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Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

 
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Settle.... Hello!
Just getting comfy at keyboard to read your latest installments :)

Kismet
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Kismet, I will not be on long tonight...not feeling well :(

I will try to be back on tomorrow evening...Good night...Peaceful Dreams!
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Do take care... rest and fluids, be kind to yourself :)

I was feeling pretty crappy today also... earlier, I soaked in a hot bath with huge amounts of sea salts, epson salts, eucalyptus, sodium bicarbonate, and even some H202 - made a HUGE difference.

Sweet dreams!

Kismet
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No power for like 3 days. MREs anyone? Scrumptious. =\
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Hey OP, we've been keepin the thread warm for you...
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I see that holy crap! Hopefully my power will
Be on this morning.
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No power for like 3 days. MREs anyone? Scrumptious. =\
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Hey OP, we've been keepin the thread warm for you...
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I see that holy crap! Hopefully my power will
Be on this morning.
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What "power" are you talking about? seems like mumbo jumbo, can you expound please?
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No power for like 3 days. MREs anyone? Scrumptious. =\
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Hey OP, we've been keepin the thread warm for you...
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I see that holy crap! Hopefully my power will
Be on this morning.
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What "power" are you talking about? seems like mumbo jumbo, can you expound please?
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Heretic lives in on the gulf coast, they had a hurricane there the other day, 650,000 without power...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

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Hey OP, we've been keepin the thread warm for you...
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I see that holy crap! Hopefully my power will
Be on this morning.
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What "power" are you talking about? seems like mumbo jumbo, can you expound please?
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Heretic lives in on the gulf coast, they had a hurricane there the other day, 650,000 without power...
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Oh, my apologies. I thought he meant some super natural ability, sorry.
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The only thing I can say to you young man is, memory retention is often mistaken for intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to use your knowledge/information in an abstract way. This may explain a few things about some of the people you know. I've been observing your previous post's. A word of advice, never be so rigid in your belief's that you won't change them when new correct information arrives. Pursuing and adjusting your beliefs to factual information is the only way you advance. Do not dismiss this.
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THis and that.. all is one no matter how you sort it.
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The beginning of chaotic times in Egypt...which would last over 300 years...Ten human rulers continued the previously semi-divine kingships...Of the nine human rulers who wore only the red cap of Lower Egypt...some names were...Scorpion...Realated to the Scorpion king...maybe?...Ka...Zeser...Narmer...and Sma....

Some have referred to this period as Dynasty O...with out the spaghetti...between the semi-divine rulers and Menes...the human kings ruled under the patronage of Horus...their epithets were Shamsu-Hor...

the appearance and identity of Quetzalcoatl can be inferred by events in Sumer...This was a not-so-subtle hint RA wanted Babylon to be in control of the space craft landing area...Just as Chicago was Frank Sinatra’s “kind of town”, Babylon was Ra’s...when Ra’s coup was frustrated...he returned to Egypt and deposed Thoth...He also deposed his younger brother...Dumuzi...who had been betrothed to Inanna...Dumuzi ended up being accidentally killed...and Thoth wound up looking for new stomping grounds and ant hills...

Ultimately the son upon whom the creator god had bestowed the “secrets” of the calendar...mathematics and writing...Ningishzidda (Thoth) came to MesoAmerica under the alias of Quetzalcoatl...Quetzalcoatl means “the plumed serpent”...Ningishzidda’s name in Sumerian means “Lord of the Tree of Life”...indicating creator god had entrusted to his son some serious medical knowledge...including the secret of reviving the dead...this sounds like someone else we know of...

It is noteworthy that creator god demonstrated this technique when he rescued his granddaughter...Inanna...from the dead following her Descent into the Underworld...and Thoth had tried...but failed to do the same for Osiris...Of course Osiris had really gone to pieces!...

Also the newly established landing corridor in South America makes sense if there is terrible trouble in River City (the Sinai)...Ra running about doing his rendition of a Bolshevik Revolutionary...chaos in Egypt...Republicans in trouble in New Hampshire...and so forth...It was time to consider some alternate routes to the heavens...Wonder if they got miles on their credit card for that?
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This ties in with the Saga of Tin and Bronze...The location of those lands where tin is found is near the currently known locations of ancient tin mines...Cornwall in Southeastern England southeast of Stonehenge...and Lake Titicaca...in Bolivia...

In effect Ra tried the Babylon gambit...failed...returned to Egypt..and created over 300 years of chaos...The chaos sent Thoth/Quetzalcoatl to Mexico and Central America where he initiated the Mayan calendar...Meanwhile...Viracocha sets up a landing corridor in South America based around the mines of Lake Titicaca...the pivotal points of Cuzco...Ollantaytambu and Machu Picchu...which are determined by the divine wand provided by Viracocha to Manco Capac...the Inca...

At about the same time...a sun temple was built in Egypt that aligned with the summer and winter solstices...the dominant deity was a goddess...usually naked and bare-chested or with rows of beads and necklaces as her sole covering...the first Flower Child...in more detail this Inanna is the...Goddess of Heaven and Earth...Goddess of Love...Goddess of War...Lady of Myriad Offices...

The Descent tells of Inanna leaving the temples in her seven cities...and journeying into the underworld...In the process she loses all the attributes of her queendom in seven stages...the Dance of the Seven Veils...and upon arriving in the Underworld naked and powerless...is judged...condemned...executed and her corpse hung from a nail on the wall...

When tin supplies in the Near East improved...people appeared on the Near Eastern scene as well...The Greeks...Curiously at about the same time...Silbury Hill in England was constructed in England known as Cornwall...the only other major place in the world where tin ore was found it its original lodes...It’s a small world after all...and was such even in ancient times...

The gods had become very aware of a threat to their spaceport from the massed armies in southern Canaan...The newly named Abraham might have helped to turn the tide for the patriarchal gods...but as had become evident to the them over the centuries...humanity could sometimes dictate events and circumstances contrary to the wishes of the gods...

