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The Personal Experience of Knowledge

 
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I don't know if it's a talent or an annoyance...most days.
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The '04 cluster contained several other mysterious and crazy happenings.

One I call 'the swarm' I will eventually post here. Another I call 'the attempted escape' I will have to post too.

It all culminated with my meeting of 'the old man'. I've spoken of him before. I may regurgitate my confrontation with him on this thread in due time.

He seemed to arrive at the apex of all the craziness back in '04...the aftermath of which left me involuntarily committed for 4 or 5 days. Fortunately, my public defender attorney was quickly able to get me out. He was a mason with a bright shiny diamond studded ring. I imagine he was highly devoted to the masons to be wearing that gaudy thing around.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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CS Lewis knew more than most people give him credit for.

In his space trilogy, he spoke of Eldila - beings that to the naked eye look like a tiny spark of light.

This is not so far removed from fact - every time you see a spark of light just floating around (they usually only appear for a half-second to a few seconds), that is a being from the 2nd layer of this dimension/realm doing something to affect the 1st layer.

As several people know: energy, when not invisible, is not colorless. Each being has an energy signature, and a color attributed to their energy - this color is often called their "power color".

This is why you can see different colored sparks - you don't need to get your eyes checked, for what you are seeing is the energy of other beings at work in the world around you.
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I started noticing this after i got deep into learning about meditation and spirituality. I mean, its just there. I usually have to look at the sky to see it but its really easy to after running for 20 minutes
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Ok,

Here is another one from the '04 cluster.

It was an overcast afternoon. There was a storm pushing in. It must have been pushing in from the north, because my balcony faced in a southern direction and the sky was just a bit overcast, but darker behind me.

I had this obsession with the idea of lightning and timing. You see, I always thought it would be cool to call lightning down with intent, but I wondered if it the intent was just a matter of timing, or if the intent could actually be connected to the spark of energy itself.

A storm was building so I decided to try it out. What the hell. I had made up two words. 'Toraz' (pronounced tor-ahs) and 'Tiyate' (ti-yat-tay).

I gave meaning to the words...Toraz meant: build or charge. Tiyate meant: strike.

I silenced my mind and then from a state of focus began forcefully whispering 'Toraz' over and over again. Thinking of the ground in various locations (at a safe distance) from me. A positive Toraz for the ground. A negative Toraz for the sky. As I did this I focused on sending my intent from my gut through my right leg into the ground and from the ground to my left leg to my gut. I did this in conjunction with my breathing. I call this 'grounding' myself. I switched from grounding to Torazing. Back and forth. Back and forth.

For a good long while I did this as the storm rolled in.

Then, I moved on to phase two. Tiyate. Same breathy whisper...focusing on bringing the intent from from my gut and pushing it out into the sky.

Tiyate....wait. Listen. A strike of lightning. Not good enough. It needs to be exact. Again. Tiyate. Closer. Again.
Again.

Finally, my void of calmness was completely shattered when I simultaneously whispered and screamed Tiyate at the same instant a bolt of lightning struck to the west of my position. The bolt strike was so close I immediately heard the deafening BOOM of it.

I immediately went inside and abandoned my stupid experiment. After a good 20 minutes I stopped shaking.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Omfg i had the same experience but it was a lot more breif than yours. I was standing outside watching this big ass storm gather with a few neighbors and it started getting bad. Like i started seeing those flashes without the lightning to back them up. I was about to walk inside and i stopped at the door and thought, you know what, i want to see another big strike. I looked up, and thought "common just one good strike" and a split second after i said it, i saw a blinding flash, a lout booming noise, and the whole building and everything around me lost power and got dark. Startled me a lot. I havent shook like that in a minute.
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Sounds like we have another stalker in the building.

So quick yet with such results!! Do you ever try to silence your internal dialogue (or meditate if you prefer)?

There's some intent underneath them there reason.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Sounds like we have another stalker in the building.

