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I don't know if this is for real or not, but check it out for yourselves.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Oh noz!
Oblabla linked to China....lol...sort of...

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More from the notes under the Matt Simmon video, these are note by the video maker and not myself:

Personal communications and emails from a man who worked with Simmons (which I have verified) stated he was going public with the possibility of future ground gas pressures that would expand at supersonic speed (think booms underground) through the oil rivers and aquifers (which are all connected) and cause fault instability and other geological problems. These problems would occur at great distances from the Mercondo well. Which may be exactly what we are seeing happen now with the Louisiana sinkhole and saltdome problems, as well as sinkhole reports from all over the Gulf coast states from Texas (and Mexico) up through the St Lawrence and Quebec/Ontario.
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I don't know if this is for real or not, but check it out for yourselves.

Thread: Fema Coffins Headed to Asheville National Guard!!!!!!
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can't possibly be real. FEMA's protocols call for only plastic bodybags and mass graves.
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entire population of Bayou Corne about to be asphyxiated by giant earth-fart!

(i thought they evacuated all these people?) wtf

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It is not a mandatory evacuation and too many are saying to "trust the authorities" who we all know cover up for the corporations, to save them from fines. Their money is more improtant then human life.
I would strongly encourage anyone left there to get the hell out.
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entire population of Bayou Corne about to be asphyxiated by giant earth-fart!

(i thought they evacuated all these people?) wtf

[link to www.examiner.com]
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It is not a mandatory evacuation and too many are saying to "trust the authorities" who we all know cover up for the corporations, to save them from fines. Their money is more improtant then human life.
I would strongly encourage anyone left there to get the hell out.
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well, one thing you can say about cajuns: they are really cute.
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Does anyone recall another substanced used during the BP incident? Another bio component, beside coexist and synthia?
I'll try to do some digging on that, as those are the only two that I recall being talked about at the time.
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If Venter's connection to Nalco pre-dates his presence at their award for Best Water Technology of 2012, could it be that Cynthia & Corexit were somehow made to work together?
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More from the notes under the Matt Simmon video, these are note by the video maker and not myself:

Personal communications and emails from a man who worked with Simmons (which I have verified) stated he was going public with the possibility of future ground gas pressures that would expand at supersonic speed (think booms underground) through the oil rivers and aquifers (which are all connected) and cause fault instability and other geological problems. These problems would occur at great distances from the Mercondo well. Which may be exactly what we are seeing happen now with the Louisiana sinkhole and saltdome problems, as well as sinkhole reports from all over the Gulf coast states from Texas (and Mexico) up through the St Lawrence and Quebec/Ontario.
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bumps
Just one any....

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Eighth death reported in meningitis outbreak

The Centers for Disease Control said Monday that the number of people infected with meningitis related to steroid injections has gone from 91 to 105. The death toll has risen from seven to eight.

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Does anyone recall another substanced used during the BP incident? Another bio component, beside coexist and synthia?
I'll try to do some digging on that, as those are the only two that I recall being talked about at the time.
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If Venter's connection to Nalco pre-dates his presence at their award for Best Water Technology of 2012, could it be that Cynthia & Corexit were somehow made to work together?
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Yes. That is what I have been reading about, corexit goes to work on the oil, making it easier for Synthia to eat. How that may mutate over time I have no idea.
I am not sure I want to know!
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Interview with Matt Simmons 6 weeks before his death.



Quoted from video:
Matthew Roy Simmons (April 7, 1943-- August 8, 2010) was a famous oil exec who became a BP whistleblower in the weeks before his strange death. Much of what he stated about the disaster was later proven true. He advocated for a complete evacuation of the Gulf of Mexico states, respirators to be supplied to all 20+ million people living on the Gulf (because of fumes from toxic crude, not corexit, which according to him is "worse than mustard gas"), and he believed the real source of the oil was coming from a giant blow-out 10 miles away from the well B site. He also stated (although not in this interview but one closer to his death) that relief wells would never be able to cope with the enormous pressures coming out of the seafloor.
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oops2 Thanks for the info!
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Slip sliding away, slip sliding awaaaay. You know the nearer your destination the more your slip sliding away.


Identification is getting easier. They are getting desperate. lol
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like Pazazza did, would you mind filming a local paper and something to validate you are from Thialand? i think you are in florida on the panhandle myself, like others, sitting in a room typing lies. prove me wrong, post a local paper with date. and i think i speak for many, if any of you want to meet in florida under camera, we can have a little discussion about our disagreements so everyone can see.
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Go fuck yourself. lol. sk

Your funny. ROFL get a brian, moran. sk
end communication. Sorry folks, Just had to say it.
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Of course, look what I started. Sorry seeker, but no one here seems to question your validity. Don't let them get to ya. Keep the solid info coming...
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Odd that on Fox news.com right now they have an article about unexploded ordnance lying off the U.S. coast in various places.

