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Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

 
Rudysarsof

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Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


This thread is about disproving primate evolution.

Humans via Evolution...I can disprove. I also have
evidence on how what is truly the case.

This will be the 5th time I will answer this question.

If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.
 Quoting: Heretic_333

So let's say science is wrong. That they are missing something in their studies about earth. Why could it not be that science has it wrong but we still evolved on earth?
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
Revolution starts with R.
Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
Youthfulness begins with you, so do your part and be childish
And remember you can not spell awesome without ME.
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Yeah Heretic 333, the amount of fear among the community regarding this information is frankly staggering to me.

Its not that its unexpected, as you so well explained above, but to me personally its a serious dodge of our responsibility to one another to understand, share and present the truth in its whole... in a manner that is.. digestible, so to speak.

We are; an engineered biological, based on the native animal whose up until that period of times base frequency and subsequent naturally occurring genetic algorithm was supportive of hardy life on this given planet.

We were given a high enough bicameral mind function to question our own existence and be actively creative; the ability to weigh complex structured questions and decisions, yet with enough genetic material withheld as so we could not usurp our engineering creators. yes, lower case 'c' there.

Withheld from our more or less current specie, as you well know, but mentioned for others here, is the subset for proper cellular replication.

hah, feel like Im preaching to the choir, apologies about that.

Watching the video now, but again my Thanks for opening up a conversation I can speak about.

I truly enjoy your depth, wit and the road we are sharing this evening.
Kii of Earth
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EVERYONE!!

WATCH THIS GUY COMPLETELY SLAM GENETICS!!!!



He is a real life hero to me.

But yea Kii of Earth, for a species not even
300,000 years old, HOW THE HELL DO WE HAVE
FOUR THOUSAND GENETIC DISORDERS!!!
AND COUNTING!!!!

How did we evolve from apes who have 48
chromosomes.. with only a handful of disorders.

To a weak and rickety human with only 46!!
and nearly 5000... makes no sense.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Play the video from the beginning. There's a text:"(c)2010 Loyd Pye"
How is that possible? The video is uploaded on 13.04.2009?
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Well it wasn't time travel bro.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Lol bro, he got his copyright in 2010, when the video
itself is a couple years older.

The 2010 message you see was laced into the video.

It was not originally part of it.
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

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If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

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I studied several near death experience cases. In these cases people are coming across veridical information.

This is highly important. In these near death experiences, people will come across highly detailed and specific information, that was impossible to know about, but, that was later proven to be true down to the exact details after the NDE.

This proves the experience wasn't imagined, or merely a construct of the subconscious. Nor can chemical processes, explain, how they came across this veridical information.

When you piece all this information together, a reality of another dimension is revealed. This dimension, is described by only one religious book, the Bible.
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Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


This thread is about disproving primate evolution.

Humans via Evolution...I can disprove. I also have
evidence on how what is truly the case.

This will be the 5th time I will answer this question.

If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.
 Quoting: Heretic_333

So let's say science is wrong. That they are missing something in their studies about earth. Why could it not be that science has it wrong but we still evolved on earth?
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


So you are saying, what if we missed a few details,
but we still in fact evolved on Earth?

Don't get me wrong, I believe in Evolution, but not
Primate Evolution. I know for a fact that in time..
"apes to humans" will be abandoned.

We didnt evolve from monkeys, because we simply just
"appeared out of nowhere" 250 thousand years ago.

The "pre-human" bones we find everywhere, are in fact
"pre-bigfoot" bones.
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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Bumping for a later read - after some coffee!

What little I've read so far has been really interesting .,whether or not I agree . But it's too early to say one way or another.

I can just tell immediately that it will be a great read. Thanks oP
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Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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I took a Bio anthro class once. I asked the professor the question "If being Bi-pedal was so advantageous to the early homos, why don't we have a larger diversity of bi-pedal species?" She replied, "That's a very good question! Get your PHD to find out."

I walked out of class, rolled my eyes, and mumbled to myself. "Yeah because you don't have a fucking clue, and neither does anyone else."
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If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? there would be far better choices for drone miners. why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
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I studied several near death experience cases. In these cases people are coming across veridical information.

This is highly important. In these near death experiences, people will come across highly detailed and specific information, that was impossible to know about, but, that was later proven to be true down to the exact details after the NDE.

This proves the experience wasn't imagined, or merely a construct of the subconscious. Nor can chemical processes, explain, how they came across this veridical information.

