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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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A few days ago now.
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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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A few days ago now.
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I sense something is about to happen.. I wonder if we will get any warning ahead of it..
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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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A few days ago now.
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I sense something is about to happen.. I wonder if we will get any warning ahead of it..
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I hope you are wrong. Things are bad enough as they are.
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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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A few days ago now.
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I sense something is about to happen.. I wonder if we will get any warning ahead of it..
 Quoting: 1908247


I hope you are wrong. Things are bad enough as they are.
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I hope for the best too.
By 15th November I believe much will be unraveling though.. just a huntch.

You guys are doing a nice work btw! Keep it up!

hf
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crude oil in the stinkhole?

well, since all of the natural gas percolating out of
the ground (in Assumption Parish) is coming from a pressurized natural gas
reservoir deep in the Earth's crust: it makes perfectly
good sense that there would also be some crude oil
associated with this natural gas reservoir and that
some of the crude oil is being pushed to the surface
along with the natural gas.
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crude oil in the stinkhole?

well, since all of the natural gas percolating out of
the ground (in Assumption Parish) is coming from a pressurized natural gas
reservoir deep in the Earth's crust: it makes perfectly
good sense that there would also be some crude oil
associated with this natural gas reservoir and that
some of the crude oil is being pushed to the surface
along with the natural gas.
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I was wondering when you would pick up the oil part.

What you say make sense on this, just a question though.

Are you connecting this gas to what happened in the gulf, or is it just something that has decided to happen, possibly because of earth changes due to that energy band thing?
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when was the last time any dawg provided any info?
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A few days ago now.
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I sense something is about to happen.. I wonder if we will get any warning ahead of it..
 Quoting: 1908247


this is the last day of the Saints Bye week.
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ConocoPhillips (2010)
The Role of the Mississippi in Deltaic Research:
Page 30, estimated Louisiana coastline 2100

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Interesting map:
[link to 0.tqn.com]
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Soil Pollution, Chemical Weapons (page 161 - BZ and Phosgene):

[link to books.google.com]
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Coon Dawg here. Hiya! Here's an update.

You guys were told about this weeks ago. Not unexpected. Horrible, not good, potentially devastating, and only a precursor but yeah, you were told.

Dawgs right again. Not that we're happy about that.

Thread: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO) (Page 5)
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Coon Dawg here. Hiya! Here's an update.

You guys were told about this weeks ago. Not unexpected. Horrible, not good, potentially devastating, and only a precursor but yeah, you were told.

Dawgs right again. Not that we're happy about that.

Thread: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO) (Page 5)
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Either you're "dawg" or not . . . but it's the same vague, cryptic re-hash of what OTHERS here have already posted.

Sheesh.
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We don't care about credit. We do however want to emphasize our record of accuracy.

So that the warnings will be taken seriously.

Those who have followed this since inception know how accurate OP, East Texas, and the Dawgs have been.

Linking to new "confirmed" info that verifies previous "barks" from the Dawgs is not rude or presumptuous or even lazy.

When the warning comes people need to have a reasonable expectation is legitimacy, because there will be no official warning, just an after-the-fact "oh my god".

You have been warned.
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Federal officials have approved a joint plan from BP and Transocean to identify the source of a sheen in the Gulf Of Mexico associated with the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

Officials said in a news release late Friday that the federal on-site coordinator approved the joint plan on Thursday. Coast Guard Capt. Duke Walker had required the plan, and federal officials had informed BP and Transocean they might be held responsible for the costs of identifying the source and the cleanup.
[link to www.usatoday.com]
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Absurd. Face it, we're never going to know what the hell is going on until they want us too.

I'm just going to keep posting this video. Not because I'm a huge JV fan, but because of what they found. It really is unbelievable.

27:35 or if you're really impatient, 31:20


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He you go GLP, you should get an idea of how big this is (if you dont already)

FAULTING, SUBSIDENCE AND LAND LOSS IN COASTAL LOUISIANA (1999)
[link to www.coastalenv.com]


Page 54: Look in "Mega Block II" - find verret lake, look where the E-W growth system fault is. its just north of the L. Sands - Frenier (SW-NE fault).