So quick yet with such results!! Do you ever try to silence your internal dialogue (or meditate if you prefer)?

There's some intent underneath them there reason.
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What do you mean.
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Sounds like we have another stalker in the building.

So quick yet with such results!! Do you ever try to silence your internal dialogue (or meditate if you prefer)?

There's some intent underneath them there reason.
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What do you mean.
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I don't know. - (sorry, just a reference to the 3 amigos there when Steve Martin says 'not so fast el guapo!'...he responds...'what do you mean?'...then Steve's character says 'I don't know.'.)

Uhmm..hmmm. (clears throat). What I mean is this. It is possible to divide people into two categories...people who are talented at 'the art of dreaming' and people who are talented at 'the art of stalking'.

The art of stalking is really just a method one applies when attempting to stalk knowledge or power. There comes a time when an ordinary man chooses be be more than just an ordinary man. Depending on your natural talents, you either become a stalker or a dreamer to pursue knowledge not ordinarily accessible to yourself.

Seems to me that you acted on an impulse...what I would call the 'spirit' for lack of a better term spoke to you. You decided to go outside and speak to the storm...something that on its face is irrational and goes against reason.

You were shocked at the response when the spirit of the storm answered you. It was an assault on your reason. It contradicted the inventory of your mind and you were forced to make a conscious decision that it was just 'a coincidence'. Yet another part of you didn't buy that explanation fully.....thus the conflict in yourself. Thus the wonder/terror and the shakeup of your energetic body.

The only way to get over it and return to normal is to dismiss it as a coincidence or...admit that it existed and is defies any logical explanation you can conceive of.

I asked about your internal dialogue...because you must have temporarily stopped it in order for the spirit to move on you.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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So is that like an either or category for you...stalkers and dreamers?

What's each like...if you don't mind going into that.
Or point me to where you've identified those already in another thread?
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Sounds like we have another stalker in the building.

So quick yet with such results!! Do you ever try to silence your internal dialogue (or meditate if you prefer)?

There's some intent underneath them there reason.
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What do you mean.
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I don't know. - (sorry, just a reference to the 3 amigos there when Steve Martin says 'not so fast el guapo!'...he responds...'what do you mean?'...then Steve's character says 'I don't know.'.)

Uhmm..hmmm. (clears throat). What I mean is this. It is possible to divide people into two categories...people who are talented at 'the art of dreaming' and people who are talented at 'the art of stalking'.

The art of stalking is really just a method one applies when attempting to stalk knowledge or power. There comes a time when an ordinary man chooses be be more than just an ordinary man. Depending on your natural talents, you either become a stalker or a dreamer to pursue knowledge not ordinarily accessible to yourself.

Seems to me that you acted on an impulse...what I would call the 'spirit' for lack of a better term spoke to you. You decided to go outside and speak to the storm...something that on its face is irrational and goes against reason.

You were shocked at the response when the spirit of the storm answered you. It was an assault on your reason. It contradicted the inventory of your mind and you were forced to make a conscious decision that it was just 'a coincidence'. Yet another part of you didn't buy that explanation fully.....thus the conflict in yourself. Thus the wonder/terror and the shakeup of your energetic body.

The only way to get over it and return to normal is to dismiss it as a coincidence or...admit that it existed and is defies any logical explanation you can conceive of.

I asked about your internal dialogue...because you must have temporarily stopped it in order for the spirit to move on you.
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Well i have been meditating a lot and practicing with the bending of elements. Ill meditate on a candle and watch its moves and i can make a piece of paper spin on a nail now. I tried the lightning trick because i just remember thinking there was a lot of energy in the air and it might be possibly easy to do something with it. But i didnt see lightning it was just light. But yes i do search for similar experiences to mine. I have results in meditation but ive only had one major experience
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So is that like an either or category for you...stalkers and dreamers?