But if that same man was faced with army ants on the move...then he would almost certainly be overwhelmed...The same applied to the gods with their long lives and great weapons...And now their spaceport was threatened by a hoard of humans...The result?...The gods approved the use of nuclear weapons...They needed to teach humanity a lesson...and put them in their place...again...

Sodom and Gomorrah were bombed with atomic weapons and thereafter wiped from the face of the earth!...Talk about your over kill...
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This ties in with the Saga of Tin and Bronze...The location of those lands where tin is found is near the currently known locations of ancient tin mines...Cornwall in Southeastern England southeast of Stonehenge...and Lake Titicaca...in Bolivia...

In effect Ra tried the Babylon gambit...failed...returned to Egypt..and created over 300 years of chaos...The chaos sent Thoth/Quetzalcoatl to Mexico and Central America where he initiated the Mayan calendar...Meanwhile...Viracocha sets up a landing corridor in South America based around the mines of Lake Titicaca...the pivotal points of Cuzco...Ollantaytambu and Machu Picchu...which are determined by the divine wand provided by Viracocha to Manco Capac...the Inca...

At about the same time...a sun temple was built in Egypt that aligned with the summer and winter solstices...the dominant deity was a goddess...usually naked and bare-chested or with rows of beads and necklaces as her sole covering...the first Flower Child...in more detail this Inanna is the...Goddess of Heaven and Earth...Goddess of Love...Goddess of War...Lady of Myriad Offices...

The Descent tells of Inanna leaving the temples in her seven cities...and journeying into the underworld...In the process she loses all the attributes of her queendom in seven stages...the Dance of the Seven Veils...and upon arriving in the Underworld naked and powerless...is judged...condemned...executed and her corpse hung from a nail on the wall...

When tin supplies in the Near East improved...people appeared on the Near Eastern scene as well...The Greeks...Curiously at about the same time...Silbury Hill in England was constructed in England known as Cornwall...the only other major place in the world where tin ore was found it its original lodes...It’s a small world after all...and was such even in ancient times...

The gods had become very aware of a threat to their spaceport from the massed armies in southern Canaan...The newly named Abraham might have helped to turn the tide for the patriarchal gods...but as had become evident to the them over the centuries...humanity could sometimes dictate events and circumstances contrary to the wishes of the gods...

But if that same man was faced with army ants on the move...then he would almost certainly be overwhelmed...The same applied to the gods with their long lives and great weapons...And now their spaceport was threatened by a hoard of humans...The result?...The gods approved the use of nuclear weapons...They needed to teach humanity a lesson...and put them in their place...again...

Sodom and Gomorrah were bombed with atomic weapons and thereafter wiped from the face of the earth!...Talk about your over kill...
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Please don't stop. I am riveted!
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Meanwhile...back at the Palestinian sheep ranch...Isaac...first-born son of Abraham by his half-sister...Sarah...(Yep...they were a close family)was born...Because of the precedence rules of Big Daddy god...Isaac quickly supplanted Ishmael as Abraham’s heir apparent...

This sudden jostling in the heir apparent was due in no small part to Sarah’s raising holy hell with Abraham about Hagar...Ishmael’s mother...and her less legitimate son... Sarah demanded Abraham to cast her and her son out...

Abraham was at age 100 was not quite up to tolerating the wrath of an enraged female and newly endowed mother...Hagar and Ishmael thus ended up departing the patriarch and began wandering the wilderness of Beer sheba...The Queen of Sheba had alcohol named after her...or she liked being nude in the wilderness...

However...one wonders if perhaps this was just biblical blarney...Had Sarah really conceived by Abimelech!?...keep in mind that Abraham was 100 years old when Isaac did arrive...and a bit past his prime...So the boys did not swim as well as they use too!...Meanwhile status-greedy Sarah...who had failed to bear Abraham a son...was not the type to be immaculately pure!...And there was the small matter of the inbreeding...Her being Abraham’s half sister and all...

After Sarah had died at the ripe old age of 127 years...Abraham took himself another wife...Keturah...who managed to provide the old patriarch with another six sons...one of whom...Jokshan...had three grandsons named...Ashurim...Letushim and Leummim...Assure ‘em...let’s use ‘em and loom ‘em...Abraham...again proving himself the old stud...promptly croaked at the youthful age of 175 years...Way to go stud!...

As it turns out the drama was only just beginning!...Just as Ra was selecting wallpaper and carpet for his new temple in Babylon...the sons and daughters of Big Daddy and the Creator god were building their own empires in Assyria...Asia Minor...India...and the Americas...
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One NASA engineer concluded that Ezekiel’s chariot was a “helicopter with a cabin resting on four posts...each equipped with rotary wings...Some two millennia earlier the Sumerian ruler Gudea had built for Ninurta a specialized temple...in which Ninurta and two divine companions could park their divine black wind bird in a secure place...and which was so important that it was guarded by two divine weapons...the “supreme hunter and the supreme killer...weapons that emitted beams of light and death-dealing rays....The divine bird’s importance lay in the fact it was capable of bringing together Heaven and Earth...All of which sounds like a sophisticated flying machine...or some acid stamps...

Jacob’s first UFO encounter occurred while he was on his way to Haran to find a wife...After designating the spot as sacred...christening it Beth-El...and vowing to stay clear of the spot for some time to come...he continued his journey until he reached a well near Haran...There Jacob saw...kissed and was conquered by Rachel...You go girl!...It was the old story of the nephew falling in love with the niece...But Jacob had to work even harder...as he began the laborious job of having some ten sons leap from his loins...Ouch!...What...was Rachel to busy to give birth?...

The end result was...guess what?...Leah...the unwanted by Jacob...was fruitful...while Rachel...the desired...was barren...That answers why Jacob had kids popping out of his loins!...Surprise!...The genetic inbreeding curse lives!...it took Jacob until he was 90 years old before Rachel finally gave birth to Joseph!