Page 57:
"Vertical adjustments to gravity induced earth movement and isostatic down-warping also occur along fault planes.
Cumulative displacement on growth faults and episodic changes in subsidence rates support this conclusion. Much, if not most of the vertical adjustment takes place along fault planes. Therefore, fault induced or geotechnical subsidence, as it has been used in the literature, is a major contributing factor to relative sea level rise. This paper identifies the importance of fault movement, the locations and types of major faults, and identifies blocks bound by the
major faults...Geotechnical subsidence occurs as movement along circular patterns of faults, which circumscribe collapse features, and along linear growth faults. Collapse features may be induced by salt depletion at depth and/or sediment loading at the surface. Movement along growth faults occurs in response to compaction, geosynclinal downwarping and gravity slumping."

"The origin and locations of major growth faults are related to basement topography and earth crust movements. Once established they become zones of weakness where vertical displacement in response to sediment loading occurs. Cumulative displacement of beds indicates that some have been active since Cretaceous times. Thus, the down-thrown blocks of growth faults become depressions which "attract" deposition, and in turn cause movement
on the faults
."

"coastal region is divided into a mosaic of massive fault-bound blocks. Movement of the blocks is similar to mass movement along the delta front, but on a larger scale and over a longer time period. Some blocks are moving and slumping into the deep Gulf of Mexico through a process of gravity induced slumping which is occurring on a massive scale along the continental margin.

"Until recently, fault movement in the coastal lowlands was masked and went unnoticed because of accretion processes. However, within the last 40 years the effects of fault
movement have become more evident because of increased rates of sinking and reduction of accretion processes
. Fault traces have become visibly delineated by patterns of land loss and marsh deterioration."

"Baton Rouge Fault System, located along the rim of the
Gulf Salt Dome Basin, is active and has caused structural damage to building foundations and bridges. Some minor earthquake activity may be related to movement along this fault system. A zone of intensive faulting (Lake Borgne Fault Zone) occurs between the Lake Sand-Frenier and Mauvais Bois alignments."

THIS AREA INCLUDES ASSUMPTION PARISH

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He you go GLP, you should get an idea of how big this is (if you dont already)

FAULTING, SUBSIDENCE AND LAND LOSS IN COASTAL LOUISIANA (1999)
[link to www.coastalenv.com]


Page 54: Look in "Mega Block II" - find verret lake, look where the E-W growth system fault is. its just north of the L. Sands - Frenier (SW-NE fault).

Page 57:
"Vertical adjustments to gravity induced earth movement and isostatic down-warping also occur along fault planes.
Cumulative displacement on growth faults and episodic changes in subsidence rates support this conclusion. Much, if not most of the vertical adjustment takes place along fault planes. Therefore, fault induced or geotechnical subsidence, as it has been used in the literature, is a major contributing factor to relative sea level rise. This paper identifies the importance of fault movement, the locations and types of major faults, and identifies blocks bound by the
major faults...Geotechnical subsidence occurs as movement along circular patterns of faults, which circumscribe collapse features, and along linear growth faults. Collapse features may be induced by salt depletion at depth and/or sediment loading at the surface. Movement along growth faults occurs in response to compaction, geosynclinal downwarping and gravity slumping."

"The origin and locations of major growth faults are related to basement topography and earth crust movements. Once established they become zones of weakness where vertical displacement in response to sediment loading occurs. Cumulative displacement of beds indicates that some have been active since Cretaceous times. Thus, the down-thrown blocks of growth faults become depressions which "attract" deposition, and in turn cause movement
on the faults
."

"coastal region is divided into a mosaic of massive fault-bound blocks. Movement of the blocks is similar to mass movement along the delta front, but on a larger scale and over a longer time period. Some blocks are moving and slumping into the deep Gulf of Mexico through a process of gravity induced slumping which is occurring on a massive scale along the continental margin.

"Until recently, fault movement in the coastal lowlands was masked and went unnoticed because of accretion processes. However, within the last 40 years the effects of fault
movement have become more evident because of increased rates of sinking and reduction of accretion processes
. Fault traces have become visibly delineated by patterns of land loss and marsh deterioration."

"Baton Rouge Fault System, located along the rim of the
Gulf Salt Dome Basin, is active and has caused structural damage to building foundations and bridges. Some minor earthquake activity may be related to movement along this fault system. A zone of intensive faulting (Lake Borgne Fault Zone) occurs between the Lake Sand-Frenier and Mauvais Bois alignments."

THIS AREA INCLUDES ASSUMPTION PARISH
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^this^
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The Anatomy of a Silent Disaster: Ongoing Subsidence and Inundation of the Northern Margin of the Gulf of Mexico Basin
(2004):
The reason: tectonically-related subsidence and accompanying
salt and shale movement in response to sediment loading.


