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SkinnyChic

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Thank you to the OP and Dawgs for the updates ... and for everyone's continued research.

Even when folks are uncovering things not necessarily related to the whole sinkhole situation ... it's amazing how much shady (and sometimes downright disgusting) things our fellow humans (and I'll use that term loosely) are doing all for the sake of the mighty dollar. A monetary unit that is very weak on the world market at the moment. But not only for money, but for control. They can't seem to feel complete, whole ... unless they are controlling others, oppressing them. Sad ... and sick.

/rant

As for those few ACs who keep coming in here and dissing everyone ... saying the research they do is "fear mongering" and such. Well, they are doing the work the MSM either can't or won't do. The Louisiana sinkhole situation is a major problem, with far-reaching repercussions that can potentially affect thousands of people in multiple states. The things that are being brought to light are gravely serious and can (again) potentially be on the level of genocide if allowed to run rampant and with thousands (and perhaps millions) left in blissful ignorance. The more people know about what is going on, perhaps the more lives that could be saved because they have been warned and armed with knowledge.
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Hey OTF Hugging

Very well said, thank you!
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Ditto! hf
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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another 3 hours with no serious research
this is sad

2 pages of love for someone who may not even be real

but no research, and ya'll can nnot blame the shills tonight

can we all try to "step it up a notch" for tomorrow

I'm done for now

dr
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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the two workers boat was tied to a tree
I have seen no verification of the vortex, so suspect that the salt water scare is only leaked brine and freshwater mix

no evidence of water movements, especially tidal indicated NO connection to the GOM

dr
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And with that, I'm heading to bed. Too many late nights and a possible abcessed tooth...time for some pain meds and sleep.

See ya'll tomorrow, God willing and the creek don't rise! (My grandad used to have some great sayings!)

'Night all!
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Thanks, Sin and SkinnyChic hf
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dr - the boat went down with the tree, and not due to a vortex motion? Makes better sense, then.

And the lack of tidal activity, at least that has been noted, ought to eliminate salt water from the GoM. But if not from there, where??? I gathered that the salinity was not as strong as what would normally wash out of a brine cavern.

Will think on it...
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Amen, Freddddy!!!

And dr, as for your question to Patassa...

I've watched the vids pretty intently, and have never seen signs of the vortex. However, I remember the story about the 2 workers early on (in Aug, I think) who had to be rescued because the boat they were in (on the sinkhole) was being sucked down. They were supposedly rescued hanging onto trees, and the boat was lost. There was no documentation to verify the story, and that was BEFORE there was any speculation about a vortex. In light of that story, and the fact that the sloughs are reportedly happening in a counterclockwise (or clockwise??? I'm half asleep) movement which led to speculation that a vortex was forming, I was very surprised to see vids with boats moving around on the sinkhole last week. Something doesn't add up...
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justanothergranny......what happened that day was another cavein. The workers boat was tied to a tree that was part of the cave in and that's what pulled the boat down....not a vortex.

The boats you see are airboats doing clean up work. You had asked why they would risk that a while back on another thread and I responded to you then regarding that. Don't know if you ever saw it.


dr, the videos are worth watching.

Thanks Jazz... :-)
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Dr. - I've posted all I could find for today. it's quiet out there...too quiet if you ask me. I hope that means they are working on a huge story. one can hope... To Everyone, I'm flying out in the morning to visit family. I'll be checking in from my phone but not sure if I'll have access to a computer to post. Stay Safe Everyone! hf
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Tried to start a thread with this video with no luck.

Re-affirms my belief of the potential disaster in the GOM?

This is a very real possibility in the gulf.

Permian History Methane Gas Explosion From Ocean Wiped Out 95% Of Life
[link to www.youtube.com]

A comment from the video:

"Major theory is that oceans can and have produced methane gas, and was responsible for the Permian Mass Extinction. This explosion killed up to 95% of life on earth during that period. A seafloor basin of methane saturated water may have a breaking point. An earthquake, underwater landslide, or even an meteor impact could have triggered this, and suddenly, like shaking a giant soda bottle, the deepest part of the ocean would have exploded in a deadly storm of methane bubbles."

Something similar happened in 1986 in Lake Nyos in the nation of Cameroon in Africa. This created a ground level carbon dioxide cloud that killed many nearby villagers. This is also mentioned in this video.

