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East Texas again. Check my AC number and previous posts. That should say enough. Also.....get ready for a wall of text. We are going to have a "textual relationship", if you will.

For the record, I don't think JASTO is a shill, but I don't think he has inside info either, I was referring to the previous post calling themselves "East Texas". That was not "me". Again, check the AC numbers. But the other "East Texas" said something about Jaws being right about the land sinking, and THAT is, in fact, true. We'll cover that below.

Rather than give a synopsis of 'Day One' up to now, that doesn't really help since we're going over old data. What we're going to talk about is basically where we are NOW, what the real issues are, and where we're going.

So here goes.

The sinkhole is getting bigger, which we know. Original OP and the various Dawgs have confirmed this BEFORE offical confirmation came. We can all agree on this point.

Not sure about how this affects the Butane-filled salt dome but it's obvious the sinkhole is getting bigger and eventually WILL. There are other issues with what may or may not be in that hole, we'll come back to that later.

The problem right now is not that the sinkhole is getting bigger, and oddly enough, NOT that it will probably compromise the Butane dome. There is a vortex (albeit slow at this point) that can only be caused by a constant flow of water into - and OUT OF - the sinkhole.

Here is the REAL PROBLEM. Where is that water coming from, and where is it going?

The BP Macondo incident is directly related. That pressure simply doesn't go away. As the pressures internally were disturbed and high rates, the substructures of the ground were also disturbed. As the high-pressure gas (from decaying methane hydrates) seeks a path of least resistance, water from the seabed is forced into these 'gas channels' where it can find the least resistance.

How does water get into 'high pressure gas pockets'? Not all of the gas reservoir is a constant pressure and size. A smaller cavern, off the main cavern, with a size-restricted flow into/out of that cavern can actually be at a LOWER PRESSURE than the main cavity. Think of this in the same way you would use a pressure regulator on a BBQ gas grille. Restrict the flow on the high side, and control at lower pressure on the low side.

In this way, water pressure from the compromised sea floor gets into these gas pockets where there is lower pressure for the water to enter the gas channels.

ALL of these gas structures, to one extent or another, are connected.

So to simplify (as I have understood it), the sinkhole/vortex was created by saltwater (conveniently disguised as BRINE) entering a pocket of gas from a source far, far away. And it takes time, like I don't know, two years or so since the BP incident?

So we know where the water is coming from. What we DON'T know is where the salt water is going, although the damaged water aquifers suggests that the water and gas pressure is moving northward/northeast, towards the Mississipi river, which makes sense since that entire river system is basically an ancient fault zone. Meaning there are compromised soil areas all through that area.

If the Butane dome is ruptured, it very well could be a catastrophic explosive event, certainly for the local area within a radius of 35 miles or so. The previous posts saying that 'he could never go home' is true. You pretty much better write off that area ever being habitable again.

The WORSE part of this is that if there is an abrubt explosive event, this will do two things: create enormous back-pressure throughout the rift to (1) the still-damaged BP Macondo seafloor, and (2) the Mississippi river "New Madrid" fault system.

You're seeing the big picture now.

This is where the "other East Texas" got some things right in regards to FEMA preps, etc. but I don't know what that poster was talking about in regards to Chinese troops and all that crap. But it's obvious that FEMA has been preparing for SOMETHING.

So this is what's happened by educated conjecture, and what the fears are of what's coming. But there are other concerns. Apparently there is some truth to part of the "Bezerk" thread regarding biomatter used to control the oil. This is a major concern because apparently traces of biomatter have been detected at the sinkhole site, which means that no one is sure if this was expected or not. Add to this the belief that there are, in fact, both nuclear waste AND possible deadly munitions dumps in not only this dome, but others in that area. And if the Butane dome ruptures, expect ALL of the domes in that area to rupture.

In other words, this is literally uncharted doom territory on a global scale.

It's hard not to hear when the Dawgs are barking.

