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just saw this..if been posted please excuse

I am a little lost. If there is a mandatory evac why are any residents still there or is this for area right around the sink hole?
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People are staying.
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just saw this..if been posted please excuse

I am a little lost. If there is a mandatory evac why are any residents still there or is this for area right around the sink hole?
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People are staying.
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It is confusing. My understanding is the mandatory evac should be called 'suggested' since it has not been enforced. Also I don't think a lot of people even know about the 'suggested' evac.
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Oh, siniXster - thank you so much!!! I really needed that. Took quite a "beating" from family and church friends over the weekend. Hubby actually just got up and walked out of the room when I was trying to tell him, daughter & son-in-law about Venter and the synthetic vaccines. (Granddaughter is due for another vaccination, per the school) And my church friends response was, "God won't let that happen!" The conversation shut down when I started trying to tell them that it already had. Except for my sister and grandson, and you guys here, there is no one that I can talk to about any of this. Someone else posted about how frustrating it is to have everyone around you only interested in the trivialities. I can vouch for that!!! So, thanks! I really needed to hear that song, and know that there are a few folks out there that don't think I'm a certified nut case!!!

hf hf hf hf hf hf

Patassa - thanks for the reports! I know you have enough going on in your life, but having someone on-site to give the local perspective is much needed! I appreciate that you took the time to let us know. Please stay safe!

To Brazil and any others who have gotten discouraged about the bs that keeps cropping up here - PLEASE don't give up! Everyone is valuable, because without all the varied input (except for the obvious shill bs) we would not have such varied and documented info! I've learned so much that I never dreamed was happening or had happened! And knowledge is power!!!

To those who are fairly new to the thread, who have complained or criticised about some of the wild and often undocumented theories or ideas that get tossed in here - that is how some of the best info has come to light. Without the freedom to make guesses, even if they seem way out there, we are limited to pretty narrow fields of pursuit. And whether you believe in the Dawgs or not, their posts have played a large role in getting this quest for info and answers started. And in today's crazy world where lies and cover-ups are commonplace, looking for truth and answers is a good thing. Here's a few that I had no clue about: Venter, synthia and augie, the other BP blow-outs, Blue Plague, synthetic vaccines, the extent of the oil companies' operations in LA, the fact that there have been quite a few salt cavern problems...there's quite a list. If the info here helps educate anyone else as much as it has me, it can only be a good thing!!!

Something that struck me last night, right before I stumbled off to bed, is how many large corporations, big pharmas, and wealthy individuals are partnered with/sponsoring Venter. THought about trying to research and draft a list, but was just too tired. And have had a really annoying headache for 3 days now...not sure if it's due to increased solar activity or not. And for next few days I have too much bookkeeping and quarterly reports to do. I'll try to get to it later.

Also, there was another thread about all the sinkholes around the world, most of which are blamed on underground water leaks. I don't think that that OP came back and posted all his compiled data, but would be interesting to see and map. I think it's another piece of the puzzle about what's really happening to our earth.

Thanks to everyone here for being persistent. Sorry for the wall of text, but some of the posts and criticisms have been wieghing on me. Thanks for letting me rant...
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Thanks.hf
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Good morning All...

Day 3 passes w/ no upheaval in the Bayou, another quiet night for the most part, hope everyone is safe and sound.
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So are we agreeing that this "DAWG" is a fraud? (not the OP, but the one who claimed we had 3 days)? Sorry if this was already answered... playing catch up from yesterday right now :)
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I don't believe it was Dawg that posted that three day post? I could be wrong but I didn't think at the timet the AC number added up?
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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Thanks for confirming. Looking forward to the updates.
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will there be lots of capital letters this time?.....
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Now that the faultlines have been liquified the New Madrid will reap like a zipper. OO7 - A View to Kill, 1985

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Good morning All...