[link to biotech.law.lsu.edu]
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ACTIVE GEOLOGICAL FAULTS AND LAND CHANGE IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA (2005) Note: look at image on 1st page


Salt Water and Gas Migration along Fault Planes (PG 136)

"Wedging of fault planes as a result of relative movement between salt domes and surrounding beds may create opportunities for hydrocarbon, gas and brine releases. Water and gas migration may serve to lubricate fault planes and may be a precursor to movement." - PG. 137

Effects of Faults - PG. 167
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Great posts Team Reaper, thanks for your research!
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We don't care about credit. We do however want to emphasize our record of accuracy.

So that the warnings will be taken seriously.

Those who have followed this since inception know how accurate OP, East Texas, and the Dawgs have been.

Linking to new "confirmed" info that verifies previous "barks" from the Dawgs is not rude or presumptuous or even lazy.

When the warning comes people need to have a reasonable expectation is legitimacy, because there will be no official warning, just an after-the-fact "oh my god".

You have been warned.
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You may not need or want credit, but you guys (and gals) got it. You've been right all along. Nevermind the haters. Thank you!!!!!
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Interesting map:
[link to 0.tqn.com]
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What are the grey areas on the map Teamreaper? Thats a great map...
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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Thread: What's going on? Gas wells in TX over pressure!
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crude oil in the stinkhole?

well, since all of the natural gas percolating out of
the ground (in Assumption Parish) is coming from a pressurized natural gas
reservoir deep in the Earth's crust: it makes perfectly
good sense that there would also be some crude oil
associated with this natural gas reservoir and that
some of the crude oil is being pushed to the surface
along with the natural gas.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


I was wondering when you would pick up the oil part.

What you say make sense on this, just a question though.

Are you connecting this gas to what happened in the gulf, or is it just something that has decided to happen, possibly because of earth changes due to that energy band thing?
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well, i have to admit that in order for my catastrophe theory
to work there must be the same kinds of fissures and cracks
in the earth's crust all over southern louisiana that are
under Assumption Parish; and, the odds of that being
either possible or true are so far out as to be impossible.

so, at this stage, we have to say that my catastrophe theory is merely intuitive.
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crude oil in the stinkhole?

well, since all of the natural gas percolating out of
the ground (in Assumption Parish) is coming from a pressurized natural gas
reservoir deep in the Earth's crust: it makes perfectly
good sense that there would also be some crude oil
associated with this natural gas reservoir and that
some of the crude oil is being pushed to the surface
along with the natural gas.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


I was wondering when you would pick up the oil part.

What you say make sense on this, just a question though.

Are you connecting this gas to what happened in the gulf, or is it just something that has decided to happen, possibly because of earth changes due to that energy band thing?
 Quoting: alexisj9


well, i have to admit that in order for my catastrophe theory
to work there must be the same kinds of fissures and cracks
in the earth's crust all over southern louisiana that are
under Assumption Parish; and, the odds of that being
either possible or true are so far out as to be impossible.

so, at this stage, we have to say that my catastrophe theory is merely intuitive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


Read all of teamreapers recent posts, they will give you an idea of the geology of south louisiana, I hope you do not find enough evidence for your theory to be possible.
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Was just going to link this! This is not a good sign... my oh my, something wicked this way comes. :(

bump
Love & Light from a Southern Lighthouse...
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crude oil in the stinkhole?

well, since all of the natural gas percolating out of
the ground (in Assumption Parish) is coming from a pressurized natural gas
reservoir deep in the Earth's crust: it makes perfectly
good sense that there would also be some crude oil
associated with this natural gas reservoir and that
some of the crude oil is being pushed to the surface
along with the natural gas.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


I was wondering when you would pick up the oil part.

What you say make sense on this, just a question though.

