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If the Moon landing was real: How the hell did they take off FROM the moon?

 
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Lets start with something simple... Do you understand gravity?
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ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting?
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Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year?
Why?
The moon is fucking DEAD.
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Because the moon is DEAD is exactly why we should have been utilizing future exploration. Do you really think the rest of SPACE is not DEAD all around us?

We need to know if this is all a waste of time. The nearest visible star is Proxima Centauri. It is 4.7 light years away. That is 25 Trillion Miles away!!!

So what is the point of space exploration if we are DEAD anywhere but Earth.

That is why the 40 year gap of no moon missions is troubling. Basically the space industry knows that space travel is bullshit due to the insane distances between star systems. So what have they been doing for the last 40 years instead...

WEAPONIZING the SPACE around Earth so we can someday make the Earth DEAD too.
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LEM
Built by Grumman
Right here on Long Island, NY
Only the top half lifted off
Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff
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the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
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They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
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your still need a shit-load of fuel to get that high up, moron.
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How hight up? In a vaccuum, there's no areodynamic drag to deal with, just 1/6g. And the CSM they were joining with was orbiting at about 60 miles up. It didn't take a lot of fuel to get up there, compared to launching into Earth orbit.
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the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would
have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket
to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly
have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle.

the whole thing is a FAKE!
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They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth.

If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend.
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your still need a shit-load of fuel to get that high up, moron.
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How hight up? In a vaccuum, there's no areodynamic drag to deal with, just 1/6g. And the CSM they were joining with was orbiting at about 60 miles up. It didn't take a lot of fuel to get up there, compared to launching into Earth orbit.
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can you say "shill"?
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential, just like the rate at which your brain cells are dying.
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential, just like the rate at which your brain cells are dying.
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maybe. but i've still got enough brain sells left to make you look like a moron. moron!
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6 Moon landings, and nobody nominated them for an Academy Award? sheeesh...
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential
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No, its not. why would it be?
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
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definitely an Academy Award-worthy production.
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
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Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
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Yea..pretty sure to be an astronaut you have to be a complete nerd genius rocket scientist...
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Nope just one crazy bastard.
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Neil Armstrong was no "genius rocket scientist."

He was an extremely dependable, balls-of-steel test pilot.
The scientists came later.
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential
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No, its not. why would it be?
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Yes, yes it is. Because of physics.
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
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Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
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all done in a moonscape hanger at Area 51, of course.
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Foward to 30:40

[link to www.youtube.com]
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential
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No, its not. why would it be?
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Yes, yes it is. Because of physics.
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well, pie are NOT square! pie are round. cornbread are square.
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22399618


Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


Remote huh genius?

Proof? Data? Who remoted it? HOW?

Some of you americans are smart as a rock.
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it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.

so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!

yer right: it's all a FAKE!
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The fuel savings is exponential
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No, its not. why would it be?
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Yes, yes it is. Because of physics.
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Darn, I thought it was because of religion.
Thanks for clearing it up!
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22399618


Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


Remote huh genius?

Proof? Data? Who remoted it? HOW?

Some of you americans are smart as a rock.
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The camera was mounted on the front of the abandoned lunar rover and remotely controlled from Houston. The pan-up command was sent 1.3 seconds early to account for the delay. It's obvious from the jerky motions best observed from 32:30 that it's controlled by motors and that it can only do one thing at a time (pan down, pan right, zoom etc). There's footage from some EVA missions where Mission Control operated the camera while both astronauts move around in view. Next time read, don't guess.
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i think its pretty obvious they never went, the US cant even do that today, but to admit it, it would cause an uproar and huge embarrasment, but its right there for anyone who can see.
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22399618


Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


Remote huh genius?

Proof? Data? Who remoted it? HOW?

Some of you americans are smart as a rock.
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the rocks need to become gods and goddesses with the secret societies secrets of this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Anyone care to explain to me HOW did they manage to film the lift off from moon surface, with camera movement and zoom in and out?

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.

Oh and there was a delay of 4-5 seconds for voice - so imagine for camera work.

anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22399618


Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


Remote huh genius?

Proof? Data? Who remoted it? HOW?

