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Snoopy Dawg back again. You gettin' the big pic now??

Many of us Dawgs have been gatherers, in life some are hunters. We're gatherers. East Texas is a trusted friend of the Dawgs. The pound is nationwide. This normal guy was tasked with an abnormal charge because of TRUST. Rare quality nowadays lemme tell ya.

East Texas paid attention to all the barking. Truth be told not even all the Dawgs knew the big picture, East Texas figured it out.

This is the reason for sporadic periods of info. The rest of the Dawgs had to discuss and come to an agreement. Fact is the pieces were laid out and the one piece no one could figure out (think synthia and/or fungus) ...well East Texas got it.

And he warned you but never until he was sure.

Y'all owe him a debt of gratitude. He won't see this and can't but it don't matter the Dawgs know it.

That said hopefully the next couple days will get real interesting. Some sorry motherfuckers who deserve to go down hopefully will.
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bumps
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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where the fuck is kindra arneson?
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she probably ran off with some truck driver.
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Getting ready to sign out for the day but wanted to post a bit more of what I found first. If someone has the time to look further into this, great but if not I will try to pick it back up in the morning.

Found a link to New Orleans with the genome mapping here...
[link to www.aspergillusflavus.org]

The USDA/ARS/SRRC in New Orleans, Louisiana provided its Expressed Sequence Tag (EST) genomic database for A. flavus as a matching resource towards the complete genomic characterization of A. flavus..

What they cause/or are being mapped out for: [link to www.genome.gov]

Aspergillus flavus Source of aflatoxin in food stuffs and cause of human aspergillosis

Aspergillus nidulans Key model system for study of genetics and cell biology

Aspergillus terreus Major source of lovastatin
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where the fuck is kindra arneson?
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she probably ran off with some truck driver.
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laugh
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this is a link to the contaminated medicines/vaccines..

[link to www.fda.gov]

There is also a DRACO vaccine...developed at MIT...I think I would stay away from any and all vaccines...especially this one called DRACO....

[link to blogs.terrapinn.com]
 Quoting: breezy


Shit, talk about synchronicity. I was just looking the thread about winter storms with name of gods. I saw "Draco" in the list of the names and the word caught my eye...
Nus
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Just in case no one knows this, steroids often lower immunity ALOT and at the same time will often mask an infection making it harder to know when someone is actually sick.

Looks like the incubation period on this type of meningitis is 2-28 days.
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Yes, thanks AC. Which also means we will not see true numbers for a while yet. Scary!
 Quoting: SkinnyChic


I guess I'm not seeing the connection between the gulf catastrophe and the fungus...maybe just because I don't want to. So are some suggesting that the fungus is coming up in the gas bubbles???
 Quoting: Fire Watch


The connection is: David Venter, who created Synthia in the lab, an artifical bacteria that eats oil, also has been doing research on Aspergillus, the organisms causing the menigitis deaths.
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Someone sent me this message today with a thumbs down, whatever that means.

10/6/2012 A few days ago, you told everyone to check your IP addy and it would show Bayou Corne---Now You say Morgan City 20+ miles away----WTF??? did you slip there SHILL

No, I didn't slip. My Internet service is Allens TV cable, in Morgan City. Look it up.

When I posted that anyone looking at my IP would show I was in Bayou Corne, I didn't think about how it might show the Internet Providers address, and not exactly where I am.

Either way, OMG.....Morgan City is 20 miles down Hwy 70 by road, and probably half that as the crow flies....LOL.
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this is a link to the contaminated medicines/vaccines..

[link to www.fda.gov]

There is also a DRACO vaccine...developed at MIT...I think I would stay away from any and all vaccines...especially this one called DRACO....

[link to blogs.terrapinn.com]
 Quoting: breezy


Shit, talk about synchronicity. I was just looking the thread about winter storms with name of gods. I saw "Draco" in the list of the names and the word caught my eye...
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Draco is the demon son of Gaia (Earth).
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Just in case no one knows this, steroids often lower immunity ALOT and at the same time will often mask an infection making it harder to know when someone is actually sick.

