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They just called up ALL the guard
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Source and more information please.
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So people want to know what else, it's just a sinkhole right? Chew on this Folks and see where it leads you...

Look at the years and hundreds of thousands of miles of fracked earth under our feet on the CONUS. Look at the poisoning of the aquifers by the un-monitored use of toxic chemicals. Look at all the souls all over the country dying from cancer and neural disorders from those chemicals w/ no recourse for medical help or even a way out. Look at the government making all the land grabs on water sheds all over the country. Look at ppl being jailed for collecting rainwater on their own property. Look at all the Presidential Executive Orders that have been signed in the middle of the night, on Sundays, on holidays, in secret, giving our government the right to take over everything in your everyday life and the right to put you in an internment camp w/out rhyme or reason. Look at what is happening in LA and multiply that by the entire Eastern CONUS, Michigan down to FLA and the entire east coast.

They've poisoned (I haven't even brought nuclear waste into the mix yet) the entire water supply and destroyed the ground beneath our feet, they've turned into TOXIC SWISS CHEESE and it's all coming down.

THEY CONTROL THE [GMO] FOOD, THE WATER AND THE POPULATION LEVELS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND WAITING FOR THE BIG KABOOM AND THEIR HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER!!! OPEN YOUR EYES FOLKS!!!

Remember look at the big picture?

The WAR ON YOU is for WATER and WATER IS LIFE...your and your children's lives and guess what? There isn't going to be any unless you can purchase it from them. THIS IS COMING and time is up.

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable.

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From what I can tell a lot of posters here agree with what SiniXter has said. The research has been done (and continues) but it seems to me that it is now the time we should be preparing ourselves and our family for what is, unquestionably, truly "life changing" events.

My family has made preparations...we have a plan...we are aware that some may not survive or may have to be left behind. We have discussed whether we hunker down or flee. We have what we believe to be ample food, supplies and arms with plenty of ammo. Take care of yourselves and your family.
~Marsute~
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my guess is that the "earthquake" was a jolt from within
the "cavern" rock structure, meaning: collapse is imminent.
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
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Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.

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This just in...

It has been reported to us that there was a sharp tremor recorded by USGS monitors at approximately 9:06 last night. The tremor was large enough that the body wave phases could easily be identified. The preliminary location was just SE of Oxy #3 cavern at a depth of 500m. There is no additional information specific to this seismic activity at this time.

[link to enenews.com]
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That's not good.
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Opposite direction they thought it would be moving. Thats more towards the salt dome center.
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dr,

Any thoughts on the effect if they pump a plasticizer into the wells? Its made to make things more fluid.

I could actually see them using this to make the extraction process easier and then just seperating it back out later.

Lots of possibilities here.
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
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Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

Just FYI here, the plasticizer found is used in hydraulic fracking, what does that tell you?
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dr,

Any thoughts on the effect if they pump a plasticizer into the wells? Its made to make things more fluid.

I could actually see them using this to make the extraction process easier and then just seperating it back out later.

Lots of possibilities here.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

I'm leaning towards it's been there all along, we are going to find the same compound in the poisoned aquifers same as every other well poisoned by fracking.
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Well who ever thought fracking was a good idea?
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Has this guy ever had anything to do with either DWH or The napolian salt dome.

Thread: British oil executive 'assassinated'

Nicholas Mockford
 Quoting: alexisj9


posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526



Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

Just FYI here, the plasticizer found is used in hydraulic fracking, what does that tell you?
 Quoting: siniXster


But the oil is thermagenic oil with this fracking plasticizer in it? I'm confused now. One of the scientists seemed relieved yesterday that the source of oil was a limited source? But thermagenic implies oil from below the sea floor?

Did it sort of pick up the plasticizer from the fracking on the way up to the surface?

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Well who ever thought fracking was a good idea?
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For that matter who ever though storing anything in a salt dome other than salt was a good idea?????

