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Could someone please tell me on which page the synopsis appeared? thanks in advance.
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thinking pg 53 but could be wrong ...I haven't checked lately!
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that is from samples taken almost 3 weeks ago, on 9/18/12.

good thing they rushed that! hate to see what it is today
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Exactly! I hope this helps the people thinking it's safe to stay cause they wouldn't put the citizens or their employees in harms way! If I lived near there I swear I would put a gas mask on and start posting signs telling people they need to get out of there.
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Update on East Texas, people. Pay attention.

East Texas has been released and as of now has not been charged. The manner in which .... ahem .... we have 'posited theories' and encouraged discussion and nudged in directions makes it difficult to prove anything other than 'nothing'. He is with his family but is being monitored. This might be why it was easier to regain control of his IP - we, and they know he won't be posting anymore.

The direction 'we' have all been moving is one that has been carefully crafted and massaged.

But as you have all discovered, it has been 'strangely' accurate.

Now that is interesting isn't it.

In short you guys are amazing and keep up the good work. The Pound has been in discussions and have decided that there is little else we can do or say, or risk a severe exposure. East Texas found this out and while he's been instrumental, he was in the bottom half of the 'need to know'. But that doesn't make him any less important and we honor him.

Keep at it, you've been given all the clues you 'need' to figure this out and you've done exceptional work so far.

I'm not saying who I am but I know East Texas, at least through this AND OTHER crises. But one might assume I listen to FM 106.1 out of Beaumont, Texas.

Keep it real folks. Thanks for any prayers and all the help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25087887


Snoopy Dawg back again. You gettin' the big pic now??

Many of us Dawgs have been gatherers, in life some are hunters. We're gatherers. East Texas is a trusted friend of the Dawgs. The pound is nationwide. This normal guy was tasked with an abnormal charge because of TRUST. Rare quality nowadays lemme tell ya.

East Texas paid attention to all the barking. Truth be told not even all the Dawgs knew the big picture, East Texas figured it out.

This is the reason for sporadic periods of info. The rest of the Dawgs had to discuss and come to an agreement. Fact is the pieces were laid out and the one piece no one could figure out (think synthia and/or fungus) ...well East Texas got it.

And he warned you but never until he was sure.

Y'all owe him a debt of gratitude. He won't see this and can't but it don't matter the Dawgs know it.

That said hopefully the next couple days will get real interesting. Some sorry motherfuckers who deserve to go down hopefully will.
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[link to www.bigdog106.com]

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WARNING: NORTHCOMM "Mission Assumption" / FALSE FLAG ATTACK Roll Out ENGAGED


[link to www.youtube.com]

Don't make Assumptions..............
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Thanks Little Fish! hf
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East Texas again. Check my AC number and previous posts. That should say enough. Also.....get ready for a wall of text. We are going to have a "textual relationship", if you will.

For the record, I don't think JASTO is a shill, but I don't think he has inside info either, I was referring to the previous post calling themselves "East Texas". That was not "me". Again, check the AC numbers. But the other "East Texas" said something about Jaws being right about the land sinking, and THAT is, in fact, true. We'll cover that below.

Rather than give a synopsis of 'Day One' up to now, that doesn't really help since we're going over old data. What we're going to talk about is basically where we are NOW, what the real issues are, and where we're going.

So here goes.

The sinkhole is getting bigger, which we know. Original OP and the various Dawgs have confirmed this BEFORE offical confirmation came. We can all agree on this point.

Not sure about how this affects the Butane-filled salt dome but it's obvious the sinkhole is getting bigger and eventually WILL. There are other issues with what may or may not be in that hole, we'll come back to that later.

The problem right now is not that the sinkhole is getting bigger, and oddly enough, NOT that it will probably compromise the Butane dome. There is a vortex (albeit slow at this point) that can only be caused by a constant flow of water into - and OUT OF - the sinkhole.

Here is the REAL PROBLEM. Where is that water coming from, and where is it going?

