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Ok, I just HAD to peek.

I wondered what the link was between fungus (recent cases) and Craig Venter, or if there even was one.

[link to www.jcvi.org]

If I read this right. Synthia -the first artifical life that reproduced- was created with chemicals, a computer and the genome of a fungus.

Can anyone out there follow my thinking and/or elaborate???????
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Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
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Ok, I just HAD to peek.

I wondered what the link was between fungus (recent cases) and Craig Venter, or if there even was one.

[link to www.jcvi.org]

If I read this right. Synthia -the first artifical life that reproduced- was created with chemicals, a computer and the genome of a fungus.

Can anyone out there follow my thinking and/or elaborate???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743136


Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
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well, the oil industry has a few oil eating microbes in its bag of tricks; but back during the BP disaster one of
these was NOT synthia (in 2010 synthia was still just an
interesting oddity in the laboratory test tube).

other than that, sk, you sound like you have a good
beginning understanding of the big picture of what is happening.
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Ok, I just HAD to peek.

I wondered what the link was between fungus (recent cases) and Craig Venter, or if there even was one.

[link to www.jcvi.org]

If I read this right. Synthia -the first artifical life that reproduced- was created with chemicals, a computer and the genome of a fungus.

Can anyone out there follow my thinking and/or elaborate???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743136


Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
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sk, I understand your line of thinking that Synthia may be a better option than nothing at all but the huge hole in that theory is that neither we nor the creator of this aberration knows exactly what happened after it's introduction into the Macondo Well B and just what mutations have resulted from the presence of both Corexit and radiation from Fukushima playing their respective roles. It's a biological crap shoot and Meningitis may be, just as the sinkhole, the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
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Ok, I just HAD to peek.

I wondered what the link was between fungus (recent cases) and Craig Venter, or if there even was one.

[link to www.jcvi.org]

If I read this right. Synthia -the first artifical life that reproduced- was created with chemicals, a computer and the genome of a fungus.

Can anyone out there follow my thinking and/or elaborate???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743136


Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


well, the oil industry has a few oil eating microbes in its bag of tricks; but back during the BP disaster one of
these was NOT synthia (in 2010 synthia was still just an
interesting oddity in the laboratory test tube).

other than that, sk, you sound like you have a good
beginning understanding of the big picture of what is happening.
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Do you have documentation to show your claim concerning Synthia AC? We, myself and others, know this is not the case so if you can prove your statement please, by all means, do.
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Ok, I just HAD to peek.

I wondered what the link was between fungus (recent cases) and Craig Venter, or if there even was one.

[link to www.jcvi.org]

If I read this right. Synthia -the first artifical life that reproduced- was created with chemicals, a computer and the genome of a fungus.

Can anyone out there follow my thinking and/or elaborate???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743136


Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


well, the oil industry has a few oil eating microbes in its bag of tricks; but back during the BP disaster one of
these was NOT synthia (in 2010 synthia was still just an
interesting oddity in the laboratory test tube).

other than that, sk, you sound like you have a good
beginning understanding of the big picture of what is happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192789

Do you have documentation to show your claim concerning Synthia AC? We, myself and others, know this is not the case so if you can prove your statement please, by all means, do.
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Hmmm, Sin is attacking shill comments on a touchy subject. maybe sin is for real then.
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Interesting article...I, being the skeptical being I am, am not convinced that the destination of this unit is Kuwait. Time will tell.

The Reserve unit, a hazardous material response team, will deploy and be based in Kuwait this fall. They will able to respond in 72-hours, if necessary, to Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear, and Explosive hazard (CBRNE) incidents in 32 counties.
Being prepared for various scenarios and situations that may occur weighs heavily on not only the Soldiers, but on the leadership in charge of their welfare.


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Found a short video of the (NEW?) oil spill in the Gulf from October 5. My apologies if it has been posted before.