Looks like the incubation period on this type of meningitis is 2-28 days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18987435


Yes, thanks AC. Which also means we will not see true numbers for a while yet. Scary!
 Quoting: SkinnyChic


I guess I'm not seeing the connection between the gulf catastrophe and the fungus...maybe just because I don't want to. So are some suggesting that the fungus is coming up in the gas bubbles???
 Quoting: Fire Watch


The connection is: David Venter, who created Synthia in the lab, an artifical bacteria that eats oil, also has been doing research on Aspergillus, the organisms causing the menigitis deaths.
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring


and, what about my fungus toenails?
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But it not a failed salt dome. It is a failed brine cavern. I see people using these terms interchageably, and they are not. They are 2 separate things. Caverns have failed before. We had cavern failure in 2003, Christmas day. People were not even given time to pick up presents under their trees. Nothing but slabs were an entire community used to be. This is a failed cavern again, and all of this could have been possibly prevented if the failure had been followed up on. It wasn't. A salt dome failure would indeed be catastrophic, but that hasn't happened. All near pipelines have been emptied and closed. The butane and gas caverns are being moved. The free underground gas is the problem, and that may never get resolved, but I can't see it being a manipulational thing.
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I would like to agree with you and say its just an isolated failed salt cavern within the dome...but that doesnt make sense. The theory behind this is that Texas Brine attempted to drill in the layer above the salt dome...during this drilling it was suspected that they pierced the wall of the dome/cavern causing the cavern to lose pressure and fail...
but there is one big hole in this theory.
It has been confirmed that the cavern has failed in the BOTTOM area....ie not at the top where the drilling was....Texas Brine is a convenient scapegoat...yes...it also gives the idea that just 'one cavern' has failed...but if that is truly the case why has the cavern been breached by hydrocarbons at the BOTTOM as has already been confirmed??? ( they also confirmed that the dome was not breached in its top two third at all...)

Forgive me for not finding time to link the appropriate findings to this post but can assure you that it is fact that they stated the hydrocarbon has breached the bottom...which implicates that the dome itself HAS failed or at least its outer wall far far underground...
 Quoting: taniatarn


You're thinking right, except no one, not even Texas Brine said that they drilled through the salt wall. What Texas brine said, was that they feared the wall of salt between the cavern and the earth was breeched. That simply means that they mined to close to the edge of the dome,and that could indeed have been at the bottom. Here is the letters from TB describing the breech, and notice, nowhere do they say they drilled a breech. Just that one occurred.

[link to theadvocate.com]

The scientific theory group in our first public meeting explained this; mining to close to the edge of the dome and breeching as a possiblility. Texas Brine was directly asked how close the cavern was to the dome edge,and they flat out said they had no idea. I heard them say it myself, but I know I've seen it documented as well.
 Quoting: Patassa


In early September 2010, Texas Brine began reworking the cavern well, milling a section of salt higher than the existing cavern roof, at 3,400 feet deep, to see if the upper strata could be mined. A DNR permit for that work was issued in May 2010.

Ball explained Wednesday that officials believe that area, which extended for about 100 feet through the well casing above the cavern roof, may be the source of the possible salt dome wall breach.

[link to theadvocate.com]

This article was posted 13th august...it clearly states they believe the breach is where they drilled...but since then it has been confirmed that hydrocarbons have breached the bottom of the cavern...

[link to enenews.com]

So what caused hydrocarbons to breach the bottom of the cavern??? Obviously the dome itself has failed....at the bottom....if the dome itself hadn't failed the hydrocarbons wouldnt be there.

"Preliminary findings through sonar testing provide information that the top two thirds of the cavern are in tact."

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

And the next question...if something has eroded away at this cavern...to allow oil in...well that something has cme from outside or another cavern ( which has been excluded )...so whether it came from underneath or the side who knows how many other caverns have been eaten in to or under???
Interested observer of all things interesting!

Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand.
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this is a link to the contaminated medicines/vaccines..

[link to www.fda.gov]

There is also a DRACO vaccine...developed at MIT...I think I would stay away from any and all vaccines...especially this one called DRACO....