Stay safe.
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Could someone please tell me on which page the synopsis appeared? thanks in advance.
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thinking pg 53 but could be wrong ...I haven't checked lately!
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Sorry, I was way off. It was on pg 84! Reposted it above for you!
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Thank you very much. He/She said to keep digging but this post seems pretty straight forward to me, not sure what more there is to dig for.
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I believe digging could (and should) strongly indicate this... Thread: "MACONDO WELL" on top of an ASPHALT VOLCANO? Very few people are aware of this.

There is some very good information posted in that thread as well as links (note: a few of the links have been removed/scrubbed)

Once the above occurred they couldn't drill enough well heads fast enough to relieve the rising pressure, then add in the deadly toxins stored all over in the caverns = 'let the reader understand'...

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I believe that the phosgene gas is a huge concern there. We all know that Mr. Wheeler supposedly had information on left overs from Iraq being stored in Arkansas. While I was on vacation in FL. Last week I did some investigating on Phosgene and found that it is also used in the oil industry and is potentially stored in salt domes. It also reacts badly with chlorinated hydrocarbons. I also found links between potentially stored left overs from Iraq being sent to LA. Phosgene has a list of horrible effects on the human body as stated previously on this thread.
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right. the phosgene... check!

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1) risk of illness(short term-long term)due to exposure to a chemical at levels that coud cause illness.
2) risk of fire/explosion.
3) risk of injury.

damned
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Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.
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Two things jumped out at me on this one. Only the methane is mentioned at it says detected in the industrial water wells. I thought they took core soil samples??? Where are those reports??? This report looks like to me it was from wells???
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From the banging I am hearing right now, I'm guessing this second vent well is fairly close. And from the direction it's coming from I would expect seismic monitors number LA01, LA02 and LA09 to be the most active. LA01 is still down. There is a big open field directly across the highway from the sinkhole and I am guessing that's where they are about to drill. That's where LA01 is.
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Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.
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 Quoting: Patassa


Two things jumped out at me on this one. Only the methane is mentioned at it says detected in the industrial water wells. I thought they took core soil samples??? Where are those reports??? This report looks like to me it was from wells???
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That's why I am confused too. DHH told us way back to heed the evacuation, stay out of restricted areas and if we feel sick to see our physician. Exact same words. It seems the letter has old information from sep 13th, just repeated.
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Reposted From The "Let The Reader Understand" Thread...

I'll just say this, I'm very tied in with the oil industry here in Texas, and this is what I know...

BP's Macondo well was not one well, it was two wells, Well A and Well B (this was on their drilling permit and the info on this is still available on youtube). The blowout was in Well B whose coordinates were not quite a mile from Well A.

After realizing that the structural integrity of Well B was hoplessly comprimised and that, because of the depth of the well and the wells depth under water, traditional capping would never work, BP made the decission, along with the U.S. government, to nuke the hole.

They used the Tropical Storm that came through the gulf as cover, moved everyone out of the way, and nuked the hole. They had already knocked the cap off of Well A to release pressure from the formation, and they had already placed a valve on the casing, but once Well B was nuked, and at least partially sealed, they proceeded to re-cap Well A permenantly (Anyone ever notice that the supposedly blown out well suddenly re-gained structural intergrity, and suddenly after months of being unable to even staunch the flow, they were able to just put a valve on the casing, that shouldn't have even been there since the Deepwater Horizon crew had reported a full blowout, and they were able to make easy work out of it before injecting cement and permenantly plugging the hole). But it wasn't the same hole that blew out, it was Well A...

So where does that leave us?!?!? Well, let's see, our own government nuked a blown out oil well at the end of a fault line, above a monsterous methane pocket, and in the middle of a chain of salt domes that goes from Alabama to Texas, without any clear idea of what it would do...

Well we're sure finding out now, aren't we...

Here are the video's proving BP Drilled 2 Wells, and that what we were viewing moved from Well B to Well A...









Here's video of the area when they nuked Well B...



Ladies and gentlemen, British Petroleum and our own government have set off a chain reaction that they cannot stop, how bad it will get is anyone's guess, but I would agree with the Dawgs and East Texas, if you haven't gotten out of South Eastern Louisianna by now, it may be too late...

abombabombabombabombabomb

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Reposted From The "Let The Reader Understand" Thread...

