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a passing thought on last nights "if fungus, why drought...comments"

well, last year in houston it was dryer than a popcorn fart
but, after the very first rain, puffballs and very big mushrooms were everywhere

so last night I has to think about it
if its wet, fungus spores root and grow
when its dry they do not
they stay in the wind and continue to travel
so the initial first round of possible spores would travel very far in their first year before growing
now, it is curious that where last years drought ended, this years begins (location wise)

this still does not explain the lack of cases in tx and la UNLESS our exposure to the toxins in the first year (DWH) helped our systems adapt. I continued to (and still do) eat gulf shrimp. vaccines rely upon your body having small amounts of the possible attacker virus to cause the immune system to react with an "arms escalation" of specific defense cells
could this explain the situation?
just brain storming

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OP- Thank you so very much. Please keep safe.
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dr - think you're on to something there. I'd also add that there is probably a built-in mutation sequence. I don't think any of this is happening by accident.
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We know who Patassa is - we can figure these things out. Patassa is aggravating as all shit but Patassa is local.
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That's exactly what my mom used to say about me. Aggravating as all shit!
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dr - think you're on to something there. I'd also add that there is probably a built-in mutation sequence. I don't think any of this is happening by accident.
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that would make sense

like some insects have 2 or 3 stages of their life
what about an evolving fungus

on another though, we (at the gazabo think tank...lol) discussed how in the dry lake beads in the high desert in ca there is a shrimp that can lay dorment for years until the desert turns into a lake

could these things already have been here and due to space weather changes are awakening like the shrimp or the african catfish that hide out deep underground during the summer droughts?

could we see "prehistoric" plants bacteria or even animals suddenly emerge as the planet goes thru changes?

things to ponder

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Patassa,

A simple question

Does there seem to be a movenent to the water?
A "vortex" was reported earlier, but any indication if water is
1. circling
2. flowing in
3. flowing out

watch for leaves and sticks/logs that may give an indication of this movement

debris to the center vs debris to the shore.

thank you for your continued efforts, and be safe

dr
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I have never seen the sinkhole other than the videos everyone else sees. Would all that you speak of not show up on some of these ground level videos posted? There are a couple that's 2 minutes long and very close up zooming across the entire thing.
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OP, I can't thank you enough for the post and everything you and everyone else is doing to help us stay informed and more so get to the bottom of what they've done. All your efforts and this story unfolding are both truly amazing and devastating in the same moment. Hopefully, with all of us working together as we are, we will be able to finish the puzzle and save as many lives as possible before what seems to be the inevitable happens.

God Bless You and Yours Sir, please stay safe and as always, you have our swords.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Patassa,

A simple question

Does there seem to be a movenent to the water?
A "vortex" was reported earlier, but any indication if water is
1. circling
2. flowing in
3. flowing out

watch for leaves and sticks/logs that may give an indication of this movement

debris to the center vs debris to the shore.

thank you for your continued efforts, and be safe

dr
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Patassa,

Please, I would really like to know any observations pertaining to these

thank you

dr
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Patassa,

A simple question

Does there seem to be a movenent to the water?
A "vortex" was reported earlier, but any indication if water is
1. circling
2. flowing in
3. flowing out

watch for leaves and sticks/logs that may give an indication of this movement

debris to the center vs debris to the shore.

thank you for your continued efforts, and be safe

dr
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I have never seen the sinkhole other than the videos everyone else sees. Would all that you speak of not show up on some of these ground level videos posted? There are a couple that's 2 minutes long and very close up zooming across the entire thing.
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hey hick sell out, this isn't 2010. those empaths are only feelers. once they get the info, hackers move in and the info you are trying to ignore will go viral everywhere! who is the fool bitchz?
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the gal i talked to at CNN said she can't take this
to her boss unless i get her more information about all this.
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Snoopy Dawg here. I wouldn't worry about somebody here, somebody there giving the green light on a story.

One thing you should all be aware of is that it's a Good Bet that there are people in the media who can get info out to the public. The story is, and has been, worked up. Not like it needs much, just needs someone who has the guts and the nuts to tackle tough issues.

Anyway like Big Dawg has said, it's a Good Bet that someone will run with the story soon, but there's no sense is Crying about it. Enough of that happens anyway.

When you're Right, you're right. On the money.