The end of the Old Kingdom of Egypt...beginning of the First Intermediate Period and beginning of the Seventh through the Tenth dynasties...all of which were more or less contemporaneous!...

in Babylon (“the gateway of the gods”) -- where Marduk/Ra had made such a deal of capturing and reforming it in his own image. One might suspect he and the other gods were still taking some time off from the Earth-leadership scene. After all, beings who live some 4000 times as long as humans, might view two millennia as humans view a year. Thus 500 years is roughly a quarter of a year, and more like a short sabbatical or an extended holiday for a god.

On the other hand...a strange twist of fate may have begun...Ra...being on the scene in Babylon as he tried to salvage his victory over the other gods was probably being exposed to nuclear radiation in an insidious and not well understood way...

Humans may have been dying in the area somewhat more rapidly than normal...Ra may have grossly erred in not recognizing the danger to his own life by staying in Mesopotamia...This oversight may have come back to haunt him...and may explain a future event which will arise some time between this point in time and the time of the Eighteenth Dynasty in Egypt...

There is also the question as to whether or not Marduk had made an error in overestimating his capability to capture and hold the additional strongholds from Asia Minor to Egypt. Perhaps Marduk was not totally in possession of his faculties, maybe ever so slightly senile. While still a relatively middle aged god Ra might have been suffering from his exposure to the radioactive remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ra...after all had no place to go once he charged into Babylon at the end of the Third Millennium...Even his father...Creator god probably had disowned him by this time....Ra had become trapped in a less than ideal location...fallen to the effects of the radiation and was now developing a bit of a stagger...Ra was becoming...vulnerable...His destiny was...as they say...written...
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Jumping ahead in time...Hatshepsut (hat-cheap-suit) was the wife of Thutmose II...When he died she proclaimed herself Queen...and denied the underage son of Thutmose II and III from claiming the throne and adding the third Roman numeral to his name...For appearances sake she often wore a fake beard during official ceremonies...a fact which did not fool the young Thutmose for a minute...he was a shap little tack...As he would watch his mother's bearded lady act...Her power held sway until her (un)natural death...

When Thutmose III came to the throne...he spent a fair amount of time destroying the temples and monuments built to honor Hatshepsut...must have been due to the fake beard...The Egyptian priests however were not at all that prone to the idea of destroying sacred temples and the like...but Thutmose III pretty much got his way over the years...

Except for the one object of immense religious value...that of an obelisk raised to glorify Hatshepsut...this is where the priests drew the line in the sand!...obelisks were far too sacred to be defaced by an unhappy beardless child...let alone make...Thutmose III could not destroy this last reminder of the woman who had kept his throne from him...

But where there's a pharaoh's will...there's a way...Instead of destroying the object...They had to build a close fitting wall around it and then fill the space with sand...The obelisk was not harmed...Out of sight...out of his mind!...

The lasting irony of this is that while all of the monuments of Egypt have suffered damage over the last several thousand years...the one object which is the best preserved is the one which was protected by a close-fitting wall and an intervening space of dry sand...Queen Hatshepsut's obelisk is one of the best preserved of all of the monuments of Egypt...and all because of a son's thoughtfulness of his bearded mother...and her circus act!...

A big mystery has been the location of where the famed Queen of Sheba came on a visit to King Solomon...On the one hand it is interesting to note that her reason for the visit was to meet a real man...a king...Any woman worthy of being a top notch queen would...it would seem...want to experience a king who was man enough to have a large number of wives...Someone with power...as in power is an aphrodisiac and cheep wine...

To get to Jerusalem from Egypt...if one was looking for the more relaxing and scenic route...it is advised to take a barge down the Nile...head into the Mediterranean Sea...and then dock at a port as close as possible to Jerusalem... In a nutshell...Queen Hatshepsut and the Queen of Sheba are one and the same!...

King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba is not just your typical run-of-the-mill royal love story...They had a kid...Hatshepsut left Israel with a little contraband of a sort...stuffed in her womb...Back in Egypt she gave birth to a son she named Menelik... The Jewish priests found the idea of a half-breed son in their royal midst to be anything but acceptable...

They pressured Solomon mercilessly...urging that the royal bastard to be shipped off to parts unknown...any place outside of Israel...Solomon being the cagy old man that he was...agreed...The kicker was that his son should have a royal entourage...So the eldest son from each of the priests' families were chosen!...

The eldest sons of the Temple priests were also the keepers of the Ark of the Covenant...Menelik and his entourage departed Israel carrying along with them one of the most precious artifacts of Judaism...the Ark of the Covenant...Ole mom knew what she was doing!...

If one wonders how the priests could possibly have allowed such an apparent catastrophe...one must recall the history of the Ark...the fact that almost as many Hebrews had been killed by an out-of-control weapon as had enemies of Israel ...The Ark was in many respects an accident waiting to happen...It was locked away in the Temple not so much to protect it from bad guys...but to protect the good guys from the Ark's random lazer blasts...And the only people who could periodically get close to it were the sons who were leaving on a jet plane with Menelik...

Menelik and the Ark Boys took the Ark to Egypt and there on the island of Elephantine...constructed a Temple similar to King Solomon's Temple...and there they placed the Ark of the Covenant...Jerusalem may have lost a great asset and liability all in one...but the priests always knew where to find it...Just not what to do with it when they saw it...but at least they knew where it was...
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This ties in with the Saga of Tin and Bronze...The location of those lands where tin is found is near the currently known locations of ancient tin mines...Cornwall in Southeastern England southeast of Stonehenge...and Lake Titicaca...in Bolivia...