The BP Macondo incident is directly related. That pressure simply doesn't go away. As the pressures internally were disturbed and high rates, the substructures of the ground were also disturbed. As the high-pressure gas (from decaying methane hydrates) seeks a path of least resistance, water from the seabed is forced into these 'gas channels' where it can find the least resistance.

How does water get into 'high pressure gas pockets'? Not all of the gas reservoir is a constant pressure and size. A smaller cavern, off the main cavern, with a size-restricted flow into/out of that cavern can actually be at a LOWER PRESSURE than the main cavity. Think of this in the same way you would use a pressure regulator on a BBQ gas grille. Restrict the flow on the high side, and control at lower pressure on the low side.

In this way, water pressure from the compromised sea floor gets into these gas pockets where there is lower pressure for the water to enter the gas channels.

ALL of these gas structures, to one extent or another, are connected.

So to simplify (as I have understood it), the sinkhole/vortex was created by saltwater (conveniently disguised as BRINE) entering a pocket of gas from a source far, far away. And it takes time, like I don't know, two years or so since the BP incident?

So we know where the water is coming from. What we DON'T know is where the salt water is going, although the damaged water aquifers suggests that the water and gas pressure is moving northward/northeast, towards the Mississipi river, which makes sense since that entire river system is basically an ancient fault zone. Meaning there are compromised soil areas all through that area.

If the Butane dome is ruptured, it very well could be a catastrophic explosive event, certainly for the local area within a radius of 35 miles or so. The previous posts saying that 'he could never go home' is true. You pretty much better write off that area ever being habitable again.

The WORSE part of this is that if there is an abrubt explosive event, this will do two things: create enormous back-pressure throughout the rift to (1) the still-damaged BP Macondo seafloor, and (2) the Mississippi river "New Madrid" fault system.

You're seeing the big picture now.

This is where the "other East Texas" got some things right in regards to FEMA preps, etc. but I don't know what that poster was talking about in regards to Chinese troops and all that crap. But it's obvious that FEMA has been preparing for SOMETHING.

So this is what's happened by educated conjecture, and what the fears are of what's coming. But there are other concerns. Apparently there is some truth to part of the "Bezerk" thread regarding biomatter used to control the oil. This is a major concern because apparently traces of biomatter have been detected at the sinkhole site, which means that no one is sure if this was expected or not. Add to this the belief that there are, in fact, both nuclear waste AND possible deadly munitions dumps in not only this dome, but others in that area. And if the Butane dome ruptures, expect ALL of the domes in that area to rupture.

In other words, this is literally uncharted doom territory on a global scale.

It's hard not to hear when the Dawgs are barking.

Stay safe.
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Could someone please tell me on which page the synopsis appeared? thanks in advance.
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thinking pg 53 but could be wrong ...I haven't checked lately!
 Quoting: Paa Tal


Sorry, I was way off. It was on pg 84! Reposted it above for you!
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Interesting map of the "Zombie outbreak".


Copied from the video info.
During the summer of 2011, the famous BP oil spill was currently "uncontrollable" and continued for over 70 days creating a disaster in the Gulf.
BP is partnered with Synthetic Genomes, a company that created the Synthetic self replicating microbes that have been released in the gulf to consume methane and the oil composites. These Microbes are known as Synthia, quite possibly the most dangerous synthetic virus we have ever seen. It is designed to eat carbon and so far what it has been doing for over the past year, But what happens when Synthia comes into contact with a living being or human? With the Hurricane and tropical storms blowing the infected waters of the gulf on shore and onto the people who inhabit this region they are becoming infected, there is an incubation period of up to 1 year depending upon the virus and the person. Currently now you can research the rising cases of incurable flesh eating bacteria that is sweeping the south, especially Georgia. Some of the researchers who helped design Synthia were going to blow the whistle on this operation, here is a link to the list of Dead or imprisoned whistleblower's: [link to bpwhistleblowers.blogspot.com]
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Finally - the names of the funding agencies/entities for the development of DRACO, per the MIT web site announcing DRACO.

