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Artic Ice Melt Record Broken
[link to www.csmonitor.com]

Artic Ice Melt reaches record low. With everything going on it seems the largest ice melt on record has been taken place.

Bad news for global temperatures as these ice caps are our biggest controlling factor for worldwide temp. increase

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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The 2 min. news is always good!




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The 2 min. news is always good!
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coastline waterways and rivers will rise .
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only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
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Also not all measurements are showing a record low some are still well above the record.

MASIE is showing alot more ice

looks like there might be some adjustment going on, like with surface temps.
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only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
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Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
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When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
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only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


I'm talking world wide temps
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Artic Ice Melt reaches record low. With everything going on it seems the largest ice melt on record has been taken place.

Bad news for global temperatures as these ice caps are our biggest controlling factor for worldwide temp. increase

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Is that the record for the last 5 billion years, or just the last 500?
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[link to www.csmonitor.com]

Artic Ice Melt reaches record low. With everything going on it seems the largest ice melt on record has been taken place.

Bad news for global temperatures as these ice caps are our biggest controlling factor for worldwide temp. increase

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
 Quoting: shadasonic


Is that the record for the last 5 billion years, or just the last 500?
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I think its actually since 1979, for the complete record breakdown.I'm not saying this is the worst ever, just seemed very interesting to me as so much speculation has been going on with the poles.

[link to www.ncdc.noaa.gov]
Heres a list of some global numbers up till july.Some of these have risen since the increase of european temps. of late
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[link to www.earthgauge.net]

I found this article to be very interesting!Shows the climate differences between the two poles.
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That is because it is summer. The ice will be back in winter.
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For setting the record straight about HAARP and earthquakes...


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The meltwater in the ocean is diluting the salt..affects thermohaline circulation, evaporation and weather.

The shifting of mass to the equator may be contributing to fluctuations in axial tilt.

There are many factors in play.
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The 2 min. news is always good!



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thanks-good stuff!

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Re: Artic Ice Melt Record Broken
only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Could you tell us why then the Ross shelf has been forming massive holes and is said to be on the verge of breaking loose?

Something that hasn't been seen in recorded history, correct?
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That is because it is summer. The ice will be back in winter.
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are you sure about that, its NOT Coming back as much in winter either, they are shipping thru north canada in winter now .
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Re: Artic Ice Melt Record Broken
only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


We are talking OCEAN temps here buddy. Temp of the WATER.
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For setting the record straight about HAARP and earthquakes...


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people that cannot read and will not /cannot reason carry the bling on the net. I post all the time that Haarp doesn't cause quakes, nor are the various instruments there report haarp being used to cause quakes, but rather mostly ionosphere effects from solar impingement, but it goes unheard. Good to see that guy making a statement. 4d is the time of the blind leading the blind, always the case when internets get running on worlds like this.
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Wow, the lowest in 30 years. That's a great graph when measured against the 4,500,000,000 years that the Earth has been around.

There has been a high pressure system stuck in the Artic this summer. When that is gone, there is going to be record freezing.
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That means sea level raise
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Wrong. Record is from 2007. And this record is irrelevant. Measurements started in 1979 only. This is nothing.

Also, even if it was true, big deal, Artic melted several times before. At least twice in the 20th century.
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Re: Artic Ice Melt Record Broken
only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


I'm talking world wide temps
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Lol. It's not even close.
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only been measured since 1979
plenty of evidence to show that there has been much less in the past making this not unusual

don't forget sea ice is growing in the southern hemisphere

if that big storm did't break up the ice we likely would not be talking records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Could you tell us why then the Ross shelf has been forming massive holes and is said to be on the verge of breaking loose?

Something that hasn't been seen in recorded history, correct?
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Very tiny when you compare to the whole Antarctica...
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I, like millions of others, live near lakes that were carved out by ice. This is not unusual either.

If you do more research into this matter you will find that most of the models that show ice receding were photos in the spring.
They conveniently do not show the ice growth in winter.
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Wow, the lowest in 30 years. That's a great graph when measured against the 4,500,000,000 years that the Earth has been around.

There has been a high pressure system stuck in the Artic this summer. When that is gone, there is going to be record freezing.
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Thanks for your input Soothsayer Susana.

Can you tell me who will win this years Super Bowl while your at it?

P.S. - We all know the Earth has only been around for about 6000 years. Duh.
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Perhaps the real problem is that the rain forests around the world have been and are being cut or burned down.

Might be helpful if all of the billionaires who regularly seem to run their mouths at all of us could get together a trillion dollars and start buying the rain forests back from whomever controls them now.

Then they could replant them or simply just let nature take its course and grow wild. Probably come back in about ten years of no plowing or burning down.

The George Soros's and the BIll Gates of the world certainly have enough connections and money to do it.
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it all seems to be tying together.
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Thanks for the input.
It seemed very interesting considering the magnitude of summer storms both poles have been experiencing. I guess if its the warmest year on record things are going to melt!
 Quoting: shadasonic


When you look at the adjustments made to temps this is far from warmest anything.

High Arctic temperatures have been below average for 12 years in a row.

[link to ocean.dmi.dk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22509122


Could you tell us why then the Ross shelf has been forming massive holes and is said to be on the verge of breaking loose?

Something that hasn't been seen in recorded history, correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22650426


Very tiny when you compare to the whole Antarctica...
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Tell that to every person on the planet that resides at 10ft. above sea level or less when they have ocean water in their living rooms.shark
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