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Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.

 
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I hope everyone has got out ok.
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Wow!
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Wow!
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hmmm...

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When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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Fire is still burning I see.
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
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What an inspiring message during these difficult times:
"Don't worry...We are everywhere."

Thank your for the reminder.
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How do you think this relates to what East Texas said about scenario 3 happening in Texas. How could a fire at a plant be related to the salt dome sinkhole?
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Fire is still burning I see.
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I suspect it might burn for a while. Don't know how much info is being released.
~Marsute~
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10/03/2012 08:48 PM
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Like BUG (Believersunderground) always says, "Information is Shock Resistance"

I truly believe that.

As much as we THINK we know, how much more aware are you of what is going on from a year ago? A month ago? Even...Yesterday?

If and when the SHTF, running these scenarios in your head NOW is much easier than doing it after the fact, when most will be, well, in shock.

And even if nothing happens soon, think of how much more educated you are, and aware. Some of which may only mean you've plugged in your BS meter and will use it for the rest of your life.

There is opportunity in everything, much of us probably agree the world needs a RESET button, although this certainly isn't the way i would want that to happen.

But there is a silver lining to everything. We may not know what it is now, but when the time comes, your ability to distinguish lies and deceit from truth, danger from safety, and your survival mechanism which is now engaged (and should always be except it has been deprogrammed from our psyche through a variety of mechanisms) will assist you.

You are in charge of your experience.

hf
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This seems to be very true, Rad. I would have thought I was VERY informed of the antics of our controllers (in my own mind), since 9 1 1, very aware, read, researched, thought stuff thru A LOT.

But I will admit...after listening to your vid...I had to shut the machine down, take a walk thru my woods, sit down and contemplate it all, sitting with my dogs, amongst the birds. I would call it some kind of information shock, so to speak. Maybe I will head over to Bug's YT, ain't been there in a while. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication hf
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Like BUG (Believersunderground) always says, "Information is Shock Resistance"

I truly believe that.

As much as we THINK we know, how much more aware are you of what is going on from a year ago? A month ago? Even...Yesterday?

If and when the SHTF, running these scenarios in your head NOW is much easier than doing it after the fact, when most will be, well, in shock.

And even if nothing happens soon, think of how much more educated you are, and aware. Some of which may only mean you've plugged in your BS meter and will use it for the rest of your life.

There is opportunity in everything, much of us probably agree the world needs a RESET button, although this certainly isn't the way i would want that to happen.

But there is a silver lining to everything. We may not know what it is now, but when the time comes, your ability to distinguish lies and deceit from truth, danger from safety, and your survival mechanism which is now engaged (and should always be except it has been deprogrammed from our psyche through a variety of mechanisms) will assist you.

You are in charge of your experience.

hf
 Quoting: RadChick


This seems to be very true, Rad. I would have thought I was VERY informed of the antics of our controllers (in my own mind), since 9 1 1, very aware, read, researched, thought stuff thru A LOT.

But I will admit...after listening to your vid...I had to shut the machine down, take a walk thru my woods, sit down and contemplate it all, sitting with my dogs, amongst the birds. I would call it some kind of information shock, so to speak. Maybe I will head over to Bug's YT, ain't been there in a while. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication hf
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Ditto grouphug
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Don't worry too much.

When the Army Corps. of Engineers flooded Nashville, locals got their fishing boats, canoes, jonboats..
whatever.. and rescued people from the rising water.
Many are not cold-hearted. We are everywhere.

They'll have to kill us all to keep us from helping one another in time of need.. no matter the race, creed or color.
 Quoting: Waterbug


What an inspiring message during these difficult times:
"Don't worry...We are everywhere."

Thank your for the reminder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17382291


Yes same here a BIG Thank You! Something I needed to hear right now. Starting to feel pretty alone where I am. Most people are so self absorbed they don't even give a shit about anything else.
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A heartfelt goodnight to All, much love and peace...stay safe and sweet lucid dreams in the aether.

Farewell and ado to you whom view.
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A heartfelt goodnight to All, much love and peace...stay safe and sweet lucid dreams in the aether.

Farewell and ado to you whom view.
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Goodnight. hf Latest info. From enenews: "Every few days sinkhole gets bigger and gas bubbles spread out" - "My big fear is significant groundwater and aquifer contamination" for that area of Louisiana. ( audio). Sorry, I can't link right now.
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I think it's important that they are beginning to talk about contamination...even though we have already figured that out. Maybe it will help more people to be aware of how bad the situation is...and not just the sinkhole.
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10/03/2012 11:12 PM

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Am listening to RadChick's show that posted above.

To those going to bed ... sleep well! =)
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Am listening to RadChick's show that posted above.

To those going to bed ... sleep well! =)
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RadChick did an excellent job! I am anxiously waiting to hear part 2.
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How do you think this relates to what East Texas said about scenario 3 happening in Texas. How could a fire at a plant be related to the salt dome sinkhole?
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Can someone explain what this is about?

What is "scenario 3"?
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A heartfelt goodnight to All, much love and peace...stay safe and sweet lucid dreams in the aether.