[link to www.ll.mit.edu]

This work is funded by a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the New England Regional Center of Excellence for Biodefense and Emerging Infectious Diseases, with previous funding from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and Director of Defense Research & Engineering (now the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering).

DRACO is specific to work on viral infections. No clue whether it could be used on synthia. The announcement on that site is from 2011.
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DRACO is on the newly released winter storm name list.

And in mythology, DRACO is referred to as the "demon son" of Gaia, which is Mother Earth.

???
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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...

Thank you Scrappy Doo
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I am Scrappy Doo, check post times and IP addy's these bastards are at it again. But it is true that they have East Texas, and access to his computer. He knew this was a risk, please pray for him. By the way both the original OP (who is Top Dawg) and the wife of East Texas are monitoring this site. She also was aware of the risks and I know she is so proud of the man you all know as East Texas, who the Dawg Pound loves and respects so much more even now. Stay safe and vigilant folks and at this point it's best to trust your gut when something is posted from now on. We knew this might happen.
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.
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Big Dawg here, Patassa. I couldn't agree more.

Which is why I question the fact that you joined this site a few weeks after this whole shitstorm and posting started. Why not before?

I'm not saying your a disinfo agent but .... well yeah actually I am.

How about we let 'the readers understand".

Hmmm?
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Ok, Big Dawg...yes! yes! I have had a bad deceitful feeling surrounding Patassa for weeks and have voiced it many times. Thank you for calling that jackass out!hfhfhfhfhfhf
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Sorry if this has been answered but could part of this methane be Synthia`s byproduct? I recall reading that Synthia created methane as she ate carbon.

It would stand to reason Synthia breached the major reserve and is eating so much oil, the methane being produced could be mistaken as natural?
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credits for Anonymous Coward 19672960 in thread :
BREAKING: HUGE LEVELS of METHANE at and around LA Sinkhole!!!

Last Edited by Dangerwalt on 10/07/2012 04:09 AM
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Thanks Dangerwalt!!! hugs
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Thanks Dangerwalt!!! hugs
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hfhfhf
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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ISOLATION AND CHARACTERIZATION OF POTENT OIL
DEGRADING MICROBES FROM OIL CONTAMINATED SOURCES

[link to www.wjpps.com]


Microbial Degradation of Petroleum Hydrocarbon Contaminants: An Overview:
[link to www.hindawi.com]
In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when it’s there.
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Good finds LadyAnnie!
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You know it's not often that a guy my age finds pleasure in the lucidity of his brothers in arms.

The dumping back then is just like the dumping of today. Nothing has changed.

Let me emphasize that for all the neanderthals out there: Nothing has changed.

Our forefathers were and still are to be respected.
They didn't have access to info (read: measurements) as we have at hand today. So one could imply that they were some 'ignorant' sum'bitches.

And you know what, I know plenty dumb redneck sum'bitches that know more about humanity than most.

After World War II the emphasis was on returning to normalcy. The dumping was engineered mostly by americans. And it was expedited.

We bitch about the canisters, albeit by the ton, yet in the northern territories we have nerve gas stored by the millions.

We bitch about the lack of attention to certain hazards while alternately watching sinkholes swirling and the bottom of the ocean heaving. Everyone loves a reality show. Especially if they get to star in it. The world's a scene, more so of late. In the shade of a grand finale. Not.

Forget the shit with the dumped chemicals. No blame. Today the EPA still operates on a 'dilution' basis, nothing has changed. just the limits shift. Everyone covers their asses. Tweak the concentrations to keep everyone happy.

I'm surprised that some whack job hasn't come up and torched the gas. After all, isn't that policy? To throw money at the problem. Accelerate, if you skid!

Sad legacy. We stand here majestically, watching the world crumble, thinking what the fuck!

Typing stupid letters to each other: w - t - f

Interpret as one may. It's still programming, amusement, as energy fades away.... What is our purpose?

The problem is, the world is not a scene. From me to you, from my heart to yours, we know. We're on a path of destruction, unless!!!!!

Unless, we step out and take a stand!

