Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.

Rem,

I have looked at the video from day one and the pictures. I have to agree the trees don't look healthy. I am not a tree expert by any means so I will take it at face value. In my opinion they are dying from whatever is in the surrounding environment but why hash the tree out? Bigger problems than the tree and sink hole, again just from my own logical thinking conclusions from everything I read. Some great minds and people who are doing excellent research are in this thread.

If, I am wrong about what I think on the tree's I will come back next summer and apologize to everyone who said they are not dying. However, I think the issue is bigger than tree's. Am I making sense?

Hey Mia....the tree thing is getting on my nerves too, because I can even post 3 different links to other source pictures of what bald cypress trees look like in the winter,and I am STILL called a liar and a shill for trying to educate people.

But no, it's not about the trees. It's about people wanting to believe the worst, and saying, and believeing all those trees are dead and dying supports those beliefs. Someone coming along and saying/proving the trees are not dying with logical, factual evidence shatters the argument, then people have nothing negative to hang on to, like surely if all those trees are dying, than so shall all of us here.

And you're right that it's not even about the sinkhole anymore. That was my point on the other thread that re-earned me the title of shill.

I read something a while back from a poster here saying how upset she was that a friend was coming to New Orleans for a vacation, and that she felt she shouldn't. Another guy says that we all are basically living in, drinking and eating sewer. I read crap like that all the time.

When all these little games are over with and everyone goes on to their next GLP doom exposure/high alert/red flag issue, then we will all still be here with land and homes worth nothing, and a dying economy/community because everyone has been scared shitless at the thought of coming anywhere near here. Sort of like what you see happen to small towns when an interstate system is built bypassing those small towns.

Do I have the right to be pissed about that? I think I do, yes.

I've read everything, but didn't see that, I thought the best guess was Minot (and the lost nuke?)

and I don't believe anything AC...956 says.

the big piece of information the People need now is:
they have placed natural gas monitors (methane) all
over Assumption Parish, and The People of Assumption Parish
are entitled to know what the measurements are for each
instrument, on a daily basis.

this information, about how much natural gas is percolating
out of the ground (all around in Assumption Parish), will be
the key to determining how much the PROBLEM is spreading.

Yes, that would seem to make sense, and they should have updates daily regarding drinking water etc.

well, i can imagine where they get their drinking water from;
i mean, any water that's in the ground (even the aquifer) is
swamp water.

BUT! the natural gas in the aquifer isn't the "PROBLEM" either.
the PROBLEM is: that there is *natural gas* percolating
up from a reservoir deposit deep in the crust, and it
seem to be saturating all of the ground with natural gas,
which is poisoning all of the ground and air in Assumption Parish, and the question is: just how many Parishes is
this THING going to swallow up.

Thermogenic methane is created by the thermal decomposition of buried organic material. It is found in rocks buried deeper within the earth and is produced by drilling an oil and gas well and hydraulically fracturing the rocks that contain the gas... thermogenic methane is generally associated with oil and gas development, while biogenic methane is not.

[link to cogcc.state.co.us (secure)]

This seems to point in that general direction, hiden in plain site comes to mind.

TR,

People have described a feeling of a "loss of pressure" in the room before or after the sound that night around midnight. Also you mentioned "fire" in your response above. The trees around the sink hole are chalky white.

Did they try to cauterize or block off this area with a weapon of some sort?

Thanks.

So all methane is not alike. Somewhat like blood can be identified by type.


How large is the methane deposit that is percolating from the crust that you refer to? Is that known?

Maybe the size is not the right question.

Heck I don't know, this is frustrating as hell if you are not a geologist!

Methane is fingerprinted by isotope.
See page 15 for visual representation:
[link to www.epa.gov]

So all methane is not alike. Somewhat like blood can be identified by type.


How large is the methane deposit that is percolating from the crust that you refer to? Is that known?

Maybe the size is not the right question.

Heck I don't know, this is frustrating as hell if you are not a geologist!

You can say they are not dying but they certainly are disappearing. Are you worried about the expansion on the hole itself?

To answer your question, no that is not known. It is also not known where it is, or where it is coming from.

They drilled 3 vent wells to start flaring the gas off. One had no gas. The other two didn't have enough gas pressure to flare. So, we went right back to square one.

Hey Mia....the tree thing is getting on my nerves too, because I can even post 3 different links to other source pictures of what bald cypress trees look like in the winter,and I am STILL called a liar and a shill for trying to educate people.

But no, it's not about the trees. It's about people wanting to believe the worst, and saying, and believeing all those trees are dead and dying supports those beliefs. Someone coming along and saying/proving the trees are not dying with logical, factual evidence shatters the argument, then people have nothing negative to hang on to, like surely if all those trees are dying, than so shall all of us here.

And you're right that it's not even about the sinkhole anymore. That was my point on the other thread that re-earned me the title of shill.

I read something a while back from a poster here saying how upset she was that a friend was coming to New Orleans for a vacation, and that she felt she shouldn't. Another guy says that we all are basically living in, drinking and eating sewer. I read crap like that all the time.

When all these little games are over with and everyone goes on to their next GLP doom exposure/high alert/red flag issue, then we will all still be here with land and homes worth nothing, and a dying economy/community because everyone has been scared shitless at the thought of coming anywhere near here. Sort of like what you see happen to small towns when an interstate system is built bypassing those small towns.

Do I have the right to be pissed about that? I think I do, yes.

I hope you and your people are well organized and will put an end to frakking. It really doesn't take much study to see how destructive it is and the end of cheap oil is in no way an excuse to continue this.

But if you read the emergency directives, they knew a great deal about the gas!

What?

This problem has nothing to do with fracking. This problem resulted from a brine cavern being mined too close to a salt dome edege.

What?

This problem has nothing to do with fracking. This problem resulted from a brine cavern being mined too close to a salt dome edege.

OK...so there they are not doing any fracking in that area. I would not think they wouldn't, as that would just cause the ground to be more porous.

That is the one and only thing that you say that I disagree with, It's been proved as that so people can vent in a direction, they have someone to be angry at. Go back to the first video of the last briefing not the one that has or is happening today. I know you probably do not believe a word Texas Brine says, but if they are right, wet shale melted the dome from the out side.