[link to blogs.terrapinn.com]
 Quoting: breezy


Agreed. vaccines are horrible. But I just want to make sure everyone is getting the bigger picture. People are being contaminated by the water and the air due to all the shit these evil bastards have contaminated the gulf with. Now can everyone see how it is all connected? multiple scenarios at play here...further collapse/ more sinkholes, importance of tremors and earthquakes, possible explosion due to toxins in sinkhole but also what is stored around there...(and of course locations of nuclear plants), where the contamination may be spreading underground, and don't forget weather which can lift that shit up and spread it even farther! On top of all that let's take a look at what the news is not reporting and instead look at what TPTB are preparing for! Sorry, I'm sure I've left things out but I'm trying to focus on the message and not the details. For details you have to go through the thread. hf
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Snoopy Dawg back again. You gettin' the big pic now??

Many of us Dawgs have been gatherers, in life some are hunters. We're gatherers. East Texas is a trusted friend of the Dawgs. The pound is nationwide. This normal guy was tasked with an abnormal charge because of TRUST. Rare quality nowadays lemme tell ya.

East Texas paid attention to all the barking. Truth be told not even all the Dawgs knew the big picture, East Texas figured it out.

This is the reason for sporadic periods of info. The rest of the Dawgs had to discuss and come to an agreement. Fact is the pieces were laid out and the one piece no one could figure out (think synthia and/or fungus) ...well East Texas got it.

And he warned you but never until he was sure.

Y'all owe him a debt of gratitude. He won't see this and can't but it don't matter the Dawgs know it.That said hopefully the next couple days will get real interesting. Some sorry motherfuckers who deserve to go down hopefully will.
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Why wouldn't he be able to see it. Seems if his wife can monitor this site, then he should be able to. Especially since they "let him go" after he assured me being caught would mean severe consquences. I am still having trouble believing they let him go that fast. wow.
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Hello.. I am new and trying to decipher all this. I think I have a loose grip on it.

I am wondering how the colder weather may effect this situation?

Thanks
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I don't see where the cooler weather will have any positive or negative effect on the situation in Assumption AW, however any hurricane in the area could have a devastating effect and for the first time that I'm aware we are now having named wintercanes...could be something, could be nothing at all but worth mentioning.

Thank you Sini.. I was buying into the New Madrid thing.. posted a dream a well known pastor had a few years ago about an earthquake on the NM on a similar thread yesterday.

I was wondering If.. that is a legit scenerio .. if the colder weather more north could play a role.

Thank you again for taking the time to address my question.
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You're very welcome AW...I should say weather, although I follow it closely, is not my area of expertise.

Anyone else wanna chime in here???


what will colder weather do?
decrease evaporation rates
increase gas density, possibly making it "hug the ground" more
freezing temps will cause the ground to heave when it temp drops enough to start working into the ground

good/bad not enough info to call

dr
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From SETX here, I had to get a meningitis vaccination in order to register for a semester at my local college. I DID NOT WANT IT, and they wouldn't let me register for my classes unless I got it..
I got it, I even tried to give them a religious spill saying it was against my beliefs... Morally they were. I got this shot in June of this year. One month later, a co worker of mine ended up getting something called HFMD.. Related to meningitis somehow when I was researching it. I asked if he got the vaccine and he said no. However, a week later I ended up getting the same exact disease ! It was terrible... It was like the flu combined with chicken pox.
I'm 23 and an extremely fit and healthy individual, but this virus brought me to my knees. The ONLY thing a could link it to was the vaccine one month prior. Since then there has only been less than a handful of people that have gotten it where I work at (all clientele, not employees)

Makes me mad at myself for many reasons
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So you got a vaccine shot and your co-worker did not get a vaccine shot, and then you both got this flu-like disease,
which proves the disease was not caused by the shot.
But that is all you could link it to; you couldn't link it to your co-worker's contagion, even after other people got it who apparently weren't students who also got the vaccine.

This was for college, did you say? Take an Intro to Critical Thinking or a Logic course; you will do better in your other classes and also avoid contributing to unfounded rumors.
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Snoopy Dawg back again. You gettin' the big pic now??

Many of us Dawgs have been gatherers, in life some are hunters. We're gatherers. East Texas is a trusted friend of the Dawgs. The pound is nationwide. This normal guy was tasked with an abnormal charge because of TRUST. Rare quality nowadays lemme tell ya.