Here's hoping it doesn't all go down in a Blaze of glory before then. Keep the faith and keep up the prayers - CUZZ that's what we all do.
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And I wrote him off after what his guys did to my candidate. Right on. Hope the story gets out far and wide, he does have a rather large audience, ya know.
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Good to see you again OP!

Snoopy Dawg here. The salt water testing and other issues have BEEN done. They are not being reported. Big Dawg's update will address this as well as further info.
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Thank you again Snoopy, for everything! rockon
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Patassa,

A simple question

Does there seem to be a movenent to the water?
A "vortex" was reported earlier, but any indication if water is
1. circling
2. flowing in
3. flowing out

watch for leaves and sticks/logs that may give an indication of this movement

debris to the center vs debris to the shore.

thank you for your continued efforts, and be safe

dr
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Patassa,

Please, I would really like to know any observations pertaining to these

thank you

dr
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opps, you posted as I did...lol

the few vids I have seen do not reveal much
I run my computer in a very stripped down mode so can not view video, and very limited streaming, for personal security reasons

hoped that personal observations of yourself or other locals could help with some research thoughts I have
I will be traveling home to houston next week, maybe I will stop in for myself
put the gumbo on ...lol

dr

dr
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Thank you to the OP and Dawgs for the updates ... and for everyone's continued research.

Even when folks are uncovering things not necessarily related to the whole sinkhole situation ... it's amazing how much shady (and sometimes downright disgusting) things our fellow humans (and I'll use that term loosely) are doing all for the sake of the mighty dollar. A monetary unit that is very weak on the world market at the moment. But not only for money, but for control. They can't seem to feel complete, whole ... unless they are controlling others, oppressing them. Sad ... and sick.

/rant

As for those few ACs who keep coming in here and dissing everyone ... saying the research they do is "fear mongering" and such. Well, they are doing the work the MSM either can't or won't do. The Louisiana sinkhole situation is a major problem, with far-reaching repercussions that can potentially affect thousands of people in multiple states. The things that are being brought to light are gravely serious and can (again) potentially be on the level of genocide if allowed to run rampant and with thousands (and perhaps millions) left in blissful ignorance. The more people know about what is going on, perhaps the more lives that could be saved because they have been warned and armed with knowledge.
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Hey OTF Hugging

Very well said, thank you!
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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--lest we all forget, a single informed and determined human being infused with the divine light of creation is more dangerous then a standing army of darkness.
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OP, I can't thank you enough for the post and everything you and everyone else is doing to help us stay informed and more so get to the bottom of what they've done. All your efforts and this story unfolding are both truly amazing and devastating in the same moment. Hopefully, with all of us working together as we are, we will be able to finish the puzzle and save as many lives as possible before what seems to be the inevitable happens.

God Bless You and Yours Sir, please stay safe and as always, you have our swords.
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Excellent post! And so true! aaa
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Thank you to the OP and Dawgs for the updates ... and for everyone's continued research.

Even when folks are uncovering things not necessarily related to the whole sinkhole situation ... it's amazing how much shady (and sometimes downright disgusting) things our fellow humans (and I'll use that term loosely) are doing all for the sake of the mighty dollar. A monetary unit that is very weak on the world market at the moment. But not only for money, but for control. They can't seem to feel complete, whole ... unless they are controlling others, oppressing them. Sad ... and sick.

/rant

As for those few ACs who keep coming in here and dissing everyone ... saying the research they do is "fear mongering" and such. Well, they are doing the work the MSM either can't or won't do. The Louisiana sinkhole situation is a major problem, with far-reaching repercussions that can potentially affect thousands of people in multiple states. The things that are being brought to light are gravely serious and can (again) potentially be on the level of genocide if allowed to run rampant and with thousands (and perhaps millions) left in blissful ignorance. The more people know about what is going on, perhaps the more lives that could be saved because they have been warned and armed with knowledge.
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Hey OTF Hugging

Very well said, thank you!
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Ditto! hf
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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another 3 hours with no serious research
this is sad

2 pages of love for someone who may not even be real

but no research, and ya'll can nnot blame the shills tonight

can we all try to "step it up a notch" for tomorrow

I'm done for now

dr
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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the two workers boat was tied to a tree
I have seen no verification of the vortex, so suspect that the salt water scare is only leaked brine and freshwater mix

no evidence of water movements, especially tidal indicated NO connection to the GOM

dr
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And with that, I'm heading to bed. Too many late nights and a possible abcessed tooth...time for some pain meds and sleep.

