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I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night

 
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.45 ACP is for when you need STOPPING POWER. The criminal(s) breaking into your home are most likely drug addicts and high on crack etc so they won't drop like a regular person would.
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Use a shotgun.
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That's why I said the only thing better is a shotgun. You cannot however carry a shotgun around in public, so 1911 .45 ACP it is.
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.45 ACP is for when you need STOPPING POWER. The criminal(s) breaking into your home are most likely drug addicts and high on crack etc so they won't drop like a regular person would.
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Use a shotgun.
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After experiencing an actual home invader I'll stick with the .45 ACP. No disrespect to the shotgun, but it just doesn't point as fast and usually aren't semi-auto.
No, didn't have to shoot the guy...he was very drunk and harmless. He peed on himself when I put him at gunpoint! Felt sorry for him and let him go. He'll never do it again! Scared the heck out of me tho...bad feeling creeping thru the house in the dark with a wife and baby to protect.
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
1911s Suck
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makes some interesting arguments about the design vs modern production

1911 is an outdated weapons platform
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I wondered how long it would take before this came up. It is unfortunately true. And I was a 1911 guy.
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.45 ACP is for when you need STOPPING POWER. The criminal(s) breaking into your home are most likely drug addicts and high on crack etc so they won't drop like a regular person would.
 Quoting: Elzop


Use a shotgun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22617129


After experiencing an actual home invader I'll stick with the .45 ACP. No disrespect to the shotgun, but it just doesn't point as fast and usually aren't semi-auto.
No, didn't have to shoot the guy...he was very drunk and harmless. He peed on himself when I put him at gunpoint! Felt sorry for him and let him go. He'll never do it again! Scared the heck out of me tho...bad feeling creeping thru the house in the dark with a wife and baby to protect.
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That's exactly why I bought a handgun. I realized after doing a sweep of my house it's a poor choice. Unless you can go around your house kicking doors open so you have enough time to step back and lift the barrel your screwed. Closet doors open outward and if someone was to jump right at your not going to have enough time to do anything unlike with a handgun held close to your body pointing at an intruder.
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.45 ACP is for when you need STOPPING POWER. The criminal(s) breaking into your home are most likely drug addicts and high on crack etc so they won't drop like a regular person would.
 Quoting: Elzop


Use a shotgun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22617129


After experiencing an actual home invader I'll stick with the .45 ACP. No disrespect to the shotgun, but it just doesn't point as fast and usually aren't semi-auto.
No, didn't have to shoot the guy...he was very drunk and harmless. He peed on himself when I put him at gunpoint! Felt sorry for him and let him go. He'll never do it again! Scared the heck out of me tho...bad feeling creeping thru the house in the dark with a wife and baby to protect.
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That's exactly why I bought a handgun. I realized after doing a sweep of my house it's a poor choice. Unless you can go around your house kicking doors open so you have enough time to step back and lift the barrel your screwed. Closet doors open outward and if someone was to jump right at your not going to have enough time to do anything unlike with a handgun held close to your body pointing at an intruder.

Correct, I agree.

My experience was years ago and I was stationed in Germany at the time; I was forward deployed and the wall had just come down so things were chaotic. I'm so glad I didn't have to shoot the guy. It would have been needless and caused trauma to family. Nobody want that kind of thing.
I live in a safe area and there is very little crime here so I'm not worried. If I were living in some big city with lots of crime my decision process regarding use of deadly force would not be what it is now. The best bet is to get into a defensive posture then let the threat come to you. I'd not leave the room looking for it. That's for both survival and legal reasons. There will be absolutely no question as to the legitimacy of my self-defense.
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.45 ACP is for when you need STOPPING POWER. The criminal(s) breaking into your home are most likely drug addicts and high on crack etc so they won't drop like a regular person would.
 Quoting: Elzop