Are you connecting this gas to what happened in the gulf, or is it just something that has decided to happen, possibly because of earth changes due to that energy band thing?
 Quoting: alexisj9


well, i have to admit that in order for my catastrophe theory
to work there must be the same kinds of fissures and cracks
in the earth's crust all over southern louisiana that are
under Assumption Parish; and, the odds of that being
either possible or true are so far out as to be impossible.

so, at this stage, we have to say that my catastrophe theory is merely intuitive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789


Read all of teamreapers recent posts, they will give you an idea of the geology of south louisiana, I hope you do not find enough evidence for your theory to be possible.
 Quoting: alexisj9


yes, it is interesting that just in the past few days
people have been coming up with all sorts of data that
just happens to support my catastrophe theory.

btw, in homage to Matt, i am calling my catastrophe theory "The Matt Simmons Syndrome".
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Salt domes have naturally occuring pockets of oil and gas beneath them, why can't it be coming from there??
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well, there's no question but that the natural gas
and crude oil is coming from some reservoir in the earth's
crust. and it is very easy for geologists to to find and
locate any of these deposits in the earth's crust. and it
is assured that they know exactly where the natural gas
and oil are coming from (they just aren't saying to us).

my speculation is that it is coming from a natural gas reservoir that is so deep in the crust that we have no
technologies to drill that deep. so, we are screwed because
the petroleum engineers can't drill any or enough "relief wells" to even begin relieve the volume and pressure of this thing.
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Salt domes have naturally occuring pockets of oil and gas beneath them, why can't it be coming from there??
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well, there's no question but that the natural gas
and crude oil is coming from some reservoir in the earth's
crust. and it is very easy for geologists to to find and
locate any of these deposits in the earth's crust. and it
is assured that they know exactly where the natural gas
and oil are coming from (they just aren't saying to us).

my speculation is that it is coming from a natural gas reservoir that is so deep in the crust that we have no
technologies to drill that deep. so, we are screwed because
the petroleum engineers can't drill any or enough "relief wells" to even begin relieve the volume and pressure of this thing.
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Shill you posted the same BS in the other thread. The oil in Assumption Parish is a genetic match to the oil from BP's Macondo well...GO AWAY
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He you go GLP, you should get an idea of how big this is (if you dont already)

FAULTING, SUBSIDENCE AND LAND LOSS IN COASTAL LOUISIANA (1999)
[link to www.coastalenv.com]


Page 54: Look in "Mega Block II" - find verret lake, look where the E-W growth system fault is. its just north of the L. Sands - Frenier (SW-NE fault).

Page 57:
"Vertical adjustments to gravity induced earth movement and isostatic down-warping also occur along fault planes.
Cumulative displacement on growth faults and episodic changes in subsidence rates support this conclusion. Much, if not most of the vertical adjustment takes place along fault planes. Therefore, fault induced or geotechnical subsidence, as it has been used in the literature, is a major contributing factor to relative sea level rise. This paper identifies the importance of fault movement, the locations and types of major faults, and identifies blocks bound by the
major faults...Geotechnical subsidence occurs as movement along circular patterns of faults, which circumscribe collapse features, and along linear growth faults. Collapse features may be induced by salt depletion at depth and/or sediment loading at the surface. Movement along growth faults occurs in response to compaction, geosynclinal downwarping and gravity slumping."

"The origin and locations of major growth faults are related to basement topography and earth crust movements. Once established they become zones of weakness where vertical displacement in response to sediment loading occurs. Cumulative displacement of beds indicates that some have been active since Cretaceous times. Thus, the down-thrown blocks of growth faults become depressions which "attract" deposition, and in turn cause movement
on the faults
."

"coastal region is divided into a mosaic of massive fault-bound blocks. Movement of the blocks is similar to mass movement along the delta front, but on a larger scale and over a longer time period. Some blocks are moving and slumping into the deep Gulf of Mexico through a process of gravity induced slumping which is occurring on a massive scale along the continental margin.

"Until recently, fault movement in the coastal lowlands was masked and went unnoticed because of accretion processes. However, within the last 40 years the effects of fault
movement have become more evident because of increased rates of sinking and reduction of accretion processes
. Fault traces have become visibly delineated by patterns of land loss and marsh deterioration."

"Baton Rouge Fault System, located along the rim of the
Gulf Salt Dome Basin, is active and has caused structural damage to building foundations and bridges. Some minor earthquake activity may be related to movement along this fault system. A zone of intensive faulting (Lake Borgne Fault Zone) occurs between the Lake Sand-Frenier and Mauvais Bois alignments."

THIS AREA INCLUDES ASSUMPTION PARISH
 Quoting: TeamReaper


Hello and forgive my ignorance as I slept through science class, so all this is new to me, but I care so am trying to understand - It seems you have a good understanding of geology and hold a major key to understanding the core issue. Here are my thoughts: Is it possible to monitor elevation changes in that area (including GOM & Texas too) on an hourly or daily basis at least. Would this be one of the major keys to monitoring this corporate made monster? I know that maps will list the yearly elevation, do any do it on a daily basis?

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