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RadChick talked BP, Fukushima & the sinkhole on her show yesterday. I hope I'm not jumping the gun by posting this ahead of her. Its an hour long and well worth listening to.



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Lmao Indigo, just asked her if I could post it for her, you beat me to it...she said 'cool :) She's working on Thurs show right now, yesterday was the intro, more in depth tomorrow.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Feds buy a prison for "domestic criminals". This makes me shutter.

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RadChick talked BP, Fukushima & the sinkhole on her show yesterday. I hope I'm not jumping the gun by posting this ahead of her. Its an hour long and well worth listening to.



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Lmao Indigo, just asked her if I could post it for her, you beat me to it...she said 'cool :) She's working on Thurs show right now, yesterday was the intro, more in depth tomorrow.
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Great minds? I was afraid she would be busy & not get it posted. Figured I'd take the chance of her yelling at me, if it meant getting the word out.
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Thanks for the insight siniXster - have to admit I was already thinking in line with your posts, but just hate to look full into the 'pool of ugly' they have planned. I still have a gut feeling that 'they' will pick a time when the most attention is diverted...debate, football, whatever. I know they aren't worried about the human toll, but that kind of monstrous thinking is hard to get my head around.

In the event this is survivable, I have just about as much in place as I can do. Only a couple more things to get/do, then only time will tell.

THanks for all your good info, everyone. Too many to call by name, but some of you out there are research wizards!!!
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My pleasure Granny, and thanx for yours. Hugging

Still a cpl things here too, getn antsy, lol
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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RadChick talked BP, Fukushima & the sinkhole on her show yesterday. I hope I'm not jumping the gun by posting this ahead of her. Its an hour long and well worth listening to.



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 Quoting: IndigoMoon

Lmao Indigo, just asked her if I could post it for her, you beat me to it...she said 'cool :) She's working on Thurs show right now, yesterday was the intro, more in depth tomorrow.
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Great minds? I was afraid she would be busy & not get it posted. Figured I'd take the chance of her yelling at me, if it meant getting the word out.
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Very intuitive spock perfect call, she was brainstorming as you posted :)
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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RadChick talked BP, Fukushima & the sinkhole on her show yesterday. I hope I'm not jumping the gun by posting this ahead of her. Its an hour long and well worth listening to.



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 Quoting: IndigoMoon

Lmao Indigo, just asked her if I could post it for her, you beat me to it...she said 'cool :) She's working on Thurs show right now, yesterday was the intro, more in depth tomorrow.
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Great minds? I was afraid she would be busy & not get it posted. Figured I'd take the chance of her yelling at me, if it meant getting the word out.
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hfhf~~Thank you IndigoMoon and all the wonderful others who have contributed here. I found today several other youtubers that are coming to similar conclusions and scenarios all independant of each other, which is very telling. Trying to put the show together for tomorrow and the info is ever-expanding and difficult to simplify. I don't want to overwhelm people who are new to this but at the same time our bug-out plans need to be refined/defined more specifically taking this into consideration. But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awarenesshfhf

ps. Feel free to post any of my stuff, anytime. RC
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Feds buy a prison for "domestic criminals". This makes me shutter.

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What makes me go from shutter to shakey you ask? The fact that prison's are businesses for sale. Walkin down the money trail, the money trail...oops, wrong song :)
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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And check this out, sub this guy if you havent already:



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Feds buy a prison for "domestic criminals". This makes me shutter.

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President Barack Obama’s administration to transfer terrorism detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Thomson has been abandoned, and that those housed at the new federal prison will be domestic criminals

