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Ladyanne...excellent!

WEST OF BATON ROUGE!
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The fact that the top two thirds are in tact also puts paid to the tremors being caused in any way by the roof falling in or falling debris of any nature...so what caused the tremors to start...? popcornWhy did the cavern get breached? And why are the tremors still continuing and spreading...?
Something is undermining the whole area....almost like a beast eating away at the earth. Maybe the bacteria mutated so much that the oil has become a living beast out to consume everything...

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popcorn
Good and the end product is more methane. The only way to stop it is to freeze it or well a nother option which consequently will make matters worse.

Moreover explains why the methane hydrane products are melting

Don't bother quoting Patassa they are a paid troll. Trolls will lie, lie and lie more. Often come in teams, stay alert.

To sum up keep watching so that they don't make matters worse.

Prayer maybe our only option.

There is a holy man in the Bayou who had seen this coming. Some (real Cajun) may know who i mean. When DWH happened his face look ashen. He justs tries to get people to pray. I will say this he had seen a vision of dead bodies in the Bayou everywhere. Pray, research and keep watching so they don't make it worse.
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I was following the links from another thread about a confirmed report of crimean congo, ended up turning into a several hour research project

There are 4 levels of biological safety labs, with bio-level 4 (bsl-4) being the most dangerous. No cure. No vaccines. Not always fatal perhaps, but bsl-4 does have a very high mortality rate. You can only treat the symptoms of the patient...theres no cure for the disease itself.

[link to hpac.com]

All hemorrhagic diseases are level 4.

There are only 30 bsl-4 labs in the world, and 15 of those are found in the united states.

One in massachusetts, 5 in maryland, 1 in kansas, 2 in georgia, 1 in ohio, 1 in montana, 1 in virgina, and 3 in texas.

I checked into where these facilities were specifically located. Which organization(s) they were run by. Who they reported to, etc..

Most were exactly what you'd expect to find. Medical research facilities & development teams…university & teaching laboratories. …& a few government biological/chemical studies. Nothing at all unusual. Until I got to the 3 texas labs, and I seen that one of the labs listed was the only independently owned/operated bsl-4 laboratory in the world.

Private doesn’t mean ‘with disregard’, but there is a different atmosphere. Different priorities. Plus, you're not held to the same level of accountability. You’ve got more wiggle-room. More flexibility. Less moral, public opinion, and political obstacles.

Another huge difference is that privately run labs tend to focus their time, attention, and their funding on what is ~~profitable~~

But the level 4 license made no sense to me, because they are strictly regulated….and they’re regulated for a reason. You don’t want just any Tom, Dick, or Harry messing around with that stuff because there is a good possibility of a major pandemic or ELE if handled improperly.

I'm prohibited by city ordinance from owning a pot-bellied pig because someone listed them as being a 'dangerous & unpredictable' animal……yet someone in texas can juggle ebola, anthrax and hantavirus? Really?

Yeah….something didn't sound right to me either....so I dug some more.

Of the 3 bsl-4 labs listed in Texas, two sounded legit. Just one stood out. It’s the 'Texas Biomedical Research Institute’ located in San Antonia. There’s also a separate research lab on the same property…..and it’s called ‘Southwest Primate Research Institute. They do extensive (and not very nice) testing on primates and are in a near constant battle with PETA over cruel & inhumane treatment of the animals.

This place is huge…200+ acres. The number of people working there varied depending on which site I visited. But (roughly) 4-5,000 would be a good estimate.

In May 2012, they started a huge expansion project that will add another 15 research buildings. When completed, it will add an additional 70,000 square feet of research, development & office space. With over 2 million sq ft total.

So I dug some more.....

This independently run bsl-4 specializes in genetics & virology/immunology research with additional interests being listed for bio-terrorism. It lists itself as having over 4000 'non-human primates' in house for testing & research purposes. I've never heard lab animals described that way (non-human) but maybe it’s an industry term.

I’m not exactly sure how it ties in to this specifically, but Craig Venter’s name kept coming up on these web sites. Other names too that was consistant with both research centers. Maybe not that unusual considering how specialized this field is. There may/may not be a connection there, but it is a bit curious and something I'll study when I have more time.