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chinese counterfeiters are making a lot counterfeit medical
drugs and selling them by the shipping container-full.
and there's no telling what they are putting in the stuff.
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Even the ones that are in legit contracts with Western companies cause problems. Was told by a Westerner working over there for a Chinese pharma supplies company that the Chinese companies start out promising to follow all the rules and regs necessary for Western companies re quality control and good manufacturing processes, but sooner or later it goes bad. They start using subbing cheaper ingredients to up their own profits. They don't care whether the cheaper products might be harmful or not.
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Ok, I am going to stick to the medical since that is what I seem to know best right now.

1. There have already been two types of fungi that have been identified among the sick/deceased. Aspergillus and Exserohilum-both of these fungi are found in back yards -- Exserohilum can cause leaf spot but it's also been known to cause skin and sinus infections. Aspergillus causes lung infections in cancer, HIV and other patients with suppressed immune systems (think steroids)

2. The drugs at fault were made in what are called compound pharmacies. These facilities are not FDA regulated. Reason being, they take manufactured drugs and mix them with other compounds (at the sole discretion of the pharmacist) to create a 'new' drug. This 'new' drug is not required to be tested by the FDA for safety and if you do a google search you will see that ill effects from compound drugs are widespread.

3. These compound pharmacies often do their 'mixing' at the back room kitchen sink. While they do have state regulations to follow, contamination is more frequent than what you see from FDA regulated facilities. (one of the fungi identified is common and found on bread)

4.Protocol for patients admitted depend on presenting symptoms. (broad spectrum antibiotics are often given to patients suspected of having an infection-think killing off good and bad bacteria allows fungus to flourish) Fungus takes longer to grow as a collected specimen than bacteria, hence why the delay in getting the proper medication to the patients, as well as why it is taking so long for patients to present with symptoms. ( even fungi growing in spinal fluid will take a while to flourish and release its toxins)

The perfect storm was created. No drug regulation, contamination, misunderstood diagnosis and possible incorrect treatment upon presented symptoms.

As far as dawgs saying that this ties in and does not seem to be meningitis, well they are going to have to cough up some clues to back that up. So far, it appears, just as we are being told by the CDC. Just my two cents.
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The question begs to be asked: WHERE DID The New England Compounding Center get its stock from!!!! It's not their fault that they were suppled with a contaminated base product. Compounding pharmacies are important because they will provide products that you can't get. Like bio-identical hormones.

If regulation is such a great thing then why is the major cause of death in the united states from doctors and pharmaceutical products?

The same ploy is being used to destroy people's access to herbal supplements and vitamins - eww! " They aren't regulated as much as pharmaceuticals" Yet 200,000 people die from properly prescribed pharmaceuticals and regulations haven't stopped those deaths. So quit pushing the party line. They don't use the "kitchen sink" so don't put that mental image in peoples mind.

Sorry for straying off topic. I get frothy at the mouth when the "No Drug Regulation" BS is flung around like so much dog feces. The point is where did NECC get its base stock from.
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You can ask the question about the stock all day long. Until there is proof of what exactly and how exactly something is contaminated, then saying they mix compounds at the kitchen sink is just that, a saying. Until further information is gathered you can't state with any amount of certainty that the base was contaminated any more than I can say it was someone's moldy lunch bread that caused a problem while said drug was being mixed. Fact is, these compound facilities are not regulated to the extent that guarantees sterile product!

Now, with that said, no one here is towing the party line. I happen to disagree with the amount of regulation we deal with on a daily basis, but when you are playing with medications that could potentially save or take a life, I prefer someone of knowledge to oversee the operation.

JMHO.
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A bit off track here, but a couple of pages back ladyannie posted about the private Level 4 lab. When I was looking thru their list of projects I noticed that there's one going on called Oman Family Study in their Genetics division.

Now, way, way, way back on the Bezerk thread we'd been throwing around ideas about oil leaks elsewhere in the world that pre-dated bee pee's that might have been "rehearsal", so to speak. I ended up not posting any of the info I'd found because it was so long and involved, but there had been a leak in Oman. As well as a couple of cases of unexplained illness.

Also IIRC one of the alleged insiders had said something about a particular port that turned out to be in Oman. I think it was something to the effect that some of the same "splash zones" talked about in Bezerk had happened there.

There might be no connection between any of these things, but it is somewhat curious.
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this guy has tons of footage

[link to www.youtube.com]
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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this guy has tons of footage

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no question about it; i see Synthia all over the place.
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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well remembered.
Just one any....

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Synthia? well, i don't think we have to look any further than the Illuminati on this one. it's a no brainer.
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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well remembered.
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can you find any info? I cannot. it connected to Synthia and the gulf, and Joplin secret morgue.
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This^^^ is really f'kd up, why aren't they getting those ppl out, WTF!!! FEMA should be evac'ing and housing these folk.
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HORRIBLE!!! verysad
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I read the article and came across where Alicia said that they could smell Chlorine. I cannot find it but wasn't there a reference to Chlorine and Cindy? Something about how Cindy reacts with chlorine or something like that? Darn it, I wished I hadn't skimmed over that part I didn't think it was important at the time. Why would Alicia be smelling so much chlorine to the point it makes her sick?