Damn man, could they be more out in the open.
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I spoke to friends in the area...an hour away. They are starting to get nervous about the sinkhole and tell me that there is quite a bit of concern in the area now. A few weeks ago they didn't seem worried but they do today. Just thought I would share.
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I just watched the video posted by RadChick...Lies Uncovered LA. Sinkhole. I am no longer shuttering....I am now having seizures!
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I just watched the video posted by RadChick...Lies Uncovered LA. Sinkhole. I am no longer shuttering....I am now having seizures!
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Me too. And I dare the naysayers to jump on this thread and continue to spew that this is not a huge deal after watching them. I'm doing my best to enjoy the beautiful Fall weather today while in the back of my mind, I keep wondering just how many more we will have. verysad
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I spoke to friends in the area...an hour away. They are starting to get nervous about the sinkhole and tell me that there is quite a bit of concern in the area now. A few weeks ago they didn't seem worried but they do today. Just thought I would share.
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Thank you, Fire Watch. Its good to know someone in the area is paying attention.
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Radchick Quote:"But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awareness" unquote

What makes it bad for me Radchick is I HAVE to bug out! I am in a bad location where I am and completely unable to go until it is time! Hubby doesn't believe anything is going to happen,family and friends are the same. The few preps I have isn't enough. Plus I have a disabled son. I am wave central if something happens in the Atlantic, which is going to. You would have to go back to the best El Hierro thread to get that info. What makes it harder on me, the people I feel more of a kindred spirit with are on the other side of th country! I would much rather be with people that feel like I do and are prepared on ALL levels than people that are still completely asleep! That makes for a dangerous situation ya know.
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If you can't get away, then make peace with your God. This is my only advice, as I am in the same boat you are sister.

Everyone thinks I'm nuts. I'm refilling Pepsi 2-liters with tap water when we drink em, and they all laugh. Yeah, laugh now, assholes, but you'll be kissing my feet when the water shuts off. And to boot, we are in the Mississippi river bottom. The only reason we can live where we live is bcause of the pumps. Flood in 93 was tricky here, for sure. But the levees and the pumps held, I don't think it will be that way this time.

I've told my husband that we needed to get to the ozarks, but we've waited too long and now we will have to bed down here. So I've prepared with all the things I can think of, but when the water comes, this shit will not all fit in the boat. I told him that st Louis will be a perfect spot for a nuke. One bridge houses 4 interstates crossing the Mississippi. One blast and you've split the country. There are other bridges, but that one is the main crossing to the west.


Sorry for the derail, but tensions grow even more if you don't vent them. I'm praying for us all, and trying like hell NOT to wish harm upon those who would sacrifice us for themselves.

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If you can't get away, then make peace with your God. This is my only advice, as I am in the same boat you are sister.

Everyone thinks I'm nuts. I'm refilling Pepsi 2-liters with tap water when we drink em, and they all laugh. Yeah, laugh now, assholes, but you'll be kissing my feet when the water shuts off. And to boot, we are in the Mississippi river bottom. The only reason we can live where we live is bcause of the pumps. Flood in 93 was tricky here, for sure. But the levees and the pumps held, I don't think it will be that way this time.

I've told my husband that we needed to get to the ozarks, but we've waited too long and now we will have to bed down here. So I've prepared with all the things I can think of, but when the water comes, this shit will not all fit in the boat. I told him that st Louis will be a perfect spot for a nuke. One bridge houses 4 interstates crossing the Mississippi. One blast and you've split the country. There are other bridges, but that one is the main crossing to the west.


Sorry for the derail, but tensions grow even more if you don't vent them. I'm praying for us all, and trying like hell NOT to wish harm upon those who would sacrifice us for themselves.
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Best of luck,wish! We will hope for the best.

The grid will go down and the entire US is in deep shit if things go bad in LA. Stock up on food, water, meds & ammo as a start.

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Radchick Quote:"But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awareness" unquote

I would much rather be with people that feel like I do and are prepared on ALL levels than people that are still completely asleep! That makes for a dangerous situation ya know.
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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Radchick Quote:"But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awareness" unquote

I would much rather be with people that feel like I do and are prepared on ALL levels than people that are still completely asleep! That makes for a dangerous situation ya know.
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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Yes hf
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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I LOVE this comment Waterbug! I am sitting here completely stunned after listening to that vid for the last hour. It seems weird when you think your *in the know* and all that, to have the reality of it all smashed in your head at once :( Tying all the pieces together.
Thank God there is people like you that think like this.


