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Tropical Girl, they usually go for the slow kill. I don't know if there will be a huge explosion in the Gulf with so much off venting at the pressure points. I suspect the "earthquake" in Canada was an underground explosion. So many witnesses said there was a rumble, then the shaking, then a "Boom!"

AC4512574 - yes, the Dawgs have been right on everything, but I wasn't clear on HOW the salt dome was breached in relation to Macondo. The scenario I described is the only one that makes sense to me. Remember the calls from the crew to family members before the explosion? They knew something was going on, but said they had to get off the rig before they told their family. They never had the chance.
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Great info. everyone! Thanks! hf
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Check out thread titled "Alert Oklahoma! - Sewer & Water Mains Breaking....."
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Sorry can't link. Check this thread out too for for the three quake numbers "Yellowstone is shaking it up!".
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Thanks Freedom, I don't know about the slow version this time, the arrogance of what is being done to grab the resources, well, it wouldn't surprise me if Mother Earth kicks back - hard.

SC - now we've Yellowstone - Canada, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, that is a lot of shaking.

Things are feeling very unsettled, maybe its just me, but I don't think so!
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Thanks Freedom, I don't know about the slow version this time, the arrogance of what is being done to grab the resources, well, it wouldn't surprise me if Mother Earth kicks back - hard.

SC - now we've Yellowstone - Canada, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, that is a lot of shaking.

Things are feeling very unsettled, maybe its just me, but I don't think so!
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Not just you! hiding
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Great ShakeOut earthquake drills

[link to www.shakeout.org]
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CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]

Last Edited by taniatarn on 10/15/2012 05:05 AM
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CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: taniatarn


Officials admit crude oil and methane are coming from massive underground formation below sinkhole (DIAGRAM & VIDEO)

[link to enenews.com]
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Here is video of the well blowout next to Highway 70 in 2010

[link to www.wbrz.com]

Not sure if it is relevant but a little too close to current events not to comment...

there was a well blowout just off highway 70 in August 2010..here is an image showing the sinkhole location ( on the left of the image ) and the field where the well blowout occurred...

[link to imageshack.us]


Portas said the well's only engaged blowout preventer failed Aug. 11th, causing a mixture of oil, natural gas and salt water to spew. Both the well's blowout preventers were tested and functioning properly two days prior, according to Portas, who did not say why only one blowout preventer was engaged at the time of the blowout.

[link to www.wbrz.com]

"From the people who have been around the well itself, it appears there's a lot of sand and a lot of water, which may explain why they've had no success lighting the well," said Waguespack.

[link to www.wbrz.com]
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Also interesting to note the wording here..

State health officials say at least 14 medical visits for minor health issues have been attributed to a well spewing oil, gas, brine and other material in Paincourtville since a blowout last week.

[link to www.katc.com]

Perhaps the drilling of this exploratory well is the REAL reason the dome was breached??
Also interesting to note the wording here..

State health officials say at least 14 medical visits for minor health issues have been attributed to a well spewing oil, gas, brine and other material in Paincourtville since a blowout last week.

[link to www.katc.com]

Perhaps the drilling of this exploratory well is the REAL reason the dome was breached??
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Okay- so admissions today as to what is in the area give a pretty good idea that the area is rich in resources so to speak..so taking in to account that the well blew out in 2010 BEFORE Texas Brine suspected their cavern was compromised...and the well was not only spewing oil and gas but BRINE as well...

this well may be the original cause of the cavern being breached.

Look at this picture..and then imagine drilling on an angle and...whoopsie....

[link to www.ggpl.com.au]

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Ultimately it means that there are people with BIG MONEY invested in the resources in this area...waiting for a payout. They will still do anything they can to get their moneys worth.

But the gas is going to their problem.

And the fact that this problem has been growing silently underground since 2010....think about it...the cavern had 1500 ft of hydrocarbon /shale mix at the bottom....that means the cavern has accumulated material that is now over 470 metres deep!... Thats NINE AND A HALF olympic swimming pools stacked length for length one on top of the other...

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I don't know, man. I mean, you've got a pressure problem, right? Have you got a better idea?
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 Quoting: dr.einstein


What happens when these five or six other wells cannot be capped either, something the pressure thread was trying to address? I don't know the solution, but alot of wise people here who don't co-opt the name Einstein - They are pondering the solutions, but in the mean time, those people in the LA danger zone need to be relocated at the expense of the oil man and politicians who allowed this mess. Their safety is the first issue. The second step is what every one here beside dr e is trying to do, consider all the variables(and there are many)and proceed cautiously...

Thinking before you act is a wise course of action.
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well, i just thought it out for you.
BP and Transocean are the only ones on the planet
with the technology to fix this thing....
maybe you should start planning a "welcome home" parade
through downtown New Orleans for them :)

(we're talking about the leaking runaway macondo well (2010)
 Quoting: dr.einstein


"BP and Transocean are the only ones on the planet
with the technology to fix this thing...." Hmmm....now where have we heard that one before & where did it get us?
Wake up & smell reality.
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We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
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The strategic alliance between Synthetic Genomics, Inc (SGI) and ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company (EMRE), represents a comprehensive research and development agreement to explore the most efficient and cost effective ways to produce next generation biofuels using photosynthetic algae.