What's each like...if you don't mind going into that.
Or point me to where you've identified those already in another thread?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I wouldn't say that it is something I have identified. More like it is something that I read and tend to agree with based on what I've seen in the world.

It's from Castaneda's works, mainly references about how Don Juan Matus viewed the world.

It's not something that I can clearly explain. It is more identifiable to me though, for example, on this board, it is easier for me to determine that in other people than it is to determine their gender.

I think it has something to do with personality type and how different people use their perception when they interact with each other, describe themselves, or describe their opinions on things.

I believe their are certain tells that I might not be fully conscious of.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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So is that like an either or category for you...stalkers and dreamers?

What's each like...if you don't mind going into that.
Or point me to where you've identified those already in another thread?
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I wouldn't say that it is something I have identified. More like it is something that I read and tend to agree with based on what I've seen in the world.

It's from Castaneda's works, mainly references about how Don Juan Matus viewed the world.

It's not something that I can clearly explain. It is more identifiable to me though, for example, on this board, it is easier for me to determine that in other people than it is to determine their gender.

I think it has something to do with personality type and how different people use their perception when they interact with each other, describe themselves, or describe their opinions on things.

I believe their are certain tells that I might not be fully conscious of.
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And then you think some people are 'stalker dreamers'?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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So is that like an either or category for you...stalkers and dreamers?

What's each like...if you don't mind going into that.
Or point me to where you've identified those already in another thread?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I wouldn't say that it is something I have identified. More like it is something that I read and tend to agree with based on what I've seen in the world.

It's from Castaneda's works, mainly references about how Don Juan Matus viewed the world.

It's not something that I can clearly explain. It is more identifiable to me though, for example, on this board, it is easier for me to determine that in other people than it is to determine their gender.

I think it has something to do with personality type and how different people use their perception when they interact with each other, describe themselves, or describe their opinions on things.

I believe their are certain tells that I might not be fully conscious of.
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And then you think some people are 'stalker dreamers'?
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


DAMN YOU SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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So is that like an either or category for you...stalkers and dreamers?

What's each like...if you don't mind going into that.
Or point me to where you've identified those already in another thread?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I wouldn't say that it is something I have identified. More like it is something that I read and tend to agree with based on what I've seen in the world.

It's from Castaneda's works, mainly references about how Don Juan Matus viewed the world.

It's not something that I can clearly explain. It is more identifiable to me though, for example, on this board, it is easier for me to determine that in other people than it is to determine their gender.

I think it has something to do with personality type and how different people use their perception when they interact with each other, describe themselves, or describe their opinions on things.

I believe their are certain tells that I might not be fully conscious of.
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And then you think some people are 'stalker dreamers'?
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


DAMN YOU SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
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hiding
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I wouldn't say that it is something I have identified. More like it is something that I read and tend to agree with based on what I've seen in the world.

It's from Castaneda's works, mainly references about how Don Juan Matus viewed the world.

It's not something that I can clearly explain. It is more identifiable to me though, for example, on this board, it is easier for me to determine that in other people than it is to determine their gender.

I think it has something to do with personality type and how different people use their perception when they interact with each other, describe themselves, or describe their opinions on things.

I believe their are certain tells that I might not be fully conscious of.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


And then you think some people are 'stalker dreamers'?
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


DAMN YOU SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
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hiding
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My only hope in surviving you is to become a mirror:

hiding
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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And then you think some people are 'stalker dreamers'?
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DAMN YOU SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL
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hiding
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


My only hope in surviving you is to become a mirror:

hiding
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poolshark
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Fuck that mirror shit!!!!

ahhh
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Fuck that mirror shit!!!!