My personal concern is the oil-saturated Gulf of Mexico and the idea of using the a nuke to seal the flow.

also from the comments:
the segment in this video about the massive CO2 eruption was amazing, i had no idea CO2 can be released in that quantity. i don't think its some conspiracy, this planets nations value methane too much to waste it like that.

Curious to know what y'all think.
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sorry the link didn't embed

[link to www.youtube.com]
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who am I to blow against the wind.

Some of you have noticed. Deleted threads. This should be your first clue as an AC started this thread.

You are seeing the interconnectedness of all the different corporation and its not RANDom. 2+2 still equals 4.

Some formulas work time and time again, even after they have been discovered. Its BEZEK, and hard to fathom, but much knowledge can be gained. By people on both sides of the fence

At some point the steering of the ship will become a problem, as some have an agenda.

Many I's are now watching.

Pardon my spelling but I can't spell it out any better than that without the teacher diciplining me. Getting ostracized from the community, serves no one. sk


See my first posts on this thread. nothing has changed.
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who am I to blow against the wind.

Some of you have noticed. Deleted threads. This should be your first clue as an AC started this thread.

You are seeing the interconnectedness of all the different corporation and its not RANDom. 2+2 still equals 4.

Some formulas work time and time again, even after they have been discovered. Its BEZEK, and hard to fathom, but much knowledge can be gained. By people on both sides of the fence

At some point the steering of the ship will become a problem, as some have an agenda.

Many I's are now watching.

Pardon my spelling but I can't spell it out any better than that without the teacher diciplining me. Getting ostracized from the community, serves no one. sk


See my first posts on this thread. nothing has changed.
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There may in fact be different arsonists pointing fingers at assigning blame, but that doesn't change how hot and how massive the fire is.
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sorry the link didn't embed


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Fixed that for you!
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There may in fact be different arsonists pointing fingers and assigning blame, but that doesn't change how hot and how massive the fire is.
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so that means that the Gulf SALT water is entering that large cavity that spans different states and dissolving salt domes and carrying methane and oil and synthia and that Pasassa is not only wrong, but a SHILL. she is there because she is WORKING there. busted. those rednecks are not going to lay dormant forever. Pas, beware of trees and dogs.
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hey wait, so most people researching from 2010 thought synthia would be delivered by a massive hurricane. but now -- drinking water and aquifers being compromised with a synthetic bacteria moved by a virus that has been incubating in oil that has been surpressed by corexit is now entering through the large cavity!

And pas being local? so was Kindra Arneson who was suspected of being bought out by BP as she always had to explain how she was given a clearance and rode around on BP planes.

wow, so synthia is entering through the water supply. mother fucker. who let the dawgs out??
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Snoopy Dawg here. Excuse my creole French but what the fuck are you talking about?
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did you people not get the old GLP handbook? there are empaths that work this site on important subjects. we agitate the shills, put more confusion onto real posters, toss the information within our hands over time and let the shills make mistakes and then the truth comes to us. ask the whitecoats. they hate us. synthia is entering the water supply. BAM!!! spirit always wins!
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Absotutely. Wait till she meets Splenda ;)
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well all of real, normal people are out here watching,
and we're just waiting for someone to say something that's worth a damn.
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There may in fact be different arsonists pointing fingers and assigning blame, but that doesn't change how hot and how massive the fire is.
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You could be right. depends on what the meaning of "is" is. lol sk
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[link to www.bayoubuzz.com]
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Thanks to those who've done so much research for this SH subject, its been very interesting to follow this thread since the beginning.

If you check out Gabi's earthquake thread for the last couple of days, you'll get a clue as to why it was quiet today.

Stay safe everybody, lots of appreciation from a Louisiana girl with lots of family there, still.
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so dawg, is the info on this thread true?
Thread: Is there saltwater in the Lousiana Sinkhole??
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please see my suggestions on determining what salt water it would be

dr


Someone already knows. This was from August 22.

“Salinity estimates based on water samples taken earlier this month from a large sinkhole in northern Assumption Parish suggest the water becomes far saltier, even more than in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, the deeper the hole gets, state environmental regulators said Monday,” reports David Mitchell for The Advocate.

Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality officials said those test results are pending might indicate the source of the sinkhole water.

“We should be getting it this week,” Chris Piehler, DEQ Inspection Division administrator said Monday.

