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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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I'd like to know why they won't be able to do spiritual work. Seems pretty unfair to me.. how the fuck is anyone growing up in the modern era supposed to remain pure until they get a desire to know Truth? Impossible. We live in a degenerate society, staying pure just isn't going to happen unless you live away from schools and culture.
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Love and Sexuality

Preamble

Because it offers a comprehension of love and sexuality according to an Initial Philosophy: for discovering the divine gift of what Plato talked about in the Symposium: “Here is, so I declare it, the energy of love (eros) is, the most ancient and worthiest, among gods. It has the greatest titles for driving the man on the virtue and happiness way, both in life and in kingdom of afterlife”. So, we set out some reflections drawn by the disciplines of the Initial Philosophy (kabbala, alchemy, symbolism, tarots, astrology, yoga tantra) with the hope to furnish, to our visitors, internal stimulus to analyze and to face up better the demonstration of love and sexuality in the daily life.

What does initial philosophy bring about original, compared with the generic philosophical religious approach, and compared with that psychoanalytical and psychological?

Concretely, how can love (platonic winged eros) conduct us on this way, predicted by many evolved creatures? How to direct this extraordinary energy towards the predestinate aim and not stopped at halfway? So, what is the predestinate half? Does this aim involve sadness, inexpressible privations and the cessation of the pleasure? Or, is it an approaching to a new pleasure, more intense and thinner, to new joys? Moreover, this sense would have a spiritual run if this had to conduct to sadness and privation?

Probably, it only need substitute a rough, temporary and carrier, in the time of poisons and bitterness, pleasure with another kind of pleasure which develops light, knowledge, joy and generosity. The fear to abdicate the most immediate pleasure, stops sometimes the enter and the experimentation of ancient truths.

Is this love, that man knows in the affective sphere, different from love that move the sun and the other stars" of which Dante, the Supreme Poet ("L'amor che move il sole e l'altre stelle" in Paradise XXXIII, 145) talked about?

That this energy can help us to fly and ,so, to feed our spiritual centers (chakra), symbolically, it is well-known since the antiquity. In fact, The winged dragon, fantastic animal knew to all the mythologies and at present also in the Christian iconography, is the symbol of the existing instinctive strengths in the man and of their possible transformation. Subduing and steering these strength to use them as mean of propulsion towards the most elevated peaks of the spirit, represents the deep sense of the spiritual run that everyone is, or it will be, called to complete it.

The predestination of the man is to develop, here on the earth, his divine quality and the sexual energy. The energy of love is the resource, inseparable from the practice of the virtues, predestinate to feed the development of the spiritual organs of the man (chakra).

It is necessary to add that it doesn't mean to dominate the sexual energy for not committing a sin, but it means to sublime it... it doesn't need to repress it, but to sensitize it, and to direct it upward; this is its predestination and it brings suffering or mere renouncement in the man. But to enrich him, to give him more elevated and more intense joys, that’s why, if energy goes upward, it feeds the spiritual, extraordinary centers (chakras) that everyone has got effectively, if also to the latent state, made exception for the evolved creatures, the geniuses and above all the Saints whose spiritual gifts are apparent and visible to everybody.

Certainly it is not an easy job, whose result can be programmed to temporal level. It doesn't deal with applying mental techniques in theory, tout court, but to develop, day by day, with humility, simplicity and tolerance also towards themselves, a state of conscience, a whole of so many small daily behaviors more and more elevated, so a day it can be tasted, also on the earth, that fullness, that joy to which our soul strongly and naturally long for.

Continue to read:
[link to digilander.libero.it]
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You guys are weird.
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premises and circular logic

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"What is this 'most powerful force of all forces' about which Hermes Trismegistus speaks? It is the sexual force, since no other force in the universe can compare to it; no other force has the power to create life. Hermes Trismegistus also says of this force that 'the sun is its father', which means that sexual energy is of the same nature as solar energy, that it is impregnated with the holiness, light, and life of the sun. Its use is not therefore limited to procreation; it can also be consecrated to creations of a spiritual order. But how many human beings are ready to admit that this act by which man fertilises woman can become a solar activity? "

"The Christian religion greatly complicated and obscured the question of sexuality by declaring that Jesus was born of a virgin through the workings of the Holy Spirit. As a result, the word ‘purity’ could be understood only in a very narrow sense, with all kinds of catastrophic consequences, not only for the believers but for members of the clergy themselves. How could all these monks and nuns in the convents blossom when the purity they were taught was actually an adversary of life? But life holds its own. When people attempt to repress their sexual energy instead of understanding why and how to channel it, inevitably one day it results in events analogous to the breach of a dam. It should come as no surprise that such a ‘breach’ has sometimes provoked excesses and led men and women to insane and criminal behaviour."