You can tell a lot about cooperate america by who the major contributors are. Who are the lobbyists. Who’s giving the largest donations. Because nearly 100% of the time, those that invest the most into a business, will expect the most out of it. It's not personal...it's business. Simple math.

Much of the funding comes from corporate grants which includes Pfizer and some other big pharmaceutical companies. Plus there are pages and pages of private donations that will take me a couple of days to go through.
See who's connected with each reearch facility then figure out who has ties to both...because from what I've read the past few hours, there might be a little meat here somewhere.

So let’s review:

**There’s only 1 privately owned research and development laboratory in the world that is classified as being a bio safety lab #4. This lab, although not held accountable to the public as other bsl-4 labs, has a license to handle the most dangerous viral & bacterial samples on this planet. This lab receives unknown amts of govt subsidies yet is not held accountable for how these funds are spent because they are a privately run/operated laboratory. This lab is also heavily funded by the pharmaceutical companies, especially Pfizer, and other big fortune 500 companies.

**There is a different research and development facility located within the same property management group which is heavily funded in specialized pharmaceutical and bio/chemical testing on primates. This lab has ties to the airline industry and the military and was just awarded a 5+ million dollar contract from DARPA .

**and...just in case you're not familiar with the geography of the area…..San Antonio is west of Baton Rouge. Almost in a direct straight line.

All my links for verification are posted. If you have a hard time finding anything specific, lemme know and I’ll try and point you to the right site/page number. When I have time, I'll pick this up again, and see where it leads me.

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San Antonio — August 22, 2012 — Southwest Research Institute has been awarded a $5.1 million contract by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to develop the Context Model Library as part of the Component, Context and Manufacturing Model Library-2 (C2M2L-2) for the DARPA Adaptive Vehicle Make program.

Darpa contract (swri is aka lab #2…the primate research one)
[link to www.swri.org]

Texas Biomedical Research Institute/Southwest National Primate Research
Biomedical Research Institute News
PO Box 760549 San Antonio TX 78245-0549

donations to the research centers:
[link to www.opensecrets.org]

listing of all bio-safety #4 labs:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

association for independent laboratory listings:
[link to www.airi.org]

texas bio-medical research lab (lab #1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more info on texas bio-medical info…explains relationship betw the two labs:
[link to www.tshaonline.org]

bio-level #4 restrictions/safety protocol—good information if you’re not aware of protocol for bio level 4:
[link to hpac.com]

(lab #2) southwest research institute (primate studies):
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more primate study information:
[link to txbiomed.org]
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Thanks annie, just wow. and Why. Why do people mess with these dangerous things at all.
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SAY HELLO TO SYNTHIA

In 2003, JCVI successfully synthesized a small virus that infects bacteria. By 2008, the JCVI team was able to synthesize a small bacterial genome. On May 6, 2010, JCVI revealed they had already created a self-replicating bacterial cell controlled by a chemically synthesized genome they named "synthetic Mycoplasma mycoides JCVI-syn1.0". (7) This completely synthetic cell with its computer designed genome has absolutely no natural DNA. (1) The etc group from Canada named it Synthia and it contains added watermark chains to identify the genome as artificial. It also has antibiotic resistance indicators. (7) One can only speculate why this artificial bacterium has an inherent programmed capability to resist antibiotics.

[link to rense.com]
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Thank you, I read that whole article, hadn't seen that before, it's extremely disturbing.
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Excellent research and analysis Ladyannnehf

Follow the money.

Someone paid for Dr. Venterstein's research.

NOW you understand why they were in such a hurry rushing the genome project before 2000?
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Someone posted this link on a previous page, sorry I can't go back to look for it (recent post) to give you credit! hf

Dead, Missing, Jailed BP WHISTLEBLOWERS

[link to bpwhistleblowers.blogspot.com]

Worth a look, thanks to the one who posted that.
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....

There is also a DRACO vaccine...developed at MIT...I think I would stay away from any and all vaccines...especially this one called DRACO....