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Radchick Quote:"But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awareness" unquote

I would much rather be with people that feel like I do and are prepared on ALL levels than people that are still completely asleep! That makes for a dangerous situation ya know.
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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Yes hf
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Ditto. hf
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Like BUG (Believersunderground) always says, "Information is Shock Resistance"

I truly believe that.

As much as we THINK we know, how much more aware are you of what is going on from a year ago? A month ago? Even...Yesterday?

If and when the SHTF, running these scenarios in your head NOW is much easier than doing it after the fact, when most will be, well, in shock.

And even if nothing happens soon, think of how much more educated you are, and aware. Some of which may only mean you've plugged in your BS meter and will use it for the rest of your life.

There is opportunity in everything, much of us probably agree the world needs a RESET button, although this certainly isn't the way i would want that to happen.

But there is a silver lining to everything. We may not know what it is now, but when the time comes, your ability to distinguish lies and deceit from truth, danger from safety, and your survival mechanism which is now engaged (and should always be except it has been deprogrammed from our psyche through a variety of mechanisms) will assist you.

You are in charge of your experience.

hf
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Radchick Quote:"But my fear is bugging out will not be possible, sheltering in is a much more likely scenario...which we can work around with the right frame of mind and awareness" unquote

I would much rather be with people that feel like I do and are prepared on ALL levels than people that are still completely asleep! That makes for a dangerous situation ya know.
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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Yes hf
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Ditto. hf
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Double dittoshf
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If you can't get away, then make peace with your God. This is my only advice, as I am in the same boat you are sister.

Everyone thinks I'm nuts. I'm refilling Pepsi 2-liters with tap water when we drink em, and they all laugh. Yeah, laugh now, assholes, but you'll be kissing my feet when the water shuts off. And to boot, we are in the Mississippi river bottom. The only reason we can live where we live is bcause of the pumps. Flood in 93 was tricky here, for sure. But the levees and the pumps held, I don't think it will be that way this time.

I've told my husband that we needed to get to the ozarks, but we've waited too long and now we will have to bed down here. So I've prepared with all the things I can think of, but when the water comes, this shit will not all fit in the boat. I told him that st Louis will be a perfect spot for a nuke. One bridge houses 4 interstates crossing the Mississippi. One blast and you've split the country. There are other bridges, but that one is the main crossing to the west.


Sorry for the derail, but tensions grow even more if you don't vent them. I'm praying for us all, and trying like hell NOT to wish harm upon those who would sacrifice us for themselves.
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Best of luck,wish! We will hope for the best.

The grid will go down and the entire US is in deep shit if things go bad in LA. Stock up on food, water, meds & ammo as a start.
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Thanks. And it has to get BAD for it to get up here. I know that. But it never hurts to be prepared so if the SHTF then you can help others. We are in this together, no matter what the powers that be tell you. WE HAVE EACH OTHER. And thank God, some of us have discernment onour side.too. :)
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Like BUG (Believersunderground) always says, "Information is Shock Resistance"

I truly believe that.

As much as we THINK we know, how much more aware are you of what is going on from a year ago? A month ago? Even...Yesterday?

If and when the SHTF, running these scenarios in your head NOW is much easier than doing it after the fact, when most will be, well, in shock.

And even if nothing happens soon, think of how much more educated you are, and aware. Some of which may only mean you've plugged in your BS meter and will use it for the rest of your life.

There is opportunity in everything, much of us probably agree the world needs a RESET button, although this certainly isn't the way i would want that to happen.

But there is a silver lining to everything. We may not know what it is now, but when the time comes, your ability to distinguish lies and deceit from truth, danger from safety, and your survival mechanism which is now engaged (and should always be except it has been deprogrammed from our psyche through a variety of mechanisms) will assist you.

You are in charge of your experience.

hf
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People around the world are hearing and taking note. The spirit within humanity being indestructible has no claims to distance or borders. hf
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There is a fire at Exxon Refinery in Baytown, TX
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There is a fire at Exxon Refinery in Baytown, TX
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major? any links? tia!
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Google "fire at Exxon Baytown, TX"
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