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I'm seriously, completely, confused by something here & was hoping someone might be able to give me a sincere answer. Why are there SO many threads on the same topic? Is it that People get tired of scrolling through pages? I mean we DO have a "search comments" option & it is so much more convenient having all of the available info in one thread. *shrug* Just trying to understand. Thank You.
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I'm seriously, completely, confused by something here & was hoping someone might be able to give me a sincere answer. Why are there SO many threads on the same topic? Is it that People get tired of scrolling through pages? I mean we DO have a "search comments" option & it is so much more convenient having all of the available info in one thread. *shrug* Just trying to understand. Thank You.
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Just my guess. I think that once the shills and trolls come out people 'jump ship' and start a new thread. Then the shills and trolls go to the new thread and it starts over and over. This is the first, the longest, and also the one that has produced the most information. I for one am not going anywhere. hf
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I'm seriously, completely, confused by something here & was hoping someone might be able to give me a sincere answer. Why are there SO many threads on the same topic? Is it that People get tired of scrolling through pages? I mean we DO have a "search comments" option & it is so much more convenient having all of the available info in one thread. *shrug* Just trying to understand. Thank You.
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it's on Nika's thread and a few others. this is a paid shill thread. meant to confuse and they act like real people but are not. discard this crap, these people are the same as murderers.
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yeh, this thread pretty much sux
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You can pretty much tell how it is going to grow by the trees around. Dead trees seem to go (in patches) for miles.

So very sad and aweful. What are we doing?
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I'm seriously, completely, confused by something here & was hoping someone might be able to give me a sincere answer. Why are there SO many threads on the same topic? Is it that People get tired of scrolling through pages? I mean we DO have a "search comments" option & it is so much more convenient having all of the available info in one thread. *shrug* Just trying to understand. Thank You.
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Just my guess. I think that once the shills and trolls come out people 'jump ship' and start a new thread. Then the shills and trolls go to the new thread and it starts over and over. This is the first, the longest, and also the one that has produced the most information. I for one am not going anywhere. hf
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Great assessment SC, personally I've found a lot of great information on this thread - so much digging for info, the research and sharing has been a testament to team work.

Disinfo agents were very determined to destroy and get people to leave. It worked pretty well, but I will stay with this one, too.

Thanks for your contributions!
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I'm seriously, completely, confused by something here & was hoping someone might be able to give me a sincere answer. Why are there SO many threads on the same topic? Is it that People get tired of scrolling through pages? I mean we DO have a "search comments" option & it is so much more convenient having all of the available info in one thread. *shrug* Just trying to understand. Thank You.
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Just my guess. I think that once the shills and trolls come out people 'jump ship' and start a new thread. Then the shills and trolls go to the new thread and it starts over and over. This is the first, the longest, and also the one that has produced the most information. I for one am not going anywhere. hf
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Great assessment SC, personally I've found a lot of great information on this thread - so much digging for info, the research and sharing has been a testament to team work.

Disinfo agents were very determined to destroy and get people to leave. It worked pretty well, but I will stay with this one, too.

Thanks for your contributions!
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here's another sign of a shill or role playing thread. people spend most of their energy selling a fucking thread, like it is a job or some jim jones cult defending the thread. this is by far the biggest sign of a shill thread. nearly every page there is the smae avatars selling this damn - stupid thread. there are literally threads that cover every bit of information and much more than this on 5 to 8 pages.
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MUST WATCH VIDEO . . .

It's long, but he very clearly explains the geology of the area, the salt brine, etc. for those who want to understand, and he uses maps and diagrams.

Also of note is his claim that they were pumping antifreeze in with the Corexit . . . and his theory that when the waterway is opened from GOM all the way up to Newfoundland, the antifreeze (which does NOT mix with oil, btw) will flow up to the North Pole for the purpose of de-icing the NP.

He also talks about Indian plate locking all the other plates and if the Indian goes, it will be total crustal displacement.

At the end, he says that what was shown in the movie "2012" is what is happening now.


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When all that gas blows, knowing now oil is under the dome. What now oil is under the dome. What effect would the oil have in the atmosphere, could it block the sun as a nuclear winter so to say or would the oil simply fall down.
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MUST WATCH VIDEO . . .