"More and more, human beings are trying to break down the barriers of sexual morality. Because they are ignorant, they do not realise that this kind of disorder is burning up their divine energies. It is as if they are fuelling a furnace with the substance of their own being. This fire cannot be fuelled with the neighbours' wood or the trees of the forest, but by their own reserves, their own combustibles, their own quintessence. In order to maintain this excitement and these volcanic eruptions on a daily basis, they are obliged to burn their most precious energies. Each time, without knowing it, they lose some of their intelligence, their strength, and their beauty, and this is what they call freedom!"

"A dam does not prevent water from flowing. Anyone who builds a dam on a river knows he must provide other waterways, or the river will eventually overflow and carry away everything in its path. Well, the same thing applies to human beings: if they repress their instincts, and particularly the sexual instinct, tensions accumulate in their subconscious and at a given moment carry everything away with them. We must not waste our energies, but neither must we block them. The solution lies in channelling them so that they can irrigate our lands, just as the Egyptians in the past dug ditches so that the waters of the Nile fertilised their country. In fact, nature herself has already installed channels in human beings so that their sexual energies can be directed towards the brain, and just because anatomists have not yet discovered and written about these channels does not mean that they do not exist. It is up to you to discover them, and to work every day to become more lucid, more intelligent and more creative."

"‘It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles… What comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles.’ If we want to understand Jesus’ words, we must refer to what initiatic Science reveals about the human being and his different bodies: physical, astral, mental, causal, buddhic and atmic.

The astral body is the seat of emotion, of feelings and desires, and it is represented in us by what we call the heart. What comes out of our mouth originates in the heart, and it is this that defiles us if we have not learned to purify our astral body. The mouth in question here is obviously the astral mouth. Nothing material comes out of our physical mouth, which only ingests and swallows. On the other hand, many things come out through the astral mouth, since feelings, emotions and desires are expressed through it, and when they are inspired by our lower nature we are defiled. Before defiling others, we defile ourselves. "

"Each year, on December 25, Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus, and in all the churches a crib is set up for him. The child is there lying on a pile of straw while Mary and Joseph watch over him, but there is also an ass and an ox. We can never forget the ass and the ox - they are so closely linked to the birth of Jesus. Why? Because this representation is symbolic and corresponds to some processes that take place in human beings. The stable represents the physical body. The ox represents sexual energy. As for the ass, it represents what we call 'the old Adam', a self-centered, headstrong and stubborn but good servant.

When man decides to improve himself so that Christ may be born within him, he comes in conflict with the forces of his lower nature and his sexuality. It is these forces that he must master and put to work for the divine child. That is why we say that, in the stable, the ass and the ox breathed on the child Jesus and warmed him with their breath... When human beings succeed in transforming within themselves the ass and the ox, then they can warm and nourish the newborn child. All those who have succeeded in bringing Christ to birth within themselves will be served by the forces of their lower nature and their sexuality, for these are extraordinarily useful energies, provided we can harness them to a job."

"So many youngsters say they feel disappointment after certain sexual experiences. Beforehand they felt light, open, happy, whereas now they feel heavy, ill at ease, even ashamed. They no longer have this light that once lit up their faces, and they say: ‘We didn't realize it was like this. If only we had known!' Yes indeed, young people all over the world do not know what awaits them when they launch themselves prematurely and thoughtlessly into certain experiences, and what is more, it does not interest them to know. What they seek is pleasure, to experience feelings. But more often than not it is not happiness that awaits them, but regret, something dark, something burdensome. And when they realize they have made a mistake, it is too late; this understanding is no longer of any use."

"So many boys and girls are disappointed and sorry after certain sexual experiences! Up until then they felt light and happy, whereas now a heaviness has entered them, and they feel uneasy, ashamed even. Their gaze is no longer as clear, and they say, ‘I didn’t know it was like that. If only I had known!’
That’s right, boys and girls the world over do not know what awaits them when they casually embark on certain experiences before they are ready for them. And what’s more, at that time they are not interested in knowing: what they want is to experience pleasure and try out new sensations. But then, more often than not, it is not happiness but dissatisfaction that awaits them – the feeling of having lost something. And when they understand they have made a mistake, their understanding no longer serves any purpose; it has come too late. Well, who is there to warn them? And will they listen?"

"Young people have been given to understand that they have total freedom to live their sexual life as they see fit. But should we be happy to see them sad, wounded and spent after their premature experiences have cost them their feathers? Did anyone warn them that repeatedly engaging in all these volcanic eruptions would not be without consequences, that they would burn their most precious quintessence?

