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I will eat dog shit if Patassa actually produced first hand video , let alone first hand anything. I noticed he conveniently didn't see my very easy suggestion to prove his legitimacy of location even after he said he was open to any suggestions.

This guy(s) is a shill professor. I bet this thread will be used as a training example in the future. I can imagine seeing the new shills faces when shown the exquisite work of the "Great Patassa!"
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Shhhh, he has a friend now in 884. Obviously this person is new to the thread and didn't watch 20 pages of quote after quote after quote...miles long that is, Texas tea!
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Do you guys think that maybe the people who were given the steroid shots are getting this disease first simply because the steroid diminishes their immune system and allows the spores from someplace else take hold?
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Big Dawg here, important update on meningitis issue. Pay close attention to news stories and seek out friends or family who may become infected with 'meningitis' - question the medical staff and find out if meningitis truly fits the symptoms. We have learned a few things that give us reason to suspect that these 'cases' are being called meningitis - but are in fact something else.

From what we've learned the truth of this illness would in fact point directly to a substance used during the Deepwater Horizon incident (NOT Synthia and NOT Corexit but a bio component nonetheless). If true, therefore gives some proof of the connection between DWH and Assumption. More as we find out more.
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Just what I was doing...first one up besides Flu in West Nile...same symptoms...
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

West Nile virus (WNV) is a mosquito-borne zoonotic arbovirus belonging to the genus Flavivirus in the family Flaviviridae. This flavivirus is found in temperate and tropical regions of the world. It was first identified in the West Nile subregion in the East African nation of Uganda in 1937. Prior to the mid 1990s, WNV disease occurred only sporadically and was considered a minor risk for humans, until an outbreak in Algeria in 1994, with cases of WNV-caused encephalitis, and the first large outbreak in Romania in 1996, with a high number of cases with neuroinvasive disease. WNV has now spread globally, with the first case in the Western Hemisphere being identified in New York City in 1999;[1] over the next 5 years, the virus spread across the continental United States, north into Canada, and southward into the Caribbean Islands and Latin America. WNV also spread to Europe, beyond the Mediterranean Basin [a new strain of the virus was recently (2012) identified in Italy]. WNV is now considered to be an endemic pathogen in Africa, Asia, Australia, the Middle East, Europe and in the United States, which in 2012 has experienced one of its worst epidemics.
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This made me remember when they sprayed the Dallas area with pesticide because of WNV. Hmmm...was it just that area or were other states/cities sprayed?

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in order to understand what the status of these plastic things could be, we need to answer a couple questions

where were they made? my guess china

was cindy oil used to make them? no way to know

where did they come into our country thru? maybe port of NO?

either way the possibility exhists that rather than the plastic being internally contaninated, I would suspect a biofilm. if glutonous cindy eats oil, why not plastic made with oil. if you eat meat, you eat meat. don't over think this stuff
trucks run down hwy 10 all day long. whats that gunk on the road? splash, nevermind
its not like any muddy trucks have been driving around the sinkhole and then hit the highway
or evacuees with their rvs, boats and
campers
i would look more towards the where did evacuees go, and such. any of these sick FROM la, and in another state
oil patch workers
fedral or fema workers or inspectors

oh and sorry reaper, no maps

but boy that doc I quoted is so interesting, people all should read it
salt is plastic, ya know
too LITTLE pressure causes salt caverns to contract
it the texas brine one had lost pressure, its wall could have been pushed by one of the caverns (53 in that dome, I think)
interesting doc, and boy have they killed lots of people in it from this same stuff

dr
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Other rare causes of bacterial meningitis include anthrax, enterobacteria, enterococci, leptospira, Lyme
disease, rickettsial diseases, staphylococci, syphilis and tuberculosis.

Just a thought.....
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Other rare causes of bacterial meningitis include anthrax, enterobacteria, enterococci, leptospira, Lyme
disease, rickettsial diseases, staphylococci, syphilis and tuberculosis.