Ok, cliche'

From my heart to yours, I plead.

Every single one of us has a role (to not play).

You see, Heaven.

Not in a church or on someone's chest.

Nor hidden as it stares one in the face.

Funny isn't it?

Ok, let me break IT down.

It's all bullshit.

Kiss your loved ones. Take a walk. Chat with everyone you meet. Be glad you're a redneck.

'cause in the grand scheme of things, we're a bunch of dump sum'bitches.

And fuck the salt domes! When they started exploiting them they didn't have the radar imaging tools of today, so there's no one to blame. The more we chase ghosts, the more we die.

And yeah, I cut it short, cause it's about 4 a.m. The mirabelle was good -)
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Good morning. Java came first today. I am going to use a name like skinnychic suggested in a previous post for tracking purposes. Forgive the wall of text but I assure you it will be interesting even if found not to be relevant.

I found a few links for aspergillius, the fungus supposedly responsible for the meningitis outbreak that were slightly un-nerving (forgive the pun). I could be way off base but the further I go down THIS rabbit hole, the less likely it seems. Aflatoxin is one of the identified toxins that the fungus aspergillus produces as a byproduct.

footnote found on this link: [link to www.esgtesting.com]
"In 1998, the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) identified aflatoxin from a. flavus and a. parasiticus as being
produced by Iraq as part of its program in biological warfare."

link for next sentence: [link to www.fas.org]
"In 1989, it was decided to move aflatoxin production for biological weapons purposes to a facility at Fudaliyah. The facility was used for aflatoxin production in flasks from April/May 1990 to December 1990. A total of about 1,850 litres of toxin in solution was declared as having been produced at Fudaliyah."

link: [link to www.mold-help.org]
This article is about Gulf war illnesses. See the subheading "Military Utility of Aflatoxin" in refernece to Iraq.

So far, what I have been able to understand is that the mold responsible for our meningitis outbreak was actually made into a bio-weapon. One toxin it produced has unknown effects, the other toxins it produces are deadly. They were weaponized in Iraq and we know that phosgene from Irag has been stored in underground areas in Arkansas.

Could we also have stored this toxin from Iraq and if so..???The only thing I have not been able to link so far is the symptoms being reported from meningitis do not appear to match the symptoms of the weaponized toxin. Still looking.

Also of some concern is if you google recent articles about aflatoxin, there are many such as this: [link to articles.chicagotribune.com]

Thanks for taking the time to read. This may be nothing, but something about it all bothers me.
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That didn't take long. Sadly.


Syndrome -- Invasive Aspergillosis

Symptoms:
Brain: meningitis:

Ontology: UMLS: C0025289

Description: Symptoms of invasive aspergillosis include brain meningitis

[link to ci.vbi.vt.edu]

The information can be found about 1/3 of the way down the page.
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Just in case no one knows this, steroids often lower immunity ALOT and at the same time will often mask an infection making it harder to know when someone is actually sick.

Looks like the incubation period on this type of meningitis is 2-28 days.
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yes this is something I do know through my MS. Steroids have been talked about a few times, including risks and benefits. I have never needed it yet though. My symptons have always been mild.
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Found a map. Crap.

[link to www.cdc.gov]
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What about cases not linked to the injections like the one talked about earlier, where someone just breathed in spores?
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Getting ready to sign out for the day but wanted to post a bit more of what I found first. If someone has the time to look further into this, great but if not I will try to pick it back up in the morning.

Found a link to New Orleans with the genome mapping here...
[link to www.aspergillusflavus.org]

The USDA/ARS/SRRC in New Orleans, Louisiana provided its Expressed Sequence Tag (EST) genomic database for A. flavus as a matching resource towards the complete genomic characterization of A. flavus..