I'll just say this, I'm very tied in with the oil industry here in Texas, and this is what I know...

BP's Macondo well was not one well, it was two wells, Well A and Well B (this was on their drilling permit and the info on this is still available on youtube). The blowout was in Well B whose coordinates were not quite a mile from Well A.

After realizing that the structural integrity of the well was hoplessly comprimised and that, because of the depth of the well and the wells depth under water, traditional capping would never work, BP made the decission, along with the U.S. government, to nuke the hole.

They used the Tropical Storm that came through the gulf as cover, moved everyone out of the way, and nuked the hole. They had already knocked the cap off of Well A to release pressure from the formation, and they had already placed a valve on the casing, but once Well B was nuked, they proceeded to re-cap the well permenantly (Anyone ever notice that the well suddenly re-gained structural intergrity, and suddenly after months of being unable to even staunch the flow, they were suddenly able to just put a valve on the casing (that shouldn't have even been there since the Deepwater Horizon crew had reported a full blowout), and they were suddenly able to make it work easily, before injecting cement and permenantly plugging the hole. But it wasn't the same hole that blew out, it was Well A...

So where does that leave us?!?!? Well, let's see, our own government nuked a blown out oil well at the end of a fault line, without any clear idea of what it would do to that fault line...

Well we're sure finding out now, aren't we...

Here are the video's proving BP Drilled 2 Wells, and that what we were viewing moved from Well B to Well A...









Here's video of the area when they nuked Well B...



Ladies and gentlemen, British Petroleum and our own government have set off a chain reaction that they cannot stop, how bad it will get is anyone's guess, but I would agree with Dawg and East Texas, if you haven't gotten out of South Eastern Louisianna by now, it may be too late...

abombabombabombabombabomb
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yes. the policy of the U.S. Government has
always been: "when all else fails, nuke it"
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Hey patassa, They dont care about you. They don't care about anyone but themselves. They want everyone dead. i betting all the local officials have all been paid off.
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Hey patassa, They dont care about you. They don't care about anyone but themselves. They want everyone dead. i betting all the local officials have all been paid off.
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it's just a few crawdads and cajuns. what the heck.
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I believe that the phosgene gas is a huge concern there. We all know that Mr. Wheeler supposedly had information on left overs from Iraq being stored in Arkansas. While I was on vacation in FL. Last week I did some investigating on Phosgene and found that it is also used in the oil industry and is potentially stored in salt domes. It also reacts badly with chlorinated hydrocarbons. I also found links between potentially stored left overs from Iraq being sent to LA. Phosgene has a list of horrible effects on the human body as stated previously on this thread.
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If there is phosgene stored in the domes there, we are in a world of hurt.

The worst-case distances to the endpoints for the toxic substances are:

11 miles for 1,000 pounds of phosgene.


[link to www.epa.gov]

More about phosgene gas.

Phosgene is the chemical compound with the formula COCl2. This colorless gas gained infamy as a chemical weapon during World War I. It is also a valued industrial reagent and building block in synthesis of pharmaceuticals and other organic compounds...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.


PLEASE quit quoting miles and miles of old posts, Patassa! If YOU need to reread something, then save it somewhere, there is no reason to keep re-quoting the same messages, over and over again. I have learned to just skim over your posts, because they really don't SAY anything....think JASTO!

If you have something to really contribute, then do it, WITHOUT quoting from 8 pages ago! Get it?
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Someone posted this link on a previous page, sorry I can't go back to look for it (recent post) to give you credit! hf

Dead, Missing, Jailed BP WHISTLEBLOWERS

[link to bpwhistleblowers.blogspot.com]

Worth a look, thanks to the one who posted that.
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That was me, your welcome!hf
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In case it hasn't already been posted...

[link to phys.org]
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In case it hasn't already been posted...

[link to phys.org]
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Time bomb: Military ordnance in Gulf poses threat to shipping, researchers says
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Excellent research and analysis Ladyannnehf

Follow the money.

Someone paid for Dr. Venterstein's research.