It's long, but he very clearly explains the geology of the area, the salt brine, etc. for those who want to understand, and he uses maps and diagrams.

Also of note is his claim that they were pumping antifreeze in with the Corexit . . . and his theory that when the waterway is opened from GOM all the way up to Newfoundland, the antifreeze (which does NOT mix with oil, btw) will flow up to the North Pole for the purpose of de-icing the NP.

He also talks about Indian plate locking all the other plates and if the Indian goes, it will be total crustal displacement.

At the end, he says that what was shown in the movie "2012" is what is happening now.



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Ok someone should explain to this guy that gas in the ground cannot explode... Junk ass science
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You can pretty much tell how it is going to grow by the trees around. Dead trees seem to go (in patches) for miles.

So very sad and aweful. What are we doing?
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Yep, I suspect that Texas Brine rig platform is going to sink too.

People will really freak when that happens.
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I am staying here too :-)
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dammit my avatar is gone,, I need 5 more greener to restore it. :(

also still here.

Call me Snake Plissken..banana2
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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bump

Keep this thread active.
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Keep this thread active.
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no, please don't
it is a shill thread and dumbasses
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quote-
ONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]
end quote

In relation to this. Was looking up something and found the golden gate article this ene excerpt comes from and a related one on Grand Gulf.

Golden Gate is leasing from grand gulf which is leasingf from an specified entity. As I recall ( and you can check this in the linksto see if my memory was accurate, grand gulf was getting about 7% share of profit and Golden gate about 15% of grand Gulfs total.

Both are based in Perth, Australia. Golden Gate claims to be leasing 35,000 acres ( thesalt dome couldn't be that big I don't think, so I have to assume it's not all in the napoleonville salt dome. I looked up napoleonville 3D project.

In piecing things together, I think the second articvle which was published in a penn petroleum magazine, began the surveys in 2007. 2 parts, survey and drilling.

3D seismology ( and there is a 4D) was described under seismic reflectivity ( wikipedia) which describes both frequency at speed of sound and electromagnetism being used to survey and drill. Mentions a Vibroseis machine.

Also read somewhere in relation to drilling technology that gravitational forces are also used. Gravitational changes ( density) are connected with static fields theory techniques and scalar longitudinal wave manipulation techniques ( as are frequency and EM for the latter). Both of these also affect or use space/time so maybe that is the 4D technology? Perhaps the sound and EM commonly used could be a standard 3 space laws operation without the scalar components. Hadn't really thought it through.

Anyway here are the links
[link to www.ggpl.com.au]
What do you know? It was bookmarked to the proper page which now has no info and says the page is under construction. If I copied the info, I'll try to post it.
This had a lot of detail, as if prepared for potential chareholders/investors to see. Long series of geological info and charts afterwards which I had not really read.

[link to www.pennenergy.com]

The bottom line is that a whole wide expanse of southern La and beyond is being fracked intensively by companies based outside of the US. These 2 documents place it at lest since 2007, but the seismic reflectiveity techniques were said or implied to be used for decades

Also, DNR or some govt agency had mentioned a neutron scan log in relation to tests that were done. I didn't research this to any degree, but learned it would involve a neutorn beam. Neutron beanm are produced by atomic fission.
Some scans invovles the scanned object sending back gamma rays. I saw from the google serach page that this technology seems to be common not only in mining minerals/oilgas, but also in exploring outer space targets?objects/phenomena


If this one disappears, which I doubt since ene hasn't quoted it, someone mention this and I'll see if I have info.
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augh. second paragraph should read UNspecified entity not specified. Late night
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CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to
Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010...

"Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome"

[link to enenews.com]
end quote

In relation to this. Was looking up something and found the golden gate article this ene excerpt comes from and a related one on Grand Gulf.

Golden Gate is leasing from grand gulf which is leasingf from an specified entity. As I recall ( and you can check this in the linksto see if my memory was accurate, grand gulf was getting about 7% share of profit and Golden gate about 15% of grand Gulfs total.