Use a shotgun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22617129


After experiencing an actual home invader I'll stick with the .45 ACP. No disrespect to the shotgun, but it just doesn't point as fast and usually aren't semi-auto.
No, didn't have to shoot the guy...he was very drunk and harmless. He peed on himself when I put him at gunpoint! Felt sorry for him and let him go. He'll never do it again! Scared the heck out of me tho...bad feeling creeping thru the house in the dark with a wife and baby to protect.
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That's exactly why I bought a handgun. I realized after doing a sweep of my house it's a poor choice. Unless you can go around your house kicking doors open so you have enough time to step back and lift the barrel your screwed. Closet doors open outward and if someone was to jump right at your not going to have enough time to do anything unlike with a handgun held close to your body pointing at an intruder.
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Good point.
Study history, or STFU! Let me guess? You'll speak your empty mind?
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
When I conduct CQB training with pistols, regardless of the platform, I always adhere to the following schools of thought:

1. You should always have two weapons and two holsters on your person.

2. You should always have one of your weapons with a very bright, mounted tactical light on the weak hand weapon. You must identify targets before releasing a round.

3. If you require to manipulate doors or breach objects, always holster your weak hand weapon. Use your weak hand to manipulate objects.

4. Your two holsters should be easily accessible with a minimum of one extra magazine each, no flaps.

5. The two weapons of your choice should both have the exact same ambidextrous controls and be the exact same model which utilize the exact same magazines and ammunition type. No exceptions.

6. At a minimum, your weak hand weapon should be mounted with a tactical light, but it is ideal to have both mounted with a light. It simply requires more training. You want to confuse your enemy, not yourself!

7. Both of your tactical handguns should be out of your holsters whenever possible, and ready for engagement.

8. Your strong hand weapon is what you aim and fire with, using the weak hand weapon (specifically the tactical light), for misdirection purposes. If you have two lights, you may reverse this depending upon your position. For example, no matter your set or position, the light should be as far away as possible to your actual center of mass position. If on knees, the light should be held as high and away from your actual center of mass as possible. (this is what the bad guys will be drawn to, aim for, and assume your center of mass is located when firing)

9. If fired upon and in a very weak defensive or offensive position, it is tactically sound to drop your light-locked on weapon light firearm after being fired upon, in the direction of your attacker, for the sake of misdirection. This will give you a clean shot in relative safety, away from where the bad guy will believe you have have been injured.

Misdirection is key in a situation at home and against multiple intruders Your only advantages will be this type of misdirection (example: moan loudly when dropping your lit-locked firearm to feign an injury while also making sure the light is directed straight down the hallway for which the attack is coming from) and your superior knowledge of your homes layout.

Much more, but good basics for anyone.
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When I conduct CQB training with pistols, regardless of the platform, I always adhere to the following schools of thought:

1. You should always have two weapons and two holsters on your person.

2. You should always have one of your weapons with a very bright, mounted tactical light on the weak hand weapon. You must identify targets before releasing a round.

3. If you require to manipulate doors or breach objects, always holster your weak hand weapon. Use your weak hand to manipulate objects.

4. Your two holsters should be easily accessible with a minimum of one extra magazine each, no flaps.

5. The two weapons of your choice should both have the exact same ambidextrous controls and be the exact same model which utilize the exact same magazines and ammunition type. No exceptions.

6. At a minimum, your weak hand weapon should be mounted with a tactical light, but it is ideal to have both mounted with a light. It simply requires more training. You want to confuse your enemy, not yourself!

7. Both of your tactical handguns should be out of your holsters whenever possible, and ready for engagement.

8. Your strong hand weapon is what you aim and fire with, using the weak hand weapon (specifically the tactical light), for misdirection purposes. If you have two lights, you may reverse this depending upon your position. For example, no matter your set or position, the light should be as far away as possible to your actual center of mass position. If on knees, the light should be held as high and away from your actual center of mass as possible. (this is what the bad guys will be drawn to, aim for, and assume your center of mass is located when firing)

9. If fired upon and in a very weak defensive or offensive position, it is tactically sound to drop your light-locked on weapon light firearm after being fired upon, in the direction of your attacker, for the sake of misdirection. This will give you a clean shot in relative safety, away from where the bad guy will believe you have have been injured.

Misdirection is key in a situation at home and against multiple intruders Your only advantages will be this type of misdirection (example: moan loudly when dropping your lit-locked firearm to feign an injury while also making sure the light is directed straight down the hallway for which the attack is coming from) and your superior knowledge of your homes layout.