NOW you understand why they were in such a hurry rushing the genome project before 2000?
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yes....all the pieces are fitting together. The scope of what's been going on is massive. Almost incomprehensible.....I've seriously got chills right now.

there's a LOT of people involved with this
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I believe that the phosgene gas is a huge concern there. We all know that Mr. Wheeler supposedly had information on left overs from Iraq being stored in Arkansas. While I was on vacation in FL. Last week I did some investigating on Phosgene and found that it is also used in the oil industry and is potentially stored in salt domes. It also reacts badly with chlorinated hydrocarbons. I also found links between potentially stored left overs from Iraq being sent to LA. Phosgene has a list of horrible effects on the human body as stated previously on this thread.
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If there is phosgene stored in the domes there, we are in a world of hurt.

The worst-case distances to the endpoints for the toxic substances are:

11 miles for 1,000 pounds of phosgene.


[link to www.epa.gov]

More about phosgene gas.

Phosgene is the chemical compound with the formula COCl2. This colorless gas gained infamy as a chemical weapon during World War I. It is also a valued industrial reagent and building block in synthesis of pharmaceuticals and other organic compounds...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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A form of mustard gas I believe...
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I was following the links from another thread about a confirmed report of crimean congo, ended up turning into a several hour research project

There are 4 levels of biological safety labs, with bio-level 4 (bsl-4) being the most dangerous. No cure. No vaccines. Not always fatal perhaps, but bsl-4 does have a very high mortality rate. You can only treat the symptoms of the patient...theres no cure for the disease itself.

[link to hpac.com]

All hemorrhagic diseases are level 4.

There are only 30 bsl-4 labs in the world, and 15 of those are found in the united states.

One in massachusetts, 5 in maryland, 1 in kansas, 2 in georgia, 1 in ohio, 1 in montana, 1 in virgina, and 3 in texas.

I checked into where these facilities were specifically located. Which organization(s) they were run by. Who they reported to, etc..

Most were exactly what you'd expect to find. Medical research facilities & development teams…university & teaching laboratories. …& a few government biological/chemical studies. Nothing at all unusual. Until I got to the 3 texas labs, and I seen that one of the labs listed was the only independently owned/operated bsl-4 laboratory in the world.

Private doesn’t mean ‘with disregard’, but there is a different atmosphere. Different priorities. Plus, you're not held to the same level of accountability. You’ve got more wiggle-room. More flexibility. Less moral, public opinion, and political obstacles.

Another huge difference is that privately run labs tend to focus their time, attention, and their funding on what is ~~profitable~~

But the level 4 license made no sense to me, because they are strictly regulated….and they’re regulated for a reason. You don’t want just any Tom, Dick, or Harry messing around with that stuff because there is a good possibility of a major pandemic or ELE if handled improperly.

I'm prohibited by city ordinance from owning a pot-bellied pig because someone listed them as being a 'dangerous & unpredictable' animal……yet someone in texas can juggle ebola, anthrax and hantavirus? Really?

Yeah….something didn't sound right to me either....so I dug some more.

Of the 3 bsl-4 labs listed in Texas, two sounded legit. Just one stood out. It’s the 'Texas Biomedical Research Institute’ located in San Antonia. There’s also a separate research lab on the same property…..and it’s called ‘Southwest Primate Research Institute. They do extensive (and not very nice) testing on primates and are in a near constant battle with PETA over cruel & inhumane treatment of the animals.

This place is huge…200+ acres. The number of people working there varied depending on which site I visited. But (roughly) 4-5,000 would be a good estimate.

In May 2012, they started a huge expansion project that will add another 15 research buildings. When completed, it will add an additional 70,000 square feet of research, development & office space. With over 2 million sq ft total.

So I dug some more.....

This independently run bsl-4 specializes in genetics & virology/immunology research with additional interests being listed for bio-terrorism. It lists itself as having over 4000 'non-human primates' in house for testing & research purposes. I've never heard lab animals described that way (non-human) but maybe it’s an industry term.

