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taniatarn  User ID: 25382431  New Zealand10/14/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New official map of giant sinkhole dimensions shows significant growth (PHOTO) Quoting: Earth Cries [link to enenews.com] Hidden? New official map has largest dimension of sinkhole same color as background — Unable to be seen without manipulating image (PHOTO) [link to enenews.com] State Expert: Over 50,000 gallons of crude oil from giant sinkhole already collected? (PHOTO & VIDEO) [link to enenews.com] Company blamed for disaster now taking weekend off at giant sinkhole — To resume collecting oil Monday [link to enenews.com] I looked at that map and didnt see the dimension in black at all...it was cleverly done and easy to miss that larger width on the image. Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| Patassa User ID: 21916852  United States10/14/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, no, no, no, no. people have been publishing erroneous information about the Texas Brine Cavern and the Napoleon Salt Dome ever since this fiasco started what you have circled in red there is only the little bitty Texas Brine Cavern. and, the Texas brine cavern is only one of many caverns that have been carved out within the Napoleanville Salt Dome. below is a photograph of the actual area of the Napoleanville Salt Dome and it is approx. 1 mile by 3 miles. [link to dnr.louisiana.gov] It's the same map. The red outline IS the salt dome. And yes it is 1 by 3 miles. The cavern is just one of 57 caverns on the dome, and all the way to the left of the red line. Yes, I know that. And I didn't draw the line. GOHSEP did. Stop trolling me. |
| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/14/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if it is relevant but a little too close to current events not to comment... there was a well blowout just off highway 70 in August 2010..here is an image showing the sinkhole location ( on the left of the image ) and the field where the well blowout occurred... [link to imageshack.us] Portas said the well's only engaged blowout preventer failed Aug. 11th, causing a mixture of oil, natural gas and salt water to spew. Both the well's blowout preventers were tested and functioning properly two days prior, according to Portas, who did not say why only one blowout preventer was engaged at the time of the blowout. [link to www.wbrz.com] "From the people who have been around the well itself, it appears there's a lot of sand and a lot of water, which may explain why they've had no success lighting the well," said Waguespack. [link to www.wbrz.com] Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| dr.einstein User ID: 25192789 United States10/14/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, no, no, no, no. people have been publishing erroneous information about the Texas Brine Cavern and the Napoleon Salt Dome ever since this fiasco started what you have circled in red there is only the little bitty Texas Brine Cavern. and, the Texas brine cavern is only one of many caverns that have been carved out within the Napoleanville Salt Dome. below is a photograph of the actual area of the Napoleanville Salt Dome and it is approx. 1 mile by 3 miles. [link to dnr.louisiana.gov] It's the same map. The red outline IS the salt dome. And yes it is 1 by 3 miles. The cavern is just one of 57 caverns on the dome, and all the way to the left of the red line. Yes, I know that. And I didn't draw the line. GOHSEP did. Stop trolling me. hey, look here. if yer gonna put yer stuff out in public yer fair game little buddy. learn to live with it. btw. i was wrong. thanks for disabusing me of my folly. |
| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/14/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if it is relevant but a little too close to current events not to comment... Quoting: taniatarn there was a well blowout just off highway 70 in August 2010..here is an image showing the sinkhole location ( on the left of the image ) and the field where the well blowout occurred... [link to imageshack.us] Portas said the well's only engaged blowout preventer failed Aug. 11th, causing a mixture of oil, natural gas and salt water to spew. Both the well's blowout preventers were tested and functioning properly two days prior, according to Portas, who did not say why only one blowout preventer was engaged at the time of the blowout. [link to www.wbrz.com] "From the people who have been around the well itself, it appears there's a lot of sand and a lot of water, which may explain why they've had no success lighting the well," said Waguespack. [link to www.wbrz.com] Also interesting to note the wording here.. State health officials say at least 14 medical visits for minor health issues have been attributed to a well spewing oil, gas, brine and other material in Paincourtville since a blowout last week. [link to www.katc.com] Perhaps the drilling of this exploratory well is the REAL reason the dome was breached?? Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| dr.einstein User ID: 25192789 United States10/14/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure if it is relevant but a little too close to current events not to comment... Quoting: taniatarn there was a well blowout just off highway 70 in August 2010..here is an image showing the sinkhole location ( on the left of the image ) and the field where the well blowout occurred... [link to imageshack.us] damn this is a huge find! hell yes! a fact that needs to be at the forefront of everyone's considerations. what it proves is that there is DEFINITELY some kind of monster oil and gas reservoir down there! Last Edited by Prof. Einstein on 10/14/2012 07:54 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23790227 United States10/14/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you thinking that all those booms that people keep hearing might be unground explosions that just haven't had a noticable effect above ground? Matt Simmons had said that methane gas expansion can do so at supersonic speed, expanding in volume 7-10x...frozen methane HYDRATES will expand 178x in volume (Nils-Axl-Morner Syndrome)which are a mile thick in the GOM...we have expansion of invasive crude oil in the sinkhole from an unknown source, reactivation of BP leak, and boom events all near fault zones from one side of the country to the other, as well as earthquakes in weird places, especially in LA and now surrounding parishes, as well as GA and TX. It seems like there is pressure from SOMEWHERE...No one knows if these events are related, if they do they probably won't tell us...but if they are, how bad will it get? And my concern is 1) what people are breathing in the area right now (as fumes from crude oil more toxic than mustard gas per Matt Simmons) 2) blast radius if butane cavern explodes and how that will effect other caverns storing radioactive material and other hazardous things 3) subsequent pressure on not only the Mercondo site from possible blast, but the New Madrid Rift (which is capable of very large earthquakes) and 4) Nuke plants in all the effected areas having subsequent meltdowns as a result of 2 & 3. According to Jack Reed's Theory, this would mean every nuke plant from Mexico to Nova Scotia. Jack Reed's theory which makes way more sense than GOM being faultless bowl as USGS says it is: [link to www.aapg.org] BTW a woman posting on my page stated the Glen Falls news report below is total bs from what her electrical journeyman husband said...something MAJOR happened to blow manhole covers off all over the town and damage buildings. He has worked at the underground utility site where the explosion occurred. They live in Glen Falls and have new sinkholes (although small -5 feet in dia or less) all over their property, so does the farmer next to them, appearing since July. [link to poststar.com] Kingsbury is next to GLenns Falls Kingsbury issues boil-water notice 2012-10-11 Kingsbury issues boil-water notice The Post-Star October 11, 2012 2:41 pm KINGSBURY -- A boil-water notice was issued for the entire town of Kingsbury on Thursday after state officials found “disease causing” organisms in the system... Town Supervisor Jim Lindsay said trace amounts of E. coli bacteria were found during a routine town water test. [link to poststar.com]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25450516 United States10/14/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, no, no, no, no. people have been publishing erroneous information about the Texas Brine Cavern and the Napoleon Salt Dome ever since this fiasco started what you have circled in red there is only the little bitty Texas Brine Cavern. and, the Texas brine cavern is only one of many caverns that have been carved out within the Napoleanville Salt Dome. below is a photograph of the actual area of the Napoleanville Salt Dome and it is approx. 1 mile by 3 miles. [link to dnr.louisiana.gov] It's the same map. The red outline IS the salt dome. And yes it is 1 by 3 miles. The cavern is just one of 57 caverns on the dome, and all the way to the left of the red line. Yes, I know that. And I didn't draw the line. GOHSEP did. Stop trolling me. hey, look here. if yer gonna put yer stuff out in public yer fair game little buddy. learn to live with it. btw. i was wrong. thanks for disabusing me of my folly. This "dr e" as he proudly co-opts, steals & soils a name of greatness & is trolling every LA thread. Look at what he is advocating on the "why the well in the Gulf cannot be Stopped thread...": Thread: Why the Well in the Gulf cannot be stopped - What you didn't know about the pressure (Page 3) yes. and the only solution to this thing is that BP and Transocean be allowed to drill 5 or 6 wells into the Macondo Reservoir and draw out all of the oil, which will reduce the pressure and stop the leak. Quoting: dr.einstein Ok dr e, can we say beware of the quick fix? A company man has to tow the line huh - who cares how many people may die? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4512574 United States10/14/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: SINKHOLE ...OIL IN The aquifer system TO BE IN 7 STATES ??? COMMENTS ABUZZ ON THE WEB And the Dawgs are right again. |
