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humanitech User ID: 22718887 United Kingdom 08/27/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Just so you know...it was through individual experimentation and discovery, and a lot of trial and error friend...not just intellect but mainly perseverance to needs. As everything man has ever invented was never truly perfect or complete at the initial stage.... but doggedly some (but definitely not all) kept working on things until they worked out..and therefore over many many thousands of years we got from very simple technology (rock bashing..through watching bird and other creatures get to shell creature)to here. In other words very similar to natural (trial and error) evolution (because evolution has nothing to do with perfection, just the ability when need to adapt and change). I should know as I was once a design engineer...and the whole point is just finding solution to perceived problems. Also friend I have a question for you...if man's imagination was god created and given... why didn't we have all the tech we have now....back then thousands of years again. As lets be honest thanks to a few people... we only discovered electricity in the last century...through much messing around and experimentation. Also friend you have to also consider that only a small percentage of humanity (even now) actually create and invent new things ..which the masses collectively buy, use and often take for granted, but ironically include themselves to collectively take credit for. Although many learn and practise many handed down or learnt skills like building, carpentry and engineering etc). however most people today still can't invent, build, design, or create..and many haven't a clue know how much of technology works....but they do make great and demanding consumers LOL. Also I have a another question...can you tell me why a supposedly all perfect. knowing and good god, decide to create a completely bipolar, conflicting and unstable (and therefore imperfect)universe? Also why would any lateral and open minded human being want to believe that all they are is just an artificially created organic robot servant.. only created to blindly bow down and serve the will and whims of a seemingly crazy bipolar puppet master? because that my friend is exactly what the tenants of most hierarchical religious doctrines imply. So please count me out of all that elitist BS...as it tough enough dealing with corrupt and greedy tyrants here... let alone these even more ridiculous invisible polarised god and devil delusions...which in reality are ironically one and the same thing...called electricity (which is bipolar and explains why the chaotic universe will never change)..or haven't you realised yet? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States 08/27/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Get ready for Sci-Fi Creative Writing 101. It's what the atheists/naturalists are best at. They are allergic to reason and logic. |
PENG User ID: 1159762 United States 08/27/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Holy shit. My kids and I were just discussing this topic. There's a documentary called Creatures of God (I think), and they talk about this exact thing. Eggs have never evolved, etc.. It is fantastic! Btw when it comes down to it, scientist say we are a freak of nature. We weren't supposed to exist. We are a freak accident. Last Edited by PENG on 08/27/2012 06:59 PM "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22683010 United Kingdom 08/27/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? We've had our DNA upgraded by aliens at regular intervals over the last 100k years. |
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humanitech User ID: 22718887 United Kingdom 08/27/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Get ready for Sci-Fi Creative Writing 101. It's what the atheists/naturalists are best at. They are allergic to reason and logic. Yeah....but it is still more logical and rational than listening the the rants of blind and delusional people..who choose to believe and bow down to a fake man made artificially polarised hierarchical god delusion friend. Can I ask you..as you imply that you are a believer...Do you really think that you (and the rest of humanity) are just artificially created robots, build to blindly bow down and serve the will and whims of an invisible god (thingy), so you like the concept of being controlled artificial intelligence. ..and secondly ( also mentioned in my early post) if god was solely responsible for making this conflicting and unstable bipolar universe...what does that make Him/her/whatever...bipolar and crazy too perhaps? you see friend... before you quickly judge other for their lack of logic and reason..please try and make sure you have some too eh. Although I appreciate it's easy to keep your eyes closed and you head stuck in the sand..or in your case ....a man made book for fools. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1526355 United States 08/27/2012 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Just so you know...it was through individual experimentation and discovery, and a lot of trial and error friend...not just intellect but mainly perseverance to needs. As everything man has ever invented was never truly perfect or complete at the initial stage.... but doggedly some (but definitely not all) kept working on things until they worked out..and therefore over many many thousands of years we got from very simple technology (rock bashing..through watching bird and other creatures get to shell creature)to here. In other words very similar to natural (trial and error) evolution (because evolution has nothing to do with perfection, just the ability when need to adapt and change). I should know as I was once a design engineer...and the whole point is just finding solution to perceived problems. Also friend I have a question for you...if man's imagination was god created and given... why didn't we have all the tech we have now....back then thousands of years again. As lets be honest thanks to a few people... we only discovered electricity in the last century...through much messing around and experimentation. Also friend you have to also consider that only a small percentage of humanity (even now) actually create and invent new things ..which the masses collectively buy, use and often take for granted, but ironically include themselves to collectively take credit for. Although many learn and practise many handed down or learnt skills like building, carpentry and engineering etc). however most people today still can't invent, build, design, or create..and many haven't a clue know how much of technology works....but they do make great and demanding consumers LOL. Also I have a another question...can you tell me why a supposedly all perfect. knowing and good god, decide to create a completely bipolar, conflicting and unstable (and therefore imperfect)universe? Also why would any lateral and open minded human being want to believe that all they are is just an artificially created organic robot servant.. only created to blindly bow down and serve the will and whims of a seemingly crazy bipolar puppet master? because that my friend is exactly what the tenants of most hierarchical religious doctrines imply. So please count me out of all that elitist BS...as it tough enough dealing with corrupt and greedy tyrants here... let alone these even more ridiculous invisible polarised god and devil delusions...which in reality are ironically one and the same thing...called electricity (which is bipolar and explains why the chaotic universe will never change)..or haven't you realised yet? "...if man's imagination was god created and given... why didn't we have all the tech we have now....back then thousands of years again" It is because I believe that mankind and the earth have different needs depending on their time period. Also I have a another question...can you tell me why a supposedly all perfect. knowing and good god, decide to create a completely bipolar, conflicting and unstable (and therefore imperfect)universe? Who says the universe is not perfect? We do not have all the knowledge to know why certain things are the way they are... But if you look at the universe design, it is flawless. I'm talking all the way from the Earth rotating the sun all the way to the oxygen we breathe... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22213330 United States 08/27/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Just so you know...it was through individual experimentation and discovery, and a lot of trial and error friend...not just intellect but mainly perseverance to needs. As everything man has ever invented was never truly perfect or complete at the initial stage.... but doggedly some (but definitely not all) kept working on things until they worked out..and therefore over many many thousands of years we got from very simple technology (rock bashing..through watching bird and other creatures get to shell creature)to here. In other words very similar to natural (trial and error) evolution (because evolution has nothing to do with perfection, just the ability when need to adapt and change). I should know as I was once a design engineer...and the whole point is just finding solution to perceived problems. Also friend I have a question for you...if man's imagination was god created and given... why didn't we have all the tech we have now....back then thousands of years again. As lets be honest thanks to a few people... we only discovered electricity in the last century...through much messing around and experimentation. Also friend you have to also consider that only a small percentage of humanity (even now) actually create and invent new things ..which the masses collectively buy, use and often take for granted, but ironically include themselves to collectively take credit for. Although many learn and practise many handed down or learnt skills like building, carpentry and engineering etc). however most people today still can't invent, build, design, or create..and many haven't a clue know how much of technology works....but they do make great and demanding consumers LOL. Also I have a another question...can you tell me why a supposedly all perfect. knowing and good god, decide to create a completely bipolar, conflicting and unstable (and therefore imperfect)universe? Also why would any lateral and open minded human being want to believe that all they are is just an artificially created organic robot servant.. only created to blindly bow down and serve the will and whims of a seemingly crazy bipolar puppet master? because that my friend is exactly what the tenants of most hierarchical religious doctrines imply. So please count me out of all that elitist BS...as it tough enough dealing with corrupt and greedy tyrants here... let alone these even more ridiculous invisible polarised god and devil delusions...which in reality are ironically one and the same thing...called electricity (which is bipolar and explains why the chaotic universe will never change)..or haven't you realised yet? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1526355 United States 08/27/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Holy shit. My kids and I were just discussing this topic. There's a documentary called Creatures of God (I think), and they talk about this exact thing. Eggs have never evolved, etc.. It is fantastic! Btw when it comes down to it, scientist say we are a freak of nature. We weren't supposed to exist. We are a freak accident. That is sciences way of saying that we can't prove a God exists.. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22714825 United States 08/27/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, shit, you're right, OP. That settles it. There is a God and He wants you to go to a Christian church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22714825 I never said go to a Christian church.... Nope, but it's primarily Christians, who are known dumbshits, who pose intractable, pointless questions such as yours. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1526355 United States 08/27/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, shit, you're right, OP. That settles it. There is a God and He wants you to go to a Christian church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22714825 I never said go to a Christian church.... Nope, but it's primarily Christians, who are known dumbshits, who pose intractable, pointless questions such as yours. Why the pent up anger? Just because a few bad seeds ruin a few things doesn't mean everybody is like that.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22714825 United States 08/27/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, shit, you're right, OP. That settles it. There is a God and He wants you to go to a Christian church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22714825 I never said go to a Christian church.... Nope, but it's primarily Christians, who are known dumbshits, who pose intractable, pointless questions such as yours. Why the pent up anger? Just because a few bad seeds ruin a few things doesn't mean everybody is like that.. I'm cool as a cucumber. I've never met an intelligent Christian, that's all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States 08/27/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? Get ready for Sci-Fi Creative Writing 101. It's what the atheists/naturalists are best at. They are allergic to reason and logic. Yeah....but it is still more logical and rational than listening the the rants of blind and delusional people..who choose to believe and bow down to a fake man made artificially polarised hierarchical god delusion friend. Can I ask you..as you imply that you are a believer...Do you really think that you (and the rest of humanity) are just artificially created robots, build to blindly bow down and serve the will and whims of an invisible god (thingy), so you like the concept of being controlled artificial intelligence. ..and secondly ( also mentioned in my early post) if god was solely responsible for making this conflicting and unstable bipolar universe...what does that make Him/her/whatever...bipolar and crazy too perhaps? you see friend... before you quickly judge other for their lack of logic and reason..please try and make sure you have some too eh. Although I appreciate it's easy to keep your eyes closed and you head stuck in the sand..or in your case ....a man made book for fools. I used to be a fool. I used to say foolish things like "God is just a crutch for weak-minded people!" I used to worship myself as the master of my own reality. Then I woke up to the reality of the Creator. I came to realize all my own rationalizations about reality were little more than white noise and static, and feeble attempts to convince myself of anything that let me be the master and sinner. Look around you, friend. You know this reality is no accident. Your consciousness reveals the Right and Wrong, the Longing for an Answer, Salvation, Righteousness, the Awareness of someone watching over you, the One people call out to when faced with peril. Even Science reveals the Creator to us. We know now, more than ever, that the chances of Life forming by accident are so slim they may as well be impossible. That the conditions set up to support Life on Earth are too incredibly fine-tuned to be anything but a design. In creation and conscience, God has revealed himself. All that's left is for you to get out of your own way and surrender to Christ. He is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6679623 United States 08/27/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen an animal with a builders merchant card, but the day I do I'll let you know. Quoting: vexed 22702937 This is something a person with no answer would say... Not having an answer is better than spewing bullshit and trying to pass it off as an answer. Still waiting for you to reply to my first response, op. |
vexed User ID: 22702937 United Kingdom 08/27/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen an animal with a builders merchant card, but the day I do I'll let you know. Quoting: vexed 22702937 This is something a person with no answer would say... Not having an answer is better than spewing bullshit and trying to pass it off as an answer. Still waiting for you to reply to my first response, op. I gave a perfectly logical answer. I need not expand on it anymore. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22709635 United States 08/27/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is no GOD or creator or higher power, where did intellect come from? Quoting: ***ClappaGuy*** Why is it that animals have been building the same houses for themselves for 1000's of years such as birds and their nests, but humans have progressed from clay and straw huts all the way to todays world we we have securitized houses built with brick, cement, wood, along with electricity and plumbing.... Explain that? |