In effect Ra tried the Babylon gambit...failed...returned to Egypt..and created over 300 years of chaos...The chaos sent Thoth/Quetzalcoatl to Mexico and Central America where he initiated the Mayan calendar...Meanwhile...Viracocha sets up a landing corridor in South America based around the mines of Lake Titicaca...the pivotal points of Cuzco...Ollantaytambu and Machu Picchu...which are determined by the divine wand provided by Viracocha to Manco Capac...the Inca...

At about the same time...a sun temple was built in Egypt that aligned with the summer and winter solstices...the dominant deity was a goddess...usually naked and bare-chested or with rows of beads and necklaces as her sole covering...the first Flower Child...in more detail this Inanna is the...Goddess of Heaven and Earth...Goddess of Love...Goddess of War...Lady of Myriad Offices...

The Descent tells of Inanna leaving the temples in her seven cities...and journeying into the underworld...In the process she loses all the attributes of her queendom in seven stages...the Dance of the Seven Veils...and upon arriving in the Underworld naked and powerless...is judged...condemned...executed and her corpse hung from a nail on the wall...

When tin supplies in the Near East improved...people appeared on the Near Eastern scene as well...The Greeks...Curiously at about the same time...Silbury Hill in England was constructed in England known as Cornwall...the only other major place in the world where tin ore was found it its original lodes...It’s a small world after all...and was such even in ancient times...

The gods had become very aware of a threat to their spaceport from the massed armies in southern Canaan...The newly named Abraham might have helped to turn the tide for the patriarchal gods...but as had become evident to the them over the centuries...humanity could sometimes dictate events and circumstances contrary to the wishes of the gods...

But if that same man was faced with army ants on the move...then he would almost certainly be overwhelmed...The same applied to the gods with their long lives and great weapons...And now their spaceport was threatened by a hoard of humans...The result?...The gods approved the use of nuclear weapons...They needed to teach humanity a lesson...and put them in their place...again...

Sodom and Gomorrah were bombed with atomic weapons and thereafter wiped from the face of the earth!...Talk about your over kill...
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Settle, great writing tonite!! Thanx so much! (and hope you're feeling much better :)

I thought it might be handy to compile a list here of the various people you're referencing.... for those who don't study/know the names outside of certain cultures. I'm not asserting this list is accurate; merely stating after much study, it makes historical sense :)

Persons of Interest (Nibiruan Council - and off-spring) with their corresponding names in various cultures :



ANU (Nibiruan) - Anshar (sumerian), Ged/Seb (egyptian), Kronos (greek), Saturn (roman); Savitar (sanskrit), Tvashtar (hindi), Akanchob (mayan), Inti/Punchau (incan)

NINKHURSAG (Nibiruan) - Ninmah (sumerian), Ninti (hittite), Isis (egyptian), Hera (greek), Juno (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Hariti (hindi), Coatlicue (mayan)

ISHKUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Teshub (hittite), Horus (egyptian), Ares (greek), Mars (roman), Mitra (sanskrit), Mithras (hindi), Huitzilopochti (mayan

ANTU (Nibiruan) - Apsu/Nintud (sumerian), Nut/Neith (egyptian), Rhea (greek), Ops (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Apo (hindi), Akna (mayan)

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ENKI (Nibiruan) - EA/Urki (sumerian), Ptah - Khnum (egyptian), Adonai/Jehova (semetic), Poseidon (greek), Vulcan (roman), Agni (sanskrit), Ahriman/Shiva (hindi), Itzamna (mayan)

ENLIL (Nibiruan) - Asshur (summerian), Osiris (egyptian), Ba'al (canaanite), Yahweh/Allah/El (semitic), Zeus (greek), Jupiter (roman), Indra (sanskrit), Vishnu (hindi), Tlaloc (mayan)

NINKI (Nibiruan) - Damkina (sumerian), Nephthys (egyptian), Libya (greek), Africa (roman), Svaha (sanskrit), Ganga (hindi)

NINLIL (Nibiruan) - Nammu (sumerian); Ma'at (egyptian), Asherah (canaanite), Maia (greek), Majesta (roman), Indrani (sanskrit), Maya (mayan)


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NANNAR (Nibiruan) - Sin (sumerian), Thoth (egyptian), Allah (semitic), Hermes (greek), Mercury (roman), Sudhanvan (sanskrit), Buddha (hindi), Quetzalcoatl (mayan)

ISH.KUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Moloch (canaanite), Yahweh (semitic)

UTU (Nibiruan) - Shamash (sumerian), Harpocrates (egyptian), Apollo (greek), Helios (roman), Rudra (sanskrit), Rama (hindi), Xochipili (mayan)

INANNA (Nibiruan) - Ishtar (sumerian), Hathor (egyptian), Aphrodite (greek), Venus (roman), Ushas (sanskrit), Lakshmi (hindi)

MARDUK (Nibiruan) - Bel (sumerian), Ashur (assyrian), Ra/Amon-Ra (egyptian)

NINURTA (Nibiruan) - Ningirsu - Nimrod (sumerian)

NERGAL (Nibiruan) - Erra (sumerian)

NINGISHZIDDA (Nibiruan) - (sumerian), Thoth/Tehuti (egyptian), Hermes (greek), Quetzalcoaltl - Kukulkan - Xiuhtecuhtli - Topiltzin (mesoamerica)



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This ties in with the Saga of Tin and Bronze...The location of those lands where tin is found is near the currently known locations of ancient tin mines...Cornwall in Southeastern England southeast of Stonehenge...and Lake Titicaca...in Bolivia...

In effect Ra tried the Babylon gambit...failed...returned to Egypt..and created over 300 years of chaos...The chaos sent Thoth/Quetzalcoatl to Mexico and Central America where he initiated the Mayan calendar...Meanwhile...Viracocha sets up a landing corridor in South America based around the mines of Lake Titicaca...the pivotal points of Cuzco...Ollantaytambu and Machu Picchu...which are determined by the divine wand provided by Viracocha to Manco Capac...the Inca...

