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Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.

 
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Still here.
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Been reading the new posts every day, thanks.
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Me too, and a lot of others I'm sure.
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Yes.hf
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They just called up ALL the guard
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They just called up ALL the guard
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Sorry if it's a stupid question : ALL the guards from where? The state?
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Is that National Guard?
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Non-event.
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been watching from the sidelines as of late. great work everyone! :-)
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BP caps dome believed to be source of oil sheen

[link to theadvocate.com]

hf
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Confused now thought the oil sheen was due to old equipment left there. Now they have capped something to stop it. They should at least try to get one story together.

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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

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Louisiana Sinkhole Briefing: Essentially, the earth is fractured from the salt cavern all the way to surface — Crude oil coming up through fracture zone (VIDEO)

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
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I would like to get an idea of the attitude of the residents.
How many are at those meetings?
(can't view vids)
How many have left and are "out of pocket?
How many actual residences are next to, or within 2 lots of the sinkhole?

reason being, It seems obvious the people are getting less input of actual answers, so maybe its time to "ramp it up" and get some pressure put on from somewhere.

just brainstorming, not trying to butt into local affairs

dr
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From earthcries...

Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne

[link to www.examiner.com]

Snip less than 50%:

Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale.

At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly.

"Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained.

The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."...
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From earthcries...

Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne

[link to www.examiner.com]

Snip less than 50%:

Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale.

At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly.

"Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained.

The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."...
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I have to ask, how do you early warning an EQ? predictive technology? yea, right
that thing is probably more like the stupid "captain obvious" neighbor that runs out the door during the 6.5 level earthquake shouting "E..Q..!E..Q..!E..Q..!" and you are "really, wow, I didn't f'g notice"

maybe just hook up an mp3 player to says "oh shit" and as the ground shakes more and more, the volumn goes up, and it says it faster...lol

geeezzzz

dr
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From earthcries...

Sinkhole quake jolts further than Bayou Corne

[link to www.examiner.com]

Snip less than 50%:

Odd earthquakes have been felt as far as 45 miles south of the sinkhole, as reported on Oct. 5 after a swarm occurred with the highest quake registering over 4 on the Richter scale.

At the meeting, officials said they were installing an early warning system that would detect earthquakes and other events. An official explained it would be more effective than the USGS monitors now in place, recording seismic activities that are occurring regularly.

"Devices looking for seismic activity will all be integrated to form another early warning-type of device," a Texas Brine spokesperson explained.

The new devices are what he said were very similar to what USGS already has in place but "a step above USGS as they will be embedded, underground, more permanent."...
 Quoting: littlemiracles


I have to ask, how do you early warning an EQ? predictive technology? yea, right
that thing is probably more like the stupid "captain obvious" neighbor that runs out the door during the 6.5 level earthquake shouting "E..Q..!E..Q..!E..Q..!" and you are "really, wow, I didn't f'g notice"

maybe just hook up an mp3 player to says "oh shit" and as the ground shakes more and more, the volumn goes up, and it says it faster...lol

geeezzzz

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526

Maybe they really mean that they are going to link into Gab or El Q's EQ threads.....chuckle
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They just called up ALL the guard
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Source and more information please.
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So people want to know what else, it's just a sinkhole right? Chew on this Folks and see where it leads you...

Look at the years and hundreds of thousands of miles of fracked earth under our feet on the CONUS. Look at the poisoning of the aquifers by the un-monitored use of toxic chemicals. Look at all the souls all over the country dying from cancer and neural disorders from those chemicals w/ no recourse for medical help or even a way out. Look at the government making all the land grabs on water sheds all over the country. Look at ppl being jailed for collecting rainwater on their own property. Look at all the Presidential Executive Orders that have been signed in the middle of the night, on Sundays, on holidays, in secret, giving our government the right to take over everything in your everyday life and the right to put you in an internment camp w/out rhyme or reason. Look at what is happening in LA and multiply that by the entire Eastern CONUS, Michigan down to FLA and the entire east coast.

They've poisoned (I haven't even brought nuclear waste into the mix yet) the entire water supply and destroyed the ground beneath our feet, they've turned into TOXIC SWISS CHEESE and it's all coming down.

THEY CONTROL THE [GMO] FOOD, THE WATER AND THE POPULATION LEVELS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND WAITING FOR THE BIG KABOOM AND THEIR HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER!!! OPEN YOUR EYES FOLKS!!!

Remember look at the big picture?

The WAR ON YOU is for WATER and WATER IS LIFE...your and your children's lives and guess what? There isn't going to be any unless you can purchase it from them. THIS IS COMING and time is up.

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable.

 Quoting: siniXster


From what I can tell a lot of posters here agree with what SiniXter has said. The research has been done (and continues) but it seems to me that it is now the time we should be preparing ourselves and our family for what is, unquestionably, truly "life changing" events.

My family has made preparations...we have a plan...we are aware that some may not survive or may have to be left behind. We have discussed whether we hunker down or flee. We have what we believe to be ample food, supplies and arms with plenty of ammo. Take care of yourselves and your family.
~Marsute~
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my guess is that the "earthquake" was a jolt from within
the "cavern" rock structure, meaning: collapse is imminent.
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526



Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.

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This just in...

It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time.

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: siniXster




That's not good.
 Quoting: wishiwas


Opposite direction they thought it would be moving. Thats more towards the salt dome center.
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dr,

Any thoughts on the effect if they pump a plasticizer into the wells? Its made to make things more fluid.

I could actually see them using this to make the extraction process easier and then just seperating it back out later.

Lots of possibilities here.
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526



Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

Just FYI here, the plasticizer found is used in hydraulic fracking, what does that tell you?
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"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

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Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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dr,

Any thoughts on the effect if they pump a plasticizer into the wells? Its made to make things more fluid.

I could actually see them using this to make the extraction process easier and then just seperating it back out later.

Lots of possibilities here.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

I'm leaning towards it's been there all along, we are going to find the same compound in the poisoned aquifers same as every other well poisoned by fracking.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Well who ever thought fracking was a good idea?
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526



Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

Just FYI here, the plasticizer found is used in hydraulic fracking, what does that tell you?
 Quoting: siniXster


But the oil is thermagenic oil with this fracking plasticizer in it? I'm confused now. One of the scientists seemed relieved yesterday that the source of oil was a limited source? But thermagenic implies oil from below the sea floor?

Did it sort of pick up the plasticizer from the fracking on the way up to the surface?

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Well who ever thought fracking was a good idea?
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For that matter who ever though storing anything in a salt dome other than salt was a good idea?????

Maybe even salt was not a good idea.
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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That link was posted 10/24... Pg 206..
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?

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