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Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.

 
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the bottom line is that the authorities still haven't told
the People what's causING all of this mayhem: where is all
of this fricking gas coming from!!!
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That's what I'm trying to find out, getting more and more possibilities but no answers. Just hope the people saying it's a massive methane bubble are wrong.
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the authorities are holding some kind of a briefing
some time today in Assumption Parish.

1. will Governor Jindal be there?
2. will Janet Napolitano be there?
3. will Sandia National Laboratories be there?
4. will the U.S. Department of Interior be there?

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


is there anybody in Government or in the Oil Industry who knows what's happening,
and isn't afraid to speak up !!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


I believe this briefing is the one postponed from Saturday due to new reports coming in. I will be surprised if any of the above folks show up.
 Quoting: ChiaPet


why do you suppose all of the authorities are afraid to
talk, and tell the People what the true magnitude and scope of this situation really is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


Patassa, if you go to the meeting can you suggest the residents that get to ask questions get to use a microphone, this is all being recorded but last time it was very hard to hear the ppl in the audience, this is important.
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will CNN be there?
will MSNBC be there?
Will Fox News be there?
will Al Jazeera be there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


will CSPAN be broadcasting the event?

IS THERE GONNA REALLY BE ANY KIND OF MEET AT ALL? EVER?
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Sorry if a repeat...running out the door. Officials: “Deep natural formation” may be source of gas around giant sinkhole — Fears it could reach surface at explosive levels
[...] the area between Grand Bayou and Bayou Corne has had a growing number of widely distributed sites where gas has been found bubbling up from area waterways. Gas also has been hit in the aquifer, and earth tremors have been felt in the area.

Parish officials said the gas in the aquifer has led to fears that gas could gather enough pressure to get through the confining clay layer above the formation, reach the surface and accumulate to explosive levels. Numerous tests for months have not shown gas at bubble sites, in homes and elsewhere has come close to such levels. […]

“Further sampling and analysis of potential sources is continuing to attempt a clear determination whether the source of the natural gas bubbling is a deep natural formation or whether it can be narrowed to a processed source, such as a specific storage operation,” [Patrick Courreges, of the Department of Natural Resources] said in an email response to questions. […]
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Darn it! Computer jumping and didn't log in. My Bad! 1doh1
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Thanks BFE! Don't go Dangerwalt! Seeker2, good thoughts...I don't have any answers and am considering everything...which does make one get overwhelmed! Hotel California comment...funny! banana2
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Funny and true lol, I have tried to leave.
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Ok.
I'll tell you why I get angry.
Is because of two events that happened here where I live.

1-a certain time the water we drank was with a strange taste.
were just noticing this for months.
those responsible said it was just our imagination.
after a while many sick people here,adults, children(my daughter)+ or - 60 houses (familys).

official result = water was contaminated.


2-have a mall here in my city that was a smell of gas.
people felt for weeks and months.
those responsible said it was just our imagination.

official result = gas leak + explosion + victims

that's why I get nervous..
have to wait for something to happen and then take the providences?

here one video of the explosion,people died there.





sorry.
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Thanks BFE....and 9720, I answered you on the other thread.....:-)
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aff much paranoid here.
I'm out of this thread.

It just messes with my mind.
these Americans are crazy,do not see what is happening.

Then bye,adeus,até mais,fui.

PS: não sou um figurante,eu moro numa cidade simples aqui no Brazil.
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You can't leave. This is like Hotel California.
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LMFAO!!!
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govt shills: 20

real people participating: 3

just stop it, this is worse than the military paying 5k for a wrench.

Pasassa start a real thread for real ,monitoring and condition of locals. these govt shills are pathetic, and they've crowned 2 govt shills as Messiah: radchick and sin. basically John Moore and Deagle. shill bottom feeders, probably SRA freaks, mkultra assets w/out a conscience to lying.
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Could you please link us to the meeting today that Patassa is attending?

The website does in fact show the meeting on the 10th, so it may have just been a misunderstanding.