Day 3 passes w/ no upheaval in the Bayou, another quiet night for the most part, hope everyone is safe and sound.
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So are we agreeing that this "DAWG" is a fraud? (not the OP, but the one who claimed we had 3 days)? Sorry if this was already answered... playing catch up from yesterday right now :)
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I don't believe it was Dawg that posted that three day post? I could be wrong but I didn't think at the timet the AC number added up?
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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Why do you insist on posting these cryptic messages instead of cutting to the chase . . . post what you know!
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So are we agreeing that this "DAWG" is a fraud? (not the OP, but the one who claimed we had 3 days)? Sorry if this was already answered... playing catch up from yesterday right now :)
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I don't believe it was Dawg that posted that three day post? I could be wrong but I didn't think at the timet the AC number added up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594


The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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Why do you insist on posting these cryptic messages instead of cutting to the chase . . . post what you know!
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they're retards and they don't know squat.
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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So you are waiting on this alleged "Big Dawg" to "authorize" a release of crucial information?

Even though you KNOW there are people experiencing symptoms and hardship in that region . . .

Your innuendo here is:

"full blow"

"buildup

"Blazing"


And so . . . you are insinuating the area is going to explode or something.

You are either withholding - INTENTIONALLY - crucial information that may help people . . .

OR

You are playing a stupid, reckless game.
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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So you are waiting on this alleged "Big Dawg" to "authorize" a release of crucial information?

Even though you KNOW there are people experiencing symptoms and hardship in that region . . .

Your innuendo here is:

"full blow"

"buildup

"Blazing"


And so . . . you are insinuating the area is going to explode or something.

You are either withholding - INTENTIONALLY - crucial information that may help people . . .

OR

You are playing a stupid, reckless game.

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g. beck the blaze
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Nation tells Jindal to expand La. sinkhole evacuation area

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hf
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Nation tells Jindal to expand La. sinkhole evacuation area

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hf
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Thanks for the info. About time! Still, I fear It's not enough.
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they depressurized the water table from CSM or CBM.
Methane/oil is escaping from the fractured coal seams.

"fugitive methane" is being released. this is really bad!

From the letter Oct. 3, They reference:
“Technical Measures for the Investigation and Mitigation of Fugitive Methane Hazards in Areas of Coal Mining
[link to new.dhh.louisiana.gov]

From the same document
Page 38:
“3.2.1. “Methane in the Fresh-Water Aquifers of Southwestern Louisiana and Theoretical Explosion Hazards
[link to arblast.osmre.gov]

Interception and Destruction of Fugitive Methane from Coal Bed Methane (CBM) Seeps
[link to v-c-s.org]

“Fugitive emissions arise during the coal production/extraction process whereby previously trapped methane and carbon dioxide gas is released into the atmosphere as coal seams are mined.”
nice trysa=t&rct=j&q=%22fugitive%20methane%22&source=web&cd=3&cad=​rja&ved=0CCsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icmm.com%2Fdocument%2F​2040&ei=W-91ULqMCaKe2AWE7YDQBQ&usg=AFQjCNHLfzGY1a7R3ZpvpSyyDH​lDYLw3tw

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they depressurized the water table from CSM or CBM.
Methane/oil is escaping from the fractured coal seams.

"fugitive methane" is being released. this is really bed

From the letter Oct. 3, They reference:
“Technical Measures for the Investigation and Mitigation of Fugitive Methane Hazards in Areas of Coal Mining
[link to new.dhh.louisiana.gov]

From the same document
Page 38:
“3.2.1. “Methane in the Fresh-Water Aquifers of Southwestern Louisiana and Theoretical Explosion Hazards
[link to arblast.osmre.gov]

Interception and Destruction of Fugitive Methane from Coal Bed Methane (CBM) Seeps
[link to v-c-s.org]

“Fugitive emissions arise during the coal production/extraction process whereby previously trapped methane and carbon dioxide gas is released into the atmosphere as coal seams are mined.”
nice trysa=t&rct=j&q=%22fugitive%20methane%22&source=web&cd=3&cad=​rja&ved=0CCsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icmm.com%2Fdocument%2F​2040&ei=W-91ULqMCaKe2AWE7YDQBQ&usg=AFQjCNHLfzGY1a7R3ZpvpSyyDH​lDYLw3tw
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Same document referenced of Sept 13 letter:
[link to www.dhh.louisiana.gov]

Last Edited by TeamReaper on 10/10/2012 07:20 PM
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4:00 p.m. Sinkhole Profile Available
October 10, 2012



Texas Brine has provided a profile of the sinkhole, with the deepest point being 449 feet. The graphs on the side of the image profile the contour and depths to the deepest point.