What they cause/or are being mapped out for: [link to www.genome.gov]

Aspergillus flavus Source of aflatoxin in food stuffs and cause of human aspergillosis

Aspergillus nidulans Key model system for study of genetics and cell biology

Aspergillus terreus Major source of lovastatin
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[link to www.nlm.nih.gov]

Lovastatin is used together with diet, weight-loss, and exercise to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke and to decrease the chance that heart surgery will be needed in people who have heart disease or who are at risk of developing heart disease. Lovastatin is also used to decrease the amount of cholesterol (a fat-like substance) and other fatty substances in the blood. Lovastatin is in a class of medications called HMG CoA reductase inhibitors (statins). It works by slowing the production of cholesterol in the body to decrease the amount of cholesterol that may build up on the walls of the arteries and block blood flow to the heart, brain, and other parts of the body.
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East Texas again. Check my AC number and previous posts. That should say enough. Also.....get ready for a wall of text. We are going to have a "textual relationship", if you will.

For the record, I don't think JASTO is a shill, but I don't think he has inside info either, I was referring to the previous post calling themselves "East Texas". That was not "me". Again, check the AC numbers. But the other "East Texas" said something about Jaws being right about the land sinking, and THAT is, in fact, true. We'll cover that below.

Rather than give a synopsis of 'Day One' up to now, that doesn't really help since we're going over old data. What we're going to talk about is basically where we are NOW, what the real issues are, and where we're going.

So here goes.

The sinkhole is getting bigger, which we know. Original OP and the various Dawgs have confirmed this BEFORE offical confirmation came. We can all agree on this point.

Not sure about how this affects the Butane-filled salt dome but it's obvious the sinkhole is getting bigger and eventually WILL. There are other issues with what may or may not be in that hole, we'll come back to that later.

The problem right now is not that the sinkhole is getting bigger, and oddly enough, NOT that it will probably compromise the Butane dome. There is a vortex (albeit slow at this point) that can only be caused by a constant flow of water into - and OUT OF - the sinkhole.

Here is the REAL PROBLEM. Where is that water coming from, and where is it going?

The BP Macondo incident is directly related. That pressure simply doesn't go away. As the pressures internally were disturbed and high rates, the substructures of the ground were also disturbed. As the high-pressure gas (from decaying methane hydrates) seeks a path of least resistance, water from the seabed is forced into these 'gas channels' where it can find the least resistance.

How does water get into 'high pressure gas pockets'? Not all of the gas reservoir is a constant pressure and size. A smaller cavern, off the main cavern, with a size-restricted flow into/out of that cavern can actually be at a LOWER PRESSURE than the main cavity. Think of this in the same way you would use a pressure regulator on a BBQ gas grille. Restrict the flow on the high side, and control at lower pressure on the low side.

In this way, water pressure from the compromised sea floor gets into these gas pockets where there is lower pressure for the water to enter the gas channels.

ALL of these gas structures, to one extent or another, are connected.

So to simplify (as I have understood it), the sinkhole/vortex was created by saltwater (conveniently disguised as BRINE) entering a pocket of gas from a source far, far away. And it takes time, like I don't know, two years or so since the BP incident?

So we know where the water is coming from. What we DON'T know is where the salt water is going, although the damaged water aquifers suggests that the water and gas pressure is moving northward/northeast, towards the Mississipi river, which makes sense since that entire river system is basically an ancient fault zone. Meaning there are compromised soil areas all through that area.

If the Butane dome is ruptured, it very well could be a catastrophic explosive event, certainly for the local area within a radius of 35 miles or so. The previous posts saying that 'he could never go home' is true. You pretty much better write off that area ever being habitable again.

The WORSE part of this is that if there is an abrubt explosive event, this will do two things: create enormous back-pressure throughout the rift to (1) the still-damaged BP Macondo seafloor, and (2) the Mississippi river "New Madrid" fault system.

You're seeing the big picture now.

This is where the "other East Texas" got some things right in regards to FEMA preps, etc. but I don't know what that poster was talking about in regards to Chinese troops and all that crap. But it's obvious that FEMA has been preparing for SOMETHING.

