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BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”

 
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"Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It’s like, it’s very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You’re not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place.

If you try to ignore that, your worldview just becomes crazy, just untenable, itself inconsistent.

I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution, and live in your—in your world, that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in our universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it, because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future."

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--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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I disagree with him on this point: "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution, and live in your—in your world, that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in our universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it, because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future."

No, we don't need your dumbshit, inbred children. Our AI, robotics and quantum simulators will do just fine, thanks.
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I disagree with him on this point: "I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution, and live in your—in your world, that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in our universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it, because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future."

No, we don't need your dumbshit, inbred children. Our AI, robotics and quantum simulators will do just fine, thanks.
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huffy
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
I would ask Bill Nye....if you take a large,sterile cube of glass with only a few gasses in it and let it set awhile...how long will it take to develop into another world?
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Most of the world is "religious", so no most do not believe in evolution. Not even going to get into rest of his ignorant comments.
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wow...he's right.

you guys do need to go do some reading...
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Its funny, I have never really seen the conflict between believing in God and also believing in evolution. I mean, God created the universe, which means he created the laws under which it operates, so it would stand to reason he would use those laws to operate under. Who is to say what "7 days" means to an infinite being?
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
evolution is how the big live evolves
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wow...he's right.

you guys do need to go do some reading...
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Your opinion partner, my reading has shown me that evolution is an impossibility.
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I would ask Bill Nye....if you take a large,sterile cube of glass with only a few gasses in it and let it set awhile...how long will it take to develop into another world?
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Probably a really long fucking time, if ever. But if you had a hundred trillion trillion of them with lightning and volcanoes and radiation and shit all going at it and fucking shit up, I think at least one of them would probably at least produce a little bean plant or a slug or something.
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I would ask Bill Nye....if you take a large,sterile cube of glass with only a few gasses in it and let it set awhile...how long will it take to develop into another world?
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Probably a really long fucking time, if ever. But if you had a hundred trillion trillion of them with lightning and volcanoes and radiation and shit all going at it and fucking shit up, I think at least one of them would probably at least produce a little bean plant or a slug or something.
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Takes a lot more faith to believe in that than to believe in a creator.
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
Whenever someone demands that I believe something, without my be allowed to ask questions or point out errors, then I know that they are just making stuff up.

If they truly believed in their theory, they would be open to questions from non believers. But they don't, which makes them a religion not science.

Go pray to the god of evolution and leave the rest of us alone.

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I would ask Bill Nye....if you take a large,sterile cube of glass with only a few gasses in it and let it set awhile...how long will it take to develop into another world?
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Probably a really long fucking time, if ever. But if you had a hundred trillion trillion of them with lightning and volcanoes and radiation and shit all going at it and fucking shit up, I think at least one of them would probably at least produce a little bean plant or a slug or something.
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Takes a lot more faith to believe in that than to believe in a creator.
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Believing in some kind of god is typically an easy intellectual copout for dumbshits.
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
Evolution is rubbish.


Macro evolution that is, the evolutionist lie is more convincing because they include micro evolution under the umbrella term 'evolution'

Macro evolution : The addition of new DNA/RNA. NEVER been observed.

Micro evolution : The changing of a species using information already present in DNA, this has been observed.




Try and debunk it evolutionists. You know it's true, but you hate the truth because there is no truth in you.

A shame.
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So what you are saying is the United States is smarter than every one else?
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
Whenever someone demands that I believe something, without my be allowed to ask questions or point out errors, then I know that they are just making stuff up.

If they truly believed in their theory, they would be open to questions from non believers. But they don't, which makes them a religion not science.

Go pray to the god of evolution and leave the rest of us alone.

bsflag
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we ARE open to questions from "non-believers" (i prefer to call them "the incorrect") but the problem is, you people have been asking the same questions since you started asking, yet still refuse to believe the answers you've been given, as they don't agree with your preconceived dogma, so you start yelling, declare us wrong because our answer isn't yours and then promptly assume you've "won" the argument -- which, as you can imagine, is fucking frustrating.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
Evolution is rubbish.


Macro evolution that is, the evolutionist lie is more convincing because they include micro evolution under the umbrella term 'evolution'

Macro evolution : The addition of new DNA/RNA. NEVER been observed.