When you piece all this information together, a reality of another dimension is revealed. This dimension, is described by only one religious book, the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22746382


No. I practice spirituality more than any science.

All NDE's Ive read about, and had myself. Point to
the reality of Oneness, and reincarnation.

Heaven and Hell are what your subconscious mind creates
upon leaving the body. If you live a life of evil
service to self over others. You will only experience
your fears amidst waddling through the void.

However, You live a life of profound unconditional love,
you give more than take, and you are generally a loving
entity, The joys and adventures your soul will partake in
is just absolute beauty. Until you choose to incarnate
again.

I meditate, astral project, do Maharac sheild envisions...
It all points to the true God. Which is "Source" or
the "spirit" or "soul" of the Universe.

Every conscious thing in the universe, sees through
every conscious thing in the universe, Upon being loving,
and sensing God's omnipresence. You are unconditionally
tapping into the love shared by the entire universe.

The answer to the Great Question. "Why are we here?"

To love and create.

love
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
Kii of Earth

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I took a Bio anthro class once. I asked the professor the question "If being Bi-pedal was so advantageous to the early homos, why don't we have a larger diversity of bi-pedal species?" She replied, "That's a very good question! Get your PHD to find out."

I walked out of class, rolled my eyes, and mumbled to myself. "Yeah because you don't have a fucking clue, and neither does anyone else."
 Quoting: reversefiction



But we do, that is the subject at hand, and the information that is being discussed.

There is much reading and personal research you can do that will clearly and plainly answer that question.
Kii of Earth
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If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? there would be far better choices for drone miners. why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14083131


Well the most reasonable reason I've heard for that is they couldn't take all that equipment with them. So, they needed to enlist the help of a local population.

To the genetic engineering part. Who knows? Maybe they tried and failed miserably. It wasn't possible with the ape brain to make it see in the dark.

The third possibility is. Maybe mining gold wasn't the only thing they set out to do. They were looking for more of a "Swiss army" species that could perform multiple tasks for them.
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Cool post, hope you get around to finishing it
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I took a Bio anthro class once. I asked the professor the question "If being Bi-pedal was so advantageous to the early homos, why don't we have a larger diversity of bi-pedal species?" She replied, "That's a very good question! Get your PHD to find out."

I walked out of class, rolled my eyes, and mumbled to myself. "Yeah because you don't have a fucking clue, and neither does anyone else."
 Quoting: reversefiction



But we do, that is the subject at hand, and the information that is being discussed.

There is much reading and personal research you can do that will clearly and plainly answer that question.
 Quoting: Kii of Earth


I meant in terms of the main stream Anthropological community.
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I studied several near death experience cases. In these cases people are coming across veridical information.

This is highly important. In these near death experiences, people will come across highly detailed and specific information, that was impossible to know about, but, that was later proven to be true down to the exact details after the NDE.

This proves the experience wasn't imagined, or merely a construct of the subconscious. Nor can chemical processes, explain, how they came across this veridical information.

When you piece all this information together, a reality of another dimension is revealed. This dimension, is described by only one religious book, the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22746382


No. I practice spirituality more than any science.

All NDE's Ive read about, and had myself. Point to
the reality of Oneness, and reincarnation.

Heaven and Hell are what your subconscious mind creates
upon leaving the body. If you live a life of evil
service to self over others. You will only experience
your fears amidst waddling through the void.

However, You live a life of profound unconditional love,
you give more than take, and you are generally a loving
entity, The joys and adventures your soul will partake in
is just absolute beauty. Until you choose to incarnate
again.

I meditate, astral project, do Maharac sheild envisions...
It all points to the true God. Which is "Source" or
the "spirit" or "soul" of the Universe.

Every conscious thing in the universe, sees through
every conscious thing in the universe, Upon being loving,
and sensing God's omnipresence. You are unconditionally
tapping into the love shared by the entire universe.

The answer to the Great Question. "Why are we here?"

To love and create.

:love:
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Yes, many NDE, do point to a oneness, but if this is all you study you will mistakenly assume this.

Your assumption is false for a reason. There's three NDE, that was experienced by children. All three children went to heaven. In addition all three came across veridical information. This is strong evidence, that their experience wasn't merely imagined.

Now, these three kids were then revealed more info about the afterlife. What they found, that both heaven and hell exists.
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OP -
Enki
or
EniL
Who will you choose?

He Who Sits On the Right Hand of the Father.

Who?
 Quoting: TenStar'd


Well... Enki and Enlil are brothers.