ahhh
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lol, those mirrors aren't that fun, but for me, it was/is a necessary thing. If there was a way you could experience it within a reality AS a reality, it changes you vastly. I messed around with mirrors in many, many ways on the other-side, and when you get to experience yourself as something that you used to be prior to a human, it is fucked up, lol...and eternally humbling, and is as scary of an experience as you can imagine. It is difficult enough to just 'see' yourself as something else. But, when you go into the deeper layers and physically feel yourself as things different...it is unforgettable, and inexpressible. I did this a number of times. Now, it is a more disconcerting than anything.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Fuck that mirror shit!!!!

ahhh
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lol, those mirrors aren't that fun, but for me, it was/is a necessary thing. If there was a way you could experience it within a reality AS a reality, it changes you vastly. I messed around with mirrors in many, many ways on the other-side, and when you get to experience yourself as something that you used to be prior to a human, it is fucked up, lol...and eternally humbling, and is as scary of an experience as you can imagine. It is difficult enough to just 'see' yourself as something else. But, when you go into the deeper layers and physically feel yourself as things different...it is unforgettable, and inexpressible. I did this a number of times. Now, it is a more disconcerting than anything.
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Every time I attempt to 'see' it fucks up my sight. Actually, I have come to believe that I cannot 'see' energy directly. Thus, I strictly adhere to the seven rules and procedures of stalking.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You must understand that at the time, and still to this day as a matter of fact, my reason is directly opposed to my intent.

I was trying to prove to my reason the existence of things that my reason cannot make any sense of. I was trying to make my reason confront these things and not collapse in the face of them.

I was trying to teach my reason that there are things which contradict the inventory of the mind...and I have to be able to examine these things in a state of suspended disbelief...to handle these things...without ever hoping to understand them.

So my experiment was in essence a strategic assault on my sense of reason. A massive jolt. I was stalking myself.
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oh
you mimic the way of a shaman to discover another way

sensible

suggest you stay with the shaman way whilst you explore the electrical nature of our environment as discovered in our past 5 years
this will most likely provide your reason with authorized evidence of practical application whilst satisfying your shamanic intuition on the topic, how and why the shaman way works, when matched to 21 st century knowing of our environment
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the first thing you will notice, if you have not already, is the explanation of why and how tensegrity (magical passes) functions, will leap at you

literally tounge
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Yes, I am familiar with the magical passes.

The experiences I posted here all took place in 2004. At the apex I reached a singularity of sorts when I was finally able to 'stop the world'. I couldn't do this by myself. My encounter with the old man pushed me to that extreme.

I don't consider myself a shaman. I am merely a warrior who humbly seeks impeccability in his own eyes. A am just a man striving to be a 'man of knowledge'.

My 'ways' are derived from the teachings of Don Juan Matus contained in the works of Castaneda. My methods come from my ever changing interpretation of Don Juan's knowledge.

My purpose here is to share some of my personal experiences with others in the hope that they will somehow benefit from it...and perhaps I will benefit from it too.

I don't know of what discoveries or revelations you and those you know have made in the last 5 years. Whatever they are, I sincerely hope they serve you well.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Yes, I am familiar with the magical passes.

The experiences I posted here all took place in 2004. At the apex I reached a singularity of sorts when I was finally able to 'stop the world'. I couldn't do this by myself. My encounter with the old man pushed me to that extreme.

I don't consider myself a shaman. I am merely a warrior who humbly seeks impeccability in his own eyes. A am just a man striving to be a 'man of knowledge'.

My 'ways' are derived from the teachings of Don Juan Matus contained in the works of Castaneda. My methods come from my ever changing interpretation of Don Juan's knowledge.

My purpose here is to share some of my personal experiences with others in the hope that they will somehow benefit from it...and perhaps I will benefit from it too.

I don't know of what discoveries or revelations you and those you know have made in the last 5 years. Whatever they are, I sincerely hope they serve you well.
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Evil is a degradation, not an opposite.

That I absolutely agree with. Real evil is corrosive. If it wasn't, it would have dominated every aspect of our being by now.