Just a thought.....
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hhhmmm.....

thats quite a list there sparky

so what other wonderful variations are fungal
jungle rot, trenchfoot?

wow...

dr
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in order to understand what the status of these plastic things could be, we need to answer a couple questions

where were they made? my guess china

was cindy oil used to make them? no way to know

where did they come into our country thru? maybe port of NO?

either way the possibility exhists that rather than the plastic being internally contaninated, I would suspect a biofilm. if glutonous cindy eats oil, why not plastic made with oil. if you eat meat, you eat meat. don't over think this stuff
trucks run down hwy 10 all day long. whats that gunk on the road? splash, nevermind
its not like any muddy trucks have been driving around the sinkhole and then hit the highway
or evacuees with their rvs, boats and
campers
i would look more towards the where did evacuees go, and such. any of these sick FROM la, and in another state
oil patch workers
fedral or fema workers or inspectors

oh and sorry reaper, no maps

but boy that doc I quoted is so interesting, people all should read it
salt is plastic, ya know
too LITTLE pressure causes salt caverns to contract
it the texas brine one had lost pressure, its wall could have been pushed by one of the caverns (53 in that dome, I think)
interesting doc, and boy have they killed lots of people in it from this same stuff

dr
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Thank you for replying. It just struck that this Cindy stuff(as you like to call it) could have mutated into lord know what. But your observation makes much more sense. I'm over thinking this, I think!
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Big Dawg here, important update on meningitis issue. Pay close attention to news stories and seek out friends or family who may become infected with 'meningitis' - question the medical staff and find out if meningitis truly fits the symptoms. We have learned a few things that give us reason to suspect that these 'cases' are being called meningitis - but are in fact something else.

From what we've learned the truth of this illness would in fact point directly to a substance used during the Deepwater Horizon incident (NOT Synthia and NOT Corexit but a bio component nonetheless). If true, therefore gives some proof of the connection between DWH and Assumption. More as we find out more.
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There you go again, engaging in innuendo and cat and mouse.

First of all, you're recommending people "question the medical staff" . . . anyone who knows the truth about the medical industry would KNOW that "questioning" staff does NOT necessarily mean they will be provided the truth or information in their best interest.

"we have learned a few things" you say . . . OK, WHAT?

"from what we've learned" you say . . . OK, WHAT?

Unless you have something substantial, all you're doing is instilling more fear and a sense of panic in some people.

You've stirred the pot about a "possible" meningitis link and NOW, you're claiming it's another substance.

There is NO solid proof that the outbreak is directly correlated to what's happening in LA.

Why don't you WAIT until you know for sure.
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Squatting Cat - it is my belief that some of the various infections are coming from the contaminated water. hf
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I thought that is where you were going. But if that was the case, you would think that most of the cases would be in the surrounding areas of the GOM, wouldn't you? According to the CDC map, most of the cases are in Tennessee, with Virginia coming in second. And curiously (to me, anyway) there are no cases reported in Louisiana, Mississippi Alabama or Texas. There are a few in Florida. Hopefully we will get more info in the coming days to try to put the puzzle together, but right now I am not convinced that these events are related.
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I posted earlier how CDC has one definition for meningitis but another agency has the complete opposite. ( my point being they are not to be trusted as the final authority) My suggestion would be to go check maps that are not CDC. There were many on here but way too hard to go back and find now. Would be easier to search through google and utube. Those maps do show the cases in the other states around the gulf. The non CDC maps show a frightening pattern. I would be interested to hear what you think after you see them. hf
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I looked at some maps earlier and noticed a pattern too. I can't remember where I got them from. I think one of the other sinkhole threads.
Now Dawg is saying to question whether it actually IS meningitis. HMMM?

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I don't know which one or more is connected. (meningitis, flesh eating, zombie, west nile, H3N2, etc.). Seems like a whole handful of new nasty stuff has surfaced after the original oil disaster. But a few of those do show map trends...which worries me....and makes me think a few are connected. I am not trying to cause fear. I am trying to make people aware so they can come to their own conclusions...And protect themselves if they feel they should. obviously I feel we all should. Let's face it, TPTB are famous for telling us the truth way after the fact...sometimes years later, if ever. Why would this be any different?!?! At this point I would not be surprised to see something new added to the list either. I advise everyone to do their own research. But know that my heart is in the right place. Helping people is what I DO. And who I work for does give me a first hand, tainted experience. hf
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Either way, this shit is obviously taking the immune-deficient in our society. Steroids injections kill off your immunity, along with people who are being irradiated(right?), so they've got this "meningitis. Let's keep an eye on people who have a cancer being treated with radiation.

