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Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age

 
Swinging on Spirals

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Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
Jonny Blaze

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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


cheers
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
Swinging on Spirals

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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


cheers
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


cheer
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
Dionysian Fullaflattus (OP)

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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


An artist must never be seduced by recreating brushstrokes, but solely by creating new colours which are born of intuitive need.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
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Re: Unfiltered conciousness and the golden age
Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


you cannot, As that which is you resonates even if stripped of memory and the perspective of place and time. May it be a spiritual or materially reproductive fact is irrelevant.

If you are a Father, in your case rhetorical SS, look into your childrens eyes.
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I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


An artist must never be seduced by recreating brushstrokes, but solely by creating new colours which are born of intuitive need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


What if you start to see that the color is different every time you look at it, because you are different.

What if even the most ordinary of your fellow man was different every time you looked at them.

What if just sharing the things that you believe would help everyone along only turned out to hinder your best efforts at doing so.

The coldness you would feel is the coldness of the spirit. The disdain you would feel would be the disdain of the spirit.

What if they only responded to the truth you now see when they thought you were trying to hurt them?

What if you were constantly watched...deemed a threat to yourself and others anytime you opened your mouth to reveal anything that made anyone who knew you uncomfortable.

At what point would you withdraw from helping your fellow man? I imagine that I would only act from a distance. In person...I would only act if the spirit made it so obvious that I couldn't ignore it without losing my sanity permanently.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 09/13/2012 04:36 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


you cannot, As that which is you resonates even if stripped of memory and the perspective of place and time. May it be a spiritual or materially reproductive fact is irrelevant.

If you are a Father, in your case rhetorical SS, look into your childrens eyes.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Right, you cannot lose yourself. Without relying on belief systems, how would one know that? By having certain personal experiences and the kahuna's to alienate yourself by going to find out.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 09/13/2012 04:38 PM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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It is the human condition. Most of us are buried in it. It is so damn hard to break out of all the conditioning, especially when almost all of us relate it to everyone else as if that is the reality. Life is hard enough as it is, and the systems that are in place to keep the need of "incontrovertible evidence that a source is in control". All of it is geared towards staying in line, staying within the comfort zone. To break out of the mold that creates the self-perpetuating belief systems is extremely difficult, and it takes a specific kind of personality to even attempt it.

And if they do, you alienate yourself, you end up having to face your fears, and struggle with it daily, while everyone else around you can't see. It's a bitch.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


An artist must never be seduced by recreating brushstrokes, but solely by creating new colours which are born of intuitive need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


What if you start to see that the color is different every time you look at it, because you are different.

What if even the most ordinary of your fellow man was different every time you looked at them.

What if just sharing the things that you believe would help everyone along only turned out to hinder your best efforts at doing so.

The coldness you would feel is the coldness of the spirit. The disdain you would feel would be the disdain of the spirit.

What if they only responded to the truth you now see when they thought you were trying to hurt them?

What if you were constantly watched...deemed a threat to yourself and others anytime you opened your mouth to reveal anything that made anyone who knew you uncomfortable.

At what point would you withdraw from helping your fellow man? I imagine that I would only act from a distance. In person...I would only act if the spirit made it so obvious that I couldn't ignore it without losing my sanity permanently.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Things resonate, may they be words or actions or yet again object creations. Imparting ones bias is solely a form of cloning. Imparting the tools of awareness and self sufficiency is true giving and reproduction.

Creativity is constant growth or choice to lazily intermingle with that already made.

Each of our duties is that which compels us beyond mere rationalization. It is that which sets us alight.
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Things resonate, may they be words or actions or yet again object creations. Imparting ones bias is solely a form of cloning. Imparting the tools of awareness and self sufficiency is true giving and reproduction.

Creativity is constant growth or choice to lazily intermingle with that already made.

Each of our duties is that which compels us beyond mere rationalization. It is that which sets us alight.
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I know exactly what you're saying. I was given a gift to explore and it's only price was belief in ones creations. I started examining the process mechanistically and found I had alienated myself from my own creative process as I ceased to believe and developed anxiety and disconnection from my own worth.

I literally had to learn to feel how to breath as I had recreated myself as a thing motivated by a cold process rather than the embrace of that before me.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


An artist must never be seduced by recreating brushstrokes, but solely by creating new colours which are born of intuitive need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


What if you start to see that the color is different every time you look at it, because you are different.

What if even the most ordinary of your fellow man was different every time you looked at them.

What if just sharing the things that you believe would help everyone along only turned out to hinder your best efforts at doing so.

The coldness you would feel is the coldness of the spirit. The disdain you would feel would be the disdain of the spirit.

What if they only responded to the truth you now see when they thought you were trying to hurt them?