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Sure, there is a probable link, we just need to prove it. But on another line of thought perhaps synthia and the problems it creates or could create are better than not using something like synthia to mop up the oil and hydrocarbons released in the gulf. As my thinking is that the problem and blow out were intentional for releasing the building pressure and as a preventative measure, to what could have been a major catastrophe. Just a possible explanation. So it has taken two plus years for the pressure to rebuild and we are seeing the result of this in the form of leaks and fracturing of the ocean floor in the gulf and methane being released through the earths crust in a various of locations on dry land. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


well, the oil industry has a few oil eating microbes in its bag of tricks; but back during the BP disaster one of
these was NOT synthia (in 2010 synthia was still just an
interesting oddity in the laboratory test tube).

other than that, sk, you sound like you have a good
beginning understanding of the big picture of what is happening.
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Do you have documentation to show your claim concerning Synthia AC? We, myself and others, know this is not the case so if you can prove your statement please, by all means, do.
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Hmmm, Sin is attacking shill comments on a touchy subject. maybe sin is for real then.
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
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Found a short video of the (NEW?) oil spill in the Gulf from October 5. My apologies if it has been posted before.






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Nice Paa Tal, ty...now if we could just get our own samples of said "sheen" to be analyzed by a non-biased party we may get concrete answers.
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for those interested in the meningitis outbreak:

it just got worse, infection due to an ankle injection.

comments made by CDC:

"This is new territory for public health and the clinical community"

"the longest delay was found to be 42 days, with Park emphasizing the CDC does not yet know what the longest time gap will be"

"Weber told reporters that patients who received these injections will need to be vigilant for months afterwards to see if they've developed an infection"

"CDC: Tests may not detect meningitis fungus"

"contaminated steroid could have been given as early as May 21"

"Because the ranges of pathogens associated with this outbreak may not have been fully determined"

Thread: Meningits outbreak just got way worse
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allow me to translate thumbs

we have no idea what we're doing. The incubation period could be any time between 0 days and 1 year. Our tests suck, and cannot be relied upon. And it's possible that it's not just the steroid injection.....could be any drug on the market....but we're not sure yet.
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Let me interpret. After the spinal tap, the fluid goes to the lab. There, a cell count, glucose, protein, culture, and gram stain is done; plus, other weird tests that the doctor orders. The gram stain is not the stain of choice for fungus. Lactose phenyl cotton blue is. Most labs do not have this stain available. If the fungus is not present in large numbers it can easily be missed on the stain.

Any bacteria will grow in 48 hours. If there is no growth after a 48 hour period, the plates are tossed. Must hospital labs do not do fungal cultures. Those are sent to a reference lab where they are held for 6 weeks. Before now the only fungus one would expect in a CSF is Crytoccocus which is usually in a yeast form.

Again, these are not fungus that normally cause menningitis. If a aspergillus was seen on a plate, before this outbreak, it would have been thought to be a contaiminate.
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
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Lol, thank you for the support, fyi I'm all man...the lady you may be referring to is RadChick, my partner in crime, hehe. <3
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Just saw on Fox. House destroyed in Denver. People said they smelled gas. No further details. Related?
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Check out the earthquakes in Venezuela. I remember at the time of DWH blowout that it was reported the vein of oil that was spewing also ran to Venezuela. I beth they are having toruble with sinkholes, methane there also.
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[link to www.anabolicsmall.com]

High doses of anabolic steroids reduce the amounts of immune
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them may make a person more likely to develop a serious infection.

Steroid injection can carry many kinds of bacteria and viruses
past the protective skin and into the blood, causing infection.