So this is what's happened by educated conjecture, and what the fears are of what's coming. But there are other concerns. Apparently there is some truth to part of the "Bezerk" thread regarding biomatter used to control the oil. This is a major concern because apparently traces of biomatter have been detected at the sinkhole site, which means that no one is sure if this was expected or not. Add to this the belief that there are, in fact, both nuclear waste AND possible deadly munitions dumps in not only this dome, but others in that area. And if the Butane dome ruptures, expect ALL of the domes in that area to rupture.

In other words, this is literally uncharted doom territory on a global scale.

It's hard not to hear when the Dawgs are barking.

Stay safe.
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Could someone please tell me on which page the synopsis appeared? thanks in advance.
 Quoting: anon. 25096914


thinking pg 53 but could be wrong ...I haven't checked lately!
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Sorry, I was way off. It was on pg 84! Reposted it above for you!
 Quoting: Paa Tal


Thank you very much. He/She said to keep digging but this post seems pretty straight forward to me, not sure what more there is to dig for.
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Big Dawg here. East Texas or his wife cannot see or monitor this site and probably Internet in general. Just because he was released doesn't mean they do t have the noose half on/half off. He's out of play.

Go back to all the warnings, and the synopsis given, and put it together.

Just like the original op told you, you are being told something.

Keep digging.
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Scrappy Doo back again quickly people, I can't believe they're already using East Texas's computer. Never underestimate the stupidity of those who truly believe they're SUPERIOR to you and me.

This has been said before but this is a standing advisement to those of you we've been trying to inform, DO NOT trust the East Texas poster/internet addy anymore. He's in custody.
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Thank you Scrappy Doo
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I am Scrappy Doo, check post times and IP addy's these bastards are at it again. But it is true that they have East Texas, and access to his computer. He knew this was a risk, please pray for him. By the way both the original OP (who is Top Dawg) and the wife of East Texas are monitoring this site. She also was aware of the risks and I know she is so proud of the man you all know as East Texas, who the Dawg Pound loves and respects so much more even now. Stay safe and vigilant folks and at this point it's best to trust your gut when something is posted from now on. We knew this might happen.
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Man....Big Dawg, Top Dawg, Scrappy Dawg, Snoopy Dawg, East Texas. All working together but all posting conflicting information.
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Some of them are shilling, we have to discern.

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SAY HELLO TO SYNTHIA

In 2003, JCVI successfully synthesized a small virus that infects bacteria. By 2008, the JCVI team was able to synthesize a small bacterial genome. On May 6, 2010, JCVI revealed they had already created a self-replicating bacterial cell controlled by a chemically synthesized genome they named "synthetic Mycoplasma mycoides JCVI-syn1.0". (7) This completely synthetic cell with its computer designed genome has absolutely no natural DNA. (1) The etc group from Canada named it Synthia and it contains added watermark chains to identify the genome as artificial. It also has antibiotic resistance indicators. (7) One can only speculate why this artificial bacterium has an inherent programmed capability to resist antibiotics.

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Googled the fungal name of aspergillus and Craig Venter and found this. Seems his institute is or was heading up some research. Could this prove to be airborne afterall????????


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Mad scientist runs amuck so Synthia and its cousin eating below and the other creation is above ultimately attacking man. Below and above contamination

Wasn't Joplin morgue aslo fungus related?

Is there a connection?

What will be the name of the new disease Dr. Ventorstein?
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"Consider the very strong possibility that the Oil/Corexit/GM micro-biology is now being deposited throughout the Eastern USA as a result of evaporation from the Gulf of Mexico," stated former top oil executive turned top Gulf oil whistleblower Ian Crane today.

from reporter Debra Dupre, June 12, 2011
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if you did not watch i suggest you do!
i did this video 4 month ago.

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awwwwsome video!
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Surely just a coincidence but interesting to know that the FDA in recent days have relaxed laws on aflatoxin in three states.

I can not post the link due to copyright threats via reuters
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siren2 Damn! Look at those 11 sample levels!
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1) risk of illness(short term-long term)due to exposure to a chemical at levels that coud cause illness.
2) risk of fire/explosion.
3) risk of injury.

damned
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Talk about confirmation to what we have been saying! Although we know it's not just the methane causing problems! Again, folks in the area please get out of there! hf
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I think your all missing the bit where it says, "Of the chemicals reviewed, only meathane, detected in the industrial water wells, presents a potential health risk. Type 2 risk of fire and explosion.