And anyway. I did not see where OP said there was no Creator/ GOD. Just that ETs genetically engineered things that were on earth to start with.
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If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? there would be far better choices for drone miners. why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
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They weren't Godlike for goodness sakes.

This is type 3 skepticism. "If they are so great, why
not push a button.. poof?"


The Creation Epic implies the Aliens needed to repair
their atmosphere.

Well if they could beam up all the gold in the blink
of an eye because they are so advanced, why not just
give the atmosphere a good spit shine?

Basically they are bound by resources, and man power,
just like us when we try to do things.

Thats like saying.. If we want to find the God particle,
why cant we just build like 5 LHC's??

They weren't that advanced.. They were desperate,
and created us as a last resort, due to their
planet getting out of range/ closer to the sun
and what have you. We have over 4000 genetic
disorders. They were apparently a space faring
race but could not create a perfect species?

We are only a couple hundred years advanced in
electronics, but we can clone sheep, and
artificially inseminate women and what not..

When you read through the Sumerian Creation Epic...

You will find many questions answered.

Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 08/28/2012 05:19 AM
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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It makes sense bro, all step forward to spread the truth. Time is now!
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If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? there would be far better choices for drone miners. why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14083131


Well the most reasonable reason I've heard for that is they couldn't take all that equipment with them. So, they needed to enlist the help of a local population.

To the genetic engineering part. Who knows? Maybe they tried and failed miserably. It wasn't possible with the ape brain to make it see in the dark.

The third possibility is. Maybe mining gold wasn't the only thing they set out to do. They were looking for more of a "Swiss army" species that could perform multiple tasks for them.
 Quoting: reversefiction


Thanks for replying. those seem like plausible scenarios. But the one I keep coming back too is why didn't they just move here? I don't remember reading anywhere that they didn't breathe oxygen, been interested in the summerian legends for years.
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Why do we have 5 fingers on each hand? What do we use them for? The little finger? What's it's purpose?
Why do so many species have 5 "fingers" too? Why not 4 or 6?
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How is that related to the evolution or the other theories
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If they are so much superior to us and so technologically advanced why the hell could't they come up with an easier way to mine gold? why didn't they genetically engineer a being more suitable for digging, seeing, and living underground in the gold mines? there would be far better choices for drone miners. why didn't they just say fuck this we're moving to earth? too many holes in everyones theories/guesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14083131


Well the most reasonable reason I've heard for that is they couldn't take all that equipment with them. So, they needed to enlist the help of a local population.

To the genetic engineering part. Who knows? Maybe they tried and failed miserably. It wasn't possible with the ape brain to make it see in the dark.

The third possibility is. Maybe mining gold wasn't the only thing they set out to do. They were looking for more of a "Swiss army" species that could perform multiple tasks for them.
 Quoting: reversefiction


Thanks for replying. those seem like plausible scenarios. But the one I keep coming back too is why didn't they just move here? I don't remember reading anywhere that they didn't breathe oxygen, been interested in the summerian legends for years.
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Well "why didn't they just move here?" Depending on who you ask, they did. Have you ever heard of all the underground alien bases? All the UFO sightings? All the light people who make predictions about the return of the Zetas.

My thought on the matter is, were a dangerous species. Also we have a wicked ego. I think the aliens know it wouldn't be in their best interests to descend down in front of the UN or the White House, and tell the people of the earth the truth. As a species we're not mature enough for that yet.
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The only thing I can say to you young man is, memory retention is often mistaken for intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to use your knowledge/information in an abstract way. This may explain a few things about some of the people you know. I've been observing your previous post's. A word of advice, never be so rigid in your belief's that you won't change them when new correct information arrives. Pursuing and adjusting your beliefs to factual information is the only way you advance. Do not dismiss this.
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This is ponder worthy.
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Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


This thread is about disproving primate evolution.

Humans via Evolution...I can disprove. I also have
evidence on how what is truly the case.

This will be the 5th time I will answer this question.

If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.
 Quoting: Heretic_333

So let's say science is wrong. That they are missing something in their studies about earth. Why could it not be that science has it wrong but we still evolved on earth?
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


So you are saying, what if we missed a few details,
but we still in fact evolved on Earth?

Don't get me wrong, I believe in Evolution, but not
Primate Evolution. I know for a fact that in time..
"apes to humans" will be abandoned.

We didnt evolve from monkeys, because we simply just
"appeared out of nowhere" 250 thousand years ago.

