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If the Moon landing was real: How the hell did they take off FROM the moon?

 
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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Um, 1 man on the LEM and 2 men on the lunar module. 3 - 1 = 2 men on the Moon dummy.
 Quoting: Top Hat


Dummy? OK. LEM = Lunar Excursion Module. That's what landed on the moon, with two men.

Command module orbited with one man.

At least you could have googled LEM.
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Show me the math that proves what you claim OP.
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please. driving around in an offroad moon vehicle. nuff said.
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Wow..

There are some legitimate questions about he moon landing.

But when people who obviously failed high school physics try to make scientific arguments. They just add fuel to the ones that claim it was all done as it's stated.

Please people, if you are a science flop, don't try to figure it out... you only make things worse.
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Taking off from earth and taking off from the moon is most probably two entirely different things.

Its called Gravity!

On earth we have gravity to overcome while on the moon the gravity is much less which means the propellant needed would be much less. I.e no rockets just a small controlled explosion to get off the surface..Then inertia would take care of the rest.
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Show me the math that proves what you claim OP.
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please. driving around in an offroad moon vehicle. nuff said.
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Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins made the trip too.
Out of 3 co-conspirators one of them would have to spill the beans?
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580


While im not saying the moon landing is real or fake taking off from the moons surface is easy due to the low gravity. and im sure they did it with small explosives on the base of the lander that shot the passenger but up in to orbit very slowly.

INSANELY LOW GRAV = LITTLE FORCE REQUIRED
 Quoting: Raido


there's plenty of info out there debunking the moon landing... do a youtube search.

I am convinced of this:

we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union
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08/26/2012 11:53 AM
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Not entirely sure, but I think most astronauts are rocket scientists.
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WRONG, they were professional actors ROFL
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580


Ummm...there were two men in the LEM when it lifted off from the moon, not three. The third was in the orbiting command module.

It did it with sixteen Reaction Control System (RCS) thrusters, 5.17 pounds (2.35 kg) each) mounted in four quads
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ok.... 2 men.

not much difference though; what about the technology of the time? the fuel required would have been hundreds of lbs, no? to take off from point zero. And where is the rocketry apparatus? who built it?
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"OK, 2 men". Hahahaha. And you expect anyone to take you seriously???

Anyway, and I know this will challenge your intellect:

The propellant mass for the ascent stage was 2,353 kg of Aerozine 50 fuel / nitrogen tetroxide oxidizer. Thrust generated was 16,000 N.

No I know you are nowhere near capable of doing the math, but if you do a calculation for the thrust and burn required for lunary escape velocity, that is more than enough to do the job.
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And since you asked, the APS engine was build by Ball Aerospace.
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Lets start with something simple... Do you understand gravity?
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ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting?
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Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year?
Why?
The moon is fucking DEAD.
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
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Lets start with something simple... Do you understand gravity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2011675


ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580


Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year?
Why?
The moon is fucking DEAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821


What he said!

Dunno why any govmnt would pour a shitload of money into a project just to collect MORE dead rocks.

There is nothing of interest on the moon. Thats why they dont go back..
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Lets start with something simple... Do you understand gravity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2011675


ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580


Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year?
Why?
The moon is fucking DEAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821


What he said!

Dunno why any govmnt would pour a shitload of money into a project just to collect MORE dead rocks.

There is nothing of interest on the moon. Thats why they dont go back..
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Yet mars.
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
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Just because you're not smart enough to wrap your tiny brain around it doesn't mean it couldn't be done.

No one said it was easy but it was quite doable, all the problems were solved, and we got it done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821


Yes, im no rocket scientist.

But it took hundreds of men with 1000's of lb's of fuel to get off the earth... and centuries of trial and error...

yet we send up 3 men with NO REAL firsthand knowledge of lunar aerodynamics? just theory? doesnt hold water.
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Shill fail
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The moon is made of cheeze so they ate the cheeze under the rocket and that caused them to float in space and back to earth.

Duh.
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They had a diehard Battery!
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580


Ummm...there were two men in the LEM when it lifted off from the moon, not three. The third was in the orbiting command module.

It did it with sixteen Reaction Control System (RCS) thrusters, 5.17 pounds (2.35 kg) each) mounted in four quads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22629621


ok.... 2 men.

not much difference though; what about the technology of the time? the fuel required would have been hundreds of lbs, no? to take off from point zero. And where is the rocketry apparatus? who built it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580



"OK, 2 men". Hahahaha. And you expect anyone to take you seriously???

Anyway, and I know this will challenge your intellect:

The propellant mass for the ascent stage was 2,353 kg of Aerozine 50 fuel / nitrogen tetroxide oxidizer. Thrust generated was 16,000 N.

No I know you are nowhere near capable of doing the math, but if you do a calculation for the thrust and burn required for lunary escape velocity, that is more than enough to do the job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22629621


I dont buy the elitist dictatorship representation of facts. They have lost all credibility.

They have exploited the good faith of the people; now I do not believe ANYTHING they "dictate"; not thier clearly corrupt history, not their science, not their media.
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We are sending robots to mars and people still don't think we could have sent people to the moon?
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WHY HAVENT WE gone back then? its over 40 years old technology, the costs in the times would/should be MICROCOSM of what it was... hell, we should have cities up there....

i call bullshit on the moon landing. We would have gone back; yet most modern space operations have been ORBITING, and shuttes... the rea tech. 'man on the moon' is a soviet directed gov psy op.
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Don't think there is anything worthwhile to go back to at present. If oil was found then that would be a different.
We will pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
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We went to the moon twice in 1969, twice in 1971 and twice in 1972. damn. this is one helluv'uh huge conspiracy!
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
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We went to the moon twice in 1969, twice in 1971 and twice in 1972. damn. this is one helluv'uh huge conspiracy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


and, it was Kennedy who said: "we will get to the Moon before the close of this decade."
well, hell, he didn't even make it to the next year!

conspiracy, or what?
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
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your still need a shit-load of fuel to get that high up, moron.
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We went to the moon twice in 1969, twice in 1971 and twice in 1972. damn. this is one helluv'uh huge conspiracy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


and, it was Kennedy who said: "we will get to the Moon before the close of this decade."
well, hell, he didn't even make it to the next year!

conspiracy, or what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


pity that 30 more years of technological advanced only avoided the moon as much as possible as a possible waypoint on space travel.

My theory? They did went to the moon, way more than what is said.
"Man never went to the moon" is a gold bag conspiracy for those hiding the "extra" trips.
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Yea..pretty sure to be an astronaut you have to be a complete nerd genius rocket scientist...
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Nope just one crazy bastard.
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Shhhh, OP. You're thinking forbidden thoughts.

Just blindly obey and nod your head now.
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15 Seconds of fuel left when they "landed"
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22634579


Correct. The reason the Saturn was so huge was it had to literally "slingshot" the payload around the moon.
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Just because you're not smart enough to wrap your tiny brain around it doesn't mean it couldn't be done.

No one said it was easy but it was quite doable, all the problems were solved, and we got it done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821


Yes, im no rocket scientist.

But it took hundreds of men with 1000's of lb's of fuel to get off the earth... and centuries of trial and error...

yet we send up 3 men with NO REAL firsthand knowledge of lunar aerodynamics? just theory? doesnt hold water.
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Ding Ding Ding
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247


They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22634579


Correct. The reason the Saturn was so huge was it had to literally "slingshot" the payload around the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


the Saturn 5 was the fruition of Wernher von Braun's mad dream.

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