What if you were constantly watched...deemed a threat to yourself and others anytime you opened your mouth to reveal anything that made anyone who knew you uncomfortable.

At what point would you withdraw from helping your fellow man? I imagine that I would only act from a distance. In person...I would only act if the spirit made it so obvious that I couldn't ignore it without losing my sanity permanently.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Things resonate, may they be words or actions or yet again object creations. Imparting ones bias is solely a form of cloning. Imparting the tools of awareness and self sufficiency is true giving and reproduction.

Creativity is constant growth or choice to lazily intermingle with that already made.

Each of our duties is that which compels us beyond mere rationalization. It is that which sets us alight.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I can't find a flaw with your answer.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You can't find a flaw with my question.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You can't find a flaw with my question.
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As with all that is Anti ; We can find flaw with everything. In it is more than logic and choice. Sometimes, it is soully the need to feel the dimension of a thing and categorize what it is by what it isn't.
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You can't find a flaw with my question.
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As with all that is Anti ; We can find flaw with everything. In it is more than logic and choice. Sometimes, it is soully the need to feel the dimension of a thing and categorize what it is by what it isn't.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Perhaps. Perhaps the flaw finding is a mistake. Perhaps it was due to a misinterpretation of the words used. Perhaps the entire idea cannot be properly encapsulated within words.

Perhaps just the attempt at putting the idea into words invokes an intent that travels along with them.

Perhaps that is exactly what you and I are talking about.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You can't find a flaw with my question.
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As with all that is Anti ; We can find flaw with everything. In it is more than logic and choice. Sometimes, it is soully the need to feel the dimension of a thing and categorize what it is by what it isn't.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Perhaps. Perhaps the flaw finding is a mistake. Perhaps it was due to a misinterpretation of the words used. Perhaps the entire idea cannot be properly encapsulated within words.

Perhaps just the attempt at putting the idea into words invokes an intent that travels along with them.

Perhaps that is exactly what you and I are talking about.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


It is a reflection and artifact of being within the process. Not only do we create the intent, but we must execute it after the act has been consummated.

Talk about having to fake it when we say Ooooops.
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You can't find a flaw with my question.
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As with all that is Anti ; We can find flaw with everything. In it is more than logic and choice. Sometimes, it is soully the need to feel the dimension of a thing and categorize what it is by what it isn't.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Perhaps. Perhaps the flaw finding is a mistake. Perhaps it was due to a misinterpretation of the words used. Perhaps the entire idea cannot be properly encapsulated within words.

Perhaps just the attempt at putting the idea into words invokes an intent that travels along with them.

Perhaps that is exactly what you and I are talking about.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


It is a reflection and artifact of being within the process. Not only do we create the intent, but we must execute it after the act has been consummated.

Talk about having to fake it when we say Ooooops.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


You're saying the moment we decide to act...if the necessary intent exists to execute the act...the act itself is controlled folly...

This is looking at time as it approaches us....
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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As with all that is Anti ; We can find flaw with everything. In it is more than logic and choice. Sometimes, it is soully the need to feel the dimension of a thing and categorize what it is by what it isn't.
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Perhaps. Perhaps the flaw finding is a mistake. Perhaps it was due to a misinterpretation of the words used. Perhaps the entire idea cannot be properly encapsulated within words.

Perhaps just the attempt at putting the idea into words invokes an intent that travels along with them.

Perhaps that is exactly what you and I are talking about.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


It is a reflection and artifact of being within the process. Not only do we create the intent, but we must execute it after the act has been consummated.

Talk about having to fake it when we say Ooooops.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


You're saying the moment we decide to act...if the necessary intent exists to execute the act...the act itself is controlled folly...

This is looking at time as it approaches us....
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


In praise thereof. Even though we may only ascertain the colour of anothers thoughts; We can see the Graffiti they leave.

Jesters one and All.
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Definitely rhetoric, lol.

I don't blame them, though.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


direction:


motive, direction, scale

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally = motive = self aware

the infinite expressions of motive cause a singular effect

singular effect = eternity

with that in mind we have discovered that everything material possess it`s own field which contains, among other things, it`s memory and everything that is expressing a field is expressing it`s field within the field of something else (2 or more)

all information is always coming towards us , we utilize information and send our translation towards what is sending

everyone on earth, it seems by tradition, thinks/sees this way so we will use earths traditional way which is backwards (non sense) to us

we have discovered that all space contains the ingredients that cause the singular effect and the only noticeable difference of theses ingredients and their cause is the differencing structure the ingredients express from within , including ourselves