See ya'll tomorrow, God willing and the creek don't rise! (My grandad used to have some great sayings!)

'Night all!
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Thanks, Sin and SkinnyChic hf
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dr - the boat went down with the tree, and not due to a vortex motion? Makes better sense, then.

And the lack of tidal activity, at least that has been noted, ought to eliminate salt water from the GoM. But if not from there, where??? I gathered that the salinity was not as strong as what would normally wash out of a brine cavern.

Will think on it...
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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justanothergranny......what happened that day was another cavein. The workers boat was tied to a tree that was part of the cave in and that's what pulled the boat down....not a vortex.

The boats you see are airboats doing clean up work. You had asked why they would risk that a while back on another thread and I responded to you then regarding that. Don't know if you ever saw it.


dr, the videos are worth watching.

Thanks Jazz... :-)
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Dr. - I've posted all I could find for today. it's quiet out there...too quiet if you ask me. I hope that means they are working on a huge story. one can hope... To Everyone, I'm flying out in the morning to visit family. I'll be checking in from my phone but not sure if I'll have access to a computer to post. Stay Safe Everyone! hf
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Tried to start a thread with this video with no luck.

Re-affirms my belief of the potential disaster in the GOM?

This is a very real possibility in the gulf.

Permian History Methane Gas Explosion From Ocean Wiped Out 95% Of Life
[link to www.youtube.com]

A comment from the video:

"Major theory is that oceans can and have produced methane gas, and was responsible for the Permian Mass Extinction. This explosion killed up to 95% of life on earth during that period. A seafloor basin of methane saturated water may have a breaking point. An earthquake, underwater landslide, or even an meteor impact could have triggered this, and suddenly, like shaking a giant soda bottle, the deepest part of the ocean would have exploded in a deadly storm of methane bubbles."

Something similar happened in 1986 in Lake Nyos in the nation of Cameroon in Africa. This created a ground level carbon dioxide cloud that killed many nearby villagers. This is also mentioned in this video.

My personal concern is the oil-saturated Gulf of Mexico and the idea of using the a nuke to seal the flow.

also from the comments:
the segment in this video about the massive CO2 eruption was amazing, i had no idea CO2 can be released in that quantity. i don't think its some conspiracy, this planets nations value methane too much to waste it like that.

Curious to know what y'all think.
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sorry the link didn't embed

[link to www.youtube.com]
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who am I to blow against the wind.

Some of you have noticed. Deleted threads. This should be your first clue as an AC started this thread.

You are seeing the interconnectedness of all the different corporation and its not RANDom. 2+2 still equals 4.

Some formulas work time and time again, even after they have been discovered. Its BEZEK, and hard to fathom, but much knowledge can be gained. By people on both sides of the fence

At some point the steering of the ship will become a problem, as some have an agenda.

Many I's are now watching.

Pardon my spelling but I can't spell it out any better than that without the teacher diciplining me. Getting ostracized from the community, serves no one. sk


See my first posts on this thread. nothing has changed.
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who am I to blow against the wind.

Some of you have noticed. Deleted threads. This should be your first clue as an AC started this thread.

You are seeing the interconnectedness of all the different corporation and its not RANDom. 2+2 still equals 4.

Some formulas work time and time again, even after they have been discovered. Its BEZEK, and hard to fathom, but much knowledge can be gained. By people on both sides of the fence

At some point the steering of the ship will become a problem, as some have an agenda.

Many I's are now watching.

Pardon my spelling but I can't spell it out any better than that without the teacher diciplining me. Getting ostracized from the community, serves no one. sk


See my first posts on this thread. nothing has changed.
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There may in fact be different arsonists pointing fingers at assigning blame, but that doesn't change how hot and how massive the fire is.
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sorry the link didn't embed


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Fixed that for you!
If Divide & Conquer Is Their Grand Plan....It's Working!

For Some Folks, This World Ain't Never Going To Be Right!

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There may in fact be different arsonists pointing fingers and assigning blame, but that doesn't change how hot and how massive the fire is.