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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
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Lol, thank you for the support, fyi I'm all man...the lady you may be referring to is RadChick, my partner in crime, hehe. <3
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keep up the good work everyone! hf I see the trolls and shills are back in full force. I know...hard not to respond...try your best. Clearly it means we are getting closer to the big picture! SiniXster, sorry you seem to be getting the most attacks...even when you don't post! Lol. SkinnyChic.
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Just saw on Fox. House destroyed in Denver. People said they smelled gas. No further details. Related?
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Related? The problem lies therein AC, we really have no idea how far reaching this situation is. There are many, many unexplained events that may be tied to this, we need an all-seeing eye to figure the whole damned thing out. We may have only scratched the surface when it comes to the affected areas.
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
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Lol, thank you for the support, fyi I'm all man...the lady you may be referring to is RadChick, my partner in crime, hehe. <3
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keep up the good work everyone! hf I see the trolls and shills are back in full force. I know...hard not to respond...try your best. Clearly it means we are getting closer to the big picture! SiniXster, sorry you seem to be getting the most attacks...even when you don't post! Lol. SkinnyChic.
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Lol, thanx SkinnyC, I love ruffling feathers, muahahahahahahhhhhhh!!!
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14779720

Lol, thank you for the support, fyi I'm all man...the lady you may be referring to is RadChick, my partner in crime, hehe. <3
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keep up the good work everyone! hf I see the trolls and shills are back in full force. I know...hard not to respond...try your best. Clearly it means we are getting closer to the big picture! SiniXster, sorry you seem to be getting the most attacks...even when you don't post! Lol. SkinnyChic.
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Edited for dbl post...
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I'm as real as they come AC, I put my life in harms way, as do others I know, to dig for the truth and bring it to light, no matter what teh cost. We invest a lot of time and our well being and ask nothing in return other than willing ears that want to listen, learn and survive. rockon
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To all of you who honestly think this lady is a shill, well, clearly you haven't been here long... or not very involved at least :) (and by HERE I mean GLP.. not just this thread)
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she's a disinformation zombie.
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Check out the earthquakes in Venezuela. I remember at the time of DWH blowout that it was reported the vein of oil that was spewing also ran to Venezuela. I beth they are having toruble with sinkholes, methane there also.
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Yep they have some, this one is from 2010, do not know if there are any more recent.

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Reported to parish officials about 6 a.m., the Thursday morning flare reached a reported 40 feet for about 10 minutes and gradually lowered before going out, Boudreaux said.

Jill McMillan, spokeswoman for Crosstex, said the flaring was an emergency response mechanism related to Crosstex’s Cavern No. 2, which is closer to the sinkhole of the company’s two caverns.

She said company officials are working on why flaring happened.


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They really have no fk'n clue what they're doing or how it will affect the bigger picture...what next, a 40 mile high explosion???
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Reported to parish officials about 6 a.m., the Thursday morning flare reached a reported 40 feet for about 10 minutes and gradually lowered before going out, Boudreaux said.

Jill McMillan, spokeswoman for Crosstex, said the flaring was an emergency response mechanism related to Crosstex’s Cavern No. 2, which is closer to the sinkhole of the company’s two caverns.

She said company officials are working on why flaring happened.


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Thanks.
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Reporter: “You’re getting a bird’s a view of the sinkhole from this morning’s flyover of the site. As you can see it’s significantly larger than when it first appeared at the beginning of August. Earlier this week crews installed 3 vent wells around the Bayou Corne/Grand Bayou area to get a better understanding of what’s causing it to get bigger.”

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OK so what is in cavern #2???? anyone know??

The reason that it flared was likely due to excess pressure. Cause appears unknown but the process safety valve relieved as it should. It probably has some type of pilot ignition system to flare the gas that is relieved. 40 foot is normal a normal flare.
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Just to clarify- a 40 ft flare is a normal flare. IF you have an abnormal operation, that is. Meaning whatever caused that flare to happen is NOT normal and is cause for concern. The fact that it flared 40 ft is not a concern, the emergency response mechanism (likely the pressure relief valve with pilot ignition) did what it was supposed to.

Sorry if I confused anyone.
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OK so what is in cavern #2???? anyone know??

The reason that it flared was likely due to excess pressure. Cause appears unknown but the process safety valve relieved as it should. It probably has some type of pilot ignition system to flare the gas that is relieved. 40 foot is normal a normal flare.
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The butane that they are moving to another cavern in that salt dome..
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Eww, Skinnychick -- your breath stinks.
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