[link to blogs.terrapinn.com]
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I think somewhere on the last couple of pages of the Bezerk thread, dr implies that Draco was engineered to control Synthia, which had been developed to be resistant to other viruses, etc.
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Synthia will make you sick ( via tap water)
But Draco will certainly kill you
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Surely just a coincidence but interesting to know that the FDA in recent days have relaxed laws on aflatoxin in three states.

I can not post the link due to copyright threats via reuters
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Why do you suppose?
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What about you PIN this instead of this shitty thread?

Thread: Upcoming Supreme Court case : Can you resell your own stuff???
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Finally - the names of the funding agencies/entities for the development of DRACO, per the MIT web site announcing DRACO.

[link to www.ll.mit.edu]

This work is funded by a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the New England Regional Center of Excellence for Biodefense and Emerging Infectious Diseases, with previous funding from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and Director of Defense Research & Engineering (now the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering).

DRACO is specific to work on viral infections. No clue whether it could be used on synthia. The announcement on that site is from 2011.
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DRACO is on the newly released winter storm name list.

And in mythology, DRACO is referred to as the "demon son" of Gaia, which is Mother Earth.

???
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Lil Kwindink for ya'll. When I read it my mouth fell open and knew I had read the word DRACO here. Just throwing it out there. [link to www.facebook.com]
Two Events incoming:
Earth-directed CME and Meteor Shower

EARTH-DIRECTED CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading for Earth. Glancing blow to our planet's magnetic field on Oct. 8. NOAA forecasters estimate a 20% to 35% chance of strong polar geomagnetic storms on Oct. 8-9.

DRACONID METEOR SHOWER: Draco the Dragon will be spitting out shooting stars, also known as meteors. The Draconid shower is predicted to produce the greatest number of meteors on the night of October 7, 2012. Watch for them first thing at nightfall. Fortunately, the waning gibbous moon will provide moon-free evenings for meteor watching tonight and tomorrow night. Oftentimes, this hard-to-predict shower doesn’t offer much more than a handful of languid meteors per hour. But watch out when the Dragon awakes!

If been shared sorry..
Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride
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There is hope. Don't despair. That is often what the opposition wants.

To add, a Chapel will be built in the Bayou that will cure
everyone who enters that Chapel. Again the real Cajuns know of what i speak. This was prophesied long ago it will be a miraculous thing. God is good even when man screws up and He is left to clean up. He sent these prophets to warn the people and will even cure many. Don't despair.
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Try to underSTAND. The cavern is very SLIPPERY. The salt dome is building and will soon ERUPT. Be very careful and PREPARE to make sound decisions. Deer in the WOODS are very wary. Do not underestimate this. It will SOON become very pertinent. Heed my WORDS.
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Good finds LadyAnnie!
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thanks! hf
"the truth will stand up, when nothing else will"
- annie's mom

"When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for."
- Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
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Snoopy Dawg back again. I have been given permission to repost the synopsis with some minor editing (for things we've verified) and adding the latest threat to the list.

REPOST WITH EDITING AND ADDITIONS

The sinkhole is getting bigger, which we know. Original OP and the various Dawgs have confirmed this BEFORE offical confirmation came. This WILL affect the Butane dome at some point.

There is a vortex in the sinkhole (which has been suspiciously downplayed of late) that can only be caused by a constant flow of water into - and OUT OF - the sinkhole. Where is that water coming from, and where is it going?

The BP Macondo incident is directly related. That pressure simply doesn't go away. As the pressures internally were disturbed and depressured at a high rate, the substructures of the ground were also disturbed. As the high-pressure gas (from decaying methane hydrates) seeks a path of least resistance, water from the seabed is forced into these 'gas channels' where it can find the least resistance.

How does water get into 'high pressure gas pockets'? Not all of the gas reservoir is a constant pressure and size. A smaller cavern, off the main cavern, with a size-restricted flow into/out of that cavern can actually be at a LOWER PRESSURE than the main cavity. Think of this in the same way you would use a pressure regulator on a BBQ gas grille. Restrict the flow on the high side, and control at lower pressure on the low side.