That information hasn't been released as far as I can locate. I believe there is a whole lot of information that has been obtained, that isn't being released for public viewing.
The poster whose dad was a retired industry guy said that the thermal imaging would have been one of the first things done, and I am sure it has. Part of me understands but they need to tell those people to get out of there if it really is as bad as I suspect. We already know from both the BP gusher and Fukushima that corporations interest come before public safety.
I pray for the gulf residents.
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Coincidental rabbit holes to dive down....

Remember the "training exercises" during REAL EVENTS?


FEMA is encouraging families, schools, businesses, tribes and state and local governments to participate in the first ever Great SouthEast ShakeOut, a regional earthquake drill in which participants – from the District of Columbia, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia – simultaneously practice the recommended action to take during an actual earthquake.

Plan now to invest in safety for 90 seconds on Thursday, October 18 at 10:18 am(10-18 at 10-18??), your local time. Drop, Cover and Hold On, as part of the 2012 ShakeOut earthquake drill. There are many ways for individuals, households, businesses, schools, faith-based organizations, community groups, and others to participate in the ShakeOut. For information about the drill and how to pledge to participate, please visit [link to www.shakeout.org] or [link to www.shakeout.org]

In addition to the areas participating in the Great SouthEast ShakeOut, similar drills will also be held on October 18 in California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Guam, Puerto Rico, Alaska and Arizona. For details on U.S. earthquake information by state and territory, visit [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

AN REAL EVENT (like discussed here) THIS BIG WOULD SHAKE THE WHOLE COUNTRY....


Plus lots of local FEMA activity in the are. Money being allocated for "community shelters")

October 10, 2012
Iberville Parish Disaster Recovery Center Now Closes on Saturday
BATON ROUGE, La. —Hurricane Isaac survivors in Iberville Parish have more time to visit the State/FEMA Disaster Recovery Center in Plaquemine. At the request of the parish, the center will remain...
Louisiana

October 10, 2012 EAST TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $3.6 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOMS IN EDINBURGH, TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $3.6 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOMS IN EDINBURGH, TEXAS DENTON, Texas — The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has awarded $3.6 million to the state of Texas for construction of...
RVI

October 10, 2012 EAST TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $2.4 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOM IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $2.4 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOM IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS DENTON, Texas — The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has awarded $2.475 million to the state of Texas for construction...
RVI

October 10, 2012
FEMA Encourages Participation in the Great SouthEast Earthquake Drill
WASHINGTON – FEMA is encouraging families, schools, businesses, tribes and state and local governments to participate in the first ever Great SouthEast ShakeOut, a regional earthquake drill in which...
District of Columbia, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Region III, Region IV

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well all of us real, normal people are out here watching,
and we're just waiting for someone to say something that's worth a damn.
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dr,

you asked why i thought the dawgs were in telecom (wireless/mobile/sat). it has to do with things they have posted. such as, the bz3 comment.

Starts on page 9 of the PDF
Examples of Network Connection Model for Emergency
Services:
ZB.3 Roaming at the Access Network level
[link to www.etsi.org]


i wont list the others but am sure you will get them. look for telecom's ts and tr data sheets.

Also, i couldnt post for several hours earlier. i would try, but once i hit the post button, it just brought me back to the thread page without adding my post.

Being cautious of what i post now.
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In regards salt water from the gulf in the sink hole. Just because the water is becoming salty does not necessarily indicate water is entering from the gulf as fresh water dissolving the salt in the dome would tend to make it salty. more salty than the water from the gulf which is indicated by the study. sk
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RE: The Oct 18 Shakeout ...

Great ... I'm in NC ... never heard about this. Love how they schedule these things but neglect to actually inform the public about it, unless they plan to just a day or so before hand.

Then again, I hardly watch TV (mostly online), so I don't ever see the local news or commercials. Hmmmmm.
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dr,

you asked why i thought the dawgs were in telecom (wireless/mobile/sat). it has to do with things they have posted. such as, the bz3 comment.

Starts on page 9 of the PDF
Examples of Network Connection Model for Emergency
Services:
ZB.3 Roaming at the Access Network level
[link to www.etsi.org]


i wont list the others but am sure you will get them. look for telecom's ts and tr data sheets.

Also, i couldnt post for several hours earlier. i would try, but once i hit the post button, it just brought me back to the thread page without adding my post.