AND EVERYONE BULK UP ON YOUR VITAMIN D. I'm taking 50,000/week, but I have a shattered pelvis and tailbone, so don't take as much as I. And get out in the sun, our true all natural source of vitamin D.

I will also have the kids take me up to the bookstore tomorrow to check out the mapsco thing. If we can figure out the code from all those pages ago, it just may unlock something we haven't put together yet.
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I don't know which one or more is connected. (meningitis, flesh eating, zombie, west nile, H3N2, etc.). Seems like a whole handful of new nasty stuff has surfaced after the original oil disaster. But a few of those do show map trends...which worries me....and makes me think a few are connected. I am not trying to cause fear. I am trying to make people aware so they can come to their own conclusions...And protect themselves if they feel they should. obviously I feel we all should. Let's face it, TPTB are famous for telling us the truth way after the fact...sometimes years later, if ever. Why would this be any different?!?! At this point I would not be surprised to see something new added to the list either. I advise everyone to do their own research. But know that my heart is in the right place. Helping people is what I DO. And who I work for does give me a first hand, tainted experience. hf
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[link to rt.com]

Several state and city governments across the US say that the aerial spraying of pesticides has decimated the threat of West Nile Virus in certain locales. Experts, on the other hand, say these efforts are exaggerated, fabricated and even impossible.

Despite claims in places such as Dallas, Texas and Boston, Massachusetts that the blasting pesticides onto the Earth from airplanes above is aiding the fight against West Nile, skeptics continue to scold these allegations.

"I don't believe those figures. Frankly, I don't think they're real," David Pimentel, an emeritus professor at Cornell University, tells Huffington Post.

"How hard could it be to search for that data? It should be at their fingertips if they issued this press release,” pleads Bennet, who was once a federal staffer with the US Environmental Protection Agency.

Just researching, but it's still odd.

hf
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Despite claims in places such as Dallas, Texas and Boston, Massachusetts that the blasting pesticides onto the Earth from airplanes above is aiding the fight against West Nile, skeptics continue to scold these allegations.

"I don't believe those figures. Frankly, I don't think they're real," David Pimentel, an emeritus professor at Cornell University, tells Huffington Post.

"How hard could it be to search for that data? It should be at their fingertips if they issued this press release,” pleads Bennet, who was once a federal staffer with the US Environmental Protection Agency.

Just researching, but it's still odd.

hf
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The spraying was absolutely pointless - it only affected the flying mosquitos, NOT the ones breeding in hidden places like pools of water, old tires, etc.

Spraying was an enormous waste of money and a danger to the general public.
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It's a shame that what was an interesting thread - about the LA sinkhole and the ongoing connection of the dots tracing back to the fault line breach by BP and the potential this all has to affect NMSZ and all of America . . . has turned into an obsession about meningitis and various other illnesses which NO ONE has been able to substantially connect to the LA sinkhole debacle.

Yes, there are pieces here and there linking one to another, but some posts carry a "tone" of near panic and thus far, the outbreak is not of pandemic proportions and therefore, should not be the focus of this thread.

You're being played by the radio guys . . . stick to what YOU read and learn and know . . . use your own logic and stay on the right track.

The BP/LA/NM trail is widening, it's a huge issue . . . focus on that.
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There you go again, engaging in innuendo and cat and mouse.

First of all, you're recommending people "question the medical staff" . . . anyone who knows the truth about the medical industry would KNOW that "questioning" staff does NOT necessarily mean they will be provided the truth or information in their best interest.

"we have learned a few things" you say . . . OK, WHAT?

"from what we've learned" you say . . . OK, WHAT?

Unless you have something substantial, all you're doing is instilling more fear and a sense of panic in some people.

You've stirred the pot about a "possible" meningitis link and NOW, you're claiming it's another substance.

There is NO solid proof that the outbreak is directly correlated to what's happening in LA.