East Texas paid attention to all the barking. Truth be told not even all the Dawgs knew the big picture, East Texas figured it out.

This is the reason for sporadic periods of info. The rest of the Dawgs had to discuss and come to an agreement. Fact is the pieces were laid out and the one piece no one could figure out (think synthia and/or fungus) ...well East Texas got it.

And he warned you but never until he was sure.

Y'all owe him a debt of gratitude. He won't see this and can't but it don't matter the Dawgs know it.That said hopefully the next couple days will get real interesting. Some sorry motherfuckers who deserve to go down hopefully will.
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Why wouldn't he be able to see it. Seems if his wife can monitor this site, then he should be able to. Especially since they "let him go" after he assured me being caught would mean severe consquences. I am still having trouble believing they let him go that fast. wow.
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Don't focus on the messengers.

Focus on the message, which is being offered here by multiple sources.
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I also remember reading somewhere about the process of Crosstex moving butane from one cavern to another being underway.. then for some reason it was stopped and they began to take it back out of the cavern where they had started to move it??

I will see if I can find out where I read that...but have to dash for now so will have a look later...it made me suspicious at the time that they definitely do believe the whole dome is at risk.
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you mean athletes foot is a bio weapon? now it all makes sense. my brother's sock filled a balloon with this synthia

ahhh
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But it not a failed salt dome. It is a failed brine cavern. I see people using these terms interchageably, and they are not. They are 2 separate things. Caverns have failed before. We had cavern failure in 2003, Christmas day. People were not even given time to pick up presents under their trees. Nothing but slabs were an entire community used to be. This is a failed cavern again, and all of this could have been possibly prevented if the failure had been followed up on. It wasn't. A salt dome failure would indeed be catastrophic, but that hasn't happened. All near pipelines have been emptied and closed. The butane and gas caverns are being moved. The free underground gas is the problem, and that may never get resolved, but I can't see it being a manipulational thing.
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I would like to agree with you and say its just an isolated failed salt cavern within the dome...but that doesnt make sense. The theory behind this is that Texas Brine attempted to drill in the layer above the salt dome...during this drilling it was suspected that they pierced the wall of the dome/cavern causing the cavern to lose pressure and fail...
but there is one big hole in this theory.
It has been confirmed that the cavern has failed in the BOTTOM area....ie not at the top where the drilling was....Texas Brine is a convenient scapegoat...yes...it also gives the idea that just 'one cavern' has failed...but if that is truly the case why has the cavern been breached by hydrocarbons at the BOTTOM as has already been confirmed??? ( they also confirmed that the dome was not breached in its top two third at all...)

Forgive me for not finding time to link the appropriate findings to this post but can assure you that it is fact that they stated the hydrocarbon has breached the bottom...which implicates that the dome itself HAS failed or at least its outer wall far far underground...
 Quoting: taniatarn


You're thinking right, except no one, not even Texas Brine said that they drilled through the salt wall. What Texas brine said, was that they feared the wall of salt between the cavern and the earth was breeched. That simply means that they mined to close to the edge of the dome,and that could indeed have been at the bottom. Here is the letters from TB describing the breech, and notice, nowhere do they say they drilled a breech. Just that one occurred.

[link to theadvocate.com]

The scientific theory group in our first public meeting explained this; mining to close to the edge of the dome and breeching as a possiblility. Texas Brine was directly asked how close the cavern was to the dome edge,and they flat out said they had no idea. I heard them say it myself, but I know I've seen it documented as well.
 Quoting: Patassa


In early September 2010, Texas Brine began reworking the cavern well, milling a section of salt higher than the existing cavern roof, at 3,400 feet deep, to see if the upper strata could be mined. A DNR permit for that work was issued in May 2010.

Ball explained Wednesday that officials believe that area, which extended for about 100 feet through the well casing above the cavern roof, may be the source of the possible salt dome wall breach.

[link to theadvocate.com]

This article was posted 13th august...it clearly states they believe the breach is where they drilled...but since then it has been confirmed that hydrocarbons have breached the bottom of the cavern...

[link to enenews.com]

So what caused hydrocarbons to breach the bottom of the cavern??? Obviously the dome itself has failed....at the bottom....if the dome itself hadn't failed the hydrocarbons wouldnt be there.