| dr.einstein User ID: 25192789 United States10/14/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes. Quoting: dr.einstein and the only solution to this thing is to let BP and Transocean be allowed to drill 5 or 6 wells into the Macondo Reservoir and draw out all of the oil, which will reduce the pressure and stop the leak. Company man alert, he's spewing his load on every LA thread. Beware the quick fix. I think every one here is a lot smarter than to buy your line... I don't know, man. I mean, you've got a pressure problem, right? Have you got a better idea? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25450516 United States10/14/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes. Quoting: dr.einstein and the only solution to this thing is to let BP and Transocean be allowed to drill 5 or 6 wells into the Macondo Reservoir and draw out all of the oil, which will reduce the pressure and stop the leak. Company man alert, he's spewing his load on every LA thread. Beware the quick fix. I think every one here is a lot smarter than to buy your line... I don't know, man. I mean, you've got a pressure problem, right? Have you got a better idea? What happens when these five or six other wells cannot be capped either, something the pressure thread was trying to address? I don't know the solution, but alot of wise people here who don't co-opt the name Einstein - They are pondering the solutions, but in the mean time, those people in the LA danger zone need to be relocated at the expense of the oil man and politicians who allowed this mess. Their safety is the first issue. The second step is what every one here beside dr e is trying to do, consider all the variables(and there are many)and proceed cautiously... Thinking before you act is a wise course of action. |
| dr.einstein User ID: 25192789 United States10/14/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450516 Company man alert, he's spewing his load on every LA thread. Beware the quick fix. I think every one here is a lot smarter than to buy your line... I don't know, man. I mean, you've got a pressure problem, right? Have you got a better idea? What happens when these five or six other wells cannot be capped either, something the pressure thread was trying to address? I don't know the solution, but alot of wise people here who don't co-opt the name Einstein - They are pondering the solutions, but in the mean time, those people in the LA danger zone need to be relocated at the expense of the oil man and politicians who allowed this mess. Their safety is the first issue. The second step is what every one here beside dr e is trying to do, consider all the variables(and there are many)and proceed cautiously... Thinking before you act is a wise course of action. well, i just thought it out for you. BP and Transocean are the only ones on the planet with the technology to fix this thing.... maybe you should start planning a "welcome home" parade through downtown New Orleans for them :) (we're talking about the leaking runaway macondo well (2010) |
| Let Freedom Ring User ID: 25343005 United States10/14/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just watched the Jesse Ventura video about the planned depopulation of the Gulf - this is what I came up with: BP Macondo drilling was done to breach a salt cavern - they drilled a lateral line and breached the cavern, then blew the rig up. Waited for nature to take its course. The oil from Macondo is now filling the cavern and causing the sink hole. (by the way, every sink hole I have ever seen was a gaping hole, not a filled cavern) People will have to leave their beloved homes, as the area is no longer inhabitable. BP and other oil companies will move in and extract the now easily retrievable oil. They don't even have to drill for it now. Only explanation for how the same oil found at BP Macondo is now in the salt cavern. |
| Tropicalgirl User ID: 1235443 United States10/14/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just watched the Jesse Ventura video about the planned depopulation of the Gulf - this is what I came up with: Quoting: Let Freedom Ring BP Macondo drilling was done to breach a salt cavern - they drilled a lateral line and breached the cavern, then blew the rig up. Waited for nature to take its course. The oil from Macondo is now filling the cavern and causing the sink hole. (by the way, every sink hole I have ever seen was a gaping hole, not a filled cavern) People will have to leave their beloved homes, as the area is no longer inhabitable. BP and other oil companies will move in and extract the now easily retrievable oil. They don't even have to drill for it now. Only explanation for how the same oil found at BP Macondo is now in the salt cavern. So Freedom, in that scenario, "they" would not be worried about an explosive event? The goal being a slow poisoning of the area so that the people move out, but no massive destruction of the coastal areas? And, if this is part of the long term agenda -is it