Is there one today?
 Quoting: fredddddy 23964726


i have emailed the Governor and all the government morons
in Assumption Parish, and still no reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


siren2 ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

this is the quote of the email i just received
from the Assumption Parish Police Jury:

"The date was posted incorrectly. The Police Jury meeting is tomorrow at the Assumption Parish School Board Media Center. Police jury meetings are scheduled on the 2nd and 4th Wednesdays of each month. I apologize for that error in posting- it was caught quickly and corrected.
Sent from my iPhone"

wtf

wtf

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789

maybe this means that the so called "Tuesday October 9" meeting/briefing is some other outfit, other than the Police Jury?

i need to keep calling around and find out where this
secret "Oct. 9" meeting is going to be held.
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Update
October 5, 2012 //

The resident briefing originally scheduled for tomorrow HAS BEEN CHANGED to Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at 6:00 p.m. at the command post in Bayou Corne. A phone notification will be sent to residents today as a reminder. If residents are able to communicate with neighbors who do not have internet access, we encourage you to spread the word as well.

[link to assumptionla.com]
~Marsute~
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Update
October 5, 2012 //

The resident briefing originally scheduled for tomorrow HAS BEEN CHANGED to Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at 6:00 p.m. at the command post in Bayou Corne. A phone notification will be sent to residents today as a reminder. If residents are able to communicate with neighbors who do not have internet access, we encourage you to spread the word as well.

[link to assumptionla.com]
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yup. that sure sounds like some sort of a secret meeting to me alright.
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This was posted this morning.

8:45 a.m. Morning Update
October 9, 2012

The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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You 2 are better people than I am. I quit playing their games after Sunday.

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You 2 are better people than I am. I quit playing their games after Sunday.
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Not better Patassa....just been watching this shit all day and wanted to try to end it.
~Marsute~
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Since more of the sink hole collapsed. there is water flow. Why not throw a small rubber ball or 2 in there that have gps units in them and see if they can be followed. Hell maybe some dye in the gulf see where its all going. Just a thought
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This was posted this morning.

8:45 a.m. Morning Update
October 9, 2012

The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


nope. i have receive an email from the Police Jury (Erin)
that that information is incorrect.
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This what happens when they are going for coalbed methane (also called coal seam gas). THEY HAVE DEPRESSURIZED THE AREA TO GET THE METHANE OUT OF THE COALBED!! more land just collapse on the sw side of the sinkhole.

Start looking to the "lake verret gas field"

A few posts of mine ago, i post links with video. Same thing the depressurized the ground to get the methane. Methane escaped and a river started to bubble in a 5km strech, then the ground ignited (smaller scale than in LA).

I have suggested several time to step back and look at the bigger picture, now big dawg is expressing the same Idea, is his concept of the big picture the same as mine, I guess we will find out soon enough.

Just stop for a minute and do a little research in regards what is happening to all the planets in this solar system, and I think you will find your answer as to the source of what is causing the hydrates to melt, expand and increase pressure. Of course big corporate entities are going to take advantage of the situation as the heating makes the gases more available for extraction and hence enhancing their bottom line.

Look then to the earth changes we are witnessing as a testament to the same thing effecting the other planets is effecting the earth. Then ask yourself if you were in charge of countries, as in there leaders, how would you handle the situation, that is if you can with certainty predict what the eventual outcome will be for any particular areas. Perhaps there is another view point in regards to some of the governmental activities.

As a possible alternative. What would you do if you new that pressure was building in the gulf in the area of the 2 wells that if left unchecked would have disastrous effects on all the inhabitants of he gulf. Which then would be the lessor of the two evils, do nothing and have the disaster happen or attempt to avert it by flooding the GOM will oil and gas, with the possibility of people getting sick but far less than they would be effected had you done nothing. Just some thoughts, that have been running through my head. Not popular on a conspiracy site, I know, but all the same possible, as possible as many of the other theories about who is doing what, to whom, and what reason. sk
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Related....

It’s been called the Methane Bomb — a stash of gas buried under the Arctic seafloor whose heat-trapping power is much greater, molecule for molecule, than the carbon dioxide people usually worry about. As climate change forces the Arctic to warm, experts warn that methane could escape, speeding global warming. They can’t predict when the great escape might begin, however, or how fast it might proceed. They can’t even rule out the possibility that it might have already started. So they’ve been cruising Arctic waters to get a better handle on where things stand.