"Preliminary findings through sonar testing provide information that the top two thirds of the cavern are in tact."

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

And the next question...if something has eroded away at this cavern...to allow oil in...well that something has cme from outside or another cavern ( which has been excluded )...so whether it came from underneath or the side who knows how many other caverns have been eaten in to or under???
 Quoting: taniatarn




Your article supports what both of us has said.


An examination of DNR records, interviews, public statements and public meetings established the following:

The possibly failed salt cavern may be closer to the outer wall of the Napoleonville Dome than Texas Brine officials believed.
•DNR defended the timing of its disclosures about the history surrounding the salt cavern as matching the emerging facts of the incidents in Bayou Corne.
•Sonny Cranch, Texas Brine spokesman, said company officials have been as surprised as anyone about a possible collapse of their salt cavern.
•DNR officials allowed Texas Brine to deposit naturally-occurring radioactive material arising from drilling into two company salt caverns, including the one that may have breached in the Bayou Corne area. As of Wednesday, state environmental officials had not tested the sinkhole for radioactivity.
In a Jan. 21, 2011, letter, Mark J. Cartwright, Texas Brine Co. Saltville LLC president, informed DNR about a failed integrity test of the cavern and company officials’ subsequent suspicion that the cavern may have breached the Napoleonville Dome’s outer wall, possibly explaining a loss of pressure in the cavern during the test. (Read letter.)

“One obvious concern is the cavern’s proximity to the edge of salt,” Cartwright wrote to DNR’s Joseph “Joe” S. Ball Jr. “There have been several studies in this regard, and Texas Brine has mapped the salt boundary near the cavern applying available well log data, seismic data, and most recently, vertical seismic data gathered during the workover. At this time, a breach out of the salt dome appears possible.”


The link I posted, of the letter from Texas Brine, nowhere says anything about drilling causing a breech. That was Balls guess. We haven't seen hide nor hair of him once the attempt to keep that breech covered up, was discovered.
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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ok big dawg, jersey john is launching 67 aircraft carriers to your rescue. hang in there dawg, radchick is dropping a Deagle.
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I also remember reading somewhere about the process of Crosstex moving butane from one cavern to another being underway.. then for some reason it was stopped and they began to take it back out of the cavern where they had started to move it??

I will see if I can find out where I read that...but have to dash for now so will have a look later...it made me suspicious at the time that they definitely do believe the whole dome is at risk.
 Quoting: taniatarn


They have been and still are moving it out. Chevron is also moving theirs out.

"abundance of caution" is what we keep hearing. Obviously all that gas poses a threat to the dome IF it blows. How could it not?
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Look, this hurricane isaac thing the guy just said above sounded far off, but maybe he is on to something!
After passing through LA and Mississippi it reached TN, where you have "Tennessee: 29 cases, including 3 deaths".
The pattern of the states with diseases on the map is interesting too..

Maybe it's crazy, but who knows..

[link to www.cdc.gov]
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Chit, I'm in tn.....
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Look, this hurricane isaac thing the guy just said above sounded far off, but maybe he is on to something!
After passing through LA and Mississippi it reached TN, where you have "Tennessee: 29 cases, including 3 deaths".
The pattern of the states with diseases on the map is interesting too..

Maybe it's crazy, but who knows..

[link to www.cdc.gov]
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Chit, I'm in tn.....
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try athletes foot spray
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Someone sent me this message today with a thumbs down, whatever that means.

10/6/2012 A few days ago, you told everyone to check your IP addy and it would show Bayou Corne---Now You say Morgan City 20+ miles away----WTF??? did you slip there SHILL

No, I didn't slip. My Internet service is Allens TV cable, in Morgan City. Look it up.

When I posted that anyone looking at my IP would show I was in Bayou Corne, I didn't think about how it might show the Internet Providers address, and not exactly where I am.

Either way, OMG.....Morgan City is 20 miles down Hwy 70 by road, and probably half that as the crow flies....LOL.
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Haters gonna hate. Don't give them the attention.
You seem to be here to uncover the truth just like the rest of us.
So you are o.k. in my book. :)
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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Scrappy Doo back again quickly people, I can't believe they're already using East Texas's computer. Never underestimate the stupidity of those who truly believe they're SUPERIOR to you and me.