with that in mind we see that the location where the ingredients of singular effect are most most unstructured within material structure is the locations containing no galaxies and it is this location you would correctly identify as being the source of information in it`s simplest form before complexity of structure formed it complex

from galaxy structure , on the topic of earth , it once was saturn and is now our sun that is the next in line of earths processors of the information that present the information to earth within our suns heliosphere

earth precess the information the information within it`s own processing field, it`s magnetosphere so we may see before the information reaches us people it has traveled through a complex system of process

the good news is we within ourselves possess the same ingredients of singular effect encased in complexity that fill the least complex space outside of galaxies so the potential for us to recognize it by default, exists within us
and
following recognition we can understand the complexity of it`s arrival and in doing so become familiar with it`s motive

that is the traditional earth directional way of describing the arrival of information and we fail to see how that can prompt the notion of traveling towards information because that notion implies to us there exists here within people the belief that people`s radiated return signal, their response to information received is the overriding influence of the 2 sources of information , them and it

this forms no sense to us whom only experience information coming towards us thus we return signals that fit the motive of the information we receive because we know we are part of the information's expression we receives thus we accord with it`s nature without thought

this is why wherever we are in location within our infinite universe we always know where we are because our universe never forgets who we are because we and it are one of the same motive


is how we see it/live it/experience it
 Quoting: aether


i think this is a bit of a "dense" read
we have been floating around direction for years as a topic

when you send your signal out before receiving (consciously) a signal to reply to, you are hitting every field there is out "there" and none of them are the source of the incoming signals you receive, they are transmitters of the signal doing their part in transmitting

so when your outward bound signal is sensed it matches no source signal transmitted through the fields that you received so your local fields deal with it as they feel fit, at the moment of receiving it, because there is nothing in your signal to tie it to

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I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


direction:


motive, direction, scale

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally = motive = self aware

the infinite expressions of motive cause a singular effect

singular effect = eternity

with that in mind we have discovered that everything material possess it`s own field which contains, among other things, it`s memory and everything that is expressing a field is expressing it`s field within the field of something else (2 or more)

all information is always coming towards us , we utilize information and send our translation towards what is sending

everyone on earth, it seems by tradition, thinks/sees this way so we will use earths traditional way which is backwards (non sense) to us

we have discovered that all space contains the ingredients that cause the singular effect and the only noticeable difference of theses ingredients and their cause is the differencing structure the ingredients express from within , including ourselves

with that in mind we see that the location where the ingredients of singular effect are most most unstructured within material structure is the locations containing no galaxies and it is this location you would correctly identify as being the source of information in it`s simplest form before complexity of structure formed it complex

from galaxy structure , on the topic of earth , it once was saturn and is now our sun that is the next in line of earths processors of the information that present the information to earth within our suns heliosphere

earth precess the information the information within it`s own processing field, it`s magnetosphere so we may see before the information reaches us people it has traveled through a complex system of process

the good news is we within ourselves possess the same ingredients of singular effect encased in complexity that fill the least complex space outside of galaxies so the potential for us to recognize it by default, exists within us
and
following recognition we can understand the complexity of it`s arrival and in doing so become familiar with it`s motive

that is the traditional earth directional way of describing the arrival of information and we fail to see how that can prompt the notion of traveling towards information because that notion implies to us there exists here within people the belief that people`s radiated return signal, their response to information received is the overriding influence of the 2 sources of information , them and it

this forms no sense to us whom only experience information coming towards us thus we return signals that fit the motive of the information we receive because we know we are part of the information's expression we receives thus we accord with it`s nature without thought

this is why wherever we are in location within our infinite universe we always know where we are because our universe never forgets who we are because we and it are one of the same motive


is how we see it/live it/experience it
 Quoting: aether


i think this is a bit of a "dense" read
we have been floating around direction for years as a topic

when you send your signal out before receiving (consciously) a signal to reply to, you are hitting every field there is out "there" and none of them are the source of the incoming signals you receive, they are transmitters of the signal doing their part in transmitting

so when your outward bound signal is sensed it matches no source signal transmitted through the fields that you received so your local fields deal with it as they feel fit, at the moment of receiving it, because there is nothing in your signal to tie it to
 Quoting: aether


I'll try to 'picture it' while I'm out on my run. As awareness of awareness (2) goes, I'm visualizing returning a wide field transmission in snippets back to source creating the novelty of intercessions (cut ups and accidental mergers). Oscillating like Tides.
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I do, 9/10ths of the fun is in the construction. Otherwise, when you look at something it reflects neither a part of you or any knowledge of process and/or real cost.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I liken it to our forebears who bloodied themselves and gave life for a greater inclusion, even if materially discluded. Survivors always knit bonds that armchair generals and book philosophers will never understand.