The "pre-human" bones we find everywhere, are in fact
"pre-bigfoot" bones.
 Quoting: Heretic_333

Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
Revolution starts with R.
Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
Youthfulness begins with you, so do your part and be childish
And remember you can not spell awesome without ME.
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I studied several near death experience cases. In these cases people are coming across veridical information.

This is highly important. In these near death experiences, people will come across highly detailed and specific information, that was impossible to know about, but, that was later proven to be true down to the exact details after the NDE.

This proves the experience wasn't imagined, or merely a construct of the subconscious. Nor can chemical processes, explain, how they came across this veridical information.

When you piece all this information together, a reality of another dimension is revealed. This dimension, is described by only one religious book, the Bible.
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No. I practice spirituality more than any science.

All NDE's Ive read about, and had myself. Point to
the reality of Oneness, and reincarnation.

Heaven and Hell are what your subconscious mind creates
upon leaving the body. If you live a life of evil
service to self over others. You will only experience
your fears amidst waddling through the void.

However, You live a life of profound unconditional love,
you give more than take, and you are generally a loving
entity, The joys and adventures your soul will partake in
is just absolute beauty. Until you choose to incarnate
again.

I meditate, astral project, do Maharac sheild envisions...
It all points to the true God. Which is "Source" or
the "spirit" or "soul" of the Universe.

Every conscious thing in the universe, sees through
every conscious thing in the universe, Upon being loving,
and sensing God's omnipresence. You are unconditionally
tapping into the love shared by the entire universe.

The answer to the Great Question. "Why are we here?"

To love and create.

love
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Yes, many NDE, do point to a oneness, but if this is all you study you will mistakenly assume this.

Your assumption is false for a reason. There's three NDE, that was experienced by children. All three children went to heaven. In addition all three came across veridical information. This is strong evidence, that their experience wasn't merely imagined.

Now, these three kids were then revealed more info about the afterlife. What they found, that both heaven and hell exists.
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Hold on man, How would loving children describe something
so complex I have a hard time explaining it.

Of course they would use the only conceivable frame
of reference they know which is this "Heaven" they
heard about.

I dont study all NDE's that relate to one thing.

ALL NDE's relate to karmic oneness.

What is the reason I am false?

And yes they said heaven and hell exists. I also
say that. But its not the biblical illustrations
people have been drawing for thousands of years.

The more evil you are, the more unattached you are
to Oneness, the more unpleasant that state can be.

The more you love, care and protect, the more divine,
righteous, and amazing your experience will be.
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

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I generally respond to any comment, but please guys,
can we limit the Religion and spirituality?

This thread is about disproving Primate Evolution.
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If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

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Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


Or we might be a very small particles from a giant organism.
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Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


Or we might be a very small particles from a giant organism.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Technically yes.

But If you mean like "what if all
the planets and stars in the universe are the
particles and atoms of a creature" then that
was so 20 years ago. In like second grade.
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


Or we might be a very small particles from a giant organism.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Oh imagine that. We are just micro organisms inside a being.
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
Revolution starts with R.
Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
Youthfulness begins with you, so do your part and be childish
And remember you can not spell awesome without ME.
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Why do we have 5 fingers on each hand? What do we use them for? The little finger? What's it's purpose?
Why do so many species have 5 "fingers" too? Why not 4 or 6?
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How is that related to the evolution or the other theories
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Wow... Good question man... I'd venture a guess that the aliens did collect DNA from earth, and from early Australopitheceans. So, our genetic material is still "Old World Apes." Thus, us retaining the 5th digit. What was it used for and why 5 digits on each appendage? That deals with the genetics for how mammals evolved. I don't know.
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Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


Or we might be a very small particles from a giant organism.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Technically yes.

But If you mean like "what if all
the planets and stars in the universe are the
particles and atoms of a creature" then that
was so 20 years ago. In like second grade.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Asteroid Not as torid
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
Revolution starts with R.
Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
Youthfulness begins with you, so do your part and be childish
And remember you can not spell awesome without ME.
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Yep that's what I was asking
Who knows - we might be bacteria from some as torpid that crashed into earth 250 thousand years ago
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


Or we might be a very small particles from a giant organism.
 Quoting: ·-º»¬


Technically yes.

But If you mean like "what if all
the planets and stars in the universe are the
particles and atoms of a creature" then that
was so 20 years ago. In like second grade.
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Asteroid Not as torid
 Quoting: Rudysarsof


what?
A true minded, kind hearted... Iconoclast.

"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."

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