under their control? Thanks for your assessment of the situation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4512574 United States10/14/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just watched the Jesse Ventura video about the planned depopulation of the Gulf - this is what I came up with: Quoting: Let Freedom Ring BP Macondo drilling was done to breach a salt cavern - they drilled a lateral line and breached the cavern, then blew the rig up. Waited for nature to take its course. The oil from Macondo is now filling the cavern and causing the sink hole. (by the way, every sink hole I have ever seen was a gaping hole, not a filled cavern) People will have to leave their beloved homes, as the area is no longer inhabitable. BP and other oil companies will move in and extract the now easily retrievable oil. They don't even have to drill for it now. Only explanation for how the same oil found at BP Macondo is now in the salt cavern. ....which is exactly what the Dawgs have been warning about for weeks. Even said testing had been done but they won't release results. |
| Tropicalgirl User ID: 1235443 United States10/14/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Alert Oklahoma! - Sewer & Water Mains Breaking, Sewage Smell Coming from Toilets Statewide Can all the events on GLP today, related to explosions, boil orders, underground explosions be coincidental! Seems unlikely to me.... |
| Let Freedom Ring User ID: 25343005 United States10/14/2012 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tropical Girl, they usually go for the slow kill. I don't know if there will be a huge explosion in the Gulf with so much off venting at the pressure points. I suspect the "earthquake" in Canada was an underground explosion. So many witnesses said there was a rumble, then the shaking, then a "Boom!" AC4512574 - yes, the Dawgs have been right on everything, but I wasn't clear on HOW the salt dome was breached in relation to Macondo. The scenario I described is the only one that makes sense to me. Remember the calls from the crew to family members before the explosion? They knew something was going on, but said they had to get off the rig before they told their family. They never had the chance. |
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| Tropicalgirl User ID: 1235443 United States10/15/2012 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SC - now we've Yellowstone - Canada, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, that is a lot of shaking. Things are feeling very unsettled, maybe its just me, but I don't think so! |
| SkinnyChic User ID: 7020892 United States10/15/2012 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Freedom, I don't know about the slow version this time, the arrogance of what is being done to grab the resources, well, it wouldn't surprise me if Mother Earth kicks back - hard. Quoting: Tropicalgirl SC - now we've Yellowstone - Canada, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, that is a lot of shaking. Things are feeling very unsettled, maybe its just me, but I don't think so! Not just you!  |
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| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/15/2012 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010... "Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome" [link to enenews.com] Last Edited by taniatarn on 10/15/2012 05:05 AM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/15/2012 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CONFIRMED....Napoleonville sits on top of a large Gas and OIl Field...with lots of 'quality prospects' according to Quoting: taniatarn Golden Gate Petroleum in 2010... "Below Sinkhole: 500 billion cubic feet of gas, 200 million gallons of oil estimated in Napoleonville Salt Dome" [link to enenews.com] Officials admit crude oil and methane are coming from massive underground formation below sinkhole (DIAGRAM & VIDEO) [link to enenews.com] Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/15/2012 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is video of the well blowout next to Highway 70 in 2010 Quoting: taniatarn [link to www.wbrz.com] Not sure if it is relevant but a little too close to current events not to comment... Quoting: taniatarn there was a well blowout just off highway 70 in August 2010..here is an image showing the sinkhole location ( on the left of the image ) and the field where the well blowout occurred... [link to imageshack.us] Portas said the well's only engaged blowout preventer failed Aug. 11th, causing a mixture of oil, natural gas and salt water to spew. Both the well's blowout preventers were tested and functioning properly two days prior, according to Portas, who did not say why only one blowout preventer was engaged at the time of the blowout. [link to www.wbrz.com] "From the people who have been around the well itself, it appears there's a lot of sand and a lot of water, which may explain why they've had no success lighting the well," said Waguespack. [link to www.wbrz.com] Also interesting to note the wording here.. State health