheat'

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...during the fourth year there would be plenty of money to buy food and he with others went up and down throughout the country seeking to buy food and they could not buy any. Any people who had a little food would not sell it at any price. During this time of famine there would be no rain to do any good. He saw the clouds would come up, and it would look like it was going to rain, but a wind would come up and blow the clouds away; and if there was any rain at all, it was just a few drops which were not sufficient to do any good.
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...during the fourth year there would be plenty of money to buy food and he with others went up and down throughout the country seeking to buy food and they could not buy any. Any people who had a little food would not sell it at any price. During this time of famine there would be no rain to do any good. He saw the clouds would come up, and it would look like it was going to rain, but a wind would come up and blow the clouds away; and if there was any rain at all, it was just a few drops which were not sufficient to do any good.
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Thread: Remote Viewing ... Last Night's Session -- DROUGHT & FAMINE & BRAINWASHING?

Another thing that came up in last night's session:

I asked him to view the collapse of the US economy / dollar.

We have had mixed success doing this kind of direct request, so I am not sure that what he told me actually is the real request or whether it is just relevant information regarding it.

The very first thing he said was:

When we can no longer buy carrots, we should be concerned.

Then he proceeded to tell me about us being in a supermarket produce section ('Hometown' grocery store?) and that people were there, wearing courier-style bags over their shoulders (to put their groceries in) and that carrots were not the only thing that was missing from the shelves -- most produce was gone. And most of that was left on the shelves was spoiling. There were not many people in the store -- but whomever was there did not 'look up' and make eye contact with anyone else. My husband said they seemed like they were brainwashed or automatons. And that for some reason whatever made them that way did not 'work' on us.

When I asked for more details I got:

There are no clouds in the sky. NONE. Why are there no clouds? The united states is almost completely cloud free - the weather is very strange, not natural -- and that there are clouds going in a thin stream / loop / u-shape over the center of the united states, but everywhere else, NO CLOUDs.
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...He saw the rains would come in the fifth year, and they would be forced to spare a little wheat for seed but would be sorely pressed to raise enough to eat during the fifth year and save enough for seed for the sixth year. The rains continued to come, the crops grew, and at the harvest time of the sixth year they would have enough food to carry on.
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there would be a great crash in the land before the period of famine began. This crash would be brought about by prices going up, which condition was illustrated to him as being like a person on high stilts. When prices became extremely high, something happened in the land like knocking the stilts from under the person and down came everything. Businesses closed down, labor was thrown out of work, people were hungry, and great tribulations were in the land.
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Koyle also described this food shortage that had been shown to him in dreams. Grain would grow up as though it would produce a fine crop--but something caused it to shrivel up and become a valueless harvest. Famine would occur all over the world--not only because of crop failures, but because of the troubles and chaos caused by the shutdown of manufacturing and transportation.
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Koyle foresaw the Republican victory of 1928 but stated that the man riding the donkey would win in 1932 and continue to win, establishing an unprecedented record of successive victories at the pools. During this time the elephant would become sick and unable to regain its feet. One attempt after another would be made until eventually, after many years, the elephant would rise to its feet and remain on them for a number of years, but would then go down and the country with it. There would then follow an unprecedented period of war, confusion, turmoil, and national disaster.
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Bishop Koyle said that Wall Street would have a major drop sometime before the total failure and that the Government would step in to help save it.
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...Associated with this time of distress and one of the principal things that would compound it beyond endurance for many, was a four year drouth {sic}, attended by great crop failures and famine, which would require from two to three years for recovery, depending upon where one lived. There would be seven distressful years filled and compounded with drouth {sic}, plague, famine, warfare, and other divine judgments...
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Just WHEN ( Time period ) did he live ?
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He always described this series of drouth years and crop shortages as follows: The first year would not be felt very much; but the second year would be worse with less crops; and the third year would also produce very poor crops; and in the fourth year there would be no crops at all.