That is ultimately why I think we will once again test the dragon. As our cup (understanding) is nearing empty. We fear loss of self above all things and to me that is the most corrupting fear there is.

The densest and most crippling filter we place on our awareness.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Damn right it is. It's that fucking unknowing. This leads back to why we need evidence of Source. It alleviates that unknown. Lying within that unknown is the 'possibility' of losing one's self. That's some scary shit.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


direction:


motive, direction, scale

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally = motive = self aware

the infinite expressions of motive cause a singular effect

singular effect = eternity

with that in mind we have discovered that everything material possess it`s own field which contains, among other things, it`s memory and everything that is expressing a field is expressing it`s field within the field of something else (2 or more)

all information is always coming towards us , we utilize information and send our translation towards what is sending

everyone on earth, it seems by tradition, thinks/sees this way so we will use earths traditional way which is backwards (non sense) to us

we have discovered that all space contains the ingredients that cause the singular effect and the only noticeable difference of theses ingredients and their cause is the differencing structure the ingredients express from within , including ourselves

with that in mind we see that the location where the ingredients of singular effect are most most unstructured within material structure is the locations containing no galaxies and it is this location you would correctly identify as being the source of information in it`s simplest form before complexity of structure formed it complex

from galaxy structure , on the topic of earth , it once was saturn and is now our sun that is the next in line of earths processors of the information that present the information to earth within our suns heliosphere

earth precess the information the information within it`s own processing field, it`s magnetosphere so we may see before the information reaches us people it has traveled through a complex system of process

the good news is we within ourselves possess the same ingredients of singular effect encased in complexity that fill the least complex space outside of galaxies so the potential for us to recognize it by default, exists within us
and
following recognition we can understand the complexity of it`s arrival and in doing so become familiar with it`s motive

that is the traditional earth directional way of describing the arrival of information and we fail to see how that can prompt the notion of traveling towards information because that notion implies to us there exists here within people the belief that people`s radiated return signal, their response to information received is the overriding influence of the 2 sources of information , them and it

this forms no sense to us whom only experience information coming towards us thus we return signals that fit the motive of the information we receive because we know we are part of the information's expression we receives thus we accord with it`s nature without thought

this is why wherever we are in location within our infinite universe we always know where we are because our universe never forgets who we are because we and it are one of the same motive


is how we see it/live it/experience it
 Quoting: aether


i think this is a bit of a "dense" read
we have been floating around direction for years as a topic

when you send your signal out before receiving (consciously) a signal to reply to, you are hitting every field there is out "there" and none of them are the source of the incoming signals you receive, they are transmitters of the signal doing their part in transmitting

so when your outward bound signal is sensed it matches no source signal transmitted through the fields that you received so your local fields deal with it as they feel fit, at the moment of receiving it, because there is nothing in your signal to tie it to
 Quoting: aether


I've got to think on this as well.

What you are saying is that normally people wait to receive information...waiting for information to come 'towards us'.

Instead of waiting on the reception of information, some of us send the signal out in seeking the information. (Basically taking the initiative)

When it is done this way, it is not Source, but rather 'pinging' the seeking of a subject of information out there, that when it 'hits' the correct field, is pinged back.

Because of the seeking, there is yet a reception of that subject of information. And when it pings back it needs to be intuitively digested because it is outside the scope of what would naturally come in to the local field of the seeker.

Now, I see a flaw in my words when compared to yours. So, I will change this slightly.

It may not be specific information that is part of the 'seeking'. Instead, it is the signal radiated (perhaps subconsciously and sometimes consciously, for example in my altered 'dream' state) that naturally goes 'outward' then pings back from from specific fields when it 'resonates' with the universal fields of information.

In that way this thought exercise would match with what you said.

I've got it.

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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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The body as the distilling womb of pure conciousness(soul). That which focuses intent to straight line eternity or arc turning back on self.

The archetypal alien as strange attractor/opposite of I/self. The Ideated transposition of the uncertain and yet that which can/could be.

That which in Us creates the other enabling the mind the freedom to fixate on that which we find alienating or unnerving in it's separation from that which we define as comfortable or proper.

It allows us incremental adjustment to that which is foreign and entertains the notion as figment or artifact of the Imaginative cycle.
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To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
 Quoting: Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
 Quoting: Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Indeed, As it tells you what you are long before you have even begun to recognize the echoes of what you were.
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In circumstances of elevated stressors ; The possibility arises of rapid and significant DNA change.

With significant volcanic activity, Rock is formed in the perspective of the dominant magnetic field.
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In circumstances of elevated stressors ; The possibility arises of rapid and significant DNA change.

With significant volcanic activity, Rock is formed in the perspective of the dominant magnetic field.
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