Both are based in Perth, Australia. Golden Gate claims to be leasing 35,000 acres ( thesalt dome couldn't be that big I don't think, so I have to assume it's not all in the napoleonville salt dome. I looked up napoleonville 3D project.

In piecing things together, I think the second articvle which was published in a penn petroleum magazine, began the surveys in 2007. 2 parts, survey and drilling.

3D seismology ( and there is a 4D) was described under seismic reflectivity ( wikipedia) which describes both frequency at speed of sound and electromagnetism being used to survey and drill. Mentions a Vibroseis machine.

Also read somewhere in relation to drilling technology that gravitational forces are also used. Gravitational changes ( density) are connected with static fields theory techniques and scalar longitudinal wave manipulation techniques ( as are frequency and EM for the latter). Both of these also affect or use space/time so maybe that is the 4D technology? Perhaps the sound and EM commonly used could be a standard 3 space laws operation without the scalar components. Hadn't really thought it through.

Anyway here are the links
[link to www.ggpl.com.au]
What do you know? It was bookmarked to the proper page which now has no info and says the page is under construction. If I copied the info, I'll try to post it.
This had a lot of detail, as if prepared for potential chareholders/investors to see. Long series of geological info and charts afterwards which I had not really read.

[link to www.pennenergy.com]

The bottom line is that a whole wide expanse of southern La and beyond is being fracked intensively by companies based outside of the US. These 2 documents place it at lest since 2007, but the seismic reflectiveity techniques were said or implied to be used for decades

Also, DNR or some govt agency had mentioned a neutron scan log in relation to tests that were done. I didn't research this to any degree, but learned it would involve a neutorn beam. Neutron beanm are produced by atomic fission.
Some scans invovles the scanned object sending back gamma rays. I saw from the google serach page that this technology seems to be common not only in mining minerals/oilgas, but also in exploring outer space targets?objects/phenomena


If this one disappears, which I doubt since ene hasn't quoted it, someone mention this and I'll see if I have info.
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Good detective work AC. It appears the rabbit hole may be even deeper than the sinkhole.
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Need to make a correction. Didn't lease 35,000 acres. It reads to me like they have the possilibity of doing the "shoots" surveys of up to 35,00 acres

Here is the top part. The rest is long. If people want it I'll copy it.

quote from golden gate petroleum page linked previously-

Napoleonville salt dome Project

On 5 March 2010 Golden Gate Petroleum Ltd (ASX: GGP) announced that it has entered into a letter of intent with Grand Gulf Energy Limited (ASX: GGE) (“ Grand Gulf ”) to acquire a 15% working interest in the Napoleonville Salt Dome. Napoleonville is a new high impact oil and gas exploration and development project located onshore in south Louisiana and South of the Bullseye project.

Highlights

The Napoleonville Salt Dome has the potential to contain 520 billion cubic feet (BCF) of gas and 4.5 million barrels of oil (MMBO) from over 60 prospects and leads which has been identified so far from Grand Gulf’s proprietary 50 square mile 3D seismic survey. The agreement with Grand Gulf includes access to the entire Napoleonville potential.

Preparations have begun to drill the first three well program with the initial well expected to spud in May 2010. The first three wells are targeting a total of 9.2 BCF of gas and 1.6 MMBO of oil at shallow depths from 5,000 feet to 10,000 feet with over half the targeted potential classified as low risk proven undeveloped reserves (PUD’s).

The Napoleonville Salt Dome has historically produced 188 billion cubic feet of gas and 20.2 million barrels of oil. Multiple high quality targets have been identified from the recent 50 sq mile 3D seismic survey and as the technical work continues, it is likely to generate significantly more prospect and PUD opportunities. The primary targeted sands are Tex W, Big Hum, Operc, Cris R II – VII, Marg Vag, Camerina and Miogyp with sands commencing at 4,000ft to 14,000ft.