Why don't you WAIT until you know for sure.
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Big Dawg here. You were told previously that some data cannot be shared. This isn't from a desire to keep it from anyone but to protect certain individuals. The "watermark" analogy was previously used to explain how certain people have parts of the truth and others have other parts. Being too specific exposes the people holding that particular piece if the puzzle, as it were.

Of course questioning the staff might not get you anywhere, but if you're at all intuitive and I think you are you can tell when you're being buffaloed. The docs or nursing staff won't make eye contact, etc. in other words use your instincts. We honestly don't know what the specific issue is, other than the FACT cases are spreading and we think the meningitis story is a cover. Sorry but we cannot share anything specific. If that is not enough then maybe you should be watching TV right now instead of attempting to educate yourself on sites like this.

I frankly do not care about the concept of fear and neither do the Dawgs. Not happy if people are scared but if that means they are aware then mission accomplished.

Keep in mind everything previously posted by OP, East Texas, and the Dawgs met the same 'lack of proof' standard you're speaking of right now. In EVERY case the things they warned about have become fact.

Heed the warnings, don't heed them. Our conscience is clear.

Once again, 'let the reader understand'.
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It's a shame that what was an interesting thread - about the LA sinkhole and the ongoing connection of the dots tracing back to the fault line breach by BP and the potential this all has to affect NMSZ and all of America . . . has turned into an obsession about meningitis and various other illnesses which NO ONE has been able to substantially connect to the LA sinkhole debacle.

Yes, there are pieces here and there linking one to another, but some posts carry a "tone" of near panic and thus far, the outbreak is not of pandemic proportions and therefore, should not be the focus of this thread.

You're being played by the radio guys . . . stick to what YOU read and learn and know . . . use your own logic and stay on the right track.

The BP/LA/NM trail is widening, it's a huge issue . . . focus on that.
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I don't quite think focus is being lost.. People simply have to consider the possibilities, and this is a possibility indeed, that the diseases might be related to the whole scenario.
Of course no one should let this mere possibility cloud all solid things we got so far.
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And by the way the radio station reference was to describe who I am -Big Dawg. The people at the radio station are completely uninvolved.

And furthermore we have sensed that some feel we are doing this to 'get credit' for exposing it. We could give two figs for credit. We are agitated that some are saying not to listen. THAT would be a mistake.

The record of accuracy of the Dawgs speaks for itself.

Let the reader understand.
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Big Dawg here, important update on meningitis issue. Pay close attention to news stories and seek out friends or family who may become infected with 'meningitis' - question the medical staff and find out if meningitis truly fits the symptoms. We have learned a few things that give us reason to suspect that these 'cases' are being called meningitis - but are in fact something else.

From what we've learned the truth of this illness would in fact point directly to a substance used during the Deepwater Horizon incident (NOT Synthia and NOT Corexit but a bio component nonetheless). If true, therefore gives some proof of the connection between DWH and Assumption. More as we find out more.
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Does anyone recall another substanced used during the BP incident? Another bio component, beside coexist and synthia?
I'll try to do some digging on that, as those are the only two that I recall being talked about at the time.
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I think many people still do not fully understand how any of this could be intentional OR appreciate the true scale of what is happening.

I really urge you to watch this whole show of Jesse Ventura. Although it is linked to the BP oil spill you will see why that spill occured and be appalled at the apparent links to the BP disaster and our current sinkhole disaster.

The very last segment of this report shows clearly what kind of forces are at work here and if you don't have the attention span to watch the whole thing it tells about the Army Corps of Engineers and the federal government announcing a 40 billion dollar project to depopulate the Gulf of Mexico!

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I think many people still do not fully understand how any of this could be intentional OR appreciate the true scale of what is happening.

I really urge you to watch this whole show of Jesse Ventura. Although it is linked to the BP oil spill you will see why that spill occured and be appalled at the apparent links to the BP disaster and our current sinkhole disaster.

The very last segment of this report shows clearly what kind of forces are at work here and if you don't have the attention span to watch the whole thing it tells about the Army Corps of Engineers and the federal government announcing a 40 billion dollar project to depopulate the Gulf of Mexico!


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Not sure why my last youtube link didn't post so I tried a new one.
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hey big Dawg,thanks.