Maybe even salt was not a good idea.
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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That link was posted 10/24... Pg 206..
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?
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posted on the other thread, too

[link to www.channelsailing.be]

[link to www.apps2010shanghai.com]

Phthalate Plasticizer Alternatives: Facts versus Fiction
Nicholas P. Mockford
Marketing Technical Support Manager, Intermediates Technology
ExxonMobil Chemical Europe Inc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maybe plasticizers are linked to morgellans, who knows

on the bigger picture
in my humble opinion, this guy is a casualty of a war going one that we do not see
industry/bankers/private armies/international interests are all at war. the CNBC guy, the weird brit wacked in the campground in france, breitbart, matt s, the list goes on and on

look at it this way, we are the people who live in the "action movie" but can't see the action movie part
only pieces and parts of the whole. think tanks, abc groups, corp board rooms, and back door political meetings are all places we will never be the fly on the wall of. so all we can do is observe, and act upon things in our direct control

now with that said.....

dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22813526



Keep in mind, then chemical analysis done of the oil in the sinkhole contained plasticizer. I posted a while back with the name of the chemical compound...i will find it later when i am back at the house.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

Just FYI here, the plasticizer found is used in hydraulic fracking, what does that tell you?
 Quoting: siniXster


But the oil is thermagenic oil with this fracking plasticizer in it? I'm confused now. One of the scientists seemed relieved yesterday that the source of oil was a limited source? But thermagenic implies oil from below the sea floor?

Did it sort of pick up the plasticizer from the fracking on the way up to the surface?
 Quoting: allisaTX

Cross-contamination from other fracking wells in the area I would suspect or possibly from the hole they drilled near the dome. It's all connected, swiss cheese.
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?
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Do they use it to maneuver the oil/gas around in the ground?

Trying to sound educated when I'm sure as hell not. Do they use it to push the oil/gas to the top to make it easier to mine?
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?
 Quoting: allisaTX


Well at a guess, may be they are trying to control the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, not sure about global warming and all that, but our planet hid it's CO2 in the ground for a reason. We need some for the plants and trees to breath, but we don't need to much.
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
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Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?
 Quoting: allisaTX


Well at a guess, may be they are trying to control the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, not sure about global warming and all that, but our planet hid it's CO2 in the ground for a reason. We need some for the plants and trees to breath, but we don't need to much.
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I thought about that, but that is not practical. They would not be able to remove enough to matter.

Everything industry does involves short cuts. This gas may be a short cut to removing stuff from the ground.
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Morning... Just wondering why nobody seem's to read between the lines.. 70 miles away.. Whole area fracked. what is CO2's purpose with oil and Methane? Hummm....

Morning.... Something else that wants to make you say HUMMM?

[link to www.usea.org] Posted 10/??..
 Quoting: shawnerz


Why is this being done? Why would the government store CO2 like this?
 Quoting: allisaTX


Well at a guess, may be they are trying to control the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, not sure about global warming and all that, but our planet hid it's CO2 in the ground for a reason. We need some for the plants and trees to breath, but we don't need to much.
 Quoting: alexisj9


I thought about that, but that is not practical. They would not be able to remove enough to matter.

Everything industry does involves short cuts. This gas may be a short cut to removing stuff from the ground.
 Quoting: allisaTX


yup it's called "the carbon sequestration program": they
are capturing waste CO2 from industrial processes and
pumping it deep into the crust... kind'a like sweeping
the dirt under the rug.
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SNIP
And is not ExxonMobil actually American?
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Exxon Mobil Corporation (NYSE: XOM) or ExxonMobil, is an American multinational oil and gas corporation. It is a direct descendant of John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil company, and was formed on November 30, 1999, by the merger of Exxon and Mobil. Its headquarters are in Irving, Texas. It is affiliated with Imperial Oil which operates in Canada.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Someone just posted this in the other thread, I didn't know that Exxon Mobil was based in East Texas. So posting it here for anyone else who didn't know.

Not sure if that is significant in any way.
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State Expert: Crude oil and gas now coming up all over around giant sinkhole — Swamps bubbling back in the trees — Started a few days ago… it’s a good thing (VIDEO)

[link to enenews.com]


Hmmm...don't know if that is a good thing...
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New Operational Situation Summary

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Nothing much new.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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SNIP
And is not ExxonMobil actually American?
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Exxon Mobil Corporation (NYSE: XOM) or ExxonMobil, is an American multinational oil and gas corporation. It is a direct descendant of John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil company, and was formed on November 30, 1999, by the merger of Exxon and Mobil. Its headquarters are in Irving, Texas. It is affiliated with Imperial Oil which operates in Canada.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Someone just posted this in the other thread, I didn't know that Exxon Mobil was based in East Texas. So posting it here for anyone else who didn't know.