Much more, but good basics for anyone.
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That's all good advice but the average person wouldn't be thinking very clearly in that kind of situation.
Best bet is to get down behind something in a hide position and if they come at you blast'em.
Y'know if weapons safety and marksmanship were part of school curriculum we'd have a virtually crime-free country most likely.
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Now just why in the HELL do I have to press "one" for English?

Politicians should always have their head in a noose,it keeps them upright and on their toes.

There may come a time when the only thing left to do is say "Fuck it!", draw your weapon,and see what happens.
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Pathetic attempt, shill.
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
I love mine also... and the rest of what I own. But nothing is even close to my G21. But who am I?, just a gunsmith of 17 yrs :)
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
When I conduct CQB training with pistols, regardless of the platform, I always adhere to the following schools of thought:

1. You should always have two weapons and two holsters on your person.

2. You should always have one of your weapons with a very bright, mounted tactical light on the weak hand weapon. You must identify targets before releasing a round.

3. If you require to manipulate doors or breach objects, always holster your weak hand weapon. Use your weak hand to manipulate objects.

4. Your two holsters should be easily accessible with a minimum of one extra magazine each, no flaps.

5. The two weapons of your choice should both have the exact same ambidextrous controls and be the exact same model which utilize the exact same magazines and ammunition type. No exceptions.

6. At a minimum, your weak hand weapon should be mounted with a tactical light, but it is ideal to have both mounted with a light. It simply requires more training. You want to confuse your enemy, not yourself!

7. Both of your tactical handguns should be out of your holsters whenever possible, and ready for engagement.

8. Your strong hand weapon is what you aim and fire with, using the weak hand weapon (specifically the tactical light), for misdirection purposes. If you have two lights, you may reverse this depending upon your position. For example, no matter your set or position, the light should be as far away as possible to your actual center of mass position. If on knees, the light should be held as high and away from your actual center of mass as possible. (this is what the bad guys will be drawn to, aim for, and assume your center of mass is located when firing)

9. If fired upon and in a very weak defensive or offensive position, it is tactically sound to drop your light-locked on weapon light firearm after being fired upon, in the direction of your attacker, for the sake of misdirection. This will give you a clean shot in relative safety, away from where the bad guy will believe you have have been injured.

Misdirection is key in a situation at home and against multiple intruders Your only advantages will be this type of misdirection (example: moan loudly when dropping your lit-locked firearm to feign an injury while also making sure the light is directed straight down the hallway for which the attack is coming from) and your superior knowledge of your homes layout.

Much more, but good basics for anyone.
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Holy crap! The local PD doesnt even come close to this!
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
OP, get a compensated barrel. Nothing like 6 rounds on target in 3 seconds. I love my racegun.
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
hay tin foil hat off ,,,have you had a problem with a loose front sight on your 1911 yet,,just asking.that tends to be a known concern
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hay tin foil hat off ,,,have you had a problem with a loose front sight on your 1911 yet,,just asking.that tends to be a known concern
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No I haven't had that problem.
Study history, or STFU! Let me guess? You'll speak your empty mind?
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OP, get a compensated barrel. Nothing like 6 rounds on target in 3 seconds. I love my racegun.
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:)
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
I purchased a new colt govt, model 4 years ago and after 4 trips to the range looked down and front sight was missing,,,gun store wanted to warranty it by peening the sight with a center punch.. declined them fixing it that way and took it home and reset front sight with red locktite,,havn't had a concern after 4 years
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if it ever comes loose again i'll just put a wilson front sight on it.
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My next ccw
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Re: I love my 1911, so effective, so safe. The best cure for whatever goes bump in the night
A buddy lent me Browning's last design, the High Power which is Belgian made by FN. I had a chance to run 300 thru it last weekend. The gun was very accurate and I was 2" grouping at 30' from the get go.
I really want one now. Big surprise.
Re: 1911
My uncle gave me a Colt 70 series NIB never fired. I like to shoot but have plenty of other. Save or have fun?
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I just love the accuracy, the single action safety, and of course the .45 ACP caliber. The only thing you can carry that is more effective against a man is a shotgun.

1911, thank you Mr. Browning
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Ruger P345 does a body.
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I wouldn't want a weapon, that in a moment of terror, I could miss with. Give me any type of shotgun with a wide spread buckshot any day over a pistol.

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