Which is bad enough, you don't need to over dramatise this it's bad but the other chemicals were tested for but not found or not found in dangerous concentrations.. That is why they've put an asterix on the methane, it's the only one that was found in dangerous concentrations. They do not say if the others were found in small concentrations or even at all.

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Good morning, ya'll! Finally caught up on all the great info that has been posted. What a great group of people on this thread! Just wanted to say thank you to the many people who are spending so much time and energy researching. You are truly appreciated! Have a blessed day!

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Just want to thank everyone again who has contributed to this thread, I've read since the beginning. Haven't had much to add but am grateful for all your hard work putting this important information together.
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I was following the links from another thread about a confirmed report of crimean congo, ended up turning into a several hour research project

There are 4 levels of biological safety labs, with bio-level 4 (bsl-4) being the most dangerous. No cure. No vaccines. Not always fatal perhaps, but bsl-4 does have a very high mortality rate. You can only treat the symptoms of the patient...theres no cure for the disease itself.

[link to hpac.com]

All hemorrhagic diseases are level 4.

There are only 30 bsl-4 labs in the world, and 15 of those are found in the united states.

One in massachusetts, 5 in maryland, 1 in kansas, 2 in georgia, 1 in ohio, 1 in montana, 1 in virgina, and 3 in texas.

I checked into where these facilities were specifically located. Which organization(s) they were run by. Who they reported to, etc..

Most were exactly what you'd expect to find. Medical research facilities & development teams…university & teaching laboratories. …& a few government biological/chemical studies. Nothing at all unusual. Until I got to the 3 texas labs, and I seen that one of the labs listed was the only independently owned/operated bsl-4 laboratory in the world.

Private doesn’t mean ‘with disregard’, but there is a different atmosphere. Different priorities. Plus, you're not held to the same level of accountability. You’ve got more wiggle-room. More flexibility. Less moral, public opinion, and political obstacles.

Another huge difference is that privately run labs tend to focus their time, attention, and their funding on what is ~~profitable~~

But the level 4 license made no sense to me, because they are strictly regulated….and they’re regulated for a reason. You don’t want just any Tom, Dick, or Harry messing around with that stuff because there is a good possibility of a major pandemic or ELE if handled improperly.

I'm prohibited by city ordinance from owning a pot-bellied pig because someone listed them as being a 'dangerous & unpredictable' animal……yet someone in texas can juggle ebola, anthrax and hantavirus? Really?

Yeah….something didn't sound right to me either....so I dug some more.

Of the 3 bsl-4 labs listed in Texas, two sounded legit. Just one stood out. It’s the 'Texas Biomedical Research Institute’ located in San Antonia. There’s also a separate research lab on the same property…..and it’s called ‘Southwest Primate Research Institute. They do extensive (and not very nice) testing on primates and are in a near constant battle with PETA over cruel & inhumane treatment of the animals.

This place is huge…200+ acres. The number of people working there varied depending on which site I visited. But (roughly) 4-5,000 would be a good estimate.

In May 2012, they started a huge expansion project that will add another 15 research buildings. When completed, it will add an additional 70,000 square feet of research, development & office space. With over 2 million sq ft total.

So I dug some more.....

This independently run bsl-4 specializes in genetics & virology/immunology research with additional interests being listed for bio-terrorism. It lists itself as having over 4000 'non-human primates' in house for testing & research purposes. I've never heard lab animals described that way (non-human) but maybe it’s an industry term.

I’m not exactly sure how it ties in to this specifically, but Craig Venter’s name kept coming up on these web sites. Other names too that was consistant with both research centers. Maybe not that unusual considering how specialized this field is. There may/may not be a connection there, but it is a bit curious and something I'll study when I have more time.