I’m not exactly sure how it ties in to this specifically, but Craig Venter’s name kept coming up on these web sites. Other names too that was consistant with both research centers. Maybe not that unusual considering how specialized this field is. There may/may not be a connection there, but it is a bit curious and something I'll study when I have more time.

You can tell a lot about cooperate america by who the major contributors are. Who are the lobbyists. Who’s giving the largest donations. Because nearly 100% of the time, those that invest the most into a business, will expect the most out of it. It's not personal...it's business. Simple math.

Much of the funding comes from corporate grants which includes Pfizer and some other big pharmaceutical companies. Plus there are pages and pages of private donations that will take me a couple of days to go through.
See who's connected with each reearch facility then figure out who has ties to both...because from what I've read the past few hours, there might be a little meat here somewhere.

So let’s review:

**There’s only 1 privately owned research and development laboratory in the world that is classified as being a bio safety lab #4. This lab, although not held accountable to the public as other bsl-4 labs, has a license to handle the most dangerous viral & bacterial samples on this planet. This lab receives unknown amts of govt subsidies yet is not held accountable for how these funds are spent because they are a privately run/operated laboratory. This lab is also heavily funded by the pharmaceutical companies, especially Pfizer, and other big fortune 500 companies.

**There is a different research and development facility located within the same property management group which is heavily funded in specialized pharmaceutical and bio/chemical testing on primates. This lab has ties to the airline industry and the military and was just awarded a 5+ million dollar contract from DARPA .

**and...just in case you're not familiar with the geography of the area…..San Antonio is west of Baton Rouge. Almost in a direct straight line.

All my links for verification are posted. If you have a hard time finding anything specific, lemme know and I’ll try and point you to the right site/page number. When I have time, I'll pick this up again, and see where it leads me.

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San Antonio — August 22, 2012 — Southwest Research Institute has been awarded a $5.1 million contract by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to develop the Context Model Library as part of the Component, Context and Manufacturing Model Library-2 (C2M2L-2) for the DARPA Adaptive Vehicle Make program.

Darpa contract (swri is aka lab #2…the primate research one)
[link to www.swri.org]

Texas Biomedical Research Institute/Southwest National Primate Research
Biomedical Research Institute News
PO Box 760549 San Antonio TX 78245-0549

donations to the research centers:
[link to www.opensecrets.org]

listing of all bio-safety #4 labs:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

association for independent laboratory listings:
[link to www.airi.org]

texas bio-medical research lab (lab #1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more info on texas bio-medical info…explains relationship betw the two labs:
[link to www.tshaonline.org]

bio-level #4 restrictions/safety protocol—good information if you’re not aware of protocol for bio level 4:
[link to hpac.com]

(lab #2) southwest research institute (primate studies):
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more primate study information:
[link to txbiomed.org]
 Quoting: ladyannie2009


also west of baton rouge, bayou corne, and lafayette, louisiana is a lab in New Iberia, LA~~do a google search~~
primate testing lab, new iberia, la......

lots more to be released into the environment..........

[link to nirc.louisiana.edu]


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Jesus, no shit! What happened to this thread over nite. It is all just a pile of stupid quoted quotes, no answers, nothing. DERAILED again. Let me know when it gets back to normal and what page # that might be!
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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
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Patassa, been following the thread and the information you have been providing as a local. Am confused on your position as stated above and want to make sure I am clear about your first-hand perspective.

Why do you feel you “absolutely” have faith that local officials would inform the community about tainted drinking water when you say they have presented “nothing” about documented dangerous methane levels in well water? In other word, either the local officials’ intention is to release all available information to the community in the interest of safety - or it isn't.
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wow what a busy morning. nice work n lots of good info. thx ppl. in regards to the sythia n corexit: i wonder if that is what boosted/started the hydro-fracking. when u look at the zombi map from last night,it seems to extend along the fracking areas. in regards to the menengitis the 2nd worse state is va. harisonburg,va has been off the charts on radiaton for some time. also the zombi cases stop at the NY STATE border<no fracking zone YET>.
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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
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Patassa, been following the thread and the information you have been providing as a local. Am confused on your position as stated above and want to make sure I am clear about your first-hand perspective.