Now they’ve got one. According to Christian Berndt, of the GEOMAR/Helmholz Center for Ocean Research, he and his colleagues have known since 2008 that methane is leaking from the ocean bottom near Spitzbergen, an island in Norway’s Svalbard Archipelago. But thanks to a research cruise this past summer, they’ve got reason to believe that global warming could be part of the reason, if not the sole culprit. “We have no proof,” he said in a recent interview. “But we have several lines of evidence that fit well [with this possibility].”

The expedition started from the well-established fact that an enormous amount of methane is frozen into a kind of ice known as methane hydrate, buried in seafloor sediments and containing perhaps twice as much carbon as all the world’s fossil-fuel reserves combined. As long as the hydrates stay cold and pressurized by the overlying sediments, they’re stable. If they warm, they’re in danger of breaking down and releasing the gas into the atmosphere.


We know that the Earth's core is heating up due to the solar maximum as well as the photon belt energies, we also know that Earth has expanded by 27mi. at the equator due to the heating of the core. I agree w/ you sk, there is much more at work here than just the GoM issue.

[link to www.climatecentral.org]
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This was posted this morning.

8:45 a.m. Morning Update
October 9, 2012

The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


nope. i have receive an email from the Police Jury (Erin)
that that information is incorrect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


I think it may be two different meetings. The regular Police Jury meetings take place always on the 2nd and 4th Wed of the month.
The meeting posted for 6:00 PM tonight is a Resident briefing.
And, they have not changed the posting for the resident briefing on the website.
So, the logical thing to do, if you are close enough, is drive down there this evening to the command center and see.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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P do a Kindra Arneson and open up a blog talk radio so people can listen to locals and not govt staged shills that have popped up with catchy names and music. if this get worse
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random thought as to the bigger picture. Remember in the movie 2012 (i know i know) it was the neutrinos that were mutating. Well now that we are in this plasma cloud and with the sun acting so oddly, is it possible that the current "universal" situation is what was needed to "naturally" mutate these bacterias (and melt the hydrates)?

what if all the pieces have been in place and the "master key" or one of them so to speak was literally our new found place in space?

brain exploding.
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I think that you're very close to the truth there.......it's a much bigger picture.
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random thought as to the bigger picture. Remember in the movie 2012 (i know i know) it was the neutrinos that were mutating. Well now that we are in this plasma cloud and with the sun acting so oddly, is it possible that the current "universal" situation is what was needed to "naturally" mutate these bacterias (and melt the hydrates)?

what if all the pieces have been in place and the "master key" or one of them so to speak was literally our new found place in space?

brain exploding.
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I think that you're very close to the truth there.......it's a much bigger picture.
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see, that is shill shit. total science fiction, nothing observable or measurable. see what they do?
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This was posted this morning.

8:45 a.m. Morning Update
October 9, 2012

The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


nope. i have receive an email from the Police Jury (Erin)
that that information is incorrect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


I think it may be two different meetings. The regular Police Jury meetings take place always on the 2nd and 4th Wed of the month.
The meeting posted for 6:00 PM tonight is a Resident briefing.
And, they have not changed the posting for the resident briefing on the website.
So, the logical thing to do, if you are close enough, is drive down there this evening to the command center and see.
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Bayou Corne Sinkhole- New 50 foot Cave In Today Oct 9th
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govt shills: 20

real people participating: 3

just stop it, this is worse than the military paying 5k for a wrench.

Pasassa start a real thread for real ,monitoring and condition of locals. these govt shills are pathetic, and they've crowned 2 govt shills as Messiah: radchick and sin. basically John Moore and Deagle. shill bottom feeders, probably SRA freaks, mkultra assets w/out a conscience to lying.
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Could you please link us to the meeting today that Patassa is attending?

The website does in fact show the meeting on the 10th, so it may have just been a misunderstanding.

Is there one today?
 Quoting: fredddddy 23964726


i have emailed the Governor and all the government morons
in Assumption Parish, and still no reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


found these on The Assumption Parish Jury Blog dated
Oct. 3:
*NOTE* The resident briefing scheduled for Saturday morning has been rescheduled for Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at the Command Post at 6:00 p.m.