You can tell a lot about cooperate america by who the major contributors are. Who are the lobbyists. Who’s giving the largest donations. Because nearly 100% of the time, those that invest the most into a business, will expect the most out of it. It's not personal...it's business. Simple math.

Much of the funding comes from corporate grants which includes Pfizer and some other big pharmaceutical companies. Plus there are pages and pages of private donations that will take me a couple of days to go through.
See who's connected with each reearch facility then figure out who has ties to both...because from what I've read the past few hours, there might be a little meat here somewhere.

So let’s review:

**There’s only 1 privately owned research and development laboratory in the world that is classified as being a bio safety lab #4. This lab, although not held accountable to the public as other bsl-4 labs, has a license to handle the most dangerous viral & bacterial samples on this planet. This lab receives unknown amts of govt subsidies yet is not held accountable for how these funds are spent because they are a privately run/operated laboratory. This lab is also heavily funded by the pharmaceutical companies, especially Pfizer, and other big fortune 500 companies.

**There is a different research and development facility located within the same property management group which is heavily funded in specialized pharmaceutical and bio/chemical testing on primates. This lab has ties to the airline industry and the military and was just awarded a 5+ million dollar contract from DARPA .

**and...just in case you're not familiar with the geography of the area…..San Antonio is west of Baton Rouge. Almost in a direct straight line.

All my links for verification are posted. If you have a hard time finding anything specific, lemme know and I’ll try and point you to the right site/page number. When I have time, I'll pick this up again, and see where it leads me.

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San Antonio — August 22, 2012 — Southwest Research Institute has been awarded a $5.1 million contract by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to develop the Context Model Library as part of the Component, Context and Manufacturing Model Library-2 (C2M2L-2) for the DARPA Adaptive Vehicle Make program.

Darpa contract (swri is aka lab #2…the primate research one)
[link to www.swri.org]

Texas Biomedical Research Institute/Southwest National Primate Research
Biomedical Research Institute News
PO Box 760549 San Antonio TX 78245-0549

donations to the research centers:
[link to www.opensecrets.org]

listing of all bio-safety #4 labs:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

association for independent laboratory listings:
[link to www.airi.org]

texas bio-medical research lab (lab #1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more info on texas bio-medical info…explains relationship betw the two labs:
[link to www.tshaonline.org]

bio-level #4 restrictions/safety protocol—good information if you’re not aware of protocol for bio level 4:
[link to hpac.com]

(lab #2) southwest research institute (primate studies):
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

more primate study information:
[link to txbiomed.org]
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This is getting worse and worse, and I didn't think that was possible.

Some thoughts...

1. The DRACO vaccine - developed by MIT, but who helped fund the research? As stated before, follow the money. I haven't looked yet, but will start.

2. One thing I remember reading earlier on synthia (from during the BP stuff) was that some people were concerned about the mutation of synthia, up to and including the possibility that it has merged and mutated with or to produce Augie. What if synthia reached land, via gulf storms, found a willing merge/mutate partner in naturally-occuring fungus, and......

OR
3. Venter's big thing in developing the artificial microbe was to have it be a 'generic' microbe until a specific pandemic bug came along and mass vaccines were needed. (Read that exact explanation in my research last night. Will try to locate the article again.) What if he (or others) decided to help the pandemic along so that mass vaccines were needed???? Oh, wait, they've already been developed, just happen to have a large supply you can sell.../sarcasm off/ Lots of 'doomers' have speculated that one way tptb would ease the demand on earth's natural resources would be to drastically reduce the population but in a way that wouldn't point the finger at them for the cause.

One other comment that hit home, after that same article I think, was the objection that since the base of the vaccine was computer generated, this could possibly be programmed to be readable just like the implanted computer chip is intended to be. When the microbe/vaccine is injected, the microbe will adapt to it's host's DNA, and as the microbe replicates, it will infest into all parts of the host, and will be a readable medical file. A one-of-a-kind internal ID card. Or worse. THe intention or at least the extended purpose is to have everyone 'chipped' without ever knowing, until it's too late.
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