Being cautious of what i post now.
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Nice find. And also you posts on methane from coal beds. Great info. Didn't get a chance to mention it before. Thanks for the hard work. sk
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PG. 5.. User I.D. 2684.. Carry On...

Seems the Love Boat's bartender may be coming after all. This wasn't expected and can only complicate. At this time it would be more difficult than when the barkeep's sister showed up with The Waves. No walking on sunshine this week.

Folks are remarkably in good spirits. My knowledge is direct as I am in the flow of the highway. There are many kinds of highways. Information is key. If I avoid roadblocks I can still navigate. So far the road crews who are trusted on this highway have patched the potholes. Running out of asphalt.

Again, the physical is NOT constrained at all. Why would there be a need if there is nothing to make known? The things that cause anguish among us loyal Protectors of the Home and Highway are kept close. Like a burrito, only the cook really knows what's inside. We consider ourselves Colenol Sanders, trying to freely give away the recipe because the RESTAURANT is corrupted. Yes, we risk losing our cook and SERVER positions, but by doing so many more in the days to come might be able to eat.

So, no, freedom is still free. But the continued damage to our Assumptions carries on. Maybe it's poetic justice that progress is only made, historically, when Assumptions are challenged.

Nevertheless.... All Assumptions are eventually thrown down. The force of nature ultimately prevails. You cannot fool mother nature. And mama is pissed. What will be, will be, and what will NOT be, will not be. There are excellent minds who have pretty much figured this out, kudos to you!

There will be no further talking from Home, the truth is out, and you here helped. Nothing to be done! Just be aware, and prepare. That is the reason. I leave now.

To the members of the band....I just love love Twisted Transistor, by you, Korn!
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Coincidental rabbit holes to dive down....

Remember the "training exercises" during REAL EVENTS?


FEMA is encouraging families, schools, businesses, tribes and state and local governments to participate in the first ever Great SouthEast ShakeOut, a regional earthquake drill in which participants – from the District of Columbia, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia – simultaneously practice the recommended action to take during an actual earthquake.

Plan now to invest in safety for 90 seconds on Thursday, October 18 at 10:18 am(10-18 at 10-18??), your local time. Drop, Cover and Hold On, as part of the 2012 ShakeOut earthquake drill. There are many ways for individuals, households, businesses, schools, faith-based organizations, community groups, and others to participate in the ShakeOut. For information about the drill and how to pledge to participate, please visit [link to www.shakeout.org] or [link to www.shakeout.org]

In addition to the areas participating in the Great SouthEast ShakeOut, similar drills will also be held on October 18 in California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Guam, Puerto Rico, Alaska and Arizona. For details on U.S. earthquake information by state and territory, visit [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

AN REAL EVENT (like discussed here) THIS BIG WOULD SHAKE THE WHOLE COUNTRY....


Plus lots of local FEMA activity in the are. Money being allocated for "community shelters")

October 10, 2012
Iberville Parish Disaster Recovery Center Now Closes on Saturday
BATON ROUGE, La. —Hurricane Isaac survivors in Iberville Parish have more time to visit the State/FEMA Disaster Recovery Center in Plaquemine. At the request of the parish, the center will remain...
Louisiana

October 10, 2012 EAST TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $3.6 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOMS IN EDINBURGH, TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $3.6 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOMS IN EDINBURGH, TEXAS DENTON, Texas — The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has awarded $3.6 million to the state of Texas for construction of...
RVI

October 10, 2012 EAST TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $2.4 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOM IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS
FEMA AWARDS $2.4 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY SAFE ROOM IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS DENTON, Texas — The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has awarded $2.475 million to the state of Texas for construction...
RVI

October 10, 2012
FEMA Encourages Participation in the Great SouthEast Earthquake Drill
WASHINGTON – FEMA is encouraging families, schools, businesses, tribes and state and local governments to participate in the first ever Great SouthEast ShakeOut, a regional earthquake drill in which...
District of Columbia, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Region III, Region IV

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Troubling information.
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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So you are waiting on this alleged "Big Dawg" to "authorize" a release of crucial information?

Even though you KNOW there are people experiencing symptoms and hardship in that region . . .

Your innuendo here is:

"full blow"

"buildup

"Blazing"


And so . . . you are insinuating the area is going to explode or something.

You are either withholding - INTENTIONALLY - crucial information that may help people . . .

OR

You are playing a stupid, reckless game.

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