At about the same time...a sun temple was built in Egypt that aligned with the summer and winter solstices...the dominant deity was a goddess...usually naked and bare-chested or with rows of beads and necklaces as her sole covering...the first Flower Child...in more detail this Inanna is the...Goddess of Heaven and Earth...Goddess of Love...Goddess of War...Lady of Myriad Offices...

The Descent tells of Inanna leaving the temples in her seven cities...and journeying into the underworld...In the process she loses all the attributes of her queendom in seven stages...the Dance of the Seven Veils...and upon arriving in the Underworld naked and powerless...is judged...condemned...executed and her corpse hung from a nail on the wall...

When tin supplies in the Near East improved...people appeared on the Near Eastern scene as well...The Greeks...Curiously at about the same time...Silbury Hill in England was constructed in England known as Cornwall...the only other major place in the world where tin ore was found it its original lodes...It’s a small world after all...and was such even in ancient times...

The gods had become very aware of a threat to their spaceport from the massed armies in southern Canaan...The newly named Abraham might have helped to turn the tide for the patriarchal gods...but as had become evident to the them over the centuries...humanity could sometimes dictate events and circumstances contrary to the wishes of the gods...

But if that same man was faced with army ants on the move...then he would almost certainly be overwhelmed...The same applied to the gods with their long lives and great weapons...And now their spaceport was threatened by a hoard of humans...The result?...The gods approved the use of nuclear weapons...They needed to teach humanity a lesson...and put them in their place...again...

Sodom and Gomorrah were bombed with atomic weapons and thereafter wiped from the face of the earth!...Talk about your over kill...
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Settle, great writing tonite!! Thanx so much! (and hope you're feeling much better :)

I thought it might be handy to compile a list here of the various people you're referencing.... for those who don't study/know the names outside of certain cultures. I'm not asserting this list is accurate; merely stating after much study, it makes historical sense :)

Persons of Interest (Nibiruan Council - and off-spring) with their corresponding names in various cultures :



ANU (Nibiruan) - Anshar (sumerian), Ged/Seb (egyptian), Kronos (greek), Saturn (roman); Savitar (sanskrit), Tvashtar (hindi), Akanchob (mayan), Inti/Punchau (incan)

NINKHURSAG (Nibiruan) - Ninmah (sumerian), Ninti (hittite), Isis (egyptian), Hera (greek), Juno (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Hariti (hindi), Coatlicue (mayan)

ISHKUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Teshub (hittite), Horus (egyptian), Ares (greek), Mars (roman), Mitra (sanskrit), Mithras (hindi), Huitzilopochti (mayan

ANTU (Nibiruan) - Apsu/Nintud (sumerian), Nut/Neith (egyptian), Rhea (greek), Ops (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Apo (hindi), Akna (mayan)

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ENKI (Nibiruan) - EA/Urki (sumerian), Ptah - Khnum (egyptian), Adonai/Jehova (semetic), Poseidon (greek), Vulcan (roman), Agni (sanskrit), Ahriman/Shiva (hindi), Itzamna (mayan)

ENLIL (Nibiruan) - Asshur (summerian), Osiris (egyptian), Ba'al (canaanite), Yahweh/Allah/El (semitic), Zeus (greek), Jupiter (roman), Indra (sanskrit), Vishnu (hindi), Tlaloc (mayan)

NINKI (Nibiruan) - Damkina (sumerian), Nephthys (egyptian), Libya (greek), Africa (roman), Svaha (sanskrit), Ganga (hindi)

NINLIL (Nibiruan) - Nammu (sumerian); Ma'at (egyptian), Asherah (canaanite), Maia (greek), Majesta (roman), Indrani (sanskrit), Maya (mayan)


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NANNAR (Nibiruan) - Sin (sumerian), Thoth (egyptian), Allah (semitic), Hermes (greek), Mercury (roman), Sudhanvan (sanskrit), Buddha (hindi), Quetzalcoatl (mayan)

ISH.KUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Moloch (canaanite), Yahweh (semitic)

UTU (Nibiruan) - Shamash (sumerian), Harpocrates (egyptian), Apollo (greek), Helios (roman), Rudra (sanskrit), Rama (hindi), Xochipili (mayan)

INANNA (Nibiruan) - Ishtar (sumerian), Hathor (egyptian), Aphrodite (greek), Venus (roman), Ushas (sanskrit), Lakshmi (hindi)

MARDUK (Nibiruan) - Bel (sumerian), Ashur (assyrian), Ra/Amon-Ra (egyptian)

NINURTA (Nibiruan) - Ningirsu - Nimrod (sumerian)

NERGAL (Nibiruan) - Erra (sumerian)

NINGISHZIDDA (Nibiruan) - (sumerian), Thoth/Tehuti (egyptian), Hermes (greek), Quetzalcoaltl - Kukulkan - Xiuhtecuhtli - Topiltzin (mesoamerica)



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This ties in with the Saga of Tin and Bronze...The location of those lands where tin is found is near the currently known locations of ancient tin mines...Cornwall in Southeastern England southeast of Stonehenge...and Lake Titicaca...in Bolivia...

In effect Ra tried the Babylon gambit...failed...returned to Egypt..and created over 300 years of chaos...The chaos sent Thoth/Quetzalcoatl to Mexico and Central America where he initiated the Mayan calendar...Meanwhile...Viracocha sets up a landing corridor in South America based around the mines of Lake Titicaca...the pivotal points of Cuzco...Ollantaytambu and Machu Picchu...which are determined by the divine wand provided by Viracocha to Manco Capac...the Inca...

At about the same time...a sun temple was built in Egypt that aligned with the summer and winter solstices...the dominant deity was a goddess...usually naked and bare-chested or with rows of beads and necklaces as her sole covering...the first Flower Child...in more detail this Inanna is the...Goddess of Heaven and Earth...Goddess of Love...Goddess of War...Lady of Myriad Offices...