Farewell and ado to you whom view.
 Quoting: siniXster


Goodnight. hf Latest info. From enenews: "Every few days sinkhole gets bigger and gas bubbles spread out" - "My big fear is significant groundwater and aquifer contamination" for that area of Louisiana. ( audio). Sorry, I can't link right now.
 Quoting: SkinnyChic


I went and grabbed it for you. Thanks for the update! hf

[link to www.wjbo.com]

I found a more direct link.

[link to www.wjbo.com]

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How do you think this relates to what East Texas said about scenario 3 happening in Texas. How could a fire at a plant be related to the salt dome sinkhole?
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Can someone explain what this is about?

What is "scenario 3"?
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I think people are still trying to figure out scenario 3 from what I've read.
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How do you think this relates to what East Texas said about scenario 3 happening in Texas. How could a fire at a plant be related to the salt dome sinkhole?
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Can someone explain what this is about?

What is "scenario 3"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


I think people are still trying to figure out scenario 3 from what I've read.
 Quoting: IndigoMoon



Ok thanks . . . I've followed parts of this thread but can't go back and read every page and I have no idea what this refers to . . .
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How do you think this relates to what East Texas said about scenario 3 happening in Texas. How could a fire at a plant be related to the salt dome sinkhole?
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Can someone explain what this is about?

What is "scenario 3"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


I think people are still trying to figure out scenario 3 from what I've read.
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Ok thanks . . . I've followed parts of this thread but can't go back and read every page and I have no idea what this refers to . . .
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Is this related in some way?
[link to www.nctcog.dst.tx.us]
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Just went to USGS home page and this is what popped up:

[link to www.usgs.gov]

WTF? Forever crossed out and that looks like a big crater...idk...maybe I need to go to bed.
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Just went to USGS home page and this is what popped up:

[link to www.usgs.gov]

WTF? Forever crossed out and that looks like a big crater...idk...maybe I need to go to bed.
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^THIS! Me too. Doom Overload.
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Can someone explain what this is about?

What is "scenario 3"?
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I think people are still trying to figure out scenario 3 from what I've read.
 Quoting: IndigoMoon


Ok thanks . . . I've followed parts of this thread but can't go back and read every page and I have no idea what this refers to . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


Is this related in some way?
[link to www.nctcog.dst.tx.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


No clue- but interesting find. Its even called "Scenario 3". Tornado Damage Risk Assessment, Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, A Regional Exercise in Demographic, Environmental, and Urban Analysis February, 2000 Scenario Three Tornado Outbreak Data Centered at –97.21,33.09

Anyone?
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Just went to USGS home page and this is what popped up:

[link to www.usgs.gov]

WTF? Forever crossed out and that looks like a big crater...idk...maybe I need to go to bed.
 Quoting: RadChick


^THIS! Me too. Doom Overload.
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Stamp description: Mount St. Helens and its surrounding area continue to recover from the explosive eruption of May 1980. Shades of white and gray indicate still-bare slopes; dark “rivers” are deep channels cut by fast-moving flows of hot ash, rock and gas. Green represents regrowth of vegetation.

But still, the FOREVER crossed out is unsettling at best.
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Just went to USGS home page and this is what popped up:

[link to www.usgs.gov]

WTF? Forever crossed out and that looks like a big crater...idk...maybe I need to go to bed.
 Quoting: RadChick


I'm sure they just did that to keep jackasses from printing out free postage.

Sorry. Doom off.
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Just went to USGS home page and this is what popped up:

[link to www.usgs.gov]

WTF? Forever crossed out and that looks like a big crater...idk...maybe I need to go to bed.
 Quoting: RadChick


OK- they are a new series of "Earthscape" Forever Stamps. But why cross out forever? Maybe they do that on all of the forever stamps. Anyway- they have a whole series of them.

[link to gallery.usgs.gov]
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I think people are still trying to figure out scenario 3 from what I've read.
 Quoting: IndigoMoon


Ok thanks . . . I've followed parts of this thread but can't go back and read every page and I have no idea what this refers to . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


Is this related in some way?
[link to www.nctcog.dst.tx.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9215614


No clue- but interesting find. Its even called "Scenario 3". Tornado Damage Risk Assessment, Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, A Regional Exercise in Demographic, Environmental, and Urban Analysis February, 2000 Scenario Three Tornado Outbreak Data Centered at –97.21,33.09

Anyone?
 Quoting: IndigoMoon



Although this may have zero to do with this thread, what I find unsettling is the part of the document where it says this:

"The goal is to stress the importance of planning and preparation for the day when this type of event does occur in Dallas-Fort Worth."

And then it goes on to show the path and how much destruction there would be, with the core being an F5!

It shows it going right through downtown Fort Worth and up to the Dam at Lake Grapevine . . . yikes.

Is this some sort of pre-telling of a planned event?!

HAARP induced perhaps?
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Thanks IndigoMoon hf RadChick, I'm with you and the soon overload cause the stamps are freaking me out too. very strange.

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