Any possibility are the mississippi river is involved in all this?
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Don't focus on the guys from 106 FM.

Focus on the story itself, the facts that are supported by the evidence.

BP is the key. The fault line was compromised and set off a chain reaction. The domino effect is now in effect.

The radio guys are just playing it for what it's worth because that's what they do.

Focus on the actual story from the Gulf northward to NM and the outlying radius.
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I'm focused on the problem.
that's why I asked the question...
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Somebody mentioned a while back that the track of the states with confirmed cases didn't seem logical since TX was in the pattern that the storm should have spread...well, there are 2 clinics in TX that received tainted vials, and both of them are pretty large operations. I won't be surprised to see cases announced in the state within a couple of days.
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CSS Assessment for Naturally Fractured Reservoirs

Page 41 (traveled 2 miles in 2 days):
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Starting to think there is an issue with a nearby coalbed methane that is effecting the salt cavern.
[link to www.searchanddiscovery.com]
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And by the way the radio station reference was to describe who I am -Big Dawg. The people at the radio station are completely uninvolved.

And furthermore we have sensed that some feel we are doing this to 'get credit' for exposing it. We could give two figs for credit. We are agitated that some are saying not to listen. THAT would be a mistake.

The record of accuracy of the Dawgs speaks for itself.

Let the reader understand.
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I roll with the dawgs yo. well, I run behind the car. Keep safe Big Dawg and please know that you are helping countless thousands of people every day here.....

Thank you.
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Strange Roaring Sound Recorded in Northwest Louisiana - What the hell is this?

Thread: Strange Roaring Sound Recorded in Northwest Louisiana - What the hell is this?

Listen around 5 mins in or so. EVERYTHING CONNECTED??? We have heard that many times by the DAWGS....
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According to ABC Nightime, 27 new cases, 91 cases total, 7 have died. Didn't catch how many states :(
Tracked to New England Compound Center, NECC
Hmmm, that was it. Some *rare* form of meningitis!
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According to ABC Nightime, 27 new cases, 91 cases total, 7 have died. Didn't catch how many states :(
Tracked to New England Compound Center, NECC
Hmmm, that was it. Some *rare* form of meningitis!
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9 states with cases, and 23 states that received recalled doses of this injectable steroid, between July and September.
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hey big Dawg,thanks.

Any possibility are the mississippi river is involved in all this?
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Don't focus on the guys from 106 FM.

Focus on the story itself, the facts that are supported by the evidence.

BP is the key. The fault line was compromised and set off a chain reaction. The domino effect is now in effect.

The radio guys are just playing it for what it's worth because that's what they do.

Focus on the actual story from the Gulf northward to NM and the outlying radius.
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I'm focused on the problem.
that's why I asked the question...
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Yes, I know you've been following this thread and asking pertinent questions.
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Bumping the thread to keep it active
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ok, someone please help me understand! CDC says Fungal meningitis is rare and usually the result of spread of a fungus through blood to the spinal cord. Fungal meningitis is not contagious. [link to www.cdc.gov]
But then Meningitis Foundation of America says: Fungal meningitis, also known as Cryptococcus neoformans, is yeast found in soil throughout the world that usually strikes people with compromised immune systems.
Fungal meningitis is contracted by inhaling airborne yeast cells. The infection is uncommon and not easily spread to others, but serious and requires immediate medical attention. [link to www.meningitisfoundationofamerica.org] So one says not contagious and the other says it can be. wtf
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REPEAT:

Please posters . . .

Steer this thread back on track . . . to BP, the Gulf, LA sinkhole, Occidental, fault line, gas line criss-cross, New Madrid.
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That is my AC post above...sorry different computer and forgot to log in. Don't you see, it IS all connected!
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No, I don't see. From what little I have read it is in the tubing? in the shot that is given to people with back pain?

Oh, the tubing is made from plastic which is made from petroleum ... Is that what you are saying?
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No but you make a very good point, plastic is made from Oil or something from the oil industry, if there's something in the oil it could easily be in plastic too.
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I don't think it's related, but :
Thread: Corn, Tobacco, and Rice engineered with HUMAN GENES

Human rice? hiding





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