The Descent tells of Inanna leaving the temples in her seven cities...and journeying into the underworld...In the process she loses all the attributes of her queendom in seven stages...the Dance of the Seven Veils...and upon arriving in the Underworld naked and powerless...is judged...condemned...executed and her corpse hung from a nail on the wall...

When tin supplies in the Near East improved...people appeared on the Near Eastern scene as well...The Greeks...Curiously at about the same time...Silbury Hill in England was constructed in England known as Cornwall...the only other major place in the world where tin ore was found it its original lodes...It’s a small world after all...and was such even in ancient times...

The gods had become very aware of a threat to their spaceport from the massed armies in southern Canaan...The newly named Abraham might have helped to turn the tide for the patriarchal gods...but as had become evident to the them over the centuries...humanity could sometimes dictate events and circumstances contrary to the wishes of the gods...

But if that same man was faced with army ants on the move...then he would almost certainly be overwhelmed...The same applied to the gods with their long lives and great weapons...And now their spaceport was threatened by a hoard of humans...The result?...The gods approved the use of nuclear weapons...They needed to teach humanity a lesson...and put them in their place...again...

Sodom and Gomorrah were bombed with atomic weapons and thereafter wiped from the face of the earth!...Talk about your over kill...
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Settle, great writing tonite!! Thanx so much! (and hope you're feeling much better :)

I thought it might be handy to compile a list here of the various people you're referencing.... for those who don't study/know the names outside of certain cultures. I'm not asserting this list is accurate; merely stating after much study, it makes historical sense :)

Persons of Interest (Nibiruan Council - and off-spring) with their corresponding names in various cultures :



ANU (Nibiruan) - Anshar (sumerian), Ged/Seb (egyptian), Kronos (greek), Saturn (roman); Savitar (sanskrit), Tvashtar (hindi), Akanchob (mayan), Inti/Punchau (incan)

NINKHURSAG (Nibiruan) - Ninmah (sumerian), Ninti (hittite), Isis (egyptian), Hera (greek), Juno (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Hariti (hindi), Coatlicue (mayan)

ISHKUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Teshub (hittite), Horus (egyptian), Ares (greek), Mars (roman), Mitra (sanskrit), Mithras (hindi), Huitzilopochti (mayan

ANTU (Nibiruan) - Apsu/Nintud (sumerian), Nut/Neith (egyptian), Rhea (greek), Ops (roman), Aditi (sanskrit), Apo (hindi), Akna (mayan)

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ENKI (Nibiruan) - EA/Urki (sumerian), Ptah - Khnum (egyptian), Adonai/Jehova (semetic), Poseidon (greek), Vulcan (roman), Agni (sanskrit), Ahriman/Shiva (hindi), Itzamna (mayan)

ENLIL (Nibiruan) - Asshur (summerian), Osiris (egyptian), Ba'al (canaanite), Yahweh/Allah/El (semitic), Zeus (greek), Jupiter (roman), Indra (sanskrit), Vishnu (hindi), Tlaloc (mayan)

NINKI (Nibiruan) - Damkina (sumerian), Nephthys (egyptian), Libya (greek), Africa (roman), Svaha (sanskrit), Ganga (hindi)

NINLIL (Nibiruan) - Nammu (sumerian); Ma'at (egyptian), Asherah (canaanite), Maia (greek), Majesta (roman), Indrani (sanskrit), Maya (mayan)


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NANNAR (Nibiruan) - Sin (sumerian), Thoth (egyptian), Allah (semitic), Hermes (greek), Mercury (roman), Sudhanvan (sanskrit), Buddha (hindi), Quetzalcoatl (mayan)

ISH.KUR (Nibiruan) - Adad (sumerian), Moloch (canaanite), Yahweh (semitic)

UTU (Nibiruan) - Shamash (sumerian), Harpocrates (egyptian), Apollo (greek), Helios (roman), Rudra (sanskrit), Rama (hindi), Xochipili (mayan)

INANNA (Nibiruan) - Ishtar (sumerian), Hathor (egyptian), Aphrodite (greek), Venus (roman), Ushas (sanskrit), Lakshmi (hindi)

MARDUK (Nibiruan) - Bel (sumerian), Ashur (assyrian), Ra/Amon-Ra (egyptian)

NINURTA (Nibiruan) - Ningirsu - Nimrod (sumerian)

NERGAL (Nibiruan) - Erra (sumerian)

NINGISHZIDDA (Nibiruan) - (sumerian), Thoth/Tehuti (egyptian), Hermes (greek), Quetzalcoaltl - Kukulkan - Xiuhtecuhtli - Topiltzin (mesoamerica)



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Sure glad I'm alive, right here, right now...

What we're gonna see is going to be one for the ages...

As in the time of Noah (Gentetic corruption), so shall it be in the time of armageddon (genetic corruption)...

Through destruction we are witness to the salvation of our gentic code, the very tree of life...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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On the other side of the world at the beginning of the second millennium...the Olmec Civilization sprung up along the Mexican gulf coast....It was in full bloom by 1500 to 1200 B.C.E....It stretched across MesoAmerica by 800 B.C.E. By the beginning of the Christian era...the Olmecs abandoned their sites...and even attempted to bury the colossal heads...Whoever gained access to the sites afterward made every effort to destroy them...the Olmecs appeared to have been miners...having come to the New World to extract gold and other metals...The legends of Votan speak of tunneling through mountains...over the dale...onward to grangma's house!

Among the Olden Gods whose worship was adopted from the Olmecs...was the god Tepeyolloti...meaning Heart of the Mountain...a bearded God of Caves whose temple had to be of stone...preferably built inside a mountain...The God of The Gold and Tin Mines?...Where was the cowardly lion?

