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Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

 
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When the early translators came upon passages that could have been and should have been interpreted the way Sitchin interpreted them, they had no conceivable frame of reference for such terminology. Thus, they shoehorned it to fit into their own restricted world views, and because this nonsense was created by "experts" of that time, modern experts have inevitably been brainwashed by their education process to believe that no other translation is needed, much less preferable.
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> BullsEye! <
That's one of the main issues that is bearing on today's folks.

Its now *time,* that all this knowledge, that so many of us have been researching for decades, goes mainstream.

Hats off for collating this and putting it in a cohesive chapter man, truly.

I Thank You for the many that will learn and not mention the work you have done.

For This Earth.
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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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I wish it was less than 48 minutes.

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This^^^

Primordial soup is dumb...oh by the way, the aliens came from primordial soup.....LOL
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All you religtards don't even read the post and then talk shit on it.
stfu
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I actually read every word. He explained that the earth's development was intervened in by aliens but posited no explanation as to their origin. Since God has been eliminated, the only other option is the primordial soup that he previously deemed impossible. Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
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No, the other option is that there was no beginning as all things are eternal and eternally changing!
 Quoting: Ozicell


I was talking about the options in his argument, showing his flawed logic. Your option was not presented, thus not discussed. It is interesting however, though I would argue that time might not be exactly the way humans perceive it. It might be the case that eternity and infinity are rendered null by a structure of time that we don't yet understand. A fair point though.
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So you "OP" have a heart felt opinion about mankinds origin.
And you dispute other theories.

Welcome to the world. We all have differing opinions.

You, like so many others on here do not allow for others to have a different opinion.

Until there is 100% proof... all there is are theories and opinion.

Good day.

Hope you don't loose your power.
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Dear Earthlingz, it is time to spills the bean once and for all mankind:

We created you Human with Martian & Monkey DNA in Afrika. The reason is because some dimwits Martians scientist had ignored our holy oneness warning and blew up Mars many eons ago and we had no choice but to merge the Martian in you.

Hey better than swinging in tree's eh?.

Much love & light!.

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Is their a "God"...a "Creator" of all things? Earth, universe, ALL. Yes, I believe their is. But who's "God" is correct? Which religion? I believe they are all correct...and all wrong. I think each holds pieces of a puzzle we will never see completed. Each also contains stuff, crap, filler placed their by the personal agendas and bias of the writer. So often people sell themselves short fully 100% believing in their Bible, Qurah, Torah, etc. And then to make matters worse they prosecute others for not following their "God"...so of course those people will not be "saved". My favorite quote: He who claims to know everything is the most dangerous person of all. I don't have all the answers. But my heart tells me that the Creator loves ALL of us...and would want us to do the same. Also why not look for alternative clues outside of mainstream 'bibles'? It is more pieces to add to the puzzle. To ignore the writings of civilizations that came before us is a huge mistake. Are we also going to start saying that our elderly are no longer wise? hf
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Well done OP a good post. After a lifetime of study .. I pretty much agree.

I got a degree in Zoology 50 years ago and worked in biology fields for many years. Very familiar with evolution theory and quite a bit in Human evolution.

iamwith
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All you religtards don't even read the post and then talk shit on it.
stfu
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I actually read every word. He explained that the earth's development was intervened in by aliens but posited no explanation as to their origin. Since God has been eliminated, the only other option is the primordial soup that he previously deemed impossible. Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
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No, the other option is that there was no beginning as all things are eternal and eternally changing!
 Quoting: Ozicell


I was talking about the options in his argument, showing his flawed logic. Your option was not presented, thus not discussed. It is interesting however, though I would argue that time might not be exactly the way humans perceive it. It might be the case that eternity and infinity are rendered null by a structure of time that we don't yet understand. A fair point though.
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Point taken - Thanks hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of iron-silicate dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) super-cluster would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made so that I could exist!” - Peter Walker
 Quoting: Heretic 333


Which Peter Walker said this, Heretic? Talk about a "kick you in the head and make you rethink your beliefs" quote!! Holy Hannah!
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Is there a "God"...a "Creator" of all things? Earth, universe, ALL. Yes, I believe there is. But whose "God" is correct? Which religion? I believe they are all correct...and all wrong. I think each holds pieces of a puzzle we will never see completed. Each also contains stuff, crap, filler placed there by the personal agendas and bias of the writer. So often people sell themselves short fully 100% believing in their Bible, Qur'an, Torah, etc. And then, to make matters worse, they persecute others for not following their "God"...so of course those people will not be "saved". My favorite quote: He who claims to know everything is the most dangerous person of all. I don't have all the answers, but my heart tells me that the Creator loves ALL of us...and would want us to do the same. Also why not look for alternative clues outside of mainstream 'bibles'? It is more pieces to add to the puzzle. To ignore the writings of civilizations that came before us is a huge mistake. Are we also going to start saying that our elderly are no longer wise? hf
 Quoting: SkinnyChic


Beautiful. We stand upon the shoulders of giants...

Even our understanding of the Divine is evolving and growing.

Last Edited by Éireann on 08/28/2012 12:23 AM
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.
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bump one question, who created Yoda?yoda
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I actually read every word. He explained that the earth's development was intervened in by aliens but posited no explanation as to their origin. Since God has been eliminated, the only other option is the primordial soup that he previously deemed impossible. Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17299239


No, the other option is that there was no beginning as all things are eternal and eternally changing!
 Quoting: Ozicell


I was talking about the options in his argument, showing his flawed logic. Your option was not presented, thus not discussed. It is interesting however, though I would argue that time might not be exactly the way humans perceive it. It might be the case that eternity and infinity are rendered null by a structure of time that we don't yet understand. A fair point though.
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Point taken - Thanks hf
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peace
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According to the GFL, all will be revealed in a few months. The game will be over. No more mysteries. Time to move on to a new game.

