If the Moon landing was real: How the hell did they take off FROM the moon? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22629621 Thailand 08/26/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon. Um, 1 man on the LEM and 2 men on the lunar module. 3 - 1 = 2 men on the Moon dummy. Dummy? OK. LEM = Lunar Excursion Module. That's what landed on the moon, with two men. Command module orbited with one man. At least you could have googled LEM. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 United States 08/26/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow.. There are some legitimate questions about he moon landing. But when people who obviously failed high school physics try to make scientific arguments. They just add fuel to the ones that claim it was all done as it's stated. Please people, if you are a science flop, don't try to figure it out... you only make things worse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22575114 Sweden 08/26/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking off from earth and taking off from the moon is most probably two entirely different things. Its called Gravity! On earth we have gravity to overcome while on the moon the gravity is much less which means the propellant needed would be much less. I.e no rockets just a small controlled explosion to get off the surface..Then inertia would take care of the rest. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6231580 United States 08/26/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon. While im not saying the moon landing is real or fake taking off from the moons surface is easy due to the low gravity. and im sure they did it with small explosives on the base of the lander that shot the passenger but up in to orbit very slowly. INSANELY LOW GRAV = LITTLE FORCE REQUIRED there's plenty of info out there debunking the moon landing... do a youtube search. I am convinced of this: we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22629621 Thailand 08/26/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon. Ummm...there were two men in the LEM when it lifted off from the moon, not three. The third was in the orbiting command module. It did it with sixteen Reaction Control System (RCS) thrusters, 5.17 pounds (2.35 kg) each) mounted in four quads ok.... 2 men. not much difference though; what about the technology of the time? the fuel required would have been hundreds of lbs, no? to take off from point zero. And where is the rocketry apparatus? who built it? "OK, 2 men". Hahahaha. And you expect anyone to take you seriously??? Anyway, and I know this will challenge your intellect: The propellant mass for the ascent stage was 2,353 kg of Aerozine 50 fuel / nitrogen tetroxide oxidizer. Thrust generated was 16,000 N. No I know you are nowhere near capable of doing the math, but if you do a calculation for the thrust and burn required for lunary escape velocity, that is more than enough to do the job. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22575114 Sweden 08/26/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting? Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year? Why? The moon is fucking DEAD. What he said! Dunno why any govmnt would pour a shitload of money into a project just to collect MORE dead rocks. There is nothing of interest on the moon. Thats why they dont go back.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11696035 Canada 08/26/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, so if its 40+ year old tech why havent we gone back, only done orbiting? Are we supposed to pointlessly visit the moon every year? Why? The moon is fucking DEAD. What he said! Dunno why any govmnt would pour a shitload of money into a project just to collect MORE dead rocks. There is nothing of interest on the moon. Thats why they dont go back.. Yet mars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22633247 United States 08/26/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LEM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163 Built by Grumman Right here on Long Island, NY Only the top half lifted off Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle. the whole thing is a FAKE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16076867 Canada 08/26/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because you're not smart enough to wrap your tiny brain around it doesn't mean it couldn't be done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821 No one said it was easy but it was quite doable, all the problems were solved, and we got it done. Yes, im no rocket scientist. But it took hundreds of men with 1000's of lb's of fuel to get off the earth... and centuries of trial and error... yet we send up 3 men with NO REAL firsthand knowledge of lunar aerodynamics? just theory? doesnt hold water. Shill fail |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6231580 United States 08/26/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was only the 3 astronauts, right? No rocket scientists. No reconstructed apparatus. And what about the operations of firing a rocket WITH 3 MEN AND FUEL, CAMERA'S etc FROM THE MOON? How the hell could any scientist speculate that 3 astronauts would be able to take off by themseves? From point zero, the amount of fuel needed? What about the times; we needed to send disinfo to the Soviet Union... 1+1 = 2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6231580 It was fake. Recondition your mind: Aint NO ONE been on the moon. Ummm...there were two men in the LEM when it lifted off from the moon, not three. The third was in the orbiting command module. It did it with sixteen Reaction Control System (RCS) thrusters, 5.17 pounds (2.35 kg) each) mounted in four quads ok.... 2 men. not much difference though; what about the technology of the time? the fuel required would have been hundreds of lbs, no? to take off from point zero. And where is the rocketry apparatus? who built it? "OK, 2 men". Hahahaha. And you expect anyone to take you seriously??? Anyway, and I know this will challenge your intellect: The propellant mass for the ascent stage was 2,353 kg of Aerozine 50 fuel / nitrogen tetroxide oxidizer. Thrust generated was 16,000 N. No I know you are nowhere near capable of doing the math, but if you do a calculation for the thrust and burn required for lunary escape velocity, that is more than enough to do the job. I dont buy the elitist dictatorship representation of facts. They have lost all credibility. They have exploited the good faith of the people; now I do not believe ANYTHING they "dictate"; not thier clearly corrupt history, not their science, not their media. |