I don't think this is off topic, it all seems to be connected in one way or another - follow the symtoms to the source.
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So what is separating the sodium from the chloride?
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I don't know. I'm hoping there is a chemist in the house.
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Odd that on Fox news.com right now they have an article about unexploded ordnance lying off the U.S. coast in various places.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Two trains of thought on this U-X-E. If another well suddenly decided to blowout (think oil sheens spotted in the gulf recently which may have been intentional to relieve pressure under the gulf and LA salt dome) a cover story has already been established with Fox's coverage fresh in our minds. That is, if they need to seal this blowout as they did the last one with a "little man."

The second is an "accidental" deto-nation of these U-X-E on the end of the fault to rupture the sea floor and/or fault to again relieve pressure, or......

Also with the factor of the containers of leaking chemicals to ensure the area isn't disturbed and could be used to account for some of the mysterious illnesses plaguing the gulf residents....think recent news on mysterious deaths....

Just my 2 cents .
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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well remembered.
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can you find any info? I cannot. it connected to Synthia and the gulf, and Joplin secret morgue.
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litmus test. if this topic gets passed over, which it is, it should tell you about this thread.
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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well remembered.
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can you find any info? I cannot. it connected to Synthia and the gulf, and Joplin secret morgue.
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litmus test. if this topic gets passed over, which it is, it should tell you about this thread.
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[link to binnallofamerica.com]

[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

[link to www.scientificamerican.com] reading the comments now

[link to youtu.be] shows I was clueless I never heard anything about the Joplin tornado victims infected with Fungus
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

[link to www.youtube.com] odd

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To the good people living in and around the sinkhole area. Give us reports on bird population, bird behavior and frogs. Tadpoles especially, short life cycle, changes occur rapidly.
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is it me or has the msm reports on the gas n a potential explosion increased considerably today??? normally we hear nuthing now its ALL UHOH news.
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whoever is serious here, research the famed astronaut French lady from France, who had a lab that was set afire after she was suicided years back. She had said just before that she had to let the world know what they were planning. She was famous in France and worked in bio engineering. i looked recently and the info on her has been since scrubbed. it was hot topic during oil spill
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well remembered.
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can you find any info? I cannot. it connected to Synthia and the gulf, and Joplin secret morgue.
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litmus test. if this topic gets passed over, which it is, it should tell you about this thread.
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Not passing. searching with no luck. Do you have a link or something you can share? thanks!
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Another poster posted that something didn't sit right about this whole thing. I agree.

What is the gov't (no matter the administration) known for? MISDIRECTION. These scenarios are all important. Bur what if Assumption is a red herring? NORTHCOM Putting out an operation called ASSUMPTION causes us to focus on that area. Which leads me to question what are they trying to divert our attention from.
We should Stay on the yellow brick road.
It would be helpful to have a flow chart of the "facts" we know so far
The deep horizon wells would be I the center with synthia; assumption bio med labs; so called out breaks and other data coming from it. Maybe that will give a picture of what's missing.

Someone posted definition of 223:43 (or something like that) as legal code having something to do with land jurisdiction -secondary?
--the J. Ventura expose' on BP mentioned $40billion payment to corps of engineers for relocation and what TPTB wanted to do with the gulf area
--James Cameron dove in a submersible to the deepest part of the Mariana Trench and also a "practice" run near Papua. New Guinea. Conveniently Billionaire paul Allen(who I believe was mentioned as a Venter supporter) followed progress from helicopter.
--Are these trenches connected? Do they intersect with any fault lines?

We DO know an accident occurred on DWH and that the public wasn't told about them drilling a secondary well. Why? We also know what we were told about the usage of corexit an synthia in the so-called clean up process. The awesome work on this thread has given background info on corexit and synthia.
Yes its all conjecture regarding the possible connections but it seems all things lead back to BP and those involved with the clean up. If we focus on connecting the dots between BP and its relationships with companies we know are involved...that might help turn conjecture into fact and give us a map to this rabbit hole.
robynstorm1 on youtube has an interesting overview which also includes Venter [link to youtube.com] her part 2 lists a who's who of Venter financial donors

Also maybe they want the people in the affected area to leave on their own as it could reduce the requierd compensation payout (223:43)
Apologise for the long post. Hopefully someone finds something of value in it. I just feel that wherever we're being led away from (thru media reports etal) perhaps that's exactly where we should be looking

entire population of Bayou Corne about to be asphyxiated by giant earth-fart!

(i thought they evacuated all these people?) wtf

[link to www.examiner.com]
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It is not a mandatory evacuation and too many are saying to "trust the authorities" who we all know cover up for the corporations, to save them from fines. Their money is more improtant then human life.
I would strongly encourage anyone left there to get the hell out.
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