In this way, water pressure from the compromised sea floor gets into these gas pockets where there is lower pressure for the water to enter the gas channels. ALL of these gas structures, to one extent or another, are connected.

So the sinkhole/vortex was created by saltwater (conveniently disguised as BRINE) entering a pocket of gas from a source far, far away. And it takes time. It's been two years since the Deep Water Horizon Incident. By the way, we cannot confirm this - although evidence is mounting to suggest this - it is highly probable that the DWH drill site was chosen for the INTENDED PURPOSE of disturbing a fault line. A MAJOR one.

So we know where the water is coming from. What we DON'T know is where the salt water is going, although the damaged water aquifers suggests that the water and gas pressure is moving northward/northeast, towards the Mississipi river, which makes sense since that entire river system is basically an ancient fault zone. Meaning there are compromised soil areas all through that area. UPDATE: compromised aquifers and rising methane levels in the area's water table suggest that both water AND gas (moving together) are in fact moving not only north/northeast, but to the west/northwest as well. Think DALLAS QUAKES.

If the Butane dome is ruptured, it very well could be a catastrophic explosive event, certainly for the local area within a radius of 35 miles or so. The previous posts saying that 'he could never go home' is true. You pretty much better write off that area ever being habitable again.

The WORSE part of this is that if there is an abrubt explosive event, this will do two things: create enormous back-pressure throughout the rift to (1) the still-damaged BP Macondo seafloor, and (2) the Mississippi river "New Madrid" fault system.

You're seeing the big picture now.

It's obvious that FEMA has been preparing for SOMETHING. UPDATE: East Texas gave a list of links to news/posts that helped but these peices together. Look that up.

So this is what's happened by educated conjecture, and what the fears are of what's coming. But there are other concerns. THERE IS SOME TRUTH to part of the "Bezerk" thread regarding biomatter used to control the oil. This is a major concern because apparently traces of biomatter have been detected at the sinkhole site, which means that no one is sure if this was expected or not. Add to this the belief that there are, in fact, both nuclear waste AND possible deadly munitions dumps in not only this dome, but others in that area. And if the Butane dome ruptures, expect ALL of the domes in that area to rupture.

PRIMARY UPDATE TO THE SYNOPSIS: These threats above are still very active and getting worse. Nothing above has changed since East Texas posted it, except that the news and the facts and the investigation you've all done has VERIFIED the points he was making. However there is a very important peice of the puzzle to add to it, and that is the cover story on the meningitis issue.

It's been proven that at least some people have gotten sick without direct 'needle' exposure. Add to this the biotech and bioresearch linking the lab in San Antonio ("Look west of Baton Rouge" - good work by the way!!) to several strains of 'bug' that may be at play here, with ties to the products used in the GOM two years ago - tie all of this into the junk used at the Macondo well two years ago - some say Synthia, some say Corexit, we're not bio scientists here but we are sure of one thing: SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST METHANE IS PUKING OUT OF THE GROUND, and this has complicated not only the main issue (or at least what we THOUGHT was the main issue) but any and all recovery or prevention efforts.

Some of the Dawgs we've stated earlier that we can't contact or don't know where they are, we have reason to believe they may be sick.

Let the reader understand.
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So do you think this will set of a chain reaction and India and other countries will be affected or this will be localised and US is doomed?
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Wow! This is deep shit!
Prayer to all the DAWGS and their families. This is unbelievable!
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So do you think this will set of a chain reaction and India and other countries will be affected or this will be localised and US is doomed?
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It's mostly localized in the US.
But don't think DOOM won't reach you over the next few months, it will most probably reach everyone.
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The fact that the top two thirds are in tact also puts paid to the tremors being caused in any way by the roof falling in or falling debris of any nature...so what caused the tremors to start...? popcornWhy did the cavern get breached? And why are the tremors still continuing and spreading...?
Something is undermining the whole area....almost like a beast eating away at the earth. Maybe the bacteria mutated so much that the oil has become a living beast out to consume everything...