As of February 2010, approximately 5,700 acres of leases had been exercised from Grand Gulf and partners 35,300 optioned acres pertaining to the seismic shoot. Relationships with the various landowners previously under option have been maintained in preparation to lease newly developed prospects as they advance

Napoleonville forms part of GGP’s strategy to invest in low-cost, high impact, known hydrocarbon bearing areas which in the Company’s view are moderately low risk in onshore Louisiana or Texas where its knowledge base and operational experience has been established. By adding the Napoleonville prospect to our existing projects—Fausse Point, Bowtie, Silverwood and Bullseye, we have created a diversified mix of high quality prospects providing the best opportunity to achieve long term success

Subject to a mutually agreed Sale and Purchase agreement Golden Gate will pay 23% of costs to earn a 15% working interest with an entry fee of US$300,000 payable to earn an interest in the first three prospects. Golden Gate will contribute an estimated US$190,000 towards the dry hole cost of drilling the first well with an additional estimated US$130,000 towards completion costs in the event of exploration success, along with similar contributions for the second and third well. Golden Gate will have the option to participate in subsequent three well programs on the same terms and can ultimately earn a 15% working interest over the entire dome.

A summary of the Napoleonville Salt Dome is included in Appendix 1.



Drilling Plan

The current plan is to drill three initial wells.
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Re: Multi agencies searching for an explosion that has been felt in all NW La..E Texas & S Ar.

Did anyone see the above thread yet?
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Loud Explosion in North Louisiana- KSLA 12 Heard over East Texas - Minden LA

What is really happening in LA?
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Loud Explosion in North Louisiana- KSLA 12 Heard over East Texas - Minden LA

What is really happening in LA?
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Possible diversion . . .
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The Dawgs were re-assigned to something unrelated (but possibly related). Then the latest Dawg's message ended with frown emoticon. Then hours later this shit with an explosion heard in FOUR STATES happens.

Might wanna rethink the whole "Dawgs are shills" scenario.
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Snoopy Dawg here. There will be an update in the morning. Due to the nature of the Dawgs' various duties changing and re-assignment to other non-related (but possibly related) issues, this will be the last update. At least for the Assumption issue. If our new duties turn out to be of similar nature and circumstance - which we think they will - we will once more do what we can.

Let the reader understand. :(
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Weird that the Dawgs are reassigned then this explosion business happens..."unrelated but possibly related".

Anyone else think this is oddly related?
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You can pretty much tell how it is going to grow by the trees around. Dead trees seem to go (in patches) for miles.

So very sad and aweful. What are we doing?
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Yep, I suspect that Texas Brine rig platform is going to sink too.

People will really freak when that happens.
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I just hope the people on it have a chance to get of it first.
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Snoopy Dawg here. There will be an update in the morning. Due to the nature of the Dawgs' various duties changing and re-assignment to other non-related (but possibly related) issues, this will be the last update. At least for the Assumption issue. If our new duties turn out to be of similar nature and circumstance - which we think they will - we will once more do what we can.

Let the reader understand. :(
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Weird that the Dawgs are reassigned then this explosion business happens..."unrelated but possibly related".

Anyone else think this is oddly related?
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I've been following this thread since the beginning and my head is spinning. I believe now anything is possible. Does anybody remember something one of the Dawgs said about what happens next is intentional? Or did I dream that? Somebody tell me this is all a dream. What is happening in Louisiana appears to me to be very horrible.
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Snoopy Dawg here. There will be an update in the morning. Due to the nature of the Dawgs' various duties changing and re-assignment to other non-related (but possibly related) issues, this will be the last update. At least for the Assumption issue. If our new duties turn out to be of similar nature and circumstance - which we think they will - we will once more do what we can.

Let the reader understand. :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461956


Weird that the Dawgs are reassigned then this explosion business happens..."unrelated but possibly related".

Anyone else think this is oddly related?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868499


I've been following this thread since the beginning and my head is spinning. I believe now anything is possible. Does anybody remember something one of the Dawgs said about what happens next is intentional? Or did I dream that? Somebody tell me this is all a dream. What is happening in Louisiana appears to me to be very horrible.
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Just magicians fighting each other;
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AC 1342532-Please continue, the information is fascinating & I have no way of getting to a comp to look this up until early PM. That the report from 2010 is stating what has only just been "confirmed"(at least the way it appeared to me was that "new findings showed a massive ammount of NG, Oil & other prospects). Am I following this correctly.





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