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justanothergranny

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You go, AC 17888588!!

I know we're not supposed to feed the trolls...it's just so hard not to, sometimes, right? But we know the truth of things...and that other guy ain't it!
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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0266 and others, these shills seem to be diverting info about synthia flowing into aquifers from the gulf. that is the pattern it seems. real people go to the non shill threads, like the one pinned now. just avoid this garbage and liars.
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6:40am update:

Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an ...

??So was it normal or unusual??

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there is nothing "normal" going on in Assumption Parish.
the authorities are merely going through some motions until....
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just go back and look at the video of tuesdays meeting:
all those company-men looked to be in a panic -- their
eyes like deer in the headlights.
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I looked everywhere for that video, including the Assumption Parish link, could someone post a link?
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Thread: Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand. (Page 168) bottom of page...
6:40am update:

Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an ...

??So was it normal or unusual??

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


there is nothing "normal" going on in Assumption Parish.
the authorities are merely going through some motions until....
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just go back and look at the video of tuesdays meeting:
all those company-men looked to be in a panic -- their
eyes like deer in the headlights.
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I looked everywhere for that video, including the Assumption Parish link, could someone post a link?
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6:40am update:

Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an ...

??So was it normal or unusual??

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


there is nothing "normal" going on in Assumption Parish.
the authorities are merely going through some motions until....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


just go back and look at the video of tuesdays meeting:
all those company-men looked to be in a panic -- their
eyes like deer in the headlights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


I looked everywhere for that video, including the Assumption Parish link, could someone post a link?
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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justanother, you need to get informed before you make foolish rushes to judgment.

My AC changes day to day.

1788 is a shill.

My contributions are meant to inform, based on truth.
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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0266 and others, these shills seem to be diverting info about synthia flowing into aquifers from the gulf. that is the pattern it seems. real people go to the non shill threads, like the one pinned now. just avoid this garbage and liars.
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Quite.

The issue is the BP fault line hit, and the huge amount of methane and synthia flowing inward from GOM and pressure building into NMSZ.
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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justanother, you need to get informed before you make foolish rushes to judgment.

My AC changes day to day.

1788 is a shill.

My contributions are meant to inform, based on truth.
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dont you mean "my contributions are meant to inform"


"contributions" - now that is funny. you dont even realize how hard you made the others laugh.
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0266 and others, these shills seem to be diverting info about synthia flowing into aquifers from the gulf. that is the pattern it seems. real people go to the non shill threads, like the one pinned now. just avoid this garbage and liars.
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Quite.

The issue is the BP fault line hit, and the huge amount of methane and synthia flowing inward from GOM and pressure building into NMSZ.
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I agree that this is the issue but I don't like you attacking the DAWGS and acting like you have done so much. My first posting on this thread was on page 4. Where the hell are yours?
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Underground explosion with unknown cause in Wisconsin!
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Sorry here is the link.

[link to www.waow.com]
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You go, AC 17888588!!

I know we're not supposed to feed the trolls...it's just so hard not to, sometimes, right? But we know the truth of things...and that other guy ain't it!
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Thanks very much!SmileyWink
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6.9 EQ Aru Islands Region, Indonesia

close to antipode of the Sinkhole.
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And another underground explosion TODAY also in Glen Falls NY.
What the hell? Is this all related?

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Thanks for linking that here.....I posted that other thread and was coming here to link it. I live an hour from Clintonville and Wausau and smelled methane off and on all summer.
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my ac number is different because of my ip address
this could be the same with any ac
that is why I sign mine...usually

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Good job guys.
Continue the search for truth.hf
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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At this point looking at all the evidence, it would seem like we are seeing a massive build up of pressure that is seeking escape. Question being where is the weakest point, in the gulf or LA. Just a matter of time given the conditions we are seeing in both places. Gases leaking from the seabed and from the land in LA. Not good. It would seem to be a case of where and when, not if. The pressure will continue to build until an events of, I believe, huge proporsions takes place. Just my two cents. sk
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And is Synthia flowing through in the process?
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actually, as much as I believe this is possibly the case, there is, at this time no actual evidence
and we have no effect in the water with the tides
if the gas was connected, the pressure would transmit tidally, IMHO