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popcorn
Good and the end product is more methane. The only way to stop it is to freeze it or well a nother option which consequently will make matters worse.

Moreover explains why the methane hydrane products are melting

Don't bother quoting Patassa they are a paid troll. Trolls will lie, lie and lie more. Often come in teams, stay alert.

To sum up keep watching so that they don't make matters worse.

Prayer maybe our only option.

There is a holy man in the Bayou who had seen this coming. Some (real Cajun) may know who i mean. When DWH happened his face look ashen. He justs tries to get people to pray. I will say this he had seen a vision of dead bodies in the Bayou everywhere. Pray, research and keep watching so they don't make it worse.
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LOL...seriously? A PAID troll? Wonder where they are sending my money? Wonder how much it is?

3145...I think it's time you back up your accusations, with just one post I've made, or either STFU. Oh, that's right. It's my Dolphin Avatar that gives me away...LOL.
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there is a huge reservoir of natural gas (methane)
underneath southern louisiana, and it is this
gas that is leaking up all over the place and
threatening to make all of southern louisiana (including New Orleans), uninhabitable.
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If TPTB think the New Madrid and LA is going to blow, then why aren't they shutting down the nuclear power plants?


THIS^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS
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siren2 Damn! Look at those 11 sample levels!
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1) risk of illness(short term-long term)due to exposure to a chemical at levels that coud cause illness.
2) risk of fire/explosion.
3) risk of injury.

damned
 Quoting: Dangerwalt


Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.
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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
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If TPTB think the New Madrid and LA is going to blow, then why aren't they shutting down the nuclear power plants?


THIS^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS


the New Madrid isn't expected to blow. and, it is
only all of southern louisiana that will will be
rendered uninhabitable, and merely die a whimpering death.

more slow DOOM. nothing spectacular.
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I believe that the phosgene gas is a huge concern there. We all know that Mr. Wheeler supposedly had information on left overs from Iraq being stored in Arkansas. While I was on vacation in FL. Last week I did some investigating on Phosgene and found that it is also used in the oil industry and is potentially stored in salt domes. It also reacts badly with chlorinated hydrocarbons. I also found links between potentially stored left overs from Iraq being sent to LA. Phosgene has a list of horrible effects on the human body as stated previously on this thread.
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East Texas again. Check my AC number and previous posts. That should say enough. Also.....get ready for a wall of text. We are going to have a "textual relationship", if you will.

For the record, I don't think JASTO is a shill, but I don't think he has inside info either, I was referring to the previous post calling themselves "East Texas". That was not "me". Again, check the AC numbers. But the other "East Texas" said something about Jaws being right about the land sinking, and THAT is, in fact, true. We'll cover that below.

Rather than give a synopsis of 'Day One' up to now, that doesn't really help since we're going over old data. What we're going to talk about is basically where we are NOW, what the real issues are, and where we're going.

So here goes.

The sinkhole is getting bigger, which we know. Original OP and the various Dawgs have confirmed this BEFORE offical confirmation came. We can all agree on this point.

Not sure about how this affects the Butane-filled salt dome but it's obvious the sinkhole is getting bigger and eventually WILL. There are other issues with what may or may not be in that hole, we'll come back to that later.

The problem right now is not that the sinkhole is getting bigger, and oddly enough, NOT that it will probably compromise the Butane dome. There is a vortex (albeit slow at this point) that can only be caused by a constant flow of water into - and OUT OF - the sinkhole.

Here is the REAL PROBLEM. Where is that water coming from, and where is it going?

The BP Macondo incident is directly related. That pressure simply doesn't go away. As the pressures internally were disturbed and high rates, the substructures of the ground were also disturbed. As the high-pressure gas (from decaying methane hydrates) seeks a path of least resistance, water from the seabed is forced into these 'gas channels' where it can find the least resistance.

How does water get into 'high pressure gas pockets'? Not all of the gas reservoir is a constant pressure and size. A smaller cavern, off the main cavern, with a size-restricted flow into/out of that cavern can actually be at a LOWER PRESSURE than the main cavity. Think of this in the same way you would use a pressure regulator on a BBQ gas grille. Restrict the flow on the high side, and control at lower pressure on the low side.

