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Hey Mr Darwin, how to you imagine your 'evolution' thingy accidently painted stripes on zebras?

 
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But if it took Zebras millions of generations of to develop these beautiful stripes in order to "adapt to its environment" as you claim, wouldn't that mean that for many generations we would have Zebras which were not fully adapted to their environment, since their stripes were not fully developed yet?

So isn't it a legitimate question to ask, how these intermediate stages of stripe development could survive a hostile environment, since not fully developed stripes would look rather strange and put these - for a better word - half striped Zebras at a huge disadvantage?

Could you please explain your reasoning why the hundreds of thousands of Zebra generations being busy to fully develop their stripes could survive?
And if they could survive, why the need to develop the stripes in the first place?
I mean aren't fully developed stripes a means of camouflage in order to survive better, so if no stripes or stripes not fully developed yet are protecting the animal as good as full stripes, where would the need to develop stripes in the first place stem from then?

I hope you or someone else can give me an explanation for my little problem I have with millions of generations of Zebras being necessary to perfect their camouflage.
 Quoting: Tekunda 22749873


Bingo.

Well said. This is one question the evolutionists can't seem to answer. Btw, i'm not a religious person.
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How could a cell that doesn't know it exists possibly envision black and white stripes? How would it 'know' at which cell black ends and white starts? How would it keep the lines straight?
Besides, the stripes are really for man's enjoyment of creation, camouflage would be earth/grass tones.

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You've ignored my answer that the Zebra's stripes evolved to confuse a particular pest, camouflage yes but of a different design and purpose than you are imagining it. If the world was created for a bunch of Middle Easterners, how come so few of these creatures made purely so man can enjoy nature were put in the ME?

Tongue in cheek question as your original statement that everything was put here for your pleasure shows your hedonism and narcissism, both prevalent in religion, but also states that you consider some rather vile pests, poisonous creatures and diseases something for us to admire and take pleasure in.

You're one messed up dude.
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Oh get real. Now explain how cells think about their survival in the wild, and design camouflage. Black, white, black, white.... explain how they know when and how to change the pigment chemistry. I mean... really.
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Why does god create new strains of flu viruses?
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Why does god create new strains of flu viruses?
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Why does man deny reaping the consequences of exploiting Jehovah's earth, which he entrusted to us to take of, playing God with chemistry? Blame and denial?

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Bingo.

Well said. This is one question the evolutionists can't seem to answer. Btw, i'm not a religious person.
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How could a cell that doesn't know it exists possibly envision black and white stripes? How would it 'know' at which cell black ends and white starts? How would it keep the lines straight?
Besides, the stripes are really for man's enjoyment of creation, camouflage would be earth/grass tones.

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You've ignored my answer that the Zebra's stripes evolved to confuse a particular pest, camouflage yes but of a different design and purpose than you are imagining it. If the world was created for a bunch of Middle Easterners, how come so few of these creatures made purely so man can enjoy nature were put in the ME?

Tongue in cheek question as your original statement that everything was put here for your pleasure shows your hedonism and narcissism, both prevalent in religion, but also states that you consider some rather vile pests, poisonous creatures and diseases something for us to admire and take pleasure in.

You're one messed up dude.
 Quoting: 7even

Oh get real. Now explain how cells think about their survival in the wild, and design camouflage. Black, white, black, white.... explain how they know when and how to change the pigment chemistry. I mean... really.
 Quoting: DGN

The question isn't why do zebras have stripes, it's how did the imaginary 'mind' of evolutionary theory tell the cells when to start and stop black and white?
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Re: Hey Mr Darwin, how to you imagine your 'evolution' thingy accidently painted stripes on zebras?
OP your failure to grasp simple concepts like natural selection and evolutionary processes is very disturbing.

People have explained how it works to you several times, you just don't want to listen. You won't hear.

Also how do you know that evolution isn't part of some creators plan? Is your faith so weak that a thing like evolution is totally shattering your world-view? How do you know it is not part of this creators plan?

Evidence of evolution is everywhere. Why do you think they have to come up with a new flu shot every year?

Just because evolution is real doesn't disprove the existence of God. So what is the problem?
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How could a cell that doesn't know it exists possibly envision black and white stripes? How would it 'know' at which cell black ends and white starts? How would it keep the lines straight?
Besides, the stripes are really for man's enjoyment of creation, camouflage would be earth/grass tones.

 Quoting: DGN


Oh get real. Now explain how cells think about their survival in the wild, and design camouflage. Black, white, black, white.... explain how they know when and how to change the pigment chemistry. I mean... really.

The question isn't why do zebras have stripes, it's how did the imaginary 'mind' of evolutionary theory tell the cells when to start and stop black and white?


Dude.. the cells don't think. Randomly one Zebra was born striped through a genetic mutation. The ones with stripes thrived, the ones without died out. Through millions of years these stripes have become more defined as the organism evolves and natural selection does it's part to remove the camouflaged animals that are easy prey.


Random mutations happen all the time and are usually not beneficial E.G. Cancer

Very rarely is a mutation beneficial, and when it is that animal thrives and thus natural selection continues.


What are you not understanding here?
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How could a cell that doesn't know it exists possibly envision black and white stripes? How would it 'know' at which cell black ends and white starts? How would it keep the lines straight?
Besides, the stripes are really for man's enjoyment of creation, camouflage would be earth/grass tones.

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Oh get real. Now explain how cells think about their survival in the wild, and design camouflage. Black, white, black, white.... explain how they know when and how to change the pigment chemistry. I mean... really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16433550

The question isn't why do zebras have stripes, it's how did the imaginary 'mind' of evolutionary theory tell the cells when to start and stop black and white?


Dude.. the cells don't think. Randomly one Zebra was born striped through a genetic mutation. The ones with stripes thrived, the ones without died out. Through millions of years these stripes have become more defined as the organism evolves and natural selection does it's part to remove the camouflaged animals that are easy prey.


Random mutations happen all the time and are usually not beneficial E.G. Cancer

Very rarely is a mutation beneficial, and when it is that animal thrives and thus natural selection continues.


What are you not understanding here?

QUOTE; " Randomly one Zebra was born striped through a genetic mutation"
This explains stripes? Please do fill in a million skipped over blanks here.





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