Algae can be grown using land and water unsuitable for crop plant or food production, unlike some other first and second generation biofuel feedstocks.

Algae yield greater volumes of biofuel per acre of production than other crop plant -based biofuel sources. Algae could yield more than 2000 gallons of fuel per acre of production per year. Approximate yields for other fuel sources are far lower. Examples include:

Palm - 650 gallons per acre / year
Sugar cane - 450 gallons per acre / year
Corn - 250 gallons per acre / year
Soy - 50 gallons per acre / year

[link to www.syntheticgenomics.com]

Could this be the plan for the future Gulf coast states? Algae Farms?

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BP and Synthetic Genomics

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Morning update. Looks like they are going to really start to monitor everything. Going to add more seismic instruments, etc.

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clappaclappaclappaclappa
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Assumption Parish should close its borders, take over
all the land, declare itself an independent nation,
and change its name to Little Saudi Arabia!!!!
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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this
[link to www.youtube.com]

no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
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Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this
[link to www.youtube.com]

no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: miabelieves




Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.


The silence from her is deafening. It would be very interesting to know what happened to her. She was as outspoken as anyone can be.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25622778


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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this
[link to www.youtube.com]

no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: miabelieves




Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25622778

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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this


no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: miabelieves




Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
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Fixed it for you!
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U.S. authorities know exactly where all of its untapped
oil and gas deposits are, and they do not want to
mine any of them right now because they want all of
the other countries to use up all of their oil and gas
deposits before we start using ours.

this is the reason why the U.S. government so tightly
controls the oil and gas drilling and does not issue
very many permits.

(it's cheaper in the long run to buy all of our oil and gas
from foreign countries now, and save all of ours for when
oil and gas are really scarce)
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CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]
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And now they don't even have to drill for it!
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CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: taniatarn


And now they don't even have to drill for it!
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it's just gushing out of the ground! they can't put corks in it fast enough!
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The trees.......latested flyover is up, look how far the dead trees extend.....

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Just watched the Jesse Ventura video about the planned depopulation of the Gulf - this is what I came up with:

BP Macondo drilling was done to breach a salt cavern - they drilled a lateral line and breached the cavern, then blew the rig up.

Waited for nature to take its course.

The oil from Macondo is now filling the cavern and causing the sink hole. (by the way, every sink hole I have ever seen was a gaping hole, not a filled cavern)

People will have to leave their beloved homes, as the area is no longer inhabitable. BP and other oil companies will move in and extract the now easily retrievable oil. They don't even have to drill for it now.

Only explanation for how the same oil found at BP Macondo is now in the salt cavern.
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This^^^ Evil BP bastards. Halliburton too, they were in on it.
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Just watched the Jesse Ventura video about the planned depopulation of the Gulf - this is what I came up with:

BP Macondo drilling was done to breach a salt cavern - they drilled a lateral line and breached the cavern, then blew the rig up.

Waited for nature to take its course.

The oil from Macondo is now filling the cavern and causing the sink hole. (by the way, every sink hole I have ever seen was a gaping hole, not a filled cavern)

People will have to leave their beloved homes, as the area is no longer inhabitable. BP and other oil companies will move in and extract the now easily retrievable oil. They don't even have to drill for it now.

Only explanation for how the same oil found at BP Macondo is now in the salt cavern.
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring


This^^^ Evil BP bastards. Halliburton too, they were in on it.
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i'm putting my money on the oil companies. there's no money in tree-hugging.
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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this


no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: miabelieves




Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25622778


Fixed it for you!
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Since this was made, she has sort of vanished. Where is she? What happened?
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I know on one of the threads someone asked where is Kindra Arnesen. I found this


no clue how to embed, sorry

found this also...I sure hope it's okay to link here???

[link to hoodooed.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: miabelieves




Someone PLEASE do a thread on Kindra Arnesen.
She was very outspoken for awhile...said she would fight this BP thing until she no longer has breath.
Then she disappeared. She and her family were having physical problems (along with all the people they knew in their community) resulting from the BP "spill". Last thing I can find on the internet was a quick message from her saying that they were evacuating. She had proclaimed that she would not leave her home and people as they were her life.
Lost their home, lost her husband's shrimping business, lost her restaurant, her kids, she and husband were suffering health problems.

So did BP and the powers eliminate them, or did they get paid millions to shut up and get out???? Anybody know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25622778


Fixed it for you!
 Quoting: Paa Tal





Since this was made, she has sort of vanished. Where is she? What happened?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25622778




It was after this video that she stated on face book that they were evacuating. Nothing from her since! that I can find. If someone out there has the means to follow up on this, please let us know.
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Wow! I sure hope they bring the live cams back so we can really see what's going on down there around the DWH.

US Congressman: We can only hope BP’s nightmare well in Gulf has not come back to life — No room for obfuscation, ‘Spillcam’ must return

Following confirmation that an oil sheen in the Gulf of Mexico has origins from BP’s blown-out Macondo well, Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) today called for a full undersea survey of the Macondo site carried live on the internet so independent scientists can examine the activities as they happen....

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