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State Scientists: Crude oil may be penetrating aquifer around giant sinkhole — Contamination of aquifer is certainly being looked at… that’s all I can say (VIDEO)
[link to enenews.com] Again, please DO NOT drink the water. hugs
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I live in NC. Just spoke with a friend of mine and she was going away for the weekend. I asked her where to and she said....NEW ORLEANS!!!
I almost fell off my chair!!! I didn't know what the hell to say. I am going to pray for her all weekend. I can't stand the thought of her going there knowing what is going on. And I couldn't really discuss it with her because she has NO CLUE about anything that is going on.
I am sorry to post this here if people will think it is irrelevant but I just needed to vent. I am so upset she is going there. y_sad
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I live in NC. Just spoke with a friend of mine and she was going away for the weekend. I asked her where to and she said....NEW ORLEANS!!!
I almost fell off my chair!!! I didn't know what the hell to say. I am going to pray for her all weekend. I can't stand the thought of her going there knowing what is going on. And I couldn't really discuss it with her because she has NO CLUE about anything that is going on.
I am sorry to post this here if people will think it is irrelevant but I just needed to vent. I am so upset she is going there. y_sad
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and she will go and have fun while you follow this fear porn shill thread and lower your immune system.
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I live in NC. Just spoke with a friend of mine and she was going away for the weekend. I asked her where to and she said....NEW ORLEANS!!!
I almost fell off my chair!!! I didn't know what the hell to say. I am going to pray for her all weekend. I can't stand the thought of her going there knowing what is going on. And I couldn't really discuss it with her because she has NO CLUE about anything that is going on.
I am sorry to post this here if people will think it is irrelevant but I just needed to vent. I am so upset she is going there. y_sad
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and she will go and have fun while you follow this fear porn shill thread and lower your immune system.
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Aren't you running late for your Jackass lesson?
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Good morning All...

Day 3 passes w/ no upheaval in the Bayou, another quiet night for the most part, hope everyone is safe and sound.
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So are we agreeing that this "DAWG" is a fraud? (not the OP, but the one who claimed we had 3 days)? Sorry if this was already answered... playing catch up from yesterday right now :)
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I don't believe it was Dawg that posted that three day post? I could be wrong but I didn't think at the timet the AC number added up?
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The message about "three days" was not posted by any of the Dawgs, East Texas OR the original OP. There is a compilation of new information and Big Dawg will authorize a release of an updated synopsis either tonight or tomorrow morning. And you should expect an update from the ORIGINAL OP very soon as well. This will be followed by some major media coverage, although it will not go 'full blown' into what we've analyzed and discovered. There will be a buildup of information until it is Blazing.
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"Full Blown"
"Build up"
"Blazing"

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Thanks for the diagram Patassa. Is that the shape the cavern was supposed to have? Or are the wider upper sides due to the walls collapsing? I saw other diagrams of a "typical" cavern, but remembered it as something different.

It's a shame the non-registered ACs don't come equipped with the 'ignore' button. If you don't like what's being posted here, GO AWAY! There are lots of other threads that are probably more suited to your juvenile and obnoxious personality.

SkinnyChic - did you ever get into reading that reeaally long doc tht I commented on a while back? Think it was posted by littlemiracle. I'll try to find it again and copy & paste a portion - I think it might explain both the general state of apathy of the population, and maybe the increasingly obnoxious disagreeability of a growing number of internet posters. And, it deals with Venter's specialty, I think...
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And for AC 8588 - I'll include your friend in my prayers and good thoughts, like I've been doing for the folks in south LA for quite a while!
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9565, that is the sinkhole, not the cavern. Yes, the cavern in deep and narrow, supposedly like the shape of a 2 liter bottle.
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Ah, now I see it's you granny. So confused with trying to remmeber folks by numbers LOL.
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Hello everyone. I'm amazed at what this entire post has uncovered and the minds at work here. What a credit to you all.

I am OP. I am the creator of this posting. My original posts were only a few. I was in pain for my home, my way of life, the financial hardships I knew we'd face (and are). But mostly I just wanted someone to care.

I myself am of little importance. I did a job, and am now relocated to another area and working again. I am not affiliated with the "Dawgs" but I know most of the personally. East Texas is an old friend who once worked with Big Dawg. Through East Texas, he got me in contact with Snoopy Dawg (who never posted until recently). The info back and forth was taken over by East Texas and the Dawgs since their field of work is directly related to certain issues at play here. Other Dawgs have been working and doing research, all over the country. You guys have only heard from a few of them. There are hundreds.