In the fourth year he saw the grain come up around here like it was going to make into a bumper crop, and then something made it all wither and die like a blight or a terrific heat had taken it, leaving the people without harvest and in famine. And there was famine all over the country, not only because of these crop shortages, but because of the great troubles that had come causing manufacturing and transportation to cease. In fact, he saw that, although we had plenty of gold available, try as we would everywhere, we could buy no wheat with it.

Further, that in the fifth year, there would be plenty of moisture again but there would still be a shortage of food in the land because of the lack of seed to plant, --most of the seed having been eaten for food. And that only after the harvest of the sixth year, and in some places not until after the harvest of the seventh year, would crop production revert to abundance.
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Re: Koyle's Famine has begun -- 3 more bad summers before relief
This is a Mormon prophecy. And this Bishop Koyle was born in 1864. I wouldn't put much weight on it. Might as well put your faith in the psychic hotline. If you want future info just look into the Bible or just look around you to what is going on.
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This seems to follow the same biblical 7 year patterns in the bible.

Seems its always a 7 year cycle since the beginning, and always a issue on if to plant or eat at the end.
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This is a Mormon prophecy. And this Bishop Koyle was born in 1864. I wouldn't put much weight on it. Might as well put your faith in the psychic hotline. If you want future info just look into the Bible or just look around you to what is going on.
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I realize that Koyle was a Mormon. However, prohpecy doesn't belong to only one religion -- it belongs to everyone.
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...Some have quoted Bishop Koyle as describing the progress of the drouth years about as follows: The first year,--about a seventyfive percent crop; the second year,--about a fifty percent crop; the third year,--about a twentyfive percent crop; the fourth year, no crops at all.

He pointed out that we should secure our wheat from the first and second years, because that raised in the third year would not be fit for human consumption because of its very poor quality; and in the fourth year there was no grain to be purchased at any price...
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War would be brought to our coast line, but we would not be invaded at this time. However, a Russian invasion of the U.S. and Canada would come later.
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One time in about 1946 an attorney who was quite interested in the Mine, and sometimes he attended the thursday night meetings, said to the Bishop, "How are you going to stop the Government from taking about 94% of the gold away from you?" The Bishop said, "Turney, there ain't goin' to be no Government when the Mine comes in!"


**In reference to Koyle's 'Dream Mine'

I think it's significant that he said there would be no government by that (future) time which is why I included it among these other posts since I can certainly see the USA's state of affairs heading in that direction, whether we all want it to or not.
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Bishop Koyle said that on the first shipment of gold that there would be a small piece in the paper near the mining page and few people would see it. It would be about one inch long in the paper. At this same date and on this same paper there would be four-inch headlines. We were never told what those headlines would be about.
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Koyle saw that the US President would die in office just a while after the mine came in. He saw them look up and down the country everywhere to try to find a man to take his place and they would not be able to find one and the nation wandered in chaos.
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He was shown that a Republican Administration would made great efforts to save the economy. He also said prices would go higher and higher and all at once something happened and in one night the props would be knocked out from under everything and down would come everything. This condition of rising prices would be brought about by strikes.

When the props give away there will suddenly be an overnight price and wage crash or deflation that seemed to occur the same time as the death of the republican president. The disaster which followed rated 4-inch headlines in newspapers throughout the country.
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He would many times stop in and talk to Velma. One day she asked when the economic crash would occur. He was sitting at the time with his arms across his chest and then he dropped his head down. She thought he had gone to sleep. After a period of time he opened his eyes and looked up at her and told her this. The overnite crash would occur on a holiday weekend where the holiday falls on a monday.
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Thread: ‘JP Morgan Is FINISHED! JPM Silver Scandal Will Rival LIBOR!’

JP Morgan will file for bankrupt on August 31, 2012.

That's a Friday.

They will file for bankrupt after the market closes.