Micro evolution : The changing of a species using information already present in DNA, this has been observed.




Try and debunk it evolutionists. You know it's true, but you hate the truth because there is no truth in you.

A shame.
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putin

i'm glad you think you just "won" this "argument".

it kind of proves the point of the article....
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Evolution is rubbish.


Macro evolution that is, the evolutionist lie is more convincing because they include micro evolution under the umbrella term 'evolution'

Macro evolution : The addition of new DNA/RNA. NEVER been observed.

Micro evolution : The changing of a species using information already present in DNA, this has been observed.




Try and debunk it evolutionists. You know it's true, but you hate the truth because there is no truth in you.

A shame.
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putin

i'm glad you think you just "won" this "argument".

it kind of proves the point of the article....
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Standard evolutionist respone.
Belittle your opponent without proving yourself, of course you cannot prove yourself because there has never been a case of additional DNA being added.
It has became muddled up (what we call a mutation) but this again has NEVER proven beneficial, always it has been a detriment.
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Evolution is rubbish.


Macro evolution that is, the evolutionist lie is more convincing because they include micro evolution under the umbrella term 'evolution'

Macro evolution : The addition of new DNA/RNA. NEVER been observed.

Micro evolution : The changing of a species using information already present in DNA, this has been observed.




Try and debunk it evolutionists. You know it's true, but you hate the truth because there is no truth in you.

A shame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5810796


putin

i'm glad you think you just "won" this "argument".

it kind of proves the point of the article....
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Standard evolutionist respone.
Belittle your opponent without proving yourself, of course you cannot prove yourself because there has never been a case of additional DNA being added.
It has became muddled up (what we call a mutation) but this again has NEVER proven beneficial, always it has been a detriment.
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keep listening to your pastor. i'm sure his scientific expertise is beyond the ken of normal man. i'm glad he has taught you so well.

the rest of us can languish in the ignorance that is science while you christians take the world boldly forward into another dark age. thumbs up.
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Whenever someone demands that I believe something, without my be allowed to ask questions or point out errors, then I know that they are just making stuff up.

If they truly believed in their theory, they would be open to questions from non believers. But they don't, which makes them a religion not science.

Go pray to the god of evolution and leave the rest of us alone.

bsflag
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we ARE open to questions from "non-believers" (i prefer to call them "the incorrect") but the problem is, you people have been asking the same questions since you started asking, yet still refuse to believe the answers you've been given, as they don't agree with your preconceived dogma, so you start yelling, declare us wrong because our answer isn't yours and then promptly assume you've "won" the argument -- which, as you can imagine, is fucking frustrating.
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Making stuff up and calling it a "answer" isn't a answer btw.
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Look man I'm not trying to sound big headed or anything but the frustration you talked about earlier?

Yeah, I feel it too.

But over the fact that so many evolutionists never practice what they preach, they tell others who don't believe in what they believe they are ignorant and stupid but themselves never actually read into their own beliefs.

In some ways the evolutionists and so called religious people are the same, you both spout nonsense without reading into your own thought system.

A shame.


As a note, my field of expertise is not biology, it is in fact computing - what I find amazing is the fact that human beings are the most complex computers to exist...a single cell from us is more complex than New york city...it is simply astounding.

If you showed me a computer from 1950's - a big ol' mainframe I would tell you that however simple it was compared to todays machines it did not build itself over time.

If I went to the top of a mountain and saw four stones arranged neatly together I would automatically think 'someone has been here!'

It is only logical, order does not come from chaos except when intelligence is present.

That is the only observable truth we can see in the world today.


Peace, sorry if I sounded a bit harsh...sometimes I get frustrated too.
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And for the record, I do not go to church and a pastor has not taught me anything with regards to the belief of evolution.


This is all my own research.
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"Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology. It’s like, it’s very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates. You’re not going to get the right answer. Your whole world is just going to be a mystery instead of an exciting place.

If you try to ignore that, your worldview just becomes crazy, just untenable, itself inconsistent.

I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution, and live in your—in your world, that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in our universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it, because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future."