Some of you americans are smart as a rock.
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The camera was mounted on the front of the abandoned lunar rover and remotely controlled from Houston. The pan-up command was sent 1.3 seconds early to account for the delay. It's obvious from the jerky motions best observed from 32:30 that it's controlled by motors and that it can only do one thing at a time (pan down, pan right, zoom etc). There's footage from some EVA missions where Mission Control operated the camera while both astronauts move around in view. Next time read, don't guess.
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Yeah same camera that waited there to captured him going down the ladder...
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Co-conspirators who "went to the Moon"

"walked on the Moon":

1. Neil Armstrong
2. Buzz Aldrin
3. Pete Conrad
4. Alan Bean
6. Edgar Mitchell
7. David Scott
8. James Irwin
9. John W. Young
10. Charles Duke
11. Eugene Cernan
12. Harrison Schmitt


"drove the get-away-car":

1. Frank Borman
2. Jim Lovell
3. Bill Anders
4. Tom Stafford
John Young
Gene Cernan
5. Mike Collins
6. Dick Gordon
Jim Lovell
7. Jack Swigert
8. Fred Haise
9. Stu Roosa
10. Al Worden
11. Ken Mattingly
12. Ron Evans
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The pulling force needed to be overcome at any given moment, when ascending from a body is

Mass of body * mass of craft / distance in square

The force is proportional to the mass of the heavenly body
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Guys, youtube that famous interview after landing

Now, when you look that interview you look at the people who just achived one of the biggest things in history!
So do they look/act like that!?

No, they look upset, confused, even scared... like they guilty for something!
I mean, there's no positive emotions there...only fake...look at their body language when they answering questions!
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It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2.

It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon.
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Which mission? Earlier missions they filmed using a camera inside the LEM. Later missions a camera was left on a tripod outside and filmed the LEM liftoff using a remote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163


Remote huh genius?

Proof? Data? Who remoted it? HOW?

Some of you americans are smart as a rock.
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The camera was mounted on the front of the abandoned lunar rover and remotely controlled from Houston. The pan-up command was sent 1.3 seconds early to account for the delay. It's obvious from the jerky motions best observed from 32:30 that it's controlled by motors and that it can only do one thing at a time (pan down, pan right, zoom etc). There's footage from some EVA missions where Mission Control operated the camera while both astronauts move around in view. Next time read, don't guess.
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Yeah same camera that waited there to captured him going down the ladder...
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That camera was attached to the LEM and extended on an arm, all according to the masterplan.

And you're welcome for the hundreds of billion$ in aid we've given you.
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Lunar aerodynamics?
Are you kidding?

Lets start with something simple... Do you understand gravity?
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lol

Um, 1 man on the LEM and 2 men on the lunar module. 3 - 1 = 2 men on the Moon dummy.
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already addressed, its now a straw man
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Still funny though.
book

it took the Saturn 5 rocket to escape Earth's gravity.
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It took a Saturn V stack to get 3 men and their stuff to the Moon and Back.
Since the Moon is in orbit around the Earth they never actually had to achieve escape velocity.

the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity.
so, it would take 20% of a Saturn 5 to escape Moon's gravity!
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The LM only had to get 2 men and their stuff into lunar orbit.
Orbital speed is considerably less than escape velocity.
book

your still need a shit-load of fuel to get that high up, moron.
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How much fuel?

6 Moon landings, and nobody nominated them for an Academy Award? sheeesh...
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Apollo XI won a Hugo.
book

And don't bother to tell me they used earth commands to do it - it was impossible back then.
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Blatant lie and/or delusion.
Tesla had already demonstrated tele-operated robots in the 1890s.
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Co-conspirators who "went to the Moon"

"walked on the Moon":

1. Neil Armstrong
2. Buzz Aldrin
3. Pete Conrad
4. Alan Bean
6. Edgar Mitchell
7. David Scott
8. James Irwin
9. John W. Young
10. Charles Duke
11. Eugene Cernan
12. Harrison Schmitt


"drove the get-away-car":

1. Frank Borman
2. Jim Lovell
3. Bill Anders
4. Tom Stafford
John Young
Gene Cernan
5. Mike Collins
6. Dick Gordon
Jim Lovell
7. Jack Swigert
8. Fred Haise
9. Stu Roosa
10. Al Worden
11. Ken Mattingly
12. Ron Evans
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and, they were all there, on the grassy knoll, too,
on November 22, 1963.
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Co-conspirators who "went to the Moon"

"walked on the Moon":

1. Neil Armstrong
2. Buzz Aldrin
3. Pete Conrad
4. Alan Bean
6. Edgar Mitchell
7. David Scott
8. James Irwin
9. John W. Young
10. Charles Duke
11. Eugene Cernan
12. Harrison Schmitt


"drove the get-away-car":

1. Frank Borman
2. Jim Lovell
3. Bill Anders
4. Tom Stafford
John Young
Gene Cernan
5. Mike Collins
6. Dick Gordon
Jim Lovell
7. Jack Swigert
8. Fred Haise
9. Stu Roosa
10. Al Worden
11. Ken Mattingly
12. Ron Evans
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And you are not worthy to shine the shoes of any of those amazing heroes.
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Unless you were there, dont think you know how well they would have been able to take off from the moon with their equipment and fuel. And not saying I know the moon landing was real but imagine it could be done if people are knowledgeble about this stuff and considering the moon is pretty close to us.

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