I suspect that even odds are the gas is coming from another one of the well/caverns. the dome has around 50 active sites. cross leakage is possible, probable, and even likely, and if another company is involved, they damn'd sure are keeping their mouth shut, as texas brine currently is the only one holding the bag. someone is gonna eat the liability of this, who should it be, a small company, or someone with lots of assetts? hell, they may even be getting paid to eat it for someone else. remember, there is a LOT of gas still in that 2-5 sq mile dome

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8:00 p.m. DNR News Release
October 11, 2012 //


[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

Welsh noted that, based on “fingerprint” analysis and other data, the source of the crude oil and natural gas that have been observed at the surface in the Bayou Corne area appears to be one or more naturally occurring oil and natural gas formations, and that the preponderance of scientific evidence indicates that the failure of the sidewall of the Texas Brine cavern provided a pathway up to the aquifer and the surface for oil and natural gas that had previously been confined thousands of feet below.

“We have been driven by scientific data in all of our efforts to determine the cause of the natural gas found in the aquifer, the formation of the sinkhole, and the presence of crude oil found on the surface of the sinkhole,” Welsh said.

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Thanks, Patassa!
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dr-

i posted something earlier this am that answered one of your questions.

you might find this site interesting, if you havent already seen it
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Thanks for linking that here.....I posted that other thread and was coming here to link it. I live an hour from Clintonville and Wausau and smelled methane off and on all summer.
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No problem. It seem really weird to have similar things happen on the same day. They specifically mentioned a gas build-up about the one in NY.
I have a feeling we will be seeing more episodes like this...
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8:00 p.m. DNR News Release
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[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

Welsh noted that, based on “fingerprint” analysis and other data, the source of the crude oil and natural gas that have been observed at the surface in the Bayou Corne area appears to be one or more naturally occurring oil and natural gas formations, and that the preponderance of scientific evidence indicates that the failure of the sidewall of the Texas Brine cavern provided a pathway up to the aquifer and the surface for oil and natural gas that had previously been confined thousands of feet below.

“We have been driven by scientific data in all of our efforts to determine the cause of the natural gas found in the aquifer, the formation of the sinkhole, and the presence of crude oil found on the surface of the sinkhole,” Welsh said.

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i think this was a giving. the big question is if that is all or if something else is happening.

hopefully, this doesnt stop everyone from asking questions
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Thanks for linking that here.....I posted that other thread and was coming here to link it. I live an hour from Clintonville and Wausau and smelled methane off and on all summer.
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No problem. It seem really weird to have similar things happen on the same day. They specifically mentioned a gas build-up about the one in NY.
I have a feeling we will be seeing more episodes like this...
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There was a street near this one that buckled in several places over the summer. There have been several strange news stories like this since the booms back in the spring. Several times here we have heard rolling thunder on sunny days. I agree.....more news stories like this to come.
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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0266 and others, these shills seem to be diverting info about synthia flowing into aquifers from the gulf. that is the pattern it seems. real people go to the non shill threads, like the one pinned now. just avoid this garbage and liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22526465



Quite.

The issue is the BP fault line hit, and the huge amount of methane and synthia flowing inward from GOM and pressure building into NMSZ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390266


I agree that this is the issue but I don't like you attacking the DAWGS and acting like you have done so much. My first posting on this thread was on page 4. Where the hell are yours?
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You wouldn't ask that if you understood the nature of AC posting here.

Go back to your dog house. You offer nothing worthwhile here.
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@AC25390266 - YOU have contributed here??? I searched for your entries, and the earliest that were found under that number WAS TODAY! Unless you've neglected to sign in and actually have a different number, you have contributed little if anything here. so,...