Not sure if that is significant in any way.
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Alright, so no it is not American, it is starting to sound like it is controlled by the UN or the royal crown? And it appears they spent a great deal of money to discredit global warming and Al Gore, so I don't know where this is going any longer, however storing or hiding CO2 by our government in the ground is strange.

sheep was Al Gore right? I thought he was a goofball and global warming is a hoax??

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State Expert: Crude oil and gas now coming up all over around giant sinkhole — Swamps bubbling back in the trees — Started a few days ago… it’s a good thing (VIDEO)

[link to enenews.com]


Hmmm...don't know if that is a good thing...
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This would be straight out of the Ann Coulter playbook......remember? Radiation....a little is a "good thing"?

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SNIP
And is not ExxonMobil actually American?
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Exxon Mobil Corporation (NYSE: XOM) or ExxonMobil, is an American multinational oil and gas corporation. It is a direct descendant of John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil company, and was formed on November 30, 1999, by the merger of Exxon and Mobil. Its headquarters are in Irving, Texas. It is affiliated with Imperial Oil which operates in Canada.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Someone just posted this in the other thread, I didn't know that Exxon Mobil was based in East Texas. So posting it here for anyone else who didn't know.

Not sure if that is significant in any way.
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Might be, maybe poster East Texas is from Exxon.
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I thought about that, but that is not practical. They would not be able to remove enough to matter.

Everything industry does involves short cuts. This gas may be a short cut to removing stuff from the ground.
 Quoting: allisaTX


yup it's called "the carbon sequestration program": they
are capturing waste CO2 from industrial processes and
pumping it deep into the crust... kind'a like sweeping
the dirt under the rug.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


How Fracking Could Disrupt CO2 Sequestration

[link to stateimpact.npr.org]
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I thought about that, but that is not practical. They would not be able to remove enough to matter.

Everything industry does involves short cuts. This gas may be a short cut to removing stuff from the ground.
 Quoting: allisaTX


yup it's called "the carbon sequestration program": they
are capturing waste CO2 from industrial processes and
pumping it deep into the crust... kind'a like sweeping
the dirt under the rug.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


How Fracking Could Disrupt CO2 Sequestration

[link to stateimpact.npr.org]
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


This article seems to be asking the wrong question.

The question is: Should CO2 be injected in the ground to hide it. Hide it from what I am not sure really.

I am glad Citronelle, LA where the government is injecting tons of this into the earth there, is not 20 min away from Assumption. It is 4 hours away, but still that area clearly is being used experimentally and with little care for those who live there.

[link to www.usea.org]

(actually this looks more like a government/private partnership.....it is not a .gov address)

Thanks for your info...hf

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I didn't enter this thread until around the 140s or so, but I know a lot of you are experts and was wondering if any of the "Dawg" posts gave any clues that might be about Hurricane Sandy?
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I thought about that, but that is not practical. They would not be able to remove enough to matter.

Everything industry does involves short cuts. This gas may be a short cut to removing stuff from the ground.
 Quoting: allisaTX


yup it's called "the carbon sequestration program": they
are capturing waste CO2 from industrial processes and
pumping it deep into the crust... kind'a like sweeping
the dirt under the rug.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


How Fracking Could Disrupt CO2 Sequestration

[link to stateimpact.npr.org]
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


This article seems to be asking the wrong question.

The question is: Should CO2 be injected in the ground to hide it. Hide it from what I am not sure really.

I am glad Citronelle, LA where the government is injecting tons of this into the earth there, is not 20 min away from Assumption. It is 4 hours away, but still that area clearly is being used experimentally and with little care for those who live there.

[link to www.usea.org]

(actually this looks more like a government/private partnership.....it is not a .gov address)

Thanks for your info...hf
 Quoting: allisaTX


I live about two miles northeast of there. (Citronelle, AL being the 'there') That's extremely disturbing.
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