I am not condemning either sexual relations or pleasure. It can all be magnificent and constructive, provided you understand that sexual energy is a force to be treated with caution. As with petrol, those who are ignorant and foolhardy get burnt. They burn their quintessence, whereas those who know how to use this energy can fly into space. Yes, it is petrol that best illustrates the question of sexual energy."

"A beautiful princess is held captive by a dragon in a castle filled with great treasure - this is a theme found in the folktales of all countries. Several knights come forward and attempt to free her, but they are all defeated by the dragon...until one day a handsome prince arrives, to whom a magician, who knows the dragon's weaknesses, has divulged the secret for conquering it. Once victorious, the prince frees the princess, and what sweet kisses they exchange! Henceforth, all the treasures hoarded for centuries in the castle belong to this handsome prince, who has gained victory, thanks to his knowledge, courage, and love. Then, mounted on the fire-breathing dragon, the prince and princess depart to travel the world.

In fact, these tales have a deep initiatic meaning, because they speak of the human being and his psychic life. The dragon represents the sexual force; the castle is the body with all its treasures; the princess is the soul, which the prince, the ego, must liberate. Finally, the prince's weapons are the means we have at our disposal: the will and knowledge which allow us to master this force and put it to use."

hf
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Didn't you have another thread with this topic yesterday? I thought I posted on it already, but not sure.

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OP, this is a very profound article. It begs to question, given your premise, is this why Gandhi choose not to have sex with his wife for all those long years? Was he channelling his energy upward into a more productive use?

I do hope you come back and share more. And, please, ignor the childish posts that are just a part of what makes GLP a great place to come and learn how to live,lear how to laugh and learn howw to be a square peg in a round hole..

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More judeocentric bullshit...go take a hike OP
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OP is basically saying all you wankers are going to hell. It's an old story that they never get tired of telling.
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"Human beings are inhabited by an age-old instinct driving them to give free rein to their impulses, however base these may be. Over the years they have felt the need for some moral rules, not from a true need to live moral lives, however, but because they have found it to be in their best interest. Indeed if theft and any kind of aggression are prohibited and punished then life is far safer for everyone. But this ‘moral life' is far from being perfect because human beings continue to try and live their lives at the expense of others. They even go so far as to seek to eliminate them all together. This may not always be on the physical plane – because they risk being caught and punished – but on other planes where it is not so obvious. They steel other people's thoughts, they steel their feelings, or even destroy them with what they say and write. So the same instincts basically manifest themselves and the same crimes are committed, but in more subtle forms and spheres. So long as human beings are not instructed in initiatic science and so learn to give their instincts a spiritual direction, all their lower impulses will remain destructive forces, which will succeed in finding their own way."
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food for thought ?
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Didn't you have another thread with this topic yesterday? I thought I posted on it already, but not sure.

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me too. I know I posted a reply on it & a few hours later the thread vanished. Since OP is not a paid member, he cannot delete threads, so who did? hmmmmmmm
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It is a better take on responsible sexuality than the retarded one the Christian's have. It also a better take than absolute hedonism.
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The physical body and sense of touch has 2 basic feelings which is pleasure and pain, the later tells us we are doing something harmful but the former tells us we are doing something good......sex is a potent energy and it is psychic in nature, it should be a unifying force that brings people together....the hippies had it right when they chanted "make love, not war" back in the sixties.
But its been degraded to tear people apart,look at the divisions between man & woman now, the wars, racial and cultural hatred......what this world needs is for the entire population to have a massive orgy and orgasm at the same time..... I would rather see that then to see the entire world frustrated in celabacy.
I post this with good sense and nonsense coz thats what seems to make up GLP right now....
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So you're not getting any, huh OPie?
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Have all the sex you want, except on the couple days of the month when the moon is in your birth sign. Then you will have no problems spiritually.
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Careful with what you quote from Hermes, OP.

The New Age religion might just start to be seen rightfully as the Old Age one, and then TPTB's plans will be fucked and you'll be to blame =)
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OP, have you ever read the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor?..you'd probably find it interesting...
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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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Elitism and/or hierarchical delusions are also very tempting, tough, challenging and suppressive mistresses friend...and I see by your many thread ..also very addictive too.

....Personally I prefer to be humble and enjoy (or waste... as you seem to think) this bipolar human experience and life for what it is! Sadly it seems many don't seem to manage this without falling prey to self-or external delusional....and waste their whole lives wanting to artificially judge and then put in place rules and regulations in order to control themselves and life ..which of course they never fully succeed..so more fool them,

but hey if it rocks you boat friend fine, but please understand that being in this bipolar universe ensure that there will always be many who equally and naturally don't subscribe to you point of view in the slightest...which of course add to the bipolar paradox you are already stuck in...which strangely I am not.
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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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Elitism and/or hierarchical delusions are also very tempting, tough, challenging and suppressive mistresses friend...and I see by your many thread ..also very addictive too.