officials say at least 14 medical visits for minor health issues have been attributed to a well spewing oil, gas, brine and other material in Paincourtville since a blowout last week. [link to www.katc.com] Perhaps the drilling of this exploratory well is the REAL reason the dome was breached?? Also interesting to note the wording here.. State health officials say at least 14 medical visits for minor health issues have been attributed to a well spewing oil, gas, brine and other material in Paincourtville since a blowout last week. [link to www.katc.com] Perhaps the drilling of this exploratory well is the REAL reason the dome was breached?? Okay- so admissions today as to what is in the area give a pretty good idea that the area is rich in resources so to speak..so taking in to account that the well blew out in 2010 BEFORE Texas Brine suspected their cavern was compromised...and the well was not only spewing oil and gas but BRINE as well... this well may be the original cause of the cavern being breached. Look at this picture..and then imagine drilling on an angle and...whoopsie.... [link to www.ggpl.com.au] Last Edited by taniatarn on 10/15/2012 05:23 AM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| taniatarn User ID: 25382431 New Zealand10/15/2012 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ultimately it means that there are people with BIG MONEY invested in the resources in this area...waiting for a payout. They will still do anything they can to get their moneys worth. But the gas is going to their problem. And the fact that this problem has been growing silently underground since 2010....think about it...the cavern had 1500 ft of hydrocarbon /shale mix at the bottom....that means the cavern has accumulated material that is now over 470 metres deep!... Thats NINE AND A HALF olympic swimming pools stacked length for length one on top of the other... Last Edited by taniatarn on 10/15/2012 05:34 AM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
| REMJR1 User ID: 2782120 United States10/15/2012 08:41 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ReVbo™ I don't know, man. I mean, you've got a pressure problem, right? Have you got a better idea? What happens when these five or six other wells cannot be capped either, something the pressure thread was trying to address? I don't know the solution, but alot of wise people here who don't co-opt the name Einstein - They are pondering the solutions, but in the mean time, those people in the LA danger zone need to be relocated at the expense of the oil man and politicians who allowed this mess. Their safety is the first issue. The second step is what every one here beside dr e is trying to do, consider all the variables(and there are many)and proceed cautiously... Thinking before you act is a wise course of action. well, i just thought it out for you. BP and Transocean are the only ones on the planet with the technology to fix this thing.... maybe you should start planning a "welcome home" parade through downtown New Orleans for them :) (we're talking about the leaking runaway macondo well (2010) "BP and Transocean are the only ones on the planet with the technology to fix this thing...." Hmmm....now where have we heard that one before & where did it get us? Fuck what the flag by my name says, I'm from Texas! Wake up & smell reality. I have to much blood in my caffeine stream! "Oh look--another basement dwelling loser who ain't had pussy since pussy had him." Beans.N.Rice “The thing about smart mother fuckers is that sometimes, they sound like crazy mother fuckers to stupid mother fuckers...” Robert Kirkman |
| khoisansun User ID: 25602388  South Africa10/15/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces. Carl Sagan Read more at [link to www.brainyquote.com] I wish Harmony, Love, Truth and Justice for all my brothers and sisters. With the United forces of the silent vibrations of our thoughts, we are strong, healthy and happy thus making a link of universal fraternity.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12487521 United States10/15/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The strategic alliance between Synthetic Genomics, Inc (SGI) and ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company (EMRE), represents a comprehensive research and development agreement to explore the most efficient and cost effective ways to produce next generation biofuels using photosynthetic algae. Algae can be grown using land and water unsuitable for crop plant or food production, unlike some other first and second generation biofuel feedstocks. Algae yield greater volumes of biofuel per acre of production than other crop plant -based biofuel sources. Algae could yield more than 2000 gallons of fuel per acre of production per year. Approximate yields for other fuel sources are far lower. Examples include: Palm - 650 gallons per acre / year Sugar cane - 450 gallons per acre / year Corn - 250 gallons per acre / year Soy - 50 gallons per acre / year [link to www.syntheticgenomics.com] Could this be the plan for the future Gulf coast states? Algae Farms?  |