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You believe this because from the time you and everyone in this World is born they are taught one way or the other,you only know what tptb want you to know,we only know this World we cant imagine anything else because we were programmed from birth to understand certain things.you work you apy bills you get married have kids etc... this is the design,does it make it truth? does it make it the only solution? evolution,or God creating us what ever the case may be is that it? maybe theres things that our above these simple thoughts,but you will never know because most humans lay into this World as being real,when in reaity its an Illusion,An Illusion as far as you only know what tptb want you to know,I dont believe anything this World shows me,to me its all low level things they want us to see not the Truth.
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Evolution happens a lot slower than our average scientist thinks. Many of the building blocks for the evolution of flora and fauna, like amino acids, were brought here on comets. Hence, many building blocks evolved on other planets. The human being is also not solely from this planet, but early humanoid forms did evolve here on Earth.
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Re: BILL NYE: “DENIAL OF EVOLUTION IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES”
...that depends on what Theory of Evolution you refer to...quite a bit of Darwin's original work has pretty much been shown wrong or misguided at best...with DNA code etc., so much has shown everything on earth, plant or animal is a few to a handful of cells different.. so you end with a NOT God Theory and a God Theory...the world knows the US landed on the moon, but lots of people deny it here...so denial is popular...like most science, one answer causes 8 more questions ...usually all related to why...evolution is a how theory, never gets around to why...for example, why would a sightless cell being,with no eyes, no knowledge of sight,no "need" of sight, no brain stem..well no brain at all as we know it..develop eyes ?...and Mr Nye is mistaken,people from every nation deny evolution as a answer to the question of how we got here...just as we have 9-11 deniers who are quite vocal, and Holocaust deniers...for example,Muslims believe God created ALL living beings out of water..theres a billion of them and most not American...goofy question,not much thought...why do people question evolution would be more interesting and of course your definition of evolution so we could all know we are all talking about the same thing...
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I would ask Bill Nye....if you take a large,sterile cube of glass with only a few gasses in it and let it set awhile...how long will it take to develop into another world?
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Probably a really long fucking time, if ever. But if you had a hundred trillion trillion of them with lightning and volcanoes and radiation and shit all going at it and fucking shit up, I think at least one of them would probably at least produce a little bean plant or a slug or something.
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Takes a lot more faith to believe in that than to believe in a creator.
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Believing in some kind of god is typically an easy intellectual copout for dumbshits.
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You're right! You are just one big fucking accident.

Please don't breed. Humanity can't take more dumbing down.
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Protocols at work here. Get the population arguing over inanities while real work occurs with out scrutiny.
What if an "intelligent designer" was smart enough to include the ability to evolve to conditions faced by the created. Though these nuts think we evolved from monkeys, evolution could explain the similarities but not our relations to the simians.
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But..seriously. I believe in evolution. However, not one human alive today knows all the answers to where the hell we all came from. So lets agree to disagree, because truthfully, we will never know exactly what happened. lol
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Whenever a "Militant" Atheist gets in my face and ridicules my faith....I pretend that I don't believe in evolution.


My religion doesn't have a problem with the theory since it lists the creation of the various types of animals in the same order as the book of Genesis

Sea life
reptiles
birds
Mammals
Humans

In fact we often debated why dinosaurs werent mentioned...then it turns out that birds are from dinosaurs.

So evolution fits biblically the same way the "big bang theory" does

( this is just how we see it...if you feel an overpowering urge to pick it apart,......get a life )



So after I get the atheist all riled up by denying evolution ,I then begin complaining about all the problems my denial has caused me.

It prevented me from getting my drivers license because I kept making a wrong turn in the jurassic era.

I struggle to balance a checkbook because I keep subtracting genetic mutations instead of adding them.

I just keep pointing out how painfully important the theory of evolution is in the daily lives of ordinary people.


Then I let him in on the joke by telling him:

1. What my faith really thinks about evolution.

2. Unless you're doing research or you're a profoundly self righteous atheist, the theory of evolution has NO PRACTICAL APPLICATION.

It is an excellent example of "Useless Trivia".

3. I'm a great deal more concerned about a 10 year old childs reading comprehension and math skills than his views on advanced scientific theories.
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wow...he's right.

you guys do need to go do some reading...
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Your opinion partner, my reading has shown me that evolution is an impossibility.
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