The only reason it can't, is because it naturally decays and destroys itself.
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that says evil is a stand alone something that exists in it`s own right devoid of human contact/existence

like in the air or out in space somewhere on it`s own if it desires

is that true?
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I don't know. I think the true essence of evil lies in the domain of the unknowable.

I think it is related to the 'phantoms' that Castaneda wrote about. I believe that the ancient Sumerians (or perhaps some other ancient culture...I remember vaguely reading about it) referenced inorganic beings that closely matched this description.
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there exists a dimension/domain we can never know
but we do know it exists
in there
evil most likely exists
and
our ancestors tell non living beings resemble a description labeled evil

if i may ask jonny does your faith (religion) tell you this or have you discovered this knowing yourself?
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notice our environment is telling you something and you are trying to tell our environment what it is telling you?

you and it are not matching information because you have decided you know what it must be telling and you are attempting to fit the meaning of your experiences (feedback) into the shape (structure) that you know they must form
therefore you continue to vary your way of discovering whilst you never vary the motive for discovery as you fail to notice you force your life into an unnatural circular experience devoid of it`s natural singular vortical effect (direction)

All physical existences are weaved in vortical motion; nothing physical in nature is not vortical.
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Much like putting it in your own perspective, rather than relying on outside definitions. It is fine to have those outside articles to peruse, but it still must be placed within your own experiential field and related to there, not outside of that field.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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You're comparing statements I have made about things I can't be certain of to stories of personal experiences that I have had and drawing conclusions. But how would they be any more valid than the conclusions I have drawn from my own personal experiences?


"notice our environment is telling you something and you are trying to tell our environment what it is telling you?"

Am I? I thought I was stalking myself. Acting without believing. I was acting without expecting anything to happen, and my reason was just DYING for nothing out of the ordinary to occur. When something out of the ordinary did occur, my reason was forced to try to categorize it...to make it fit in to the world it is comfortable with...the world where truth's don't contradict one another.

"you and it are not matching information because....(blah blah blah)"

Let me simplify the statement. Me and it are not matching information because my perception is flawed.

Just as yours is.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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lmao

you do know you and i are both wrong

you do not know why we are both wrong

but you know it to be true

is that faith ?
aether

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08/28/2012 01:31 PM

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and i`m laughing because you choose to hide the reality of your faith that possess you

are you on an undercover mission and your faith must never be disclosed?
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September 2, 2011

Lucid on top of a house. Tried making a wall of light from horizon to horizon...my actions really started making things 'stormy'. Interesting that! Rain began pelting down, wind started really picking up.

I stretched my arms out, and in a meditative focus, told God I love God, and to guide my experience.

Movement. I was racing with the wind across landscapes. Large distances were covered. I saw a pyramid. I passed through its outer stones, into the interior. I became a highly focused awareness. My vision narrowed in on hieroglyphs. I cannot remember the exact glyphs.

Vision shifted to an artistic image. Two 'knights' with emblems of a green tree on the shoulder armor that shifted to a hawk or eagle, and back to tree, over and over. They were kneeling inside a cave, planting or digging up a rose vine, with one rose at the pinnacle of the vine, reaching straight towards the skies.

The scene dissolved and reformed, as if time had elapsed. The cave had 'collapsed', and the knights long gone. The rose vine still thrust into the sky, and all around, the land was broken.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865798

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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08/28/2012 01:36 PM
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Here's one for you Blaze.


November, sometime in 2008.

They came perhaps three times, of what I can remember, during a stretch of time. I have stopped writing down the experiences. They are too much ‘beyond the realm of possibility’. It makes me aggravated to learn the experience is very, very far beyond the merely physical. There are some of you that would ask why, like I would, when those types of experiences are the truly magnificent ones. Well, let me see if I can explain.

I have a truly unique set of close friends. We have trusted each other with nearly every secret of our lives. We happen to be extremely open and honest and forthright in many, many aspects of living. From fear of one’s own life, to death untimely death of a spouse, to the birth of children, parenting, divorce, business, love, relationships. And… mistakes, mistakes, mistakes.