Why do you feel you “absolutely” have faith that local officials would inform the community about tainted drinking water when you say they have presented “nothing” about documented dangerous methane levels in well water? In other word, either the local officials’ intention is to release all available information to the community in the interest of safety - or it isn't.
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officials have released little to no information about
this situation since August because they are hoping that
everyone will just quietly leave, little by little, without
causing a stampede.
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Excellent research and analysis Ladyannnehf

Follow the money.

Someone paid for Dr. Venterstein's research.

NOW you understand why they were in such a hurry rushing the genome project before 2000?
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yes....all the pieces are fitting together. The scope of what's been going on is massive. Almost incomprehensible.....I've seriously got chills right now.

there's a LOT of people involved with this
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a video of midway done 2005 mentioned the research of alien pathogens with a main scientist being unable to stabilise the and unlock the alien mithocondria!

Until may 17th 2002 he has been able to increase the Incubation period drasticly, which allowed them to play with the mythocondria and hybertised it with Human DNA!

2002, well in 2003 Synthia was ready to be dispersed! but was not used before 2010. They were waiting for the right opportunity to spread it like the disease it is! Bp oil spill!

Interestingly enough, The virus mentioned in the game prototype is a very advanced intelligent black,red slime! They call it "Blacklight". In the Game Area-51,It's the same virus! just no name for it.

in the movie X-files:fight the future. It is the same Black slime pathogen, which exibits the same caterestics! Then again in the movie prometeus, you got the very same plague with same specifics!

The specifics are, Increased incubation time, Lower mortality rate, Slow start,Fast vector spreading of infection. Host has symptoms of fever fallowed by increased agressivity, Increased strenght, increased resistance to Acids. Seems particuliarly Weak to direct electricity inputs, aka tasers.( Tasers are Way more deadly on infected host,Rather then 9mm.)
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I've been wading thru the pages and have two questions:

1.) If its true corexit has been found at the sinkhole, then isn't that all the proof one would need to show this is related to Macondo? As the pressure sucks up sea water it brings the globules of this crap which is now everywhere on the gulf floor?

2.) how would nuking well b stop the flow? By causing structural collapse that would reseal the breach? It just seems counterintuitive to me but what do I know?
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Getting ready to sign out for the day but wanted to post a bit more of what I found first. If someone has the time to look further into this, great but if not I will try to pick it back up in the morning.

Found a link to New Orleans with the genome mapping here...
[link to www.aspergillusflavus.org]

The USDA/ARS/SRRC in New Orleans, Louisiana provided its Expressed Sequence Tag (EST) genomic database for A. flavus as a matching resource towards the complete genomic characterization of A. flavus..

What they cause/or are being mapped out for: [link to www.genome.gov]

Aspergillus flavus Source of aflatoxin in food stuffs and cause of human aspergillosis

Aspergillus nidulans Key model system for study of genetics and cell biology

Aspergillus terreus Major source of lovastatin
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[link to www.nlm.nih.gov]

Lovastatin is used together with diet, weight-loss, and exercise to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke and to decrease the chance that heart surgery will be needed in people who have heart disease or who are at risk of developing heart disease. Lovastatin is also used to decrease the amount of cholesterol (a fat-like substance) and other fatty substances in the blood. Lovastatin is in a class of medications called HMG CoA reductase inhibitors (statins). It works by slowing the production of cholesterol in the body to decrease the amount of cholesterol that may build up on the walls of the arteries and block blood flow to the heart, brain, and other parts of the body.
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And Lovastatin is well-known for muscle breakdown, which is why you have to notify your Dr. with first signs of muscle pain. This is called rhabdomyolysis, literally breaking down of the muscle. Simvastatin dissolves cholesterol, but dissolves muscles, too. I've seen patients die from taking Lovastatin, and personally wouldn't go anywhere near it.
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I've been wading thru the pages and have two questions:

1.) If its true corexit has been found at the sinkhole, then isn't that all the proof one would need to show this is related to Macondo? As the pressure sucks up sea water it brings the globules of this crap which is now everywhere on the gulf floor?