This has been said before but this is a standing advisement to those of you we've been trying to inform, DO NOT trust the East Texas poster/internet addy anymore. He's in custody.
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Thank you Scrappy Doo
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I am Scrappy Doo, check post times and IP addy's these bastards are at it again. But it is true that they have East Texas, and access to his computer. He knew this was a risk, please pray for him. By the way both the original OP (who is Top Dawg) and the wife of East Texas are monitoring this site. She also was aware of the risks and I know she is so proud of the man you all know as East Texas, who the Dawg Pound loves and respects so much more even now. Stay safe and vigilant folks and at this point it's best to trust your gut when something is posted from now on. We knew this might happen.
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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Scrappy Doo back again quickly people, I can't believe they're already using East Texas's computer. Never underestimate the stupidity of those who truly believe they're SUPERIOR to you and me.

This has been said before but this is a standing advisement to those of you we've been trying to inform, DO NOT trust the East Texas poster/internet addy anymore. He's in custody.
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Thank you Scrappy Doo
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I am Scrappy Doo, check post times and IP addy's these bastards are at it again. But it is true that they have East Texas, and access to his computer. He knew this was a risk, please pray for him. By the way both the original OP (who is Top Dawg) and the wife of East Texas are monitoring this site. She also was aware of the risks and I know she is so proud of the man you all know as East Texas, who the Dawg Pound loves and respects so much more even now. Stay safe and vigilant folks and at this point it's best to trust your gut when something is posted from now on. We knew this might happen.
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.
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Don't focus on the messenger. You have no way of knowing who's legit or not.

Rather, focus on the message only.
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Someone sent me this message today with a thumbs down, whatever that means.

10/6/2012 A few days ago, you told everyone to check your IP addy and it would show Bayou Corne---Now You say Morgan City 20+ miles away----WTF??? did you slip there SHILL

No, I didn't slip. My Internet service is Allens TV cable, in Morgan City. Look it up.

When I posted that anyone looking at my IP would show I was in Bayou Corne, I didn't think about how it might show the Internet Providers address, and not exactly where I am.

Either way, OMG.....Morgan City is 20 miles down Hwy 70 by road, and probably half that as the crow flies....LOL.
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Haters gonna hate. Don't give them the attention.
You seem to be here to uncover the truth just like the rest of us.
So you are o.k. in my book. :)
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Thanks. I appreciate hearing that. And I do plan on getting the paper tomorrow and doing what frrredddy suggested. I assume I can post a picture?
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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...

Thank you Scrappy Doo
 Quoting: siniXster


I am Scrappy Doo, check post times and IP addy's these bastards are at it again. But it is true that they have East Texas, and access to his computer. He knew this was a risk, please pray for him. By the way both the original OP (who is Top Dawg) and the wife of East Texas are monitoring this site. She also was aware of the risks and I know she is so proud of the man you all know as East Texas, who the Dawg Pound loves and respects so much more even now. Stay safe and vigilant folks and at this point it's best to trust your gut when something is posted from now on. We knew this might happen.
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.
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Don't focus on the messenger. You have no way of knowing who's legit or not.

Rather, focus on the message only.
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Trying, but if one doesn't know who is legit, then how does one know what message to take serious?
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I would like to agree with you and say its just an isolated failed salt cavern within the dome...but that doesnt make sense. The theory behind this is that Texas Brine attempted to drill in the layer above the salt dome...during this drilling it was suspected that they pierced the wall of the dome/cavern causing the cavern to lose pressure and fail...
but there is one big hole in this theory.
It has been confirmed that the cavern has failed in the BOTTOM area....ie not at the top where the drilling was....Texas Brine is a convenient scapegoat...yes...it also gives the idea that just 'one cavern' has failed...but if that is truly the case why has the cavern been breached by hydrocarbons at the BOTTOM as has already been confirmed??? ( they also confirmed that the dome was not breached in its top two third at all...)