Oct. 8:
The resident briefing will be held tomorrow at 6:00 p.m., here at the command post.

Oct.9:
The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

Did not see any mention about the 10 th.
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This was posted this morning.

8:45 a.m. Morning Update
October 9, 2012

The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Earth Cries


nope. i have receive an email from the Police Jury (Erin)
that that information is incorrect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


I think it may be two different meetings. The regular Police Jury meetings take place always on the 2nd and 4th Wed of the month.
The meeting posted for 6:00 PM tonight is a Resident briefing.
And, they have not changed the posting for the resident briefing on the website.
So, the logical thing to do, if you are close enough, is drive down there this evening to the command center and see.
 Quoting: Earth Cries

well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
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govt shills: 20

real people participating: 3

just stop it, this is worse than the military paying 5k for a wrench.

Pasassa start a real thread for real ,monitoring and condition of locals. these govt shills are pathetic, and they've crowned 2 govt shills as Messiah: radchick and sin. basically John Moore and Deagle. shill bottom feeders, probably SRA freaks, mkultra assets w/out a conscience to lying.
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Could you please link us to the meeting today that Patassa is attending?

The website does in fact show the meeting on the 10th, so it may have just been a misunderstanding.

Is there one today?
 Quoting: fredddddy 23964726


i have emailed the Governor and all the government morons
in Assumption Parish, and still no reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


found these on The Assumption Parish Jury Blog dated
Oct. 3:
*NOTE* The resident briefing scheduled for Saturday morning has been rescheduled for Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at the Command Post at 6:00 p.m.

Oct. 8:
The resident briefing will be held tomorrow at 6:00 p.m., here at the command post.

Oct.9:
The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

Did not see any mention about the 10 th.
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Oop! You guys have that covered... :-)
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found these on The Assumption Parish Jury Blog dated
Oct. 3:
*NOTE* The resident briefing scheduled for Saturday morning has been rescheduled for Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at the Command Post at 6:00 p.m.

Oct. 8:
The resident briefing will be held tomorrow at 6:00 p.m., here at the command post.

Oct.9:
The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

Did not see any mention about the 10 th.
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well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
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found these on The Assumption Parish Jury Blog dated
Oct. 3:
*NOTE* The resident briefing scheduled for Saturday morning has been rescheduled for Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at the Command Post at 6:00 p.m.

Oct. 8:
The resident briefing will be held tomorrow at 6:00 p.m., here at the command post.

Oct.9:
The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

Did not see any mention about the 10 th.
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well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
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Can we stop arguing about this meating, I am pretty sure the locals know when and where the meatings are.
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found these on The Assumption Parish Jury Blog dated
Oct. 3:
*NOTE* The resident briefing scheduled for Saturday morning has been rescheduled for Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at the Command Post at 6:00 p.m.

Oct. 8:
The resident briefing will be held tomorrow at 6:00 p.m., here at the command post.

Oct.9:
The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post.

Did not see any mention about the 10 th.
 Quoting: ChiaPet


well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


Can we stop arguing about this meating, I am pretty sure the locals know when and where the meatings are.
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CNN wants to know where the god damn meeting is,
and i'm gonna find out where the god damn meeting is.
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well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
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Can we stop arguing about this meating, I am pretty sure the locals know when and where the meatings are.


CNN wants to know where the god damn meeting is,
and i'm gonna find out where the god damn meeting is.


What is this obsession of yours with CNN? LOL :)
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well, here is the email address of the Police Jury person
i talked to. would you please write to her and see
if you can get this information all straightened out:

erinwatson@assumptionla.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


Can we stop arguing about this meating, I am pretty sure the locals know when and where the meatings are.
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CNN wants to know where the god damn meeting is,
and i'm gonna find out where the god damn meeting is.


What is this obsession of yours with CNN? LOL :)


the gal i talked to at CNN said she can't take this
to her boss unless i get her more information about all this.
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Here is the video. They depressurised the water table, methane was release from the "coal seams." First a river bubbled, then this happened:

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