2.) how would nuking well b stop the flow? By causing structural collapse that would reseal the breach? It just seems counterintuitive to me but what do I know?
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nuking the well would be like cauterizing a gushing artery with a cigarette lighter -- it works great!

and, corexit in the sinkhole would only effect the price of hoe-handles in china.
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Good morning Everyone,

5 pages of reading to catch up on and I'm moving slow today, in the meantime, not sure if this was posted here yet...Matt Simmons interview on TruNews 6wks before his death, the last interview he did I believe. Pardon if it's been posted already, if you haven't listened it's a must hear. Forward to 8mins in for the beginning...

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think the 7.6 quake in Costa Rica on 9/5/12 could have shook things up a bit?

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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
 Quoting: Patassa


Patassa, been following the thread and the information you have been providing as a local. Am confused on your position as stated above and want to make sure I am clear about your first-hand perspective.

Why do you feel you “absolutely” have faith that local officials would inform the community about tainted drinking water when you say they have presented “nothing” about documented dangerous methane levels in well water? In other word, either the local officials’ intention is to release all available information to the community in the interest of safety - or it isn't.
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Read what I wrote again. I said I was trying to understand, that something about the letter didn't sit right with me, and yes, I absolutely have faith in local officials BUT, nothing has been said about the methane in the water, and THAT doesn't fit with how they have been previosuly communicating with us. I'm saying I'm confused because this isn't the norm, or type of communication/informing us of things that has kept that faith going.
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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
 Quoting: Patassa


Patassa, been following the thread and the information you have been providing as a local. Am confused on your position as stated above and want to make sure I am clear about your first-hand perspective.

Why do you feel you “absolutely” have faith that local officials would inform the community about tainted drinking water when you say they have presented “nothing” about documented dangerous methane levels in well water? In other word, either the local officials’ intention is to release all available information to the community in the interest of safety - or it isn't.
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Read what I wrote again. I said I was trying to understand, that something about the letter didn't sit right with me, and yes, I absolutely have faith in local officials BUT, nothing has been said about the methane in the water, and THAT doesn't fit with how they have been previosuly communicating with us. I'm saying I'm confused because this isn't the norm, or type of communication/informing us of things that has kept that faith going.
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They did tell you about the methane in the water, natural gas has been the term normally used. Natural gas = Methane.
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I'm trying to understand this as well. I absolutely have enough faith in our local officials that at the minimum, they would tell us not to drink the water (which I think most are not doing anyway), and provide bottled water for anyone that can't afford it.

I'm reading the letter over and over to try to understand what doesn't sit right with me. We have been told numerous times of risk of fire and explosion already, thus the mandatory evacuation.

But there has been nothing presented to us regarding these high levels of Methane, and that just doesn't fit with how they have been keeping us informed and updated.
 Quoting: Patassa


Patassa, been following the thread and the information you have been providing as a local. Am confused on your position as stated above and want to make sure I am clear about your first-hand perspective.

Why do you feel you “absolutely” have faith that local officials would inform the community about tainted drinking water when you say they have presented “nothing” about documented dangerous methane levels in well water? In other word, either the local officials’ intention is to release all available information to the community in the interest of safety - or it isn't.
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Read what I wrote again. I said I was trying to understand, that something about the letter didn't sit right with me, and yes, I absolutely have faith in local officials BUT, nothing has been said about the methane in the water, and THAT doesn't fit with how they have been previosuly communicating with us. I'm saying I'm confused because this isn't the norm, or type of communication/informing us of things that has kept that faith going.
 Quoting: Patassa


They did tell you about the methane in the water, natural gas has been the term normally used. Natural gas = Methane.
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Yes, I know they did. As I said above, I've heard those exact same words quite a while back. Heard the lady from DHH say it herself at one of the meetings. That's why I don't understand all the panic about it now, as if it's new news, rather than simply DHHs "official" report. That might be why there has not been an official update about it on the parish website, and it's not that officials are "not telling the people". Does that make sense?

I mean everyone knows it's methane, including the bubbling in the bayous. That has never been a secret.

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