At La Venta the art of the period seemed to reflect a tradition based in large part on meridian transits of stars occurring on the solstices and equinoxes around 2000 B.C.E... This would make La Venta the earliest sacred center in MesoAmerica...preceding Teotihuacan except for the legendary time when gods alone were there... Much of humanities TRUE history has been lost over the ages...Or rather destroyed...

The reign of the 5th Capac...the time frame of 1000 years was introduced as a Great Period...with centuries and periods being 50 years each...In the reign of the 12th Capac...there were Men of great stature...giants who were settling on the whole coast...But they provoked the Great god who inturn who destroyed them with a heavenly blast...The old war of the gods in the Middle East are now in Middle America as well...Not everything blamed on meteors is true...the blast of a nuke can and will cause an ELE...but we are not allowed to know this...so windex your brain!

For what it's worth in 1971 a secret passageway was discovered under the Pyramid of the Sun...Also some 300 books were removed the contained ALL the knowledge if the Universe...The flooring was covered with thick sheets of mica...a silicone whose special properties make it resistant to water...heat...and electrical currents....Sounds like the first true spill proof flooring!!

The Classic Mayan period begins...It was five centuries before the Spanish arrival...the Maya abandoned their sacred cities and let the jungle take them over...There is the possibility that at some crucial calendar date in the ninth century A.D...a prophesied event failed to occur...All the cycles came together...added up to naught...and naughty...so the ceremonial centers and the cities dedicated to the gods were abandoned...and the jungle cast its green mantle over the domain of the Serpent Gods...The return was given by the serpent god...it will happen in his secret number 52...

At Palenque the stepped pyramid called the Temple of Inscriptions has a secret internal stairway...at the bottom of which is buried a ruler...Pacal...the Shield...who reigned in Palenque in C.E. 615-683...He was unusually tall...In the Great Plaza of Tikal...they buried the skeleton of another unusually tall man....Tikal was known to have had rulers reigning from C.E. 317 to A.D...It was not a good year...the weather was too hot...and no window units for cooling made life a bitch...

This is also the time of the reign of the 62nd Capac...which ended somewhat abruptly with earthquakes...comets...omens of destruction flying around...wars and all manner of calamities...Sounds a lot like headlines in today's paper...The survivors fled to Tampu-Toco....Tampu-Toco was probably Machu Pichu with its famous Three Windows...

It is interesting that the end or massive change in one civilization corresponds to the date of the beginning of another...It's almost as if one civilization is defeated by all manner of calamity...and the victor rushes into the power vacuum and shampoo!...
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Walk with me through the deserts...and across the mountains...There are Seven Doors of knowledge...the keys of knowledge that have been scattered upon the winds...The keys were not granted to me...the author...They were discovered once again...by me among the ruins of all the temples...

Where they have lain for thousands of years...waiting for someone to fi nd them...Some of them were discovered hidden among the ruins...While a few were in plain sight for all to see. And rather than guarding them jealously in my house...I placed them in the town square for all to see...

Some secrets come with strings attached...and the recipient is not free to do with them as he or she wishes....Alas...some of those secrets the author holds and shall retain...until a time in the not so distant future...

That which one gains freely...one is free to do with as one will...Allow this work to be used as your introduction into a hidden world which has always lain right at your fingertips...

If the reader should find awareness of what lies hidden in plain sight...then know these words have served their true purpose...

(THE SOUL COLLECTOR)
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SOUL COLLECTOR...Introduction...1

Many countless journeys through time and space I have
traveled...In these travels...I have met many Gods...Some friends...and some foe...Although I hate none of them...there are a few I should have stepped around...rather than endured the pain of knowing them...

But I also know that this is a part of life...You
live..learn..and then you travel on...Although the reason for these thoughts are unknown to me at this time...I feel urged to share them...To some it may make no sense...while to others it will...

As life’s travels take you through many trials and tribulations...each with their own purpose in molding you into your being...You must believe that no matter how bad or pointless something seems at the time...it has a purpose...In time it will be as clear to you as it needs to be...

Since birth humanity is taught civilizations definition of
right and wrong...and told what is real and what is not...I was allowed to be myself...and to keep my mind and heart open to all that is around me...As most are content to walk through this life with blinders on..I chose to see everything as it is...

Which led to the choices I made about my own destiny...I also know that these choices had to be made...So that in
the future...they would guide me...Remember...upon a tree are many branches with many different levels of being...Time and time again men go from limb to limb...in search of the easiest and most pleasurable route...They spend many hours...thinking of an easy way out of their problems...

It seems that not one of you want to put forth effort into
creating a new...and fresh way that others may seek as well...Such as a tree bends to the light of the sun...we too can help others find a fresh...and more pleasant end at a difficult time...By living as a light to humanity...in turn causing them to bend in a new and more productive direction...
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2....

I also know that you sometimes fail to stop along your path...and take in the beauty of all that is around you...Humanity can get so involved with the struggles of everyday life...they forget the truth in living...Some choose to see only the bad in the world...

The wars, the poverty...lack of brotherhood among them I agree that the world has become a sad place to exist...but
exist you must...Know that life offers many pleasures...many
chances at true happiness...But you must open your eyes and
hearts to all things...and allow the passion to flow again...You must understand the truth in your very existence...if you wish to continue on...

I must sound as I am mad with all my rambling...Oh well...if being what I am...is being completely mad...then I welcome it with open arms...And so should you...Know that I am the definitive line that you dare cross between worlds...Or will you continue to live in the illusion...created to blind you from the truth?...

This journey has been long and hard...Many a mile has your
weary body traveled...You search for the answers as you seek
the truth...The sun has beat down mercilessness upon your
weary bones...You searched both high and low for anything
of enlightenment...any small morsel of knowledge...Your eyes
always squinting from the blinding sun...Your feet bound in
rags...and yet you still travel on...