Fully touch the physical, and there can be nearly complete understanding. Lightly touch the spiritual, and there can be some understanding. Touch UFOs, NDEs, OBEs, visions and lucid dreaming and there are possibilities. Touch on the subject of actual interaction or experience with the above, and belief is suspended. Yes, it is there in the imagination to live and breathe. How many nights spent contemplating those very subjects? How many nights debating the impact of Quantum sciences and theoretical sciences? How many nights wondering what God is composed of? But put any and all into the context of a real life experience, and all bets go out the window.

So the Visitors come. I retain memory of their comings or goings, never sure exactly which I am consciously remembering. The interior of the experience, the body of the story, is always a vast question. Be patient I hear myself say.

On to the journal.

They come. Fear consumes me for what seems an hour before They make Their presence known. It is not a comfortable place or time to be in. Whether it is Their fear that I am picking up empathically, or it is truly my fear does not matter… it is one in the same.

I am not talking like a whacked out guru, or some spiritual mystic with some deep meaning. Let me tell you, I have fully felt this same consuming energy in lucid dreams. But when speaking of the norm… when two entities that do not understand each other’s emotional states are vibrating in unison, it becomes a feedback loop. Think that seems far-fetched? We see it all the time in marriages, business partnerships, etc. Now, we see it in geopolitics, national security, education… nearly every facet of our society that is led by our ‘leaders’. Fucking dualistic systems! Dualism is the sole ingredient to the feedback loop.

Oh yeah, back to this experience.

Mantis ET. It was bending over me in bed. I do not know if that physical sight of It was before or after the actual experience. I was pulled out my bedroom window. I do not know if this was a physical pulling or an OBE pulling. I do not know if It did the pulling, or I did. A vehicle saturated in red was in the grass below. We were heading towards it. The next thing I remember is looking at my hands and arms. They were dissolving! They were interacting with an energy field and once passing through that field, they molecularly dissolved. That is the best way I can explain it. Unfamiliar with this procedure? It is available in many articles, online or in print, on the abduction experience. But there is one thing the articles can never explain to you. It is the utter multi-dimensionality of the experience. Colors that can never be described nor seen in 4 dimensions exist. It is the highest of ‘High-Definition’. Feelings, once reaching unison – or harmony – are incredibly multiplied. The feelings I am referring to are not overpowering from one individual, but are exponentially gathered from both.

This is the area of psyche that I believe JOHN MACK was so successful in tapping into.

Where We went, where We travelled to, I cannot consciously remember.

The next and last thing I remember is this dark silhouette reaching over me. I jerked my mind/body in surprise and fear. It began molecularly dissolving, starting from Its hands back. It pulled away from me at the same time. I started wishing it wouldn’t leave. There was and still is so much I want to know. “Please don’t leave… Please don’t leave,” I remember saying. I tried reaching out to It, but I was still paralyzed. My heart thumping in my chest like I was dying was giving me more truth to the reality of it all when looked through the lens of my memories.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
Jonny Blaze (OP)

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08/28/2012 03:56 PM

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lmao

you do know you and i are both wrong

you do not know why we are both wrong

but you know it to be true

is that faith ?
 Quoting: aether


I know that we don't have time to figure it out. If we had more time...perhaps we would know these answers that elude us all.

It's only because death is stalking him that a warrior has to believe that the world is an endless mystery and what people do in it an endless folly.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
Jonny Blaze (OP)

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08/28/2012 04:09 PM

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Thank you for the dream entries, Ss.

Despite the fact that I will never fully understand them, your experiences are welcomed here.

If I pick up a piece here...a piece there...hmmmm..drop this piece...pick up that one...

...oh wait. I'm picking up and dropping small objects. It goes against my philippic!!

Damn you Demosthenes!!

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 08/28/2012 04:10 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.

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