....Personally I prefer to be humble and enjoy (or waste... as you seem to think) this bipolar human experience and life for what it is! Sadly it seems many don't seem to manage this without falling prey to self-or external delusional....and waste their whole lives wanting to artificially judge and then put in place rules and regulations in order to control themselves and life ..which of course they never fully succeed..so more fool them,

but hey if it rocks you boat friend fine, but please understand that being in this bipolar universe ensure that there will always be many who equally and naturally don't subscribe to you point of view in the slightest...which of course add to the bipolar paradox you are already stuck in...which strangely I am not.
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Thankfully, we are all individuals with different physical and spiritual needs. Therefore, what works for you may not work for someone else. No one here is forcing the teachings down your throat. You've made your point, so move on.
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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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friend if we all supposedly came from a single elemental source whether from a singular unstable god or unstable big bangs or whatever...then the ongoing bipolar nature of reality is just an expanding reflection of the source.

Therefore there is no right or wrong way to be as everything is bipolar and has duality..therefore creating more and more bipolar instability therefore there is no higher or lower values or good or bad, positive or negative..these are just personal perceptions and values established given and often then changed by every bipolar expression.


what I am basically saying is what you say may be important to some and will definitely annoy others..so what really is the point...when there is none.

You see I read your threads and see through that you are trying hard to polarise yourself and therefore feel you have a better grip and control of both the duality in yourself, others and external world...but effectively all you are just continuing to judge and keep a conflicting argument going..which again will create more potential bipolar conflict..because those that you point seemingly hierarchical fingers at may simply feel equally repressed for being themselves.

Therefore don't you see all you are doing is maintaining the destructive bipolar cycle of opposing forces that exists in all things...and don't you ever considered the that this reality is a infinite only because of because of conflicting nature of duality. For even this god if considered perfect and real would never have needed to create or form anything..because there would be no conflict or reason to do so.

therefore friend just enjoy or hate the ride because it isn't going anywhere.
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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realize to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves."

Wouldn't that go the same for...

"Men and women who blindly obey their spiritual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves."
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"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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It's 2012 - only empty, unevolved humans think about, want, and have sex.
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OP has no sex drive, or can't get a partner. He would prefer company in his relatively sexless world, a tortured world wherein even simple pleasures are demonized or denied. I prefer masturbation to flagellation...or both at once if your into that. Sex and orgasms are part of our human birth-right.
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Thanks, your thread inspired me to write this small piece of text: Thread: This is the main reason why to much focus on the sexual deed is so unconstructive.
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10/09/2012 11:15 AM
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Re: Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves
"Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves. 'What dangers?' you will ask. Consider a drunkard: he is completely dazed and anaesthetised with drink. Wine is an excellent thing, but he has abused it, and look at what a state he is in now. Sexual energy is also an excellent thing, and what is more, it has often been compared to wine. But if we abuse it? You will say that you know men and women whose dissolute lives do not prevent them from educating themselves and holding jobs. Yes, of course, sensuality is compatible with certain intellectual and artistic faculties. But if one day they wish to do a spiritual work, they will not be able to, because they will have lost the necessary elements, their most precious quintessence, and moreover they will no longer have the desire to rise higher in themselves. Consider another example: bees which have gorged themselves on honey become too heavy to fly. It is the same with men and women who have not learned to master their sexual instincts: they can continue to do all sorts of work, but they cannot fly. The heavenly regions are forbidden to them."
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Oh, I agree.
But you didn't mention the fact that there are forces which have a vested interest in making people blindly obey those sexual impulses.

Cui Bono, remember ?
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10/09/2012 11:18 AM
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Re: Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves
OP is basically saying all you wankers are going to hell. It's an old story that they never get tired of telling.
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That's why in hell, there is only wanking.
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10/09/2012 11:19 AM
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Re: Men and women who blindly obey their sexual impulses do not realise to what psychic dangers they are exposing themselves
I'd like to know why they won't be able to do spiritual work. Seems pretty unfair to me.. how the fuck is anyone growing up in the modern era supposed to remain pure until they get a desire to know Truth? Impossible. We live in a degenerate society, staying pure just isn't going to happen unless you live away from schools and culture.
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for once i agree with somebody on glp..you just cant stay celibate here so much sex on tv,in real life...women..men always thinking of sex,doing sex,behaving in immoral manner

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