Friday, August 31, 2012;
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LABOR DAY WEEKEND is SEPTEMBER 3, 2012
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Koyle was shown that our entire wage and price structure had risen higher and higher so that it was like it was up on high stilts, and then suddenly it was as if someone over-night had kicked the stilts out from under it, and the whole thing came down with a crash to about 20 cents on the dollar. Property would only be worth l/5 of its form er value, but his mortgage and other fixed debts would remain the same.
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Bishop Koyle will tell you the most important thing for you to do. You should have your houses filled with a large amount of food, and go inside and cut off your radio, TV, your telephone, and your daily papers. You will not want to know what is going on in the outside world at all. I saw that two out of every three people on the earth would lose their lives from starving, or from being killed on account of the judgments of God that would be in full swing. I saw that I could walk great distances right here in Utah, by stepping from one man's dead body to the other. After you get inside your houses, you will be in there for quite some time.
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The bishop made the comment many times at the thursday night meetings that the day would come when a silver dollar would buy an acre of land.
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The other banks seemed to be useless and, although filled with money, they would lend hardly any of it for fear that it could not be paid back. And when they did lend any of it they were after high interest rates. Unemployment was widespread, and many people were losing their farms and homes because most of them would be mortgaged at this time.
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This crash would cause every bank in the country to eventually fail except those established by the Relief Mine which would have enough gold back of it to survive. Gold would become very powerful as a medium of exchange. He said that here in Utah we would return to gold and silver coinage, and that our local economy would hold up about two years longer than the rest of the nation.
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He looked up and down the state everywhere on the third year of famine, and he could not buy a bushel of wheat for a bushel of gold.

We learned through the Bishop we would have nine months to build grain bins and store food, and that would be the longest that money would be good until transportation fails.
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For example, he saw that during the time of great tribulation there would be a massive earthquake out in the Pacific Ocean that would bring giant tidal waves along our Pacific Coast. This would in turn bring destructive quakes along the San Andreas Fault and wreck great destruction in San Francisco and Oakland. If inspired, prophetic warnings were heeded in time, many of our people would escape these disasters.
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Entire states would be depopulated, with not enough living to bury the dead. This in turn would cause a great influx of tens of thousands refugees, consisting mostly of women and children, looking for food and safety until there were more people living in tents than in houses in the valleys of Utah.
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...in a short time the situation would grow so bad that all of the automobiles and trains would stop running, and manufacturing would cease because of a complete breakdown in our economy. They would have to put the horseless carriage back in the barn and get the horse out, if they still had a horse.
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Then we could no longer buy any wheat because there was no way to get to where the big supplies were located, nor could it be brought to us. And those who did have any wheat on hand would not sell it for a bushel of gold. Then the really big troubles began with famine, warfare, plagues and judgments...
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Bishop Koyle saw that it would serve them as a means to places of refuge and safety where they could take needed supplies with them and find protection from an invading U.S. Army, larger than was Johnston's Army sent against the Saints about a century ago, This army would have orders to destroy them if they did not surrender and deny all affiliation with the new parliamentary nation.

...we will also have the Russians to fight, and they will get half way across this country before they are put down." (--To the Missouri River.)
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In the thirties he spoke of Russia invading Turkey at this time to gain the Dardenelle-Bosporus Water-way. He said that at this time there would be trouble in Palestine or the Mid-East, which in turn would cause war to erupt in the Balkans as Russia mace {sic} a great military push toward Palestine and practically wiped Turkey off the European pert of the map.

He said that after the Reds took over most of Europe, Asia and Africa, they would invade the United States and Canada, and because of our chaotic condition, we could offer very little organized resistance. He said the Reds would get as far as the Missouri River or Mississippi River before they were stopped by Priesthood powers from heaven that would drive them out of the lands. The Chinese would invade the West Coast and get as far as the Sierra Nevadas before they were stopped by divine intervention and that these invasions would not reach us herein these valleys of the mountains.

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