Forgive me for not finding time to link the appropriate findings to this post but can assure you that it is fact that they stated the hydrocarbon has breached the bottom...which implicates that the dome itself HAS failed or at least its outer wall far far underground...
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You're thinking right, except no one, not even Texas Brine said that they drilled through the salt wall. What Texas brine said, was that they feared the wall of salt between the cavern and the earth was breeched. That simply means that they mined to close to the edge of the dome,and that could indeed have been at the bottom. Here is the letters from TB describing the breech, and notice, nowhere do they say they drilled a breech. Just that one occurred.

[link to theadvocate.com]

The scientific theory group in our first public meeting explained this; mining to close to the edge of the dome and breeching as a possiblility. Texas Brine was directly asked how close the cavern was to the dome edge,and they flat out said they had no idea. I heard them say it myself, but I know I've seen it documented as well.
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In early September 2010, Texas Brine began reworking the cavern well, milling a section of salt higher than the existing cavern roof, at 3,400 feet deep, to see if the upper strata could be mined. A DNR permit for that work was issued in May 2010.

Ball explained Wednesday that officials believe that area, which extended for about 100 feet through the well casing above the cavern roof, may be the source of the possible salt dome wall breach.

[link to theadvocate.com]

This article was posted 13th august...it clearly states they believe the breach is where they drilled...but since then it has been confirmed that hydrocarbons have breached the bottom of the cavern...

[link to enenews.com]

So what caused hydrocarbons to breach the bottom of the cavern??? Obviously the dome itself has failed....at the bottom....if the dome itself hadn't failed the hydrocarbons wouldnt be there.

"Preliminary findings through sonar testing provide information that the top two thirds of the cavern are in tact."

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

And the next question...if something has eroded away at this cavern...to allow oil in...well that something has cme from outside or another cavern ( which has been excluded )...so whether it came from underneath or the side who knows how many other caverns have been eaten in to or under???
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Your article supports what both of us has said.


An examination of DNR records, interviews, public statements and public meetings established the following:

The possibly failed salt cavern may be closer to the outer wall of the Napoleonville Dome than Texas Brine officials believed.
•DNR defended the timing of its disclosures about the history surrounding the salt cavern as matching the emerging facts of the incidents in Bayou Corne.
•Sonny Cranch, Texas Brine spokesman, said company officials have been as surprised as anyone about a possible collapse of their salt cavern.
•DNR officials allowed Texas Brine to deposit naturally-occurring radioactive material arising from drilling into two company salt caverns, including the one that may have breached in the Bayou Corne area. As of Wednesday, state environmental officials had not tested the sinkhole for radioactivity.
In a Jan. 21, 2011, letter, Mark J. Cartwright, Texas Brine Co. Saltville LLC president, informed DNR about a failed integrity test of the cavern and company officials’ subsequent suspicion that the cavern may have breached the Napoleonville Dome’s outer wall, possibly explaining a loss of pressure in the cavern during the test. (Read letter.)

“One obvious concern is the cavern’s proximity to the edge of salt,” Cartwright wrote to DNR’s Joseph “Joe” S. Ball Jr. “There have been several studies in this regard, and Texas Brine has mapped the salt boundary near the cavern applying available well log data, seismic data, and most recently, vertical seismic data gathered during the workover. At this time, a breach out of the salt dome appears possible.”


The link I posted, of the letter from Texas Brine, nowhere says anything about drilling causing a breech. That was Balls guess. We haven't seen hide nor hair of him once the attempt to keep that breech covered up, was discovered.
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The fact that the top two thirds are in tact also puts paid to the tremors being caused in any way by the roof falling in or falling debris of any nature...so what caused the tremors to start...? Why did the cavern get breached? And why are the tremors still continuing and spreading...?
Something is undermining the whole area....almost like a beast eating away at the earth. Maybe the bacteria mutated so much that the oil has become a living beast out to consume everything...
Interested observer of all things interesting!

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Really interesting video on Dr. Venter..


During his medical training he excelled in research and was quick to realise the importance of decoding genes. In 1992 he set up the private Institute for Genomic Research. Then a mere three years later he stunned the scientific establishment by revealing the first complete genome of a free-living organism that causes childhood ear infections and meningitis.


He's a billionaire? Where did all his money come from?

I have to wonder whose ego is larger.. his or BHO?

Man o Man .. that guy is scary!!

Ok they both are.. The Dr. definitely makes BHO look like a punk!!
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

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