Over the next horizon, maybe...just maybe you will find the
truth...As you continue on...with the Cloak of Longing hung
heavy on your frame...Its dusty weight a reminder of your
immortality...Yet your mind still cries to be free...Free to travel the ripples of time...
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3.....
To take you beyond all realms of being...you trod on in relentless pursuit...never wavering from the
responsibilities to mankind...A sense of urgency as overwhelming as the first breath of life...has erupted in this world...Ripples of discontent have filled
the air with cries of anguish...and disgust...You cannot help but weep for the souls entering the world as it is today...

They must make their journey in these times of peril, and the cycle must go on. No one is exempt from life’s consequence. So they continue to travel on, leaving no stone unturned. You must succeed. You must not fail as you travel. Your eyes scan each new horizon for the answer, for hope, for knowledge. Your weary body begs for rest, your eyes water from the lack of sleep, your heart and soul weep.

You must not waver from the path your on. You keep hope that by some chance, by some miracle, this can all be corrected. That humanity can be saved from certain destruction. My mind beats this nightmare into submission, lifting me up to give me sight. I have seen kingdoms rise from stone, only to return. My tongue never learns their language, for there is no use. They will not be here but a few moments of my life.

Lifetimes to them are but a few beats of this dragon’s heart. A tear slides down my cheek, as I look down at the fires on my Earth below. This was once fertile land, rich with my kind, and the chivalry of men of old. Men with honor, and of purpose. The word mankind carried a different meaning then. Now I just watch, waiting for the fi nal toll of the mission bell.

The ring that will split the night, and signal that man has ceased to exist once again. A victim of his own devices, of his own need for the power that was just out of his grasp.
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4.....


Are you the keeper of the light?...Are you the candle in
the dark?...You sit and wonder with all that is in you...And ask yourself…am I even real?...You meditate and wait to face the wind...blinded by the darkness of a heavy heart...You stand alone here…waiting for the breath of life to fill your lungs once again...

To hear your own shuddering as I begin again…one with one...You wonder...am I to always be this way?...Am I now always to sit and wonder…what if?...Or will it all come to pass as it was written long ago before I came here?...Where is here?...Am I in the right time and space for what I seek?...or am I too late for the promise of a new day?...Am I truly damned?...Or is this just a stigma placed on me by humanity?...

I feel alive in darkness...I use to cower from the light...I
did not seek redemption...I ask not for forgiveness...As I walk through this time...this place...I want to awaken...I want to look into the faces of man...as they await the fate of this world...I often wonder if they will make it?...I wonder if they see the signs that give them warning?...I always wanted to understand what runs through a man‘s mind at the end....

As I offer an outstretched hand...I wish that time would just stand still...I have so much to do...so many cups yet to fill...I want so much for humanity...I bleed from my eyes as I look upon their pain...I can feel it deep within my very soul...Can there be hope?...Are we to just watch humanity fade into the voids of their own demise?...

As they sink deeper within themselves...and forget the honor
of living...I sometimes wonder...what caused this self destructive mode they are in...Could it be that they sense my father does not feel anything…anymore?...I can remember times of the past...Times more simple...or so they seemed to be...Have they all given up?...Why does it appear they have forgot what The Watchers taught them?...Or is it that we have forgot how to teach them?...Where and when will it all end?...
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5.....
I am stepping from the shadows in which I have lurked for
thousands of years...My vision again sharp...my senses clear once more...I took time to heal my spirit...Also time to remember...and years to scour the back of my mind to find the remnants of my true being...

I remember now...I remember...and I can breathe once again...Now that I am truly here...let education begin...I have much work to do...Much to teach...so much to say in the coming days...They should live as if each day will be the last....They now have no guarantee that there will be a tomorrow for them...

And we are neither judge nor jury..we are merely travelers...Here just like everyone else that has passed this very way eons ago...Travelers with hopes and dreams just like them...Let not your life be filled with the wondering of…what if?...Let your life be a song that others will sing for all eternity...Live...That’s all there is...just Live..for now.
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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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he simply stated that we have no idea how we became to be in existance and we should not believe the ones who create fantasy

easy and 25 words
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Perhaps the One that created us...does not know where He comes from?

However the "Hall of Creations" is His. hugs
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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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he simply stated that we have no idea how we became to be in existance and we should not believe the ones who create fantasy

easy and 25 words
love, drhoecker
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Perhaps the One that created us...does not know where He comes from?

However the "Hall of Creations" is His. hugs
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maybe he/she/it does but we're not privy yet.. or not... we know/ don't know soon enough... death being our trip... or maybe not....

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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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he simply stated that we have no idea how we became to be in existance and we should not believe the ones who create fantasy

easy and 25 words
love, drhoecker
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Perhaps the One that created us...does not know where He comes from?

However the "Hall of Creations" is His. hugs
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maybe he/she/it does but we're not privy yet.. or not... we know/ don't know soon enough... death being our trip... or maybe not....
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It might be a little of both?
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he simply stated that we have no idea how we became to be in existance and we should not believe the ones who create fantasy

easy and 25 words
love, drhoecker
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Perhaps the One that created us...does not know where He comes from?

However the "Hall of Creations" is His. hugs
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maybe he/she/it does but we're not privy yet.. or not... we know/ don't know soon enough... death being our trip... or maybe not....
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It might be a little of both?
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think so... or maybe not.. lemmie think about it... Grin ;)
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Re: Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.
Finally have a working computer... Wow, this thread has gone far.
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

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If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

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Re: Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.
I somehow understood all of that. THankyou
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[link to abundanthope.net] now go here and spend a bit more than 2 hours. The truth of your origins has jack shit to do with bodies on this world. Your origin in the universal MIND. And not anything else.
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Re: Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.
In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.
Quoted OP.


You have all of that wrong too OP, all of it above and your posting after that. YOU COME FROM CREATOR and not any other source and you are confusing bodies with who you really are. What the fuck does the lable "interventionist mean?" your one and only label should be I AM THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE< other than society words like momma, pappa, aunty etc

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