The original "updated" synopsis is accurate as far as the info I know and what I've learned. Most of the follow up research has been done by the Dawgs but some things have been pushed in new directions because of things you on this site have uncovered. It is for this reason the Dawgs spent time looking into the bacteriological issue with not only the sinkhole but other areas that are not widely publicized. And they did find a link. Enough of a link to make them believe that yes there is something to it. They are still efforting this, I am told.

Big Dawg has told me who the media player us who will be easing into this story. This will be good since they are great at putting together puzzles. But I would expect a slow buildup until after the election since that is their big focus now.

It's my opinion and that of the Dawgs that there is something catastrophic coming. How soon, not sure but I did not want my family there. Most of the Dawgs have left. Three have stayed, and interestingly - one of them knows who Patassa is. You have not been told the whe story Patassa but you already knew that. That said I don't think Patassa is trying to misinform although I know a couple Dawgs have been agitated by her, but those guys are pissy anyway.

The part of the story which is 'worse' is two-fold. One, the expansion of the sinkhole will get worse but the main issue is what you can't see and isn't even talked about much. It's what is happening in the Gulf. Until more info is forthcoming not much can be said because right now there is certain data that only a few share. In order to get some of this out it needs to circulate a bit to help insulate. Those of you calling others out for not bei g more clear need to stop. These men and women put their families first just like I did, like East Texas did, like several Dawgs did, and like you would. Don't mouth off what you would do until you have to do it.

Big Dawg should have more details tomorrow. You guys are amazing and God bless you.
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Hello everyone. I'm amazed at what this entire post has uncovered and the minds at work here. What a credit to you all.

I am OP. I am the creator of this posting. My original posts were only a few. I was in pain for my home, my way of life, the financial hardships I knew we'd face (and are). But mostly I just wanted someone to care.

I myself am of little importance. I did a job, and am now relocated to another area and working again. I am not affiliated with the "Dawgs" but I know most of the personally. East Texas is an old friend who once worked with Big Dawg. Through East Texas, he got me in contact with Snoopy Dawg (who never posted until recently). The info back and forth was taken over by East Texas and the Dawgs since their field of work is directly related to certain issues at play here. Other Dawgs have been working and doing research, all over the country. You guys have only heard from a few of them. There are hundreds.

The original "updated" synopsis is accurate as far as the info I know and what I've learned. Most of the follow up research has been done by the Dawgs but some things have been pushed in new directions because of things you on this site have uncovered. It is for this reason the Dawgs spent time looking into the bacteriological issue with not only the sinkhole but other areas that are not widely publicized. And they did find a link. Enough of a link to make them believe that yes there is something to it. They are still efforting this, I am told.

Big Dawg has told me who the media player us who will be easing into this story. This will be good since they are great at putting together puzzles. But I would expect a slow buildup until after the election since that is their big focus now.

It's my opinion and that of the Dawgs that there is something catastrophic coming. How soon, not sure but I did not want my family there. Most of the Dawgs have left. Three have stayed, and interestingly - one of them knows who Patassa is. You have not been told the whe story Patassa but you already knew that. That said I don't think Patassa is trying to misinform although I know a couple Dawgs have been agitated by her, but those guys are pissy anyway.

The part of the story which is 'worse' is two-fold. One, the expansion of the sinkhole will get worse but the main issue is what you can't see and isn't even talked about much. It's what is happening in the Gulf. Until more info is forthcoming not much can be said because right now there is certain data that only a few share. In order to get some of this out it needs to circulate a bit to help insulate. Those of you calling others out for not bei g more clear need to stop. These men and women put their families first just like I did, like East Texas did, like several Dawgs did, and like you would. Don't mouth off what you would do until you have to do it.

Big Dawg should have more details tomorrow. You guys are amazing and God bless you.
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so dawg, is the info on this thread true?
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Patassa,

A simple question

Does there seem to be a movenent to the water?
A "vortex" was reported earlier, but any indication if water is
1. circling
2. flowing in
3. flowing out

watch for leaves and sticks/logs that may give an indication of this movement

debris to the center vs debris to the shore.

thank you for your continued efforts, and be safe

dr
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patassa i apologize for thinkin u was a shill.





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