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my ac number is different because of my ip address
this could be the same with any ac
that is why I sign mine...usually

dr
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That's correct. justanother blurted before thinking AND apparently before reading my posts. Threads are never helped by posters who refuse to think rationally and look before leaping.
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Morning all. well here at least.

No need to fight about the Dawgs.

Important things is figuring whats going on and its impact on the people in LA and gulf states and on a bigger scale around the world.

what we basically have is a planet heating up, releasing frozen hydrates, release methane, creating pressure. Just like what we are seeing in the gulf of mexico, more fractures and leaks of Oil and methane appearing and beginning to connect, I think we can expect to see on land also. Lets hope this process remains a slow, giving time for people in the affected areas to relocate as this thing progresses.

In regards sythia. It would seem a bi product of sythia breaking down oil is the release of CO2, which if done in a confined space would add to the building pressure.

My sense is that the government and big oil, were and are aware of the above stated and were aware of the situation prior to the blow out in the gulf, and the blow might have been an effort to vent the building gases.

This is contrary to the popular belief and the desire to place blame on man's greed. Do I know for sure. No but one can connect the dots to either support a large conspiracy or connect them is such a way as attempts to mitigate some of the world changes occurring.

Either way we are not being told everything, and as someone pointed out earlier, this might be a good thing, for if we all knew the total extent of what is about to take place it would totally disrupt the fabric of our society. For what, I doubt they know the end result and to what extent this problem will progress to. sk
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my ac number is different because of my ip address
this could be the same with any ac
that is why I sign mine...usually

dr
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That's correct. justanother blurted before thinking AND apparently before reading my posts. Threads are never helped by posters who refuse to think rationally and look before leaping.
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Although I did not realize that it was you (dr) I have seen your posts.
It still doesn't give you the right to act superior and belittle or bully other people on the thread! Just like you have your theories, I have mine and that is you are an asshole!Who do you think you are to value someone by what they have contributed? Some people lurk and some contribute what and when they can. It is everyone's right to do so as they see fit.

I have been with this thread since it was first posted and I am not going anywhere.
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Although I did not realize that it was you (dr) I have seen your posts.
It still doesn't give you the right to act superior and belittle or bully other people on the thread! Just like you have your theories, I have mine and that is you are an asshole!Who do you think you are to value someone by what they have contributed? Some people lurk and some contribute what and when they can. It is everyone's right to do so as they see fit.

I have been with this thread since it was first posted and I am not going anywhere.

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Get over yourself and STOP derailing this thread and acting like a whiny child in the school yard playground.
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Morning all. well here at least.

No need to fight about the Dawgs.

Important things is figuring whats going on and its impact on the people in LA and gulf states and on a bigger scale around the world.
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^ THIS

what we basically have is a planet heating up, releasing frozen hydrates, release methane, creating pressure. Just like what we are seeing in the gulf of mexico, more fractures and leaks of Oil and methane appearing and beginning to connect, I think we can expect to see on land also. Lets hope this process remains a slow, giving time for people in the affected areas to relocate as this thing progresses.
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Permeating land, air, and water supply.

Because various situations and conditions are at play, there is no way to determine rate.

In regards sythia. It would seem a bi product of sythia breaking down oil is the release of CO2, which if done in a confined space would add to the building pressure.
 Quoting: seeker2


Possibly, but bigger concern is mutation caused by mix with previous life form cells . . . mutation appears out of control.

My sense is that the government and big oil, were and are aware of the above stated and were aware of the situation prior to the blow out in the gulf, and the blow might have been an effort to vent the building gases.

This is contrary to the popular belief and the desire to place blame on man's greed. Do I know for sure. No but one can connect the dots to either support a large conspiracy or connect them is such a way as attempts to mitigate some of the world changes occurring.
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It appears that BP tried to mitigate repercussions of blowout . . . once the fault line was comprised, all bets were off.

Either way we are not being told everything, and as someone pointed out earlier, this might be a good thing, for if we all knew the total extent of what is about to take place it would totally disrupt the fabric of our society. For what, I doubt they know the end result and to what extent this problem will progress to. sk
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True.

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