In this way, water pressure from the compromised sea floor gets into these gas pockets where there is lower pressure for the water to enter the gas channels.

ALL of these gas structures, to one extent or another, are connected.

So to simplify (as I have understood it), the sinkhole/vortex was created by saltwater (conveniently disguised as BRINE) entering a pocket of gas from a source far, far away. And it takes time, like I don't know, two years or so since the BP incident?

So we know where the water is coming from. What we DON'T know is where the salt water is going, although the damaged water aquifers suggests that the water and gas pressure is moving northward/northeast, towards the Mississipi river, which makes sense since that entire river system is basically an ancient fault zone. Meaning there are compromised soil areas all through that area.

If the Butane dome is ruptured, it very well could be a catastrophic explosive event, certainly for the local area within a radius of 35 miles or so. The previous posts saying that 'he could never go home' is true. You pretty much better write off that area ever being habitable again.

The WORSE part of this is that if there is an abrubt explosive event, this will do two things: create enormous back-pressure throughout the rift to (1) the still-damaged BP Macondo seafloor, and (2) the Mississippi river "New Madrid" fault system.

You're seeing the big picture now.

This is where the "other East Texas" got some things right in regards to FEMA preps, etc. but I don't know what that poster was talking about in regards to Chinese troops and all that crap. But it's obvious that FEMA has been preparing for SOMETHING.

So this is what's happened by educated conjecture, and what the fears are of what's coming. But there are other concerns. Apparently there is some truth to part of the "Bezerk" thread regarding biomatter used to control the oil. This is a major concern because apparently traces of biomatter have been detected at the sinkhole site, which means that no one is sure if this was expected or not. Add to this the belief that there are, in fact, both nuclear waste AND possible deadly munitions dumps in not only this dome, but others in that area. And if the Butane dome ruptures, expect ALL of the domes in that area to rupture.

In other words, this is literally uncharted doom territory on a global scale.

It's hard not to hear when the Dawgs are barking.

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Could someone please tell me on which page the synopsis appeared? thanks in advance.
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thinking pg 53 but could be wrong ...I haven't checked lately!
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Sorry, I was way off. It was on pg 84! Reposted it above for you!
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Thank you very much. He/She said to keep digging but this post seems pretty straight forward to me, not sure what more there is to dig for.
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I believe digging could (and should) strongly indicate this... Thread: "MACONDO WELL" on top of an ASPHALT VOLCANO? Very few people are aware of this.

There is some very good information posted in that thread as well as links (note: a few of the links have been removed/scrubbed)

Once the above occurred they couldn't drill enough well heads fast enough to relieve the rising pressure, then add in the deadly toxins stored all over in the caverns = 'let the reader understand'...

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I believe that the phosgene gas is a huge concern there. We all know that Mr. Wheeler supposedly had information on left overs from Iraq being stored in Arkansas. While I was on vacation in FL. Last week I did some investigating on Phosgene and found that it is also used in the oil industry and is potentially stored in salt domes. It also reacts badly with chlorinated hydrocarbons. I also found links between potentially stored left overs from Iraq being sent to LA. Phosgene has a list of horrible effects on the human body as stated previously on this thread.
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right. the phosgene... check!

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1) risk of illness(short term-long term)due to exposure to a chemical at levels that coud cause illness.
2) risk of fire/explosion.
3) risk of injury.

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Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.
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Two things jumped out at me on this one. Only the methane is mentioned at it says detected in the industrial water wells. I thought they took core soil samples??? Where are those reports??? This report looks like to me it was from wells???
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From the banging I am hearing right now, I'm guessing this second vent well is fairly close. And from the direction it's coming from I would expect seismic monitors number LA01, LA02 and LA09 to be the most active. LA01 is still down. There is a big open field directly across the highway from the sinkhole and I am guessing that's where they are about to drill. That's where LA01 is.
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Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.
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Two things jumped out at me on this one. Only the methane is mentioned at it says detected in the industrial water wells. I thought they took core soil samples??? Where are those reports??? This report looks like to me it was from wells???
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That's why I am confused too. DHH told us way back to heed the evacuation, stay out of restricted areas and if we feel sick to see our physician. Exact same words. It seems the letter has old information from sep 13th, just repeated.
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Reposted From The "Let The Reader Understand" Thread...

I'll just say this, I'm very tied in with the oil industry here in Texas, and this is what I know...

BP's Macondo well was not one well, it was two wells, Well A and Well B (this was on their drilling permit and the info on this is still available on youtube). The blowout was in Well B whose coordinates were not quite a mile from Well A.

After realizing that the structural integrity of Well B was hoplessly comprimised and that, because of the depth of the well and the wells depth under water, traditional capping would never work, BP made the decission, along with the U.S. government, to nuke the hole.

They used the Tropical Storm that came through the gulf as cover, moved everyone out of the way, and nuked the hole. They had already knocked the cap off of Well A to release pressure from the formation, and they had already placed a valve on the casing, but once Well B was nuked, and at least partially sealed, they proceeded to re-cap Well A permenantly (Anyone ever notice that the supposedly blown out well suddenly re-gained structural intergrity, and suddenly after months of being unable to even staunch the flow, they were able to just put a valve on the casing, that shouldn't have even been there since the Deepwater Horizon crew had reported a full blowout, and they were able to make easy work out of it before injecting cement and permenantly plugging the hole). But it wasn't the same hole that blew out, it was Well A...

So where does that leave us?!?!? Well, let's see, our own government nuked a blown out oil well at the end of a fault line, above a monsterous methane pocket, and in the middle of a chain of salt domes that goes from Alabama to Texas, without any clear idea of what it would do...

Well we're sure finding out now, aren't we...

Here are the video's proving BP Drilled 2 Wells, and that what we were viewing moved from Well B to Well A...









Here's video of the area when they nuked Well B...



Ladies and gentlemen, British Petroleum and our own government have set off a chain reaction that they cannot stop, how bad it will get is anyone's guess, but I would agree with the Dawgs and East Texas, if you haven't gotten out of South Eastern Louisianna by now, it may be too late...

abombabombabombabombabomb

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Reposted From The "Let The Reader Understand" Thread...

I'll just say this, I'm very tied in with the oil industry here in Texas, and this is what I know...

BP's Macondo well was not one well, it was two wells, Well A and Well B (this was on their drilling permit and the info on this is still available on youtube). The blowout was in Well B whose coordinates were not quite a mile from Well A.

After realizing that the structural integrity of the well was hoplessly comprimised and that, because of the depth of the well and the wells depth under water, traditional capping would never work, BP made the decission, along with the U.S. government, to nuke the hole.

They used the Tropical Storm that came through the gulf as cover, moved everyone out of the way, and nuked the hole. They had already knocked the cap off of Well A to release pressure from the formation, and they had already placed a valve on the casing, but once Well B was nuked, they proceeded to re-cap the well permenantly (Anyone ever notice that the well suddenly re-gained structural intergrity, and suddenly after months of being unable to even staunch the flow, they were suddenly able to just put a valve on the casing (that shouldn't have even been there since the Deepwater Horizon crew had reported a full blowout), and they were suddenly able to make it work easily, before injecting cement and permenantly plugging the hole. But it wasn't the same hole that blew out, it was Well A...

So where does that leave us?!?!? Well, let's see, our own government nuked a blown out oil well at the end of a fault line, without any clear idea of what it would do to that fault line...

Well we're sure finding out now, aren't we...

Here are the video's proving BP Drilled 2 Wells, and that what we were viewing moved from Well B to Well A...









Here's video of the area when they nuked Well B...



Ladies and gentlemen, British Petroleum and our own government have set off a chain reaction that they cannot stop, how bad it will get is anyone's guess, but I would agree with Dawg and East Texas, if you haven't gotten out of South Eastern Louisianna by now, it may be too late...

abombabombabombabombabomb
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yes. the policy of the U.S. Government has
always been: "when all else fails, nuke it"


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