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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26169464 United States 10/25/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While it’s no ice-nine, a frozen form of methane trapped in ocean sediments could be cause for concern. Warm Gulf Stream waters off the east coast of North America are converting large amounts of the substance into methane gas, which could lead to underwater landslides and influence global climate. A good portion of the biological carbon on Earth is stored in the seafloor as methane hydrate, a frozen mixture of methane and water formed at high pressure and low temperature. Changes in the temperature or direction of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north from the Gulf of Mexico, have heated sediments in a strip along the North Atlantic seafloor by 8 degrees Celsius, unlocking 2.5 billion metric tons of methane from deep-sea caches, scientists report in the Oct. 25 Nature. This is the first study to suggest that methane hydrate melting is related to ocean currents themselves, says study coauthor Benjamin Phrampus, an Earth scientist at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. Previous studies suggested that the global ocean temperature would have to increase to cause hydrate breakdown, which would take a very huge input of energy, he says. “We don’t need this large amount of energy to explain this. It’s simply a change in the ocean currents.” [link to www.sciencenews.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26169464 United States 10/25/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Morning. That is a very interesting article. Quoting: allisaTX I was glad to hear Texas Brine yesterday in the briefing (Cartwright I believe is his name) state: the oil/gas in the sink hole "appears to be coming from a finite source" this is good news is it not? More truth w/in lies I'm afraid...sure the source is finite, isn't any fossil fuel or natural formation? How finite is the question, not finite enough to stop the calamity from occurring unfortunately would be an educated answer. The Methane Hydrate Layer spans most of the planet, as the viruses and bacteria continue to consume it the pressure under the bedrock will continue to build, the gas will make it's way into every crack and crevice it can find. I don't like being a defeatist however we need to look at this w/out rose-colored glasses in order to stay safe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14703458 United States 10/25/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems this is a common occurance... "-- A toxic cloud that formed after 300 gallons of hydrochloric acid leaked at a southeast Texas storage facility sent nine people to hospitals and forced thousands of residents indoors, an emergency management official said Thursday." [link to www.cnn.com] I could find no report why the rupture happened. Made me think of not making assumptions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26169464 United States 10/25/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems this is a common occurance... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14703458 "-- A toxic cloud that formed after 300 gallons of hydrochloric acid leaked at a southeast Texas storage facility sent nine people to hospitals and forced thousands of residents indoors, an emergency management official said Thursday." [link to www.cnn.com] I could find no report why the rupture happened. Made me think of not making assumptions. Nice find AC, thank you. |
AncientDust User ID: 25827622 United States 10/25/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread seems to be dying off Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26208170 interesting to see who's left role call?...lol dr Present Still here. I'm still here too but I signed up now. I think my old number was 1596? or 94? Been here since the start of this thread anyhoo! Glad to see it still going! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26169464 United States 10/25/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This just in... It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time. [link to enenews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4079433 United States 10/25/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This just in... Quoting: siniXster It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time. [link to enenews.com] This does not sound good at all!!! |
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wishiwas User ID: 19081353 United States 10/25/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This just in... Quoting: siniXster It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time. [link to enenews.com] That's not good. Justitiae soro Fides |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26169464 United States 10/25/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This just in... Quoting: siniXster It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time. [link to enenews.com] That's not good. Neither are the helicorder readings Marsute posted the link for above ^^^ A lot of action today, Anyone know if drilling was scheduled for today? Diggin the avatar :) |
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Marsute User ID: 14904696 United States 10/25/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "NEW ORLEANS (AP) — BP says it has capped and plugged an abandoned piece of equipment that is believed to be the source of a sheen spotted near the site of the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. The London-based oil giant said Thursday that it successfully placed a 750-pound cap over an 86-ton steel container that the company had deployed in a failed effort to contain the spill. BP also inserted plugs on the top and sides of the container. BP and the Coast Guard both say no oil has been seen leaking out of the container since it was capped and plugged. The sheen appeared on the surface of the Gulf in September. BP plans to monitor the sheen by satellite for several more days." They capped and plugged a container that had previously failed to contain the spill...and now they think it was going to work?? Why didn't they do that to begin with? I'm not believing their story. ~Marsute~ |
wishiwas User ID: 19081353 United States 10/25/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neither are the helicorder readings Marsute posted the link for above ^^^ Quoting: siniXster A lot of action today, Anyone know if drilling was scheduled for today? Diggin the avatar :) I saw them. But most of the movement is only during business hours, so I would attribute it to drilling, heavy machinery, etc. Still, its disconcerting. Thanks! Found this site when the sinkhole thread was started. Had to stay You guys are nuts. And I agree with most of it! Justitiae soro Fides |
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alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 10/26/2012 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confused now thought the oil sheen was due to old equipment left there. Now they have capped something to stop it. They should at least try to get one story together. Last Edited by alexisj9 on 10/26/2012 05:28 AM |
alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 10/26/2012 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome. Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated' Nicholas Mockford Last Edited by alexisj9 on 10/26/2012 05:33 AM |
Earth Cries User ID: 26332301 United States 10/26/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Louisiana Sinkhole Briefing: Essentially, the earth is fractured from the salt cavern all the way to surface — Crude oil coming up through fracture zone (VIDEO) [link to enenews.com] Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22813526 United States 10/26/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome. Quoting: alexisj9 Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated' Nicholas Mockford posted on the other thread, too [link to www.channelsailing.be] [link to www.apps2010shanghai.com] Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction Nicholas P. Mockford Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc. [link to en.wikipedia.org] maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows on the bigger picture in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control now with that said..... dr |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22813526 United States 10/26/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to get an idea of the attitude of the residents. How many are at those meetings? (can't view vids) How many have left and are "out of pocket? How many actual residences are next to, or within 2 lots of the sinkhole? reason being, It seems obvious the people are getting less input of actual answers, so maybe its time to "ramp it up" and get some pressure put on from somewhere. just brainstorming, not trying to butt into local affairs dr |
littlemiracles User ID: 8637765 United States 10/26/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From earthcries... Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne [link to www.examiner.com] Snip less than 50%: Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale. At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly. "Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained. The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22813526 United States 10/26/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From earthcries... Quoting: littlemiracles Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne [link to www.examiner.com] Snip less than 50%: Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale. At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly. "Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained. The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."... I have to ask, how do you early warning an EQ? predictive technology? yea, right that thing is probably more like the stupid "captain obvious" neighbor that runs out the door during the 6.5 level earthquake shouting "E..Q..!E..Q..!E..Q..!" and you are "really, wow, I didn't f'g notice" maybe just hook up an mp3 player to says "oh shit" and as the ground shakes more and more, the volumn goes up, and it says it faster...lol geeezzzz dr |
littlemiracles User ID: 8637765 United States 10/26/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From earthcries... Quoting: littlemiracles Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne [link to www.examiner.com] Snip less than 50%: Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale. At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly. "Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained. The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."... I have to ask, how do you early warning an EQ? predictive technology? yea, right that thing is probably more like the stupid "captain obvious" neighbor that runs out the door during the 6.5 level earthquake shouting "E..Q..!E..Q..!E..Q..!" and you are "really, wow, I didn't f'g notice" maybe just hook up an mp3 player to says "oh shit" and as the ground shakes more and more, the volumn goes up, and it says it faster...lol geeezzzz dr Maybe they really mean that they are going to link into Gab or El Q's EQ threads..... |