It was fun, though. Playing human. Learning pain, hunger, emotions, love, hate, dominance, submission, want, deprevation, power, fatigue, winning, losing, challenges, upsets, loss, cold, heat, and the drudgery of Mondays and going back to work.

Personally, I've had enough. I'm ready for the Golden Age. But those that want to keep playing I say, "Go for it. Keep playing. Be all you can be. Experience all that you can experience. Godspeed to you."

Throughout my centuries of incarnations I think I've played-out all the scenarios I have the energy to play. All that remains in me now is love. And love is all I have left to give.
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Most power companies allow payment arrangements. If you truly believe in your drivel, you would think of the masses and call the power company to negotiate.
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bump one question, who created Yoda?yoda
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the force....duh.
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I don't know if I can ever portray what truley boggles
my mind, so please listen to what I have to say glp.

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I will finish upgrading this post later.
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If nothing else ... you sir need to contact a good publishing company!
RightMama
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Is there a "God"...a "Creator" of all things? Earth, universe, ALL. Yes, I believe there is. But whose "God" is correct? Which religion? I believe they are all correct...and all wrong. I think each holds pieces of a puzzle we will never see completed. Each also contains stuff, crap, filler placed there by the personal agendas and bias of the writer. So often people sell themselves short fully 100% believing in their Bible, Qur'an, Torah, etc. And then, to make matters worse, they persecute others for not following their "God"...so of course those people will not be "saved". My favorite quote: He who claims to know everything is the most dangerous person of all. I don't have all the answers, but my heart tells me that the Creator loves ALL of us...and would want us to do the same. Also why not look for alternative clues outside of mainstream 'bibles'? It is more pieces to add to the puzzle. To ignore the writings of civilizations that came before us is a huge mistake. Are we also going to start saying that our elderly are no longer wise? hf
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Beautiful. We stand upon the shoulders of giants...

Even our understanding of the Divine is evolving and growing.
 Quoting: Éireann


grouphug Thank you.
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Co story bro
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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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Is it a bit to hard for your boobs to understand ?
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I actually read every word. He explained that the earth's development was intervened in by aliens but posited no explanation as to their origin.
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Even if aliens created us or even if "god" exists, how did they come to existence? We still can't explain it and probably never will
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Awesome man...I'm still waiting for the origins of man, but right on dude, a seminal work bud...

clappa
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You didn't even read it did you? Typical intolerant religious nut.... He clearly states that life was brought here by an extra-terrestrial source, that could be god or some other life form. I simply can't understand how every religion thinks their 100% correct, just think about it for a second, the bible as well as most other religious books have been rewritten over and over. Most religions have many similar aspects, hinting towards a common story of our origin that has been warped over the years through culture and retelling.
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Actually, he clearly states, "We don't think God did it." that only leaves " other life form" whose creation he doesn't attempt to explain.
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Yea and that's why his post is meaningless. If he can't explain how life itself came to existence, why does it matter how humans came to existence?
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~You all missed the the info in the post~ FFS!
Read Zacharia Sitchin's work, as well as some others who have researched and come to the same inescapable findings.

*That* is where the answers to those questions are.
hes not going to cliffnote more than 12 WHOLE BOOKS to you.

And as much as I would like to get you the info, you simply must do you own reading and research.

Its just too much to nutshell accurately and present the enormous detail that has been the work of many for almost 50 years.

I mean really, did you even read his post, it wasnt all that long, and the tip of the iceberg, so to speak about the infomation that truly ties all the related philosophies together.

Plus he did state he had data loss, and learned a harsh lesson about never posting in a web forum input box. He even stated he wants to update this to include what most of you who seem to not be able or willing to check out on your own.

Which would be a great ride and education! Great stuff to be learned!

Hope this helps.
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Reading it 7:30 in the morning.. Now THIS is a GLP thread worth your time! hf coffee4
Love is not the game, life is.
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When we wake up in this "reality" every morning, we are actually falling asleep, because only in our dreams we are truly awake.
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We are not our body, nor our mind. We are not the voice in our body, nor our head. We are the the here and now, experiencing without any input from either of the mentioned above.
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It's not about others forgiving you, but whether you can forgive yourself.
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It doesn't take much energy to make the wrong decision. But to make the right one, you have to put every fiber of your being to it.
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I know i have a lot to work on. But knowing that there's no hairy ass man in the clouds to judge me when I have little bit of fun on the expense of someone elses ignorance, makes life a whole lot easier.
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Hi Heretic_333, I think your post is well done, but here's my problem with it.

Not even taking into account of God and his power over all things both man made, and naturally made by his hand, lets look at angels, and fallen angels.

They were both given by their creator God an IQ of about 1200. That being said, let us understand that God cast the fallen angels down to earth to do with it as they willed, even though God did have restrictions.

Now consider the average IQ of most humans which is only 70. Not even close to the fallen angels, and we would be viewed by them as something that just fell out of a tree.

Both God, and the fallen angels who are here, and who played a very important part in most past and ancient history have placed stumbling blocks so people like me and you could never figure it all out.

Remember the difference in IQ's? 70 vs. 1200. We only think we know, so you can be pretty sure that about 95% of what you have written is incorrect!

Also, most likely the so called aliens are actually the fallen angels.
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bump
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How did the moon get here?
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Reading it 7:30 in the morning.. Now THIS is a GLP thread worth your time! hf coffee4
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Totally! I'm enjoying the heck out of this thread. Heretic is one of the few writers on this forum that really captures my interest. His threads are always interesting and though provoking.
Éireann~

Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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Great post OP. I cant but wonder though; If this is the truth of our origins, then do our creators have a creator? Just a thought...
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. -Socrates

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