Sword of mercy User ID: 22634586 United Kingdom 08/26/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are sending robots to mars and people still don't think we could have sent people to the moon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19058378 WHY HAVENT WE gone back then? its over 40 years old technology, the costs in the times would/should be MICROCOSM of what it was... hell, we should have cities up there.... i call bullshit on the moon landing. We would have gone back; yet most modern space operations have been ORBITING, and shuttes... the rea tech. 'man on the moon' is a soviet directed gov psy op. Don't think there is anything worthwhile to go back to at present. If oil was found then that would be a different. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22634579 United States 08/26/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LEM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163 Built by Grumman Right here on Long Island, NY Only the top half lifted off Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle. the whole thing is a FAKE! They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth. If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22633247 United States 08/26/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We went to the moon twice in 1969, twice in 1971 and twice in 1972. damn. this is one helluv'uh huge conspiracy! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247 and, it was Kennedy who said: "we will get to the Moon before the close of this decade." well, hell, he didn't even make it to the next year! conspiracy, or what? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22633247 United States 08/26/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LEM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163 Built by Grumman Right here on Long Island, NY Only the top half lifted off Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle. the whole thing is a FAKE! They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth. If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend. your still need a shit-load of fuel to get that high up, moron. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22588312 Portugal 08/26/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We went to the moon twice in 1969, twice in 1971 and twice in 1972. damn. this is one helluv'uh huge conspiracy! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22633247 and, it was Kennedy who said: "we will get to the Moon before the close of this decade." well, hell, he didn't even make it to the next year! conspiracy, or what? pity that 30 more years of technological advanced only avoided the moon as much as possible as a possible waypoint on space travel. My theory? They did went to the moon, way more than what is said. "Man never went to the moon" is a gold bag conspiracy for those hiding the "extra" trips. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12905163 United States 08/26/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LEM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163 Built by Grumman Right here on Long Island, NY Only the top half lifted off Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle. the whole thing is a FAKE! They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth. If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend. Correct. The reason the Saturn was so huge was it had to literally "slingshot" the payload around the moon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20904461 United States 08/26/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because you're not smart enough to wrap your tiny brain around it doesn't mean it couldn't be done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22631821 No one said it was easy but it was quite doable, all the problems were solved, and we got it done. Yes, im no rocket scientist. But it took hundreds of men with 1000's of lb's of fuel to get off the earth... and centuries of trial and error... yet we send up 3 men with NO REAL firsthand knowledge of lunar aerodynamics? just theory? doesnt hold water. Ding Ding Ding |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22633247 United States 08/26/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LEM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12905163 Built by Grumman Right here on Long Island, NY Only the top half lifted off Theres still damage to the landing sites from the exaust generated on liftoff the Moon is 20% of Earth's gravity. the LEM would have had to have 20% of the fuel in a Saturn 5 rocket to escape the Moon's gravity. the LEM couldn't possibly have had any more fuel than a 4th of July roman candle. the whole thing is a FAKE! They weren't launching a Saturn V from the lunar surface, they were launching the ascent stage of the LM. And they didn't gave to excape the lunar graviry, they went into lunar orbit to join up with the CSM. Crew and lunar samples transferred to the CM, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned, and they then fired the CSM's SPS engine to head back to Earth. If you're going to cry "fake", the least you could do is get the story straight. Research is your friend. Correct. The reason the Saturn was so huge was it had to literally "slingshot" the payload around the moon